DJ Uses A MacBook Pro To Play Tunes At Microsoft Store Opening

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Microsoft recently unveiled its first retail store on the East coast at the Tysons Corner mall in McLean, Virginia. Like other Microsoft stores, the new location is strategically placed near the local Apple Store.

In an attempt to appeal to the hip and cool computer geeks out there, Microsoft hired a DJ to play music during the store’s opening. Can you guess what kind of laptop the DJ used?

Not only was the DJ clearly using a MacBook Pro, but Microsoft made him cover the Apple logo with a “Microsoft Store” sticker. If you can’t beat ’em, cover ’em up with your own branding.

According to Electronista, Microsoft saw an eight-hour line for its store opening, but people weren’t lined up because they wanted to get their hands on the latest Windows Phone. Microsoft was giving away free tickets for a sponsored Joe Jonas concert taking place the following weekend. To get a ticket, you had to stand in line during opening day.

  • Vic

    They did the same thing when they opened a store in Houston, people got free Taylor Swift tickets. But that isn’t the worst part… The store looks exactly like an Apple Store. They have the genius desk and everything. It’s crazy. I love Microsoft but that is just wrong. 

  • oakdesk23

    And for years Apple stores used Windows CE devices to ring up purchases.

  • Ezekiel

    Microsoft = not epic

  • techgeek01

    You do realize that Mac’s are more than capable of running Windows….?  So, that DJ could be running windows on his mac.  ;)

    Well, plus they hired this guy to do it for the day, he’s not an “employee”, so he probably would have brought is own equipement. 

  • Gereon

    Prolly, he was running the all new iZunes beta!
    Retro is al the rage these days!

  • Digi

    Yeah, of course, you gonna buy mac to run on s#|tty windowz on it! :D
    And if this guy is propper dj – he’s definitely using his own stuff!
    Microsoft is just lame!

  • djmak

    epic fail!!

  • Manhattan Hillbilly

    Apple’s first store at Tyson’s Corner. Genius Bar. High ceilings. Open space. Imitation is the sincerest form of Microsoft.

  • Pippin_73

    YEAH! The $2,400.00 MacBook model that doesn’t even have BLU-Ray or HDMI! I can keep up just fine with a VAIO or a Satellite with a i7 Quad Core CMP by Sandy Bridge (up to 3.1 GHz with turbo boost) and 8GB RAM for HALF the price.

  • Markteting?

    Looks like DJ… Nicolas Jaar?

  • Guest

    Exactly what I was going to say. Irony works both ways!

  • Guest

    No one uses Blu-ray. It’s DOA technology.

  • Digi

    And with windows on top of the cake! :D:D

  • Pippin_73

    That’s right!

  • jeanlouisnguyen

    I often hear the same remarks when I attend a Google event, or happen to watch one of their presentations on YouTube. “Look, look, they’re using Macs! #gfail!”. The fact is, Macs are common place in the Silicon Valley / tech world (except in Redmond VA). You’ll never see a Googler using Windows. They know better. :)

  • Tim_Meessemen

    O…k….

  • kal

    why the hell r u even reading cult of mac anyway JUDAS !  xD

  • OEB

    Wrong.  This is a 13 inch macbook. It doesn’t look like a 15 inch macbook pro to me. You can’t see the CNC’d speaker screens on it. It was originally around 1k and now is probably even less.  Stop making up shit to suit your agenda.  Fail.

    http://www.appleinsider.com/ar

  • Geraldrappdc

    That’s not a $999 white MacBook! It’s an aluminum chassis ..

  • OEB
  • Guest

    Tim_Meessemen stalks me across multiple websites.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    So what?
    Microsoft sells OS, not computers.

    A (Intel) MacBook Pro runs Microsoft windows.
    The Bad about Microsoft IS that IT stands on the shoulder of PC vendors, whose machines are nowadays NOT by accident MacBook Pro look alike.

  • Tim_Meessemen

    *hides*

  • Instinkt

    DJ is running Serato Scratch Live software on a Macbook Pro.

    You can notice the audio interface (SL2 or SL3) with RCA cables connected to the turntables.

    http://www.soundcloud.com/djinstinkt

  • dcj001

    You do realize that, when used correctly, apostrophes are used to show possession, not pluralization. 

  • Nudsui

    should have used the black keys again…

  • Richard Mears

    Where is the “What???” button?

  • Sergey Kamenezki

    Ppl come on.
    I love Apple and i am using their products.
    But there is no point to hate or dislike others.
    Each company and strategy has weak and strong points.
    As far as i remember Steve once said that for Apple to win Microsoft does not have to loose.
    So there good and bad stuff about both apple and msft.
    But when ppl trying to show their negative emotions about one of these corps they kinda sound silly.
    Cheers everyone ;-)

  • nthnm

    At least they used a giant sticker and didn’t use one just big enough to cover the apple like TV shows tend to do.

  • Len Williams

    Apple would NEVER allow anyone with an HP, Dell, Acer, VIAO… laptop in any one of their presentations/opening events, etc. because they realize the negative publicity it would generate. The Microsoft store manager was oblivious to the DJ and his Mac, didn’t bother to check what kind of equipment he used, and when he showed up, slapped a bandage/Windows Store sticker on his laptop, hoping no one would notice the obvious. Hmm, sort of like how their software looks and works… just sort of slapped together, hoping no one will notice.

