Look around in Google’s new social network, Google+. You’ll see Apple design DNA everywhere. The clean, white space. The knowing and careful attention to typography type, shade and spacing. The icons are beautiful in a simple, balanced, Apple kind of way.
The coolest feature on the whole site, the “circle editor,” was in fact designed primarily by the same guy who was a lead designer on the original Macintosh.
Google+ presents itself as a social network that competes with Facebook. But once you use it, you realize that it’s an uber-communication device that can replace all forms of online communication, from blogging and micro-blogging to chatting, texting and e-mail. Talk about thinking different.
Google also took a page from the Apple playbook about entering late into a market that’s mature, but seriously flawed, and succeeding in that market by fixing what’s broken on the products of competitors. Think cell phones. When Apple announced its entry into the handset market in 2007, I thought it was too late for them to catch up to the dominant players, including Nokia, Palm, RIM and others. Apple caught up with and clobbered these former leaders by identifying what was seriously flawed with their products and making a product without those flaws. And this is exactly what Google is doing with Google+.
It’s clear that after many fits and starts, Google has finally built an awesome social network, in part by learning from Apple.
But what can Apple learn from Google+?
Design ideas — any ideas, really — function like plant biology (this is the concept behind the “meme.”) The adaptive, successful ideas survive and reproduce and come to dominate. As part of their survival mechanism, other varieties somehow gain access to the successful DNA, and incorporate it. For example, when scientists develop some kind of weed-resistant, pest-resistant variety of genetically modified corn, DNA from the GMO strain always shows up in non-GMO corn in nearby fields.
This is what’s happening in the consumer-facing technology industry. Apple has succeeded so blatantly with its approach to design, that many companies can survive only if they incorporate some of that design DNA into their own products. Android tablets, for example, will succeed only to the extent that they can approach the iPad in look, feel, performance, usability and so on, while maybe adding a few things the iPad doesn’t have (USB support, ruggedized casings or whatever).
As in biology, where no two species can occupy the same “ecological niche,” the same physical space while consuming the same resources in the same way, other products can’t survive by copying Apple. They have to borrow from Apple, then add something Apple doesn’t have that’s compelling to a lot of users.
Apple is the most borrowed-from company in technology right now. But Apple should — and does – borrow back from others.
Google+ is the biggest culture-changing product to emerge from Google since Google Search itself. And Apple can learn from it.
Here’s what Apple can learn from Google+:
* You can go big with social networking and still succeed. Apple’s pathetic attempt at social networking, Ping, was an incredibly “small” idea for a great company like Apple. Social networking is the Big Thing online for users, yes, but especially for the future of advertising and business. The Googles and the Facebooks of the world could pull away from all other advertising players in the future because they have a lot more contextual data on users and because they get a lot more user eyeball time. To focus their social networking initiative around a single interest was a mistake. Apple should have launched a social initiative that encompassed all interests. It still can. Google+ showed the way.
* You can be “open” without losing control. Selective openness can be the key to success in social services. If you look at Facebook, that social network is open to all kinds of third party apps, most of which degrade the experience of using Facebook. And Facebook is closed, for the most part, to features that enable users to deliver their posts to users outside the realm of Facebook membership, a fact which also degrades the experience of using Facebook. Google+ as it is today, at least, flips this. I’m following nearly 5,000 people on Google+, and have yet to receive an app-generated spammy piece of nonsense. Yet I can share my posts with my mother, who’s never even heard of Google+.
* You don’t have to censor in order to have a tasteful product. Apple forces users to get apps only through the app store, then censors apps based on the company’s own values. By the way, Facebook does the same thing: Sexist cheesecake photos of women are OK on Facebook, but non-explicit photos of mothers nursing their babies are censored. Facebook’s frat-boy values dictate what’s allowed. Google+ has a better approach: Just give people the tools to censor their own incoming content as they wish. Google has tools un-follow, block and report users who post objectionable content. It’s clear from a bit of crowd-sourcing I did in preparation for this post that Google+ users feel respected by Google while on Google+, but many feel disrespected by Apple when they use Apple services like iTunes and the App store.
* You don’t have to coerce users all the time (forcing them to use iTunes to activate an iPad, forcing them to enter a password to download a free app, forcing them to enter a credit card before they can become users, forcing them to use only the carriers you have chosen for them, and so on.) You can be like Google+ and just be easygoing and inviting.
Any Google+ users out there? If so, what do YOU think Apple could learn from Google+? (And you can find my on Google+ here.)
