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Smashing Pumpkins’ Billy Corgan Says iTunes Is Making Rock Too “Cuddly”

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Every alternative punk in the 90s knows Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins’ bald, amorphous, nasally-voiced lead singer. And he can sometimes be an idiot. Now he’s being an idiot about iTunes.

In an interview with Antiquiet, Billy Corgan blamed the “decline” of rock and roll — which, if you’ll look around, is actually in ascent, largely because it’s so much easier to reach an audience with iTunes than it once was — squarely on iTunes shoulders. Why? Because it’s too cuddly.

You don’t need an army, you don’t need a tank, you don’t need a bayonet. You just need a really good fucking idea. There’s something about a guy… just like Tom Morello had this quote on his guitar from Woody Guthrie: “This guitar is a fucking weapon. This guitar kills fascists.” Love kills fucking fascists. And when music is so goddamned fucking iTunes friendly cuddly, it makes me want to fucking puke. It’s not for everybody to be like that, but where is that voicing in the greater collective voices? Why don’t we have that anymore?

Deep, man, deep. Keep in mind, every album Smashing Pumpkins ever released is on iTunes. Heck, ebem Corgan’s follow-up band, Zwan, is there.

Don’t you just love it when rockers who have been nurtured and coddled and become millionaires through the studio system start lashing out at the new generation of artists trying to get their music out in any way they can as somehow lacking their edge?

What a doof.

Source: Antiquiet
Via: TUAW

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13 responses to “Smashing Pumpkins’ Billy Corgan Says iTunes Is Making Rock Too “Cuddly””

  1. Justin Gilbert says:

    Yes, God forbid publishing music be made easier so more musicians can be heard.  We should definitely go back to the time before iTunes and YouTube where musicians had to have a recording contract to be heard by anyone outside of their local scene.  

    What a dumb ass.
  2. Ed_Kel says:

    The only one being an idiot is you for calling someone an idiot because they don’t like what iTunes has done to the industry.. He makes a good point. Anyone and their brother can release music nowadays and that’s not necessarily a good thing. Every once in awhile you find a rising star but for the most part it floods the genre with complete and utter crap and for a consumer like myself, it’s hard to weed through it. 


    It’s like an ‘actual’ journalist paying the dues and working up the ladder only to get pummeled by brain dead, well, you know where I am going with this. It doesn’t give journalism a good name, ya dig?
  3. Justin Gilbert says:

    The only one being an idiot is you for calling someone an idiot because they don’t like what iTunes has done to the industry.. He makes a good point. Anyone and their brother can release music nowadays and that’s not necessarily a good thing. Every once in awhile you find a rising star but for the most part it floods the genre with complete and utter crap and for a consumer like myself, it’s hard to weed through it. 


    It’s like an ‘actual’ journalist paying the dues and working up the ladder only to get pummeled by brain dead, well, you know where I am going with this. It doesn’t give journalism a good name, ya dig?

    So we should only allow musicians to be heard if a record label says they are worth a shot?  We shouldn’t be able to judge for ourselves if its a good song or not?  I’ve heard plenty of Indy bands in the past few years I’d never have been able to listen to if it weren’t for places like iTunes.

    I’m not saying there isn’t crap, but the listener should be able to determine that, not some big wig at a record label.
  4. Czech_Boy says:

    Maybe he should make a good album, then he wont be so bitter about iTunes. Oceania is terrible. It’s really sad to hear how much he’s lost it. I honestly think Billy is tone def :( 

  5. applesandsynths says:

    Hey Brownlee,

    You’re an idiot for thinking that someone who has a different opinion than you is an idiot.
  6. Ed_Kel says:

    The only one being an idiot is you for calling someone an idiot because they don’t like what iTunes has done to the industry.. He makes a good point. Anyone and their brother can release music nowadays and that’s not necessarily a good thing. Every once in awhile you find a rising star but for the most part it floods the genre with complete and utter crap and for a consumer like myself, it’s hard to weed through it. 


    It’s like an ‘actual’ journalist paying the dues and working up the ladder only to get pummeled by brain dead, well, you know where I am going with this. It doesn’t give journalism a good name, ya dig?

    So we should only allow musicians to be heard if a record label says they are worth a shot?  We shouldn’t be able to judge for ourselves if its a good song or not?  I’ve heard plenty of Indy bands in the past few years I’d never have been able to listen to if it weren’t for places like iTunes.

    I’m not saying there isn’t crap, but the listener should be able to determine that, not some big wig at a record label.