  • jgr627

    Couldn’t have said it better myself……thanks for the good laugh

  • Boredumb

    wow, you actually think the store manager had anything to do with the hiring???  get out much?

  • APPL13D5C13NC3

    Pippin go shove your vaio up your sandy bridge prolapsed asshole you piece of shit and get the fuck off cult of mac.

  • John

    actually as someone who has been inside googles headquarters on a few occasions I can honestly say that more googlers than you’d think use windows

  • Mark Thompson

    Sorry dude but the guy is correct. That is a 13″ macbook… for a period of time they made an aluminum macbook. It was the Unibody_Model_A1278…. look it up

  • Waronxmas

    Just a quick fact check: This isn’t Microsoft’s first store in the East. They opened one in Atlanta back in May of this year…not that I would ever go to that piece of crap store though.

  • Junaidkureshi

    What a shame, bribing ppl for making long lines like Apple, this must be the idea of Ballmer, certified asshole.

  • Waycool

    “certified asshole” JayKay! You’re wayyy too cool!!!  I like … :-)

  • CharliK

    Tv shows do that because we really don’t care if you know what it is. That little sticker keeps us playing by the rules so we use it. Just like we put that iPad in a case(but don’t cover up the UI that closely)

  • Junaidkureshi

    Thnx man, u know him, he is kind of that.

  • Ricardo Morgado Ferreira

    People know the difference between hardware and software, right? Ever seen a Macbook Pro with Windows 7?

  • Jonathan Jorge

    Either way it was clearly a miscommunication, unless Windows is that “cool” with not caring what sort of hardware people use.  Personally it’s not about the sort of hardware one uses but the skills they possess.  I know DJ’s who both prefer Macs and PCs.  It’s all about preference.  

  • Anon Developer

    Well, to be fair, for years l, apple replied on microsoft’d windows mobile ce for their p.o.s …

  • oriste

    Yes

  • ? A M A N i ®

    Macbook pro Hardware with Windows 7 installed on it. 

  • Troy S

    His name is DJ Looser !!!!!

  • Rus Novikov

    Ha-ha-ha!!!!!!!!!! ))))))))))))

  • curtis jackson

    Should of had the MS logo with BSOD (blue screen of death), now that would of been WAY COOL! :)

  • iXeQuta

    Ever heard of Bootcamp?

  • AndreGSNE

    That DJ had no respect.

  • Shnarfer

    He’s = He is?

  • Huvit77

    who actualy cares?????

  • Reinoud van Zoelen

    What’s the problem? Shouldn’t Microsoft make a better product instead of acting that they are better….

  • Not telling

    Quit criticizing people. It’s not nice

  • Skywaytraffic

    No one posting on this thread is a musician obviously. No professional in their right mind would ever, EVER make music on a windows machine and would certainly NEVERRRR use one live. Chills me right to the bone even thinking about it. It’s all about stability which Windows just doesn’t have.

  • Frdmfghtr1

    Well, yes and no.  Apple Stores were using WinCE-based devices for mobile checkout because an Apple-based solution didn’t exist.  Now there is an Apple-based solution and it’s being used.  OTOH, there ARE Windows-based DJ solutions, but for this particular DJ, it is shunned in favor of an Apple-based solution.

  • Howie Isaacks

    The best part of this story is not that the DJ was using a Mac.  It’s that Microsoft has to bribe customers into showing up with free concert tickets.

  • Frdmfghtr1

    Ahh,the BSOD…haven’t seen one in years, until one day I walked past one of those Windows-based vending machines with a large screen on it.  How did I know it was Windows-based?  It had a very large BSOD on display for all to see…

  • Alexandre Junior

    Fuck is that Nicholas Jaar? :(

  • Ashleyswan88

    Microsoft will always be there they appeal to the majority but they just need to be honest with themselves there products, service and general image is second rate.

  • MmAaRrTtIiNnRr

    Noone would ever walk with a HP, Dell, Acer, VIAO… laptop in any one of Apple’s presentations/opening events, etc.,  because one would make an such an incredible fool of himself, whishing to hide in Sibir the rest of his life. 

  • RonBlatto

    Why’s that?  The DJ was hired by MS to perform his craft.  He’s an artist, he’s going to use his tools.  MS didn’t have to hire him but they did.   If MS didn’t want a DJ using Apple products they should have hired one who uses a Windows laptop.

  • RonBlatto

    I kind of agree with what you’re trying to say because I have Windows 7 on my MacBook Pro.  Shows that both companies can be useful to a single consumer.  However, from a marketing perspective, it would be naive to not think that Apple and MS are in competition and that it doesn’t look good for MS to have their DJ flashing Apple logos in their store.

  • Howie Isaacks

    You must have failed high school English.  Do you know the difference between there, they’re, and their?

  • RonBlatto

    A quick Google search of DJ Looser came back with results of a tall lanky white guy.  Did you mean to call him a “loser”?