219 responses to “What Apple Could Learn From Google+”
Google+ is great, but still pretty buggy, which is to be expected since it’s still in BETA. Apple obviously is learning something. Email accounts with from .me are free and so is iCloud.
-Chris
http://friendsofmac.net
Really keen to try and play! Any invites going?
graham[dot]stevens[at]mac.com
I sent you one. :-)
Ha! So did I. : )
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I would be disappointed if there wasn’t a room full of Apple employees poking and prodding G+, pealing away all of it’s layers.
I agree that Apple could learn from Google and become a bit more open. But, isn’t Apple’s control over their system what draws the general public to them? I know it drives most tech-forward people insane, but to my parents, it’s why they buy Apple. It’s simple, pathed, and they don’t have to worry about 3rd party junk that will degrade their experience.
would also love an invite if anyone has
nsthankiya[at]gmail.com
Could someone send me an invite? I’d be extremely greatful!
Jonny.Jarman [at] me [dot] com
:D
It’s a cliche concept, I know, but Apple often reminds me of the evil empire in Star Wars. I recall Princess Leia saying, “The more you tighten your grip, Tarkin, the more star systems
will slip through your fingers.” This could be translated to Apple who often seems to be trying to tighten their grip on their current and potential customers.
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Thanks Tom :)
Can I have an invite too?
[email protected]
get a gmail address and profile to really use G+
Done
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Thanks guys, much appreciated!
its not beta yet. It’s currently on the field test mode, or closed beta.
Any more invites?
chrisbarretto10[at]gmail.com
I’d really appreciate it.
Any more invites?
chrisbarretto10[at]gmail.com
I’d really appreciate it.
Mike, my kids have iTunes accounts, they use gift cards, no CC required.
And if any kind soul has an invite left, simpletee(at)me(dot)com would be gratefully received.
Cheers
Dave
Could i get an invite [email protected]
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Hey Emiel many thanks for that, just joined, cheers
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Can i get an invite?? much appreciated… vince.dike[at]gmail[dot]com
can someone invite me? [email protected]
I would like to see apple compete alright but G+ sounds amazing! Any more invites going?
conorfadden1(at)gmail(dot)com
Thanks in advance:)
Mike, great article thanks for the good saturday read… Ok, can i also hit someone up for an invite? barrynaude(at)gmail(dot)com
Can you send me an invite?
Kdog126(at)gmail.com
Can you send me an invite?
kdog126(at)Gmail.com
Sorry to add to the noise, but if anyone has an invite left I’d thoroughly appreciate it.
mpweave (at) gmail (dot) com
Can you send an invitation?
[email protected]
Can you send me an invite?
[email protected]
Can you send me an invite?
[email protected]
Can you send me an invite?
[email protected]
Are there still invites going around?
Could someone please send me one?
rx3[dot]alpha[at]gmail[dot]com
I’ve sent invites to everyone requesting one in this thread so far.. :)
I don’t think it’s so much about what Apple can learn from Google+ but rather what they can learn from Google period. Google+ is just the one product that is going to tie together all of the great products that Google has already put out there like Gmail, Docs and Reader among others.
Good article though, overall.Let’s connect: +Dallin Tippetts
I’d really like a Google+ invitation too!
Could anyone with an invite please one my way to
[email protected]
I hate to be one of ‘those people’ asking for one, but I’m really interested.
Thanks y’all!
Can somebody please invite me? [email protected]
Thanks.
sent one…
i use google + fore about a week …..it is great the design is clear you know how it works that is perfect ……
Of course, Apple should focus on the low-tech consumers because they’re the greatest number of users out there and if Apple doesn’t try to help them enjoy tech, what other company will. All the circle of friends and associates I know don’t give a rat’s ass about openness and who controls what. They just need a reliable and simple device and throw in some decent customer service and they’re more than satisfied. Apple wouldn’t have the loyalty it does if it didn’t provide good products and customer service.
ARE YOU HIGH wtf!!!
What does G+ have to do with apple. IN ANYWAY!!IT HAS WHITE SPACE AND ICONS (Which btw look NOTHING like apple icons). This post stinks of Bullshit…More apple fanbois trying to claim googles thunder.
can someone send me an invite – thanks in advance!
mforbus(at)gmail(dot)com
are there any more invites floating around?? If there are, can someone filck one to trevor.corbin[[at]gmail.com
Thanks
Thanks mate.
I’d like to get an Google+ invite: [email protected]
“from blogging and micro-blogging to chatting, texting and e-mail”
Yea, you couldn’t be saying they were competing with Facebook otherwise could you? To compete with someone you usually try to at least match their features.