    I wholeheartedly agree, record labels shouldn’t speak for us and our tastes … paradoxical I guess … but I will also admit that he, along with other big players of the industry, like MJK an his explanation to his unsigned approach of Puscifer, makes extremely good points and insight as to exactly where the industry is heading because of outlets like iTunes. It’s something we should embrace, but it’s not necessarily the “best thing since Elvis” for the genre.

  7. Jeff Briant says:

    calling someone an idiot because they don’t express the same opinion as you is the single biggest thing that is tearing the entertainment world around us down from the inside out.

    I’m with Ed_Kel on this one.
    Also, the Smashing Pumpkins rock, people are now bashing the band because of a writing approach best left to fading reporters.

    Who cares what he thinks about itunes or this or that.. I work for a TV network that airs retarded reality tv shows, and I don’t like them, does that make me an idiot?
  8. Shane Bryson says:

    Corgan has only had like 5 good songs in his whole career. Maybe that is why he is so angry?

  9. MikeyGorman says:

    Give it to Apple Fanboys and incendiary bloggers who don’t know the difference between a noun and an adjective.

    He is using “itunes” as a adjective. He is not bashing iTunes as a whole (after all he does have an album coming out). He could have said lowest common denominator or pop garbage….. or Nickleback. He is talking about the crap that floats to the top of iTunes charts.
    It is a matter of taste.
    P.S. – I am an Apple Fanboy. I just know the difference between a noun and adjective.
  10. MikeyGorman says:

    Give it to Apple Fanboys and incendiary bloggers who don’t know the difference between a noun and an adjective.

    He is using “itunes” as a adjective. He is not bashing iTunes as a whole (after all he does have an album coming out). He could have said lowest common denominator or pop garbage….. or Nickleback. He is talking about the crap that floats to the top of iTunes charts.
    It is a matter of taste.
    P.S. – I am an Apple Fanboy. I just know the difference between a noun and adjective.
  11. Rick Belluso says:
    Billy was one of my childhood idols. I still regard him as one of the most prolific and talented songwriters of the time, but unfortunately I think that time is over. He isn’t producing music that has mass-appeal anymore, and he blames it on everybody else but himself. It’s obvious that he wants more of the spotlight; if he was truly content writing and releasing music for the joy of it and didn’t care about adoration and recognition, he wouldn’t have such strong opinions about the “demise of rock” or how access and distribution are ruining music.
    A few years ago I paid way too much money for a Smashing Pumpkins ‘meet and greet’ thing where there were 40 of us in a room with Billy and Jimmy. Jimmy is the man, simply a nice guy. Billy is doom and gloom of course, but what really surprised me was how he blamed everybody in the room for not being good enough fans. Seriously, he was saying that we’re the reason the band is not popular anymore – and some poor folks were eating it up, even saying pathetic stuff like, “Billy, we’re sorry…what can we do? We’ll help you – just let us know!” Sure, after paying nearly $400 to get scolded by some 40 year old brat. Billy truly accepted that person’s comment as if she really should be sorry! It was laughable and unreal. That’s when I realized the Billy I thought I knew was dead. He is surrounded by people who adore him unconditionally, and he won’t accept criticism. I think he confuses his own conviction/stubbornness for genius, when some humility for the craft of songwriting would serve him better.
    Anyway, iTunes isn’t ruining anything. Home studios aren’t ruining anything. The Internet isn’t ruin anything. There has never been a better time for hearing and discovering great quality (and great sounding) music of all different types. It’s a popularity game, as it always was…but now the playing field is more fair. iTunes isn’t changing people’s taste in music. People like what they like. A musician simply needs great songs and a marketable image to make it; recording is cheap, distribution is nearly free, it really depends on the songs. Billy doesn’t have the songs anymore – sure, people still love his music, but does it appeal to a mass audience. So what’s the problem?
    Everyone’s opinion is fine with me on this stuff; nobody is an idiot, but personally I don’t think iTunes or any distribution channel is changing or ruining anything. Success in the music industry is more democratic than ever; either people download/stream your stuff or they don’t.
  12. Uther_Pendragon says:

    And when music is so goddamned fucking iTunes friendly cuddly, it makes me want to fucking puke.


    Which part of this do you disagree with? I just got CCR’s greatest hits from iTunes. What mainstream band now a days would have the stones to write, record and perform a song like Fortunate Son at the pinnacle of the most unpopular war in history?

    iTunes is cuddly. iTunes is Disneyesque. I have a youngster, so most of the time, that’s a good thing. Having said that, I don’t see much modern day razor edge stuff on there. It’s not for lack of geopolitical issues that have happened in the last 10 years.

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