  • Howie Isaacks

    I know three DJs.  They all use Macs.  Aside from the Mac having the coolness factor, they all say that it’s the stability that matters most.

  • Howie Isaacks

    Or they could have loaded up a crappy Windows PC with music, and told him to use that instead.

  • stophobophobia

    The problem is they couldn’t find one who uses a Windows laptop.

  • Narven

    This is just plain stupid. dont see whats the problem. if he is a mac user… is not going to learn to use windows… just because people dont like… or because its a microsoft event. people should use the tools that they have and that they are good at.

  • vistarox

    And Apple occasionally uses Windows PCs on their campus. Can someone please explain to me why this made it on Cult of Mac?

  • vistarox

    Mac’s are the best kind of PC =D

  • vistarox

    Apple wasn’t the first retailer to do those things. I seem to remember that they were “inspired” by Sony when making their retail stores

  • SupaMac

    that’s what i was thinking. Microsoft sells software. if he had windows 7 on it running in bootcamp or virtually, it really wouldnt make a difference. highly unlikely, but still. all we can see is the back of the screen

  • J. Ian Irby

    So what? He might have been using Apple iCloud also, which is powered by Windows Azure. ;)

  • SupaMac

    you are a tv show, lucas?

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    Microsoft DOESN’T compete with Apple, NOT now, perhaps when hardware become irrelevant ( in a near future ), and those members of the Windows vendors cartel LOSE their business.

    Right now Apple competes with windows vendors.
    Microsoft has most of the IT guys on its pockets, those guys and gals are the BEST vendors of windows.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    Microsoft sells OS, not computers.Windows-centric PC makers SELL computers.

  • RonBlatto

    MS doesn’t compete with Apple?  Why did Steve Balmer berate the MS employee who had an iPhone?  Why does Mrs Gates buy her kids Zunes and not iPods? Why is MS opening stores setup similar to Apple?  They are competitors.

  • CharliK

    humor. Or an attempt at it. Rather like when Microsoft put out those Laptop Hunter ads that always included a little bash on Apple as too expensive etc and it turns out that the company that produced them is a 100% Mac using company. 

  • CharliK

    The public can’t see the screen so the assumption when you see Mac hardware is that it is running Mac software. And they couldn’t have folks making that assumption. 

    That said, they could have done their homework better and actually asked what equipment he was using and better prepared to really cover up that logo, had him keep it in a place where it was totally out of line of sight for anyone etc. 

  • Moe Hosseini

    the guy was using a MacBook Pro so who gives a shit?

    This was actually worthy of writing? Oh look a guy is using MBP at the opening of a MS store, we must inform the elderlies.

  • CharliK

    Whether it was the store manager or a corporate suit, someone dropped the ball on vetting this guy and his equipment. As this was a publicity event where reporters, cameras etc should be expected, they would not have been out of line to demand only Windows hardware and software be used or if that was truly impossible than to demand that it be fully covered and kept completely out of sight

  • vistarox

    I wasn’t trying to be humorous. I was just saying that I don’t get what the big deal is. Microsoft and Apple use each others products all the time.

  • CharliK

    It doesn’t need Blu-ray, HDMI etc because he’s working with audio. He just needs a laptop that can hold a load of audio files, run DJay or some other controller etc. And even the white macbook can do that

    Even if it is the 15 inch, the low end is $1799. So your numbers are very off

  • CharliK

    Yes but they used them because they didn’t have a choice. It takes time to come up with the software that has the UI they want and can interface with their other systems, which were likely not all Apple created. It likely was, perhaps still is, 3rd party POS and inventory control software. That they were able to switch over only a year or so after the first iPod touches came out is actually surprising. 

    But compare that to this. Can you tell me that there is not a single Windows based DJ software that they could have required this guy to use. Or even just told him that he has to provide a case that completely blocks any logos and keep the unit totally out of sight so no one can see the screen. 

  • CharliK

    No, they don’t have a Genius desk. they have gurus. LOLs

    After borrowing the idea of the wood floors,the multicolor shirts etc. I wonder how they will borrow the idea of tablet based tech support that can happen anywhere on the floor. Oh wait they don’t have to borrow that one, they make you care HP etc for your hardware. 

  • Futzy

    Yeah, unlike engineers or scientists who don’t have to give a s**t on stability, musicians do have to take care about that…

  • Wicked4u2c

    What’s your point? Steve Wozniak picked up his Galaxy Nexus from Google. Why don’t you feature that on your website. That’s right, the co founder of Apple is now using an Android phone.

  • intergalactic_turkey

    Whay there is so much fuss about it? None gives damn about. The DJ is a freelance and can use any tool he wants. Stop making cheap sensations.

  • Brett

    It’s not like Apple already had a handheld point-of-sale solution, but decided that WinCE was superior.

    Apple just hadn’t gotten around rolling their own yet.   While the WinCE devices were adequate, Apple obviously felt they could do better with the iPhone… and eventually did.

  • Josh Ward

    Obviously it’s a big enough deal to cause Microsoft to sticker over the computer. Maybe you’re diminishing this in your mind because you don’t want it to be a big issue. So you have a bias, like everyone else. Yawn.