“Google also took a page from the Apple playbook about entering late into
a market that’s mature, but seriously flawed, and succeeding in that
market by fixing what’s broken on the products of competitors.”
I’d say that is a bit early to say, right now Googles+ plus has what is it, two million? mostly male geeks as it userbase. The big question is still, will it have any chance to grab any of the normal people, you know, those who make up the most of Facebooks users.
Google+ plus is still in beta and on invite only basis, can’t say anything about it’s success yet.
As for Ping failng and Google succeeding, to be fair, this is Googles third attempt (I think) their earlier ones hardly did much better than ping did :p
Mike, DNA doesn’t spread itself out magically; it needs a very active process called copying. Memes (a playful variant of ‘gene’ and in itself intended to be a meme) must be copied too if they are to survive. And by the way, the process your referring to is called evolution, not ‘plant biology’ whatever that may mean. (Are you religious or trying not to offend religious people?)
Now as for your other points: the G+ icons look childish and don’t resemble Apples icons in any way, the G+ ‘service’ seems childish too and has some awful – badly copied Apple style – introductory videos, and G+ doesn’t solve the locked in problem all social networks have and e-mail doesn’t because you have to be approved by one ‘authority’ and cannot setup your own server, and – by the way – who wants to ‘follow people’, the whole concept behind that is unbelievable.
Further, Apple doesn’t force you to do anything, if you feel that way you shouldn’t use Apple products. And it isn’t true anymore – at least within a few weeks – that iTunes is required to activate an iPad. It’s also untrue that you have to enter a credit card number to be an Apple user, to get an Apple id or be on iTunes.
And Mike, don’t you see that Apples cloud service as a free gift to iPad, iPod and iPhone users is the answer to the social media, the i devices are a window to al kinds of social activity, no one excluded, Apple doesn’t need a ‘me too’ network per se, it only needs a superior device experience, and that it has.
J.
Great post! You summarize the biggest issues I have with Apple. They make great gadgets but have serious issious concerning user freedom.
please can anyone sent me an invite at iamcornelis(at)yahoo(dot)com
“More apple fanbois trying to claim googles thunder.”
FTW… No one is trying to steal anyones thunder… did you take the slightest look at the article?
The title is even “What Apple could learn from Google+”, did you see that part where it says “what apple could learn” and then “From google+”? How is that stealing thunder?
Im actually very underwhelmed by G+ because the design just sucks. It’s just a more noisy facebook. If Apple can learn one thing from G+ is to start from scratch.
G+ is only fun when your are a Google fan because 80% of the posts is all about G+, the other 20% are kittens so I really doubt Apple can learn something useful from G+
I’m still looking for the perfect SM service and G+ is not that service. For now it’s better called G-
Facebook/Google +
Facebook/Google+ should consider adding a dislike or -1 button, that would seriously increase user participation.
This article is missing a lot of important points:
– Apple is already having a social network: it’s user base, which are using App Store, iTunes, Face Time, Game Center, soon iMessage, iCloud. Now that Google dropped Twitter search it seems that Twitter will also be more connected to Apple.
– A lot of people seem to miss the reason why Facebook is so popular: it’s not a tool to send messages to hand-crafted friend groups or circles, it’s a place where people can find new friends, advertise yourself, getting rid of boredom. My biggest problem with Facebook is that privacy is not seen as important as it should be, but I am not confident that Google is any better in this regard.
inviite meee pleaseee …. [email protected]
am I the only one who thinks the design is the worst feature of G+ ?
and there’s nothing Apple-like about it! :)
hey! can someone send me an invite as well?
[email protected]
thanks!
A Google + invite would be greatly appreciated!
msprygada at gmail.com
Thanks in advance.
Agreed. Thanks for replying. We can’t forget how loyal their fan base is because of good products and customer service.
Elgan spent years on the PC side praising Windows and criticizing Apple. After belatedly realizing that the winds have changed in Apple’s favor he has now tried to reinvent himself as a Mac blogger, but he still has no clue what Apple is all about, even when he’s praising them.
Google+ is infinitely better than Facebook (in concept if not in market viability) but Elgan’s characterization of Google+ iconography as “Apple-like” and his suggestion that Apple should create their own social network speak volumes.
Google has come up with some good ideas here and there but I see no evidence of their ability to seamlessly tie them together in an elegant and consistent manner. In some ways Google’s approach is the exact opposite of Apple’s.
While Apple is all about razor sharp focus, Google is all about throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. They have no focus, no unifying vision, no consistency, no ability to make complex things simple, and certainly no taste in UI design.
