Kyle Wiens thinks the iPad should be banned. It’s a “highly immoral” product, he says, because it can’t be opened and repaired when the battery dies. It’s a throwaway device, and he wants governments to prohibit it.
“It’s not designed to be long-lasting,” said Wiens, who is the co-founder and CEO of iFixit. “It’s like selling a car that has to be replaced when the tires wear out.”
Wiens is the Bernie Sanders of the electronics industry. He doesn’t just want reform — he wants revolution!
Here’s why.
It’s all about e-waste. Talk to Wiens about electronic waste, and you’re likely to get an earful. He is, after all, a co-founder of iFixit, the second-biggest supplier of Apple parts after Apple itself. The company is best known for its popular teardowns and DIY fix-it guides. It has spawned a massive community dedicated to repairing devices rather than tossing them.
iFixit wants a revolution
Wiens is a crusader against e-waste, a topic that occupies a lot of his time and energy — and one we should all be concerned about.
He notes that e-waste is the fastest-growing waste stream in the world. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, of the hundreds of millions of tons of new electronics produced every year, only about a quarter get recycled by the end of their life. That’s millions of tons of electronics, comprised of numerous hazardous materials, that — rather than being properly disposed of — find their way into contaminated landfills around the world, mostly to the shores of the developing world.
“Nobody throws away a 5-year-old car because they broke the windshield, but that’s absolutely what we do with phones,” says Wiens. “People will just landfill or throw them away, because it costs more to recycle it correctly.”
One of the best ways to stop this trend from getting worse is for consumers to make a habit of repairing their own electronics. If consumers were empowered to repair their devices instead of tossing them out when they break or become obsolete, the e-waste stream could be largely cut off at its source.
Teaching everybody how to fix everything is iFixit’s mission, but unfortunately it’s not necessarily a goal shared by the companies that produce our devices.
“We want to transition the world to a place where the assumption is that everything can be repaired,” Wiens says. “How can we catalyze a repair and service economy rather than a manufacturing economy?”
iPad is the ‘worst’
That manufacturing economy is one we’re all quite familiar with. Every few months our shiny new phones, computers, TVs, etc., are made obsolete, and we’re back to enviously eyeing the new ones. Smartphones alone illustrate the problem — well over a billion are manufactured each year, so with 7 billion people on the planet we should be in a position for everyone on Earth to have one.
If, instead of buying into the constant stream of new products, consumers were able to keep their phones running when a battery died or a component fizzled out, companies wouldn’t have a reason to constantly pump new devices into the market. Thing is, manufacturers very rarely offer instructions for repairing or even recycling their devices. Why is that?
“There are lots and lots of reasons, but it boils down to they don’t want anybody to tell them what they need to do,” Wiens says. “They want to do it on their own and the free market has to decide. And the free market is not penalizing manufacturers that are making un-recyclable products.”
It’s easy enough to see why tech companies are averse to the public stretching the lifespans of their products. They’ll simply make more money if they’re free to design as they see fit, and can continue expecting to sell devices at the same pace they