  • Gp

    sometimes this blog seems run by teenagers…

  • AJ

    For the first year of operation the Apple Stores used a handheld device for wireless checkout/CC processing that ran on Windows Mobile…  

  • Hampus

    Because windows is just so unstable… Hmm lets see here, yea my computers uptime is currently 19 days and 4 hours, clearly it’s pretty unstable…

    Look, I love Apple and the next computer I’m buying will be a Mac (Macbook Air) but they only way someone would pick a Mac primarily because of stability is if the last time the used windows was a decade ago… if even that…
    There are many reasons why one would want to pick OS X over Windows (and vice versa) but stability isn’t one of them…

  • Ravenatic

    Why is this news and why do people care?
    He could have been running Windows on the mac….

  • vistarox

    You’re 100% right. I do have a bias. That why I have an iPad, use an Android phone, buy music from Amazon, listen to music on a Zune HD and use a Dell XPS and MacBook Pro.

    (And yes, I was being sarcastic. Your logic makes no sense)

  • Contax7

    inappropriate [who booked him] , badly fixed [sticker], tiz relevant [what’s being sold?], in a ‘copycat’ store [overlooked by all], tiz funny at many levels [i think so] MS-clunky as ever.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    That examples makes them DIRECT competitors NOT.

    Many people out there hate Apple’s japanese and northern European aesthetic, even Japanese companies shy away from that aesthetic ( but for other reasons ).

    Microsoft competes with Apple indirectly, standing on the shoulders of IT professionals ( who sells PC to companies ) and its own cartel that sells Windows-centric PCs.

    Only when hardware no longer matters MS will directly compete with Apple.

  • C-breezy

    I was going to say that too. There is a windows store @ Lennox Square Mall in Atlanta. I go to that mall all the time and the store is usually empty. I went in there a few weeks back with an apple bag containing an iPhone 4S. The employees approached me asking what was in the bag then proceeded to tell me that Windows Phone 7 devices were superior. I laughed and walked out haha…

  • C-breezy

    By Windows store I mean Microsoft Store….

  • Corey Grandy

    Wonder why he was waiting in line for a 4S last month then…?

  • willsmorgan

    Untrue. He bought an iPhone 4S on launch. I’m sure that was featured on this website as well.

  • willsmorgan

    I think you need to look up irony. It’s obviously gunning for the humour approach and not the ‘Mac is better’ as you seemed to think.

  • D-breezy

    Pretty mean-spirited. They’re just getting paid to do a job.

  • Daniel Brown

    They were using Windows Mobile to check out people long after the first year. It wasn’t until only in the last year or two that the finally switched to iPhones. But I can attest to Windows Mobile being used as last as 2009. Hadden’t gone back into a store though until a few weeks ago when I saw the iPhones (or maybe iPod Touches) being used for checkout.

  • Daniel Brown

    This is true, actually.

    While Woz did indeed wait in line for the 4S (and he didn’t have to wait, but chose to because he said he liked being with the fans) he ALSO got a free Galaxy Nexus.

    You can see that here: http://www.slashgear.com/steve

  • 333

    Should have used a beats

  • SevanGrim

    and i have seen mac’s crash on a DJ and ruin the party at least 6 times. seriously if a Dj bought an Alienware or some high end laptop like that and wasnt running any background programs, they could totaly run their stuff just as well if not better. My i5 gateway comp has yet to crash (which surprised even me) and ive had it for 6 months and run a multitude of programs simultaneously that should really be pushing it. matter of fact, the only thing that every shows signs of inconsistency is itunes, whic freezes up twice as much as it used to since ios5 and itunes 10 came out

  • SevanGrim

    they didnt think about it. I know several windows using Dj’s. It obviously didnt occur to th manager of the store.

  • SevanGrim

    with hours of music and DJ software configured to his liking? No. They could not have.

  • SevanGrim

    not really that big a deal.
     many DJ’s use mac books. They crash just as much as a windows laptop would. The only reason they became a staple for DJ’s to use is becuase many up and comers cant afford a work PC and a play pc, so they buy into the hype that Apple comps are virus proof and get a macbook… except we know how true that is…
     

  • Carlos André Góes

    DJs are not musicians… 

  • BeachWar

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YEAH RIGHT!

  • Donnybill

    This comment is just silly. You are a true comedian!

  • Grammarmac
  • JMMMMM

    I reboot my Macbook Pro laptop about as much as Evan Lee Battle gets laid.  Way to troll, big guy.

  • AlanD

    He HAS an Android phone; we don’t know that he USES it.  I also would have multiple Android phones in addition to the iPhone 4S that I actually use, so that I can be appropriately educated to the benefits and drawbacks of each.  Woz, being a) rich, and b) a major geek, wants to know as much as possible about all this stuff.

  • HA HA!!

    Wow, this guy is a pure moron.  Way to go trying to support an obvious no brain attempt by Gates to use money to force his way into main stream, instead of real innovation.  I have several MAC’s and they NEVER fail, my Lenovo IBM is a piece of crap because of Windows, but brand new.  Only post a comment if you have something useful and logical to say (i.e. Microsoft should have failed a long time ago, but that is what money, monopolies and too big to fail force does).