More importantly, though, these two companies differ in who they view as their customer. Apple targets consumers while Google targets advertisers. Ultimately Apple wants to delight consumers while Google wants to satisfy advertisers. This has an enormous effect in a company’s products.
Their design is nothing like Apple, but in fairness, it’s infinitely better than Facebook’s, which is what matters most here. Nothing would make me happier than seeing this ultimately killing FB, unlikely though that may be.
Facebook is to social networking what carriers and cell phone manufacturers were to mobile before Apple stepped in. They’re terrible but they’re the only game in town.
Their design is infinitely better than Facebook’s and so is their attitude towards privacy.
Anxious to try it out. Can someone send an invite to [email protected]? Thanks.
i sent u one:)
More like 10 million I believe
As a former Apple employee I agree with you. One of Apple’s 5 secrets (outlined in my free ebook here: http://www.MarketingApple.com ) is “Never be first to market” Apple has long innovated in other sandboxes after watching what ills people about technology and removing that pain. In many ways Google is big enough – and employs a culture that welcomes employees to take risks – that they can make a bunch of mistakes (Buzz, Wave, etc) and learn as they go. Bravo!
I would thoroughly enjoy receiving an invite:
loveradiatingentity gmail.com
Could you send one to [email protected]? Thanks :)
i’d like an invite, please. thanks! [email protected]
Hi, Could you send an invite to me too [email protected]?
Thanks!
Can you send me an invite please?
vgstoica(at)gmail.com
Can I have a invite? [email protected]
Thanks
Can you send an invitation?
[email protected]. Thanks.
Can you send an invitation?
[email protected]. Thanks.
I would love an invite to Google+ too :)
[email protected]
Nice info and great style
http://www.iphoneleaks.net/
Well put!
Mr. Elgan, any rebuttal?
Man, your on fire.
Mike, I invite you to reply.
J.
Sorry Mike, I didn’t read the entire post because you lost all credibility for me with the statement, “When Apple announced its entry into the handset market in 2007, I thought it was too late for them to catch up to the dominant players, including Nokia, Palm, RIM and others.” Too late for them to catch up? I knew when apple came out with the first iPod that is was only a matter of time before they would blend everything we all did or wanted to do and put it on a device that we could carry in our pocket. So, when rumors started about the iPhone I knew, as most Apple fans knew, that this would be a game-changer in the industry. The same for the iPad. There were and are doubters, but the true Apple fans knew that this device would change everything and it has. The proof is in sales alone much less the vision that thousands of people have for what they want to do with it.
Any more invites? Would love one as well…
gmmattson (at) gmail.com
Much appreciated…
Remember e-World? Adapt that to today’s social site meme. It was a delightful concept – a central community center with different community activities around the edge – work, family, play, … Kinda an early concept like Google circles.
I thought Google locked users with invites at the moment? If they haven’t though, mind passing one to me as well? Thanks. Email: [email protected]
But isn’t that exactly what is happening to MSFT? The more they emphasize how great and ubiquitous Windows is, the more people turns into other OSs; including OS X, of course.
Orkut did extraordinarily well, but only in Brasil and India…
could you send me an invite? [email protected]
Thanks!
Could you send me an invite? [email protected]
Thanks!
I would LOVE a G+ invite if anyone still has one…PLEASE!!
[email protected]
Your posts are interesting . You are missing one point . google can give away a lot, because … well, because one way or another not finding something you will google
Success comes from mathematics
At Apple success comes from friendlyness , very good eye catching design in every product. I guess you are working on a Mac , and for years you appreciate Apple’s efforts to make good products. that explains why you want to help and give Apple ideas. Apple will never have a search engine.Google search engine is best and will improve +1 is independent from social network and will give a push to using more Google search .
Google Android and korean mobiles really piss off Apple , so now it must defend itself legally
point is Apple may read you but chances are will ignore advices
Good article. From what I’ve read, Google+ addresses the shortcomings that my college attending kids have expressed with Facebook. I would sure like an invite! [email protected]
Heyy can anyone invite me please, this looks amazing and i would love to be part of it :P
[email protected]
J.,
DNA doesn’t spread itself out at all, certainly not by copying. Copying, which is actually called replication, merely creates more DNA; it won’t get that DNA to mix with the DNA of another plant two fields away. For that, the DNA needs outside help. In the case of corn, that usually involves wind. Most plants use insects. Some use hummingbirds. A crow could fly low enough to get some DNA on it, fly a short distance, and that DNA could fall off, and then BOOM, “DNA from the GMO strain… shows up in non-GMO corn in nearby fields” Hardly what I, or presumably Mr. Elgan, would call magic. Now I’m sure he could’ve gone into that, discussed biotic and abiotic pollination in great detail if he’d cared to, but it would’ve been completely beside the point. It was prudent of him, you see, not ignorant, to write “somehow” and then get on with it.