  • imajoebob

    Next purchase should be to buy yourself a clue.  (Who EVER thought you were trying to be humorus?)

  • imajoebob

    Atlanta:South

  • imajoebob

    Then why did MS other to cover it up?  “It runs Windows!”
    The humor is is in the clumsiness of the effort – much like the general Microsoft Store effort.

  • Meeps

    After Linux (stability), Windows is better than Mac (as a semiprofessional musician whom uses all 3) due to the sheer amount of quality tools available to Windows. When I DJ I use Traktor; one Windows machine mixing into a Mac.  When I use softsynths, Linux can’t be beaten, nor can it for live mixing. 

    All three have their positives and downsides. Non are anywhere near unstable enough to not consider using any one of them for anything. If I had to, I would be more than happy to use Linux, Windows or Macintosh for any job, DJing with Mixxx or Traktor. Those who actually care about what they do are more considerate about the nuances of their OS, they don’t care about just slagging off others.

  • phillohren

    Hardly a deal, let alone a big deal… it’s just a DJ…

  • Steven T

    well it was the only good enough mobile devices then. 
    and that’s why apple created the iPhone for.

  • Steven T

    sadly, i don’t know of any Dj using windows who are doing well. last i knew, a Dj lost his credibility when his Windows BSOD on him half way through the VIP preview.

  • Steven T

    obviously don’t know why the Dj is using a mac to begin with.

  • jmeeter

    Extremely unlikely!

  • Jeff

    Untrue…macs crash less than windows computers. A Mac is better because the hardware and os are design for one another and the basis of the os is the very stable unix platform. Windows machine are cobbled together with a “try to work with everything” os based on DOS.

  • Jeff

    Yes and windows runs better on a Mac than on a pc.

  • Waronxmas

    Last time I checked Virginia is in the south and Georgia has a coast on the Atlantic. In other words, both are in the East. Georgia is Southeast, Virginia is Mid Atlantic. To quote De La Soul “The East Coast is lot more than New York and Philadelph”

  • Ch

    tiz a hard to read comment [i think so]

  • Ch

    AlanD didn’t mention at all Woz having an iPhone 4S, although most people who read CoM regularly know he was in line for one.  

  • Ch

    No computer is fool proof and crash proof.  Period.  It doesn’t matter what the hardware is, it doesn’t matter what the OS is, or anything like that.  Nothing is 100% reliable.  I use a Mac for running sound effects for live theater, and I still have a backup, usually two.  I’ve used equipment that is dedicated to running one piece of software at a time still choke at times.  (That was a new Mac Pro).

  • Ch

    It could run windows, but we don’t know what it IS running now for that event.

  • Ch

    Wrong again.  It is a Macbook Pro, and it isn’t 13″.  The 13″ Pro keyboard comes right to the edge of the device, where as with a 15, there is a gap.   Just because you can’t see the speakers, doesn’t mean they aren’t there.  It’s because of the angle that they are hard to find.

  • Dan Markus

    Troll alert! wait… let me correct that… Troll-who-never-used-a-Mac alter!

  • facebook-602274890

    Did you fail at getting laid in High School? What’s next?  A speling critique?  

    (yes tool, I did that on purpose)

  • Imp

    I moved from vinyl to laptop/serato in 2005 using a powerbook and more recently a macbook, NEVER ONCE did they “crash”, and I dj weekly.. And as far as the dj’s that I’ve dj’d with using PCs…they need more time for their laptops to power up, they are glitchy and unstable.

  • lozil

    Whats the Deal…? The Pro Runs Windows 7…. :P

  • Philcolli

    Haha, Microsoft give stuff away and the people they hire to bring the public in use Apple goods. Classic!!!

  • Bizarrefoodie

    You know, I don’t believe I’ve seen the old BSoD since I stopped using my win98 computer. I may have to break it out and try installing a game that requires way more ram than it has, just for old times sake! :P My Mac is just so much more of a pleasure to use than any of my windows machines, even without the BSoD.

  • Bizarrefoodie

    “…only windows hardware and software…” There’s no such thing as “windows hardware.”

  • Josiah C

    No as a matter of fact Wired did tests a little while ago proving that point. :) 

  • Josiah C

    Actually scratch Wired. It was Popular Mechanics.

  • SevanGrim

    lol my worst is biweekly and thats just these last couple months since i got out of  6 year relationship where it was often daily. soooo…. thanks for trying to bash my sex life?

  • SevanGrim

    wow to the lot of you bellow. Ive used a mac. for 6 months before i bought my own pc with my own money. You people are very happy being limited to what Apple gives you. I am not.
      ive seen at least 6 dj’s macbooks crash mid party or before and causing a delay. maybe if you use one normally it doesnt crash so much, but the more you personalize, the greater the likelihood of a crash.
     Let me walk you wieners through this:
     your running a very heavy mixing program or two. A soundboard or 4. youve customized your layout. Your tapping into 20+gigs of music. And your running the drivers for a bunch of  physical devices… as well as possibly recording your nights work.
     Your doing it nightly for 4-6 hours, and during the day your mixing and downloading music, and probably using it for standard use too.

    PRO DJ’S DO NOT USE COMPUTERS THE WAY NORMAL PEOPLE DO! The reason Dj’s jumped to Macs was because they couldnt risk their laptops getting infected by viruses as it was their livelihood, and Mac’s didnt get them. So it was technically a twofer. But with all that action and customization, Mac’s become just as likely to crash as pc’s… which crash for exactly the same reason.
    obviously you guys have either had bad experiences with Pc’s, or your just really good at giving your money and loyalty to the flashiest company. I have spent the last 6 years with macs, PC’s, all 3 game system companies, motorolas and LG’s and Iphones amd ipods and various other Mp3s. I dont really subscribe to any one thing. I go with what works for what.

    bottom line: Mac’s crash, and your stupid to say they dont. Go spend a couple hours at a genius bar listening to customers being pissed that their God machine broke again and tell them they are wrong.

  • SevanGrim

    lol that sucks. I know a DJ who lost his gig cuz his Macbook froze out his mixing software. A Dj who was just at the party for party sake pulled out his iphone and zune and kept the party going all night with mixes he had saved on them and mixes he had made in an app that morning.

  • Janerobinson

    Thanks for pointing this out, Meeps. I’ve used both Windoze and Macs before, but I’ve now stayed with Linux (presently, Ubuntu) for years now, since it is way more stable–and that’s what computers ought to be good at (predictability!). The arguments here about Windoze vs. Apple remind me of debates in the US about Democrat vs. Republican. All the independents go happily their own way and let the rest bicker about the minor ways the two main parties differ (two factions of the same Business Party). Same with computers, IMHO.

  • Duck Egg

    Oh the irony.

  • Shaunathan Sprocket

    Actually Evan, your post above shows how ignorant you are about DJing.   DJ’s use the mac because it’s the preferred platform for Serato Scratch Live.  The number 1 DJing software. Although it’s available for PC, it runs a million times better on systems with premium Ram and bus speeds.  Most PC’s aren’t high enough quality to get the internal bandwith required for hours of throughput without a hiccup.   Many “up and comers” use PC software, but if you ask them, the majority are saving up for a mac and serato.

    It really has very little to do with Virii because most DJ’s will use the computer only for their music.  PC’s are so dirt cheap there’s no need to use the mac to browse the web and download items.

  • Shaunathan Sprocket

    Wow, you’re just silly, let’s walk through your example:

    You: your running a very heavy mixing program or two.
    Me: First of all, if you’re DJing a gig, you are only using ONE mixing program.  You have no need to work 2.  I have 2 turntables, a CDmixer, and my MP3’s in one program.

     You: A soundboard or 4.
    Me: You only need one soundboard connected.  The rest of the mixing is happening at the Serato junction box or your mixer.

    You: youve customized your layout.
    Me: DJ’s I know who work for the big 3 promoters in Vegas aren’t doing too much Customizing.

    You: Your tapping into 20+gigs of music.
    Me: Yep, that’s why you have a mac, firewire is a lifesaver here, Or better yet a SSD inside your mac if you can afford it.

    You: And your running the drivers for a bunch of  physical devices… as well as possibly recording your nights work.
    Me: Again, have you used professional DJ software?  There isn’t many drivers involved and most pro DJ’s if they’re recording live have jacks from the mixer to any recording device.   Only a fool would record onto the same computer they are mixing from.  
    You:  Your doing it nightly for 4-6 hours, and during the day your mixing and downloading music, and probably using it for standard use too. 
    Me: I download my whitelables from the record labels, they don’t have virii.  Are you downloading music illegally?  Is that why you’re panicked?

  • imajoebob

    No, Korea is in the East. Sheesh.

    In case you forgot, there was a minor conflict that established general guidelines about this.

  • algerts

    majority?

  • SevanGrim

    you can run all of the great mixing programs on a high end Pc, which cost around as much as a macbook. NOW people are after macbooks for the hype of them. But initially it was because when up and comers saved up for a good comp to use, they couldnt afford to get two. So they got the one that at was immune to viruses so they could use them often.
     
     Most PC’s are not highend (many are buget, and most are budget/performance hybrids), so saying most cant handle the software is kinda misleading. Most of the high end ones that run around the same price as a new macbook can do everything a mac can. But you dont look as cool with a random PC that most people dont recognize as you do with that sleek Macbook that even 10 year olds can name.

  • SevanGrim

    everything your describing is not ALL DJ’s. Its some. Its a majority of the Macbook users. But whatever. This is getting pointless. You guys all seem to think every PC crashes regularly, and every Macbook never crashes. If that were truly the case, the PC market would look like the phone market, with Apple dominating and everyone else scrambling. Not the case.
     
    not gonna keep arguing this. Theres no point on a MAc website. but like i said, spend a couple hours at a genius bar.

  • Durp

    Lol dignifying yourself with that…. Poor guy.

  • RonBlatto

    Your argument makes zero sense (sorry for the delay, holiday travels).  MS and Apple are in competition and not indirectly.  MS chose to license out their software to various hardware makers.  Apple chose to have more user control of the OS experience by developing the software and manufacturing the hardware too.  

    Who do you think pays licensing fees when a VAIO gets sold?  Does MS pay Sony or does Sony pay MS?

    The hardware is irrelevant in deciding whether there is a MS vs Apple competition.  The hardware competition you’re talking about isn’t Apple vs Sony. It’s competition between various Windows licensees.  

    I rarely hear people argue whether they’re going to  buy a Dell or an HP or a Sony.  Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price.  However, I hear people debating all the time whether to buy a Windows or a Mac.  Apple built a largely successful ad campaign (within the last 4 years) against their competitor (MS) on that.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    You:

    •• Your argument makes zero sense …

    Me:

    •• Really?
         Microsoft also makes money from people who use Windows on the Mac. And they are plenty out there.
         So how is that direct competition?

    50 years from now, certainly in LES time than that, hardware will be irrelevant, specs ARE already irrelevant, because people understand that putting things together does NOT make A difference, and that design is NOT the look of things BUT how things work Together. Apple design is consistent, looking back.

    Microsoft NEEDS Windows PC makers More than they need Microsoft nowadays but in the future if they DO not diversify they will bite the dust ( when hardware become irrelevant and ships are implanted in humans – it is near. ).

    You: 
    •• However, I hear people debating all the time whether to buy a Windows or a Mac. 

    Me:
    •• People choose freely WHEN they buy a Mac ( although when i bought my first Mac, the first flat panel 17” iMac, i had never heard of Apple computers, i just dropped square in love for the boldness of its design, and though it had XP in it. ), invariably people buy a Windows PC because of ads ( price are always in BIG fonts ) or because the IT guy in their work place said so.

    If Microsoft LOST market share ( what it is more preoccupied with ) WHO is to blame?

      • Itself surely, but Microsoft depends and lives on the shoulders of companies who SELL but develops almost NO technology for the Personal Computer. How many technology Apples introduced with most versions of its computers lineup in a decade, compared with PC technology by the Windows vendors cartel?

     • So with which companies Apple competes with when people go shopping PCs?
     — As you wrote Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price. People compare hardware, NO software, and most people DO not use Microsoft Office.

    So you by writing – Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price – corroborates my point THAT Apple competes NOT with Microsoft but with the windows vendors cartel. and Apple deserves PRIZES for that because it is winning against a consortium of BIG bucks, which shamelessly copy Apple’s researched design ( good design is only achieved with engineering/experimenting, which cost money ) and tech without spending a dime.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    You:

    •• Your argument makes zero sense …

    Me:

    •• Really?
         Microsoft also makes money from people who use Windows on the Mac. And they are plenty out there.
         So how is that direct competition?

    50 years from now, certainly in LES time than that, hardware will be irrelevant, specs ARE already irrelevant, because people understand that putting things together does NOT make A difference, and that design is NOT the look of things BUT how things work Together. Apple design is consistent, looking back.

    Microsoft NEEDS Windows PC makers More than they need Microsoft nowadays but in the future if they DO not diversify they will bite the dust ( when hardware become irrelevant and ships are implanted in humans – it is near. ).

    You: 
    •• However, I hear people debating all the time whether to buy a Windows or a Mac. 

    Me:
    •• People choose freely WHEN they buy a Mac ( although when i bought my first Mac, the first flat panel 17” iMac, i had never heard of Apple computers, i just dropped square in love for the boldness of its design, and though it had XP in it. ), invariably people buy a Windows PC because of ads ( price are always in BIG fonts ) or because the IT guy in their work place said so.

    If Microsoft LOST market share ( what it is more preoccupied with ) WHO is to blame?

      • Itself surely, but Microsoft depends and lives on the shoulders of companies who SELL but develops almost NO technology for the Personal Computer. How many technology Apples introduced with most versions of its computers lineup in a decade, compared with PC technology by the Windows vendors cartel?

     • So with which companies Apple competes with when people go shopping PCs?
     — As you wrote “Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price”. People compare hardware, NO software, and most people DO not use Microsoft Office.

    So you by writing – “Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price” – corroborates my point THAT Apple competes NOT with Microsoft but with the windows vendors cartel. and Apple deserves PRIZES for that because it is winning against a consortium of BIG bucks, which shamelessly copy Apple’s researched design ( good design is only achieved with engineering/experimenting, which cost money ) and tech without spending a dime.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    You:

    •• Your argument makes zero sense …

    Me:

    •• Really?
         Microsoft also makes money from people who use Windows on the Mac. And they are plenty out there.
         So how is that direct competition?

    50 years from now, certainly in LES time than that, hardware will be irrelevant, specs ARE already irrelevant, because people understand that putting things together does NOT make A difference, and that design is NOT the look of things BUT how things work Together. Apple design is consistent, looking back.

    Microsoft NEEDS Windows PC makers More than they need Microsoft nowadays but in the future if they DO not diversify they will bite the dust ( when hardware become irrelevant and ships are implanted in humans – it is near. ).

    You: 
    •• However, I hear people debating all the time whether to buy a Windows or a Mac. 

    Me:
    •• People choose freely WHEN they buy a Mac ( although when i bought my first Mac, the first flat panel 17” iMac, i had never heard of Apple computers, i just dropped square in love for the boldness of its design, and though it had XP in it. ), invariably people buy a Windows PC because of ads ( price are always in BIG fonts ) or because the IT guy in their work place said so.

    If Microsoft LOST market share ( what it is more preoccupied with ) WHO is to blame?

      • Itself surely, but Microsoft depends and lives on the shoulders of companies who SELL but develops almost NO technology for the Personal Computer. How many technology Apples introduced with most versions of its computers lineup in a decade, compared with PC technology by the Windows vendors cartel?

     • So with which companies Apple competes with when people go shopping PCs?
     — As you wrote “Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price”. People compare hardware, NO software, and most people DO not use Microsoft Office.

    So you by writing – “Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price” – corroborates my point THAT Apple competes NOT with Microsoft but with the windows vendors cartel. and Apple deserves PRIZES for that because it is winning against a consortium of BIG bucks, which shamelessly copy Apple’s researched design ( good design is only achieved with engineering/experimenting, which cost money ) and tech without spending a dime.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    You:

    •• Your argument makes zero sense …

    Me:

    •• Really?
         Microsoft also makes money from people who use Windows on the Mac. And they are plenty out there.
         So how is that direct competition?

    50 years from now, certainly in LES time than that, hardware will be irrelevant, specs ARE already irrelevant, because people understand that putting things together does NOT make A difference, and that design is NOT the look of things BUT how things work Together. Apple design is consistent, looking back.

    Microsoft NEEDS Windows PC makers More than they need Microsoft nowadays but in the future if they DO not diversify they will bite the dust ( when hardware become irrelevant and ships are implanted in humans – it is near. ).

    You: 
    •• However, I hear people debating all the time whether to buy a Windows or a Mac. 

    Me:
    •• People choose freely WHEN they buy a Mac ( although when i bought my first Mac, the first flat panel 17” iMac, i had never heard of Apple computers, i just dropped square in love for the boldness of its design, and though it had XP in it. ), invariably people buy a Windows PC because of ads ( price are always in BIG fonts ) or because the IT guy in their work place said so.

    If Microsoft LOST market share ( what it is more preoccupied with ) WHO is to blame?

      • Itself surely, but Microsoft depends and lives on the shoulders of companies who SELL but develops almost NO technology for the Personal Computer. How many technology Apples introduced with most versions of its computers lineup in a decade, compared with PC technology by the Windows vendors cartel?

     • So with which companies Apple competes with when people go shopping PCs?
     — As you wrote “Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price”. People compare hardware, NO software, and most people DO not use Microsoft Office.

    So you by writing – “Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price” – corroborates my point THAT Apple competes NOT with Microsoft but with the windows vendors cartel. and Apple deserves PRIZES for that because it is winning against a consortium of BIG bucks, which shamelessly copy Apple’s researched design ( good design is only achieved with engineering/experimenting, which cost money ) and tech without spending a dime.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    @Ron Blatto’d

    You:

    •• Your argument makes zero sense …

    Me:

    •• Really?
         Microsoft also makes money from people who use Windows on the Mac. And they are plenty out there.
         So how is that direct competition?

    50 years from now, certainly in LES time than that, hardware will be irrelevant, specs ARE already irrelevant, because people understand that putting things together does NOT make A difference, and that design is NOT the look of things BUT how things work Together. Apple design is consistent, looking back.

    Microsoft NEEDS Windows PC makers More than they need Microsoft nowadays but in the future if they DO not diversify they will bite the dust ( when hardware become irrelevant and chips are implanted in humans – it is near. ).

    You: 
    •• However, I hear people debating all the time whether to buy a Windows or a Mac. 

    Me:
    •• People choose freely WHEN they buy a Mac ( although when i bought my first Mac, the first flat panel 17” iMac, i had never heard of Apple computers, i just dropped square in love for the boldness of its design, and though it had XP in it. ), invariably people buy a Windows PC because of ads ( price are always in BIG fonts ) or because the IT guy in their work place said so.

    If Microsoft LOST market share ( what it is more preoccupied with ) WHO is to blame?

      • Itself surely, but Microsoft depends and lives on the shoulders of companies who SELL but develops almost NO technology for the Personal Computer. How many technology Apples introduced with most versions of its computers lineup in a decade, compared with PC technology by the Windows vendors cartel?

     • So with which companies Apple competes with when people go shopping PCs?
     — As you wrote “Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price”. People compare hardware, NO software, and most people DO not use Microsoft Office.

    So you by writing – “Typically it’s whatever system has the best hardware specs for the lowest price” – corroborates my point THAT Apple competes NOT with Microsoft but with the windows vendors cartel. and Apple deserves PRIZES for that because it is winning against a consortium of BIG bucks, which shamelessly copy Apple’s researched design ( good design is only achieved with engineering/experimenting, which cost money ) and tech without spending a dime.

  • SevanGrim

    what can i say. i like to wallow.

  • SevanGrim

    what can i say. i like to wallow.