One meaning of biology is “The life processes of an organism or group.” So “plant biology” is simply the life processes of plants. Evolution is also related to what he’s talking about, but it’s no more or less correct than what he wrote.
“Meme” is actually a playful variant on “Mimesis” which means imitation. It was created as a way of explaining, and exploring, genetics. And as with a gene, copying a meme is no use without disseminating it. 10,000 copies of one photograph on my computer will not survive a hard drive crash, but get that photo onto 10,000 different computers and it will.
(At this point in your post, your grammer starts to go. That’s quite a sentence, that second paragraph of yours.)
In March of this year the BBC reported that there were over 200 million users on Twitter. Twitter uses the same “follow people” approach that Google+ uses. So to answer your question-mark-less question, 200 million people want to follow people. You’re right, though, they all must be stupid.
You do actually have to enter a credit card number to create an Apple ID, at least through the iTunes store. I know because I just did it right now. It’s the last step. Also, iCloud is more of a response to other cloud based services, like Dropbox, than it is to social networking.
Nice post though, overall.
Max.
can someone send me an invite please – thanks in advance!mforbus(at)gmail(dot)com
Hi, Could you send an invite to me too [email protected]?
I’d really like an invite!
beckeriemke@gmail@gmail:disqus
.com
Thanks!
Yes it’s 10 million, but still only 10 million + geeks majority male. I still question whether Google + will take off. My circle is basically my really good friends, that’s it. No else has joined, not my family, so it’s pretty boring at this point. The big job will be convincing the majority of people to switch over, otherwise it will just die out in a couple of years.
Max, you seem to have a very literal mind. DNA that ‘spreads itself out’ isn’t meant literally of course, and ‘it needs copying’ doesn’t mean that its the only thing thats needed (although essential). So your rather obvious explanation is maybe nice for yourself but unneeded in my case.
Could you point out to me where I stated that Mike is ignorant? I’am sure your not able to do that.
Your also to literal about the origin of the word ‘meme’, looking it up via Wikipedia doesn’t tell it all. Language history isn’t binary you know and I know so in this case.
200 million Twitter users, wow. I must be wrong about religion as well with a few billion believers.
Your opinion about Apples cloud service is noted, but doesn’t invalidate mine. In fact I think you should reread my remark and think about it.
You do not need a credit card number to create an Apple ID, I did so myself several times. I didn’t say that the iTunes store could be used without a credit card though. You should improve upon your reading skills.
As for your remarks about my grammar: maybe your as fluent in Dutch as I am in U.S. English.
Nice post though, overall.
J.
Unless they changed it from about a year ago… You can have an iTunes account without a credit card. I know this because, I have an iTunes account at work and I certainly didn’t use my work’s CC info to sign up.
Apple learnings from Google+?
…That no design whatsoever in the eyes of Windows PC people is seen as ‘clean design’……That subtly locking users to you, and then make profits by tracking their every move online is seen as “open”…
Apple learnings from Google+?
…That no design whatsoever in the eyes of Windows PC people is seen as ‘clean design’……That subtly locking users to you, and then make profits by tracking their every move online is seen as “open”…
iOS is a safe, paved and carefully guarded place where users can play safely knowing that they will be fine, as long as they follow the rules. Android, on the other hand, is a little more “wild west” (if the user wants to make it that way.) The user is put in the driver seat and told to steer. Because of these differences, they coexist, just like Windows and OSX, Twitter and Facebook, economy cars and pickup trucks. As much as it may seem like one has to die for the other to survive, that just isn’t the case. They appeal to select demographics who benefit from their inherit characteristics.
Such is the case with Google+, Twitter and Facebook. They aren’t going to kill each other because they serve different purposes. They will all coexist for the simple reason that they have certain utilities. Why do you think Myspace (however abandoned) lasted as long as it did? Because at one time, it offered specialized tools to musicians, making it a perfect way for them to reach their audience. It provided utility.
Max,
“(At this point in your post, your grammer starts to go. That’s quite a sentence, that second paragraph of yours.)”
Next time you pretentiously note someone’s grammar, at least spell the word right?
Apple wouldn’t have the loyalty it does if it didn’t provide good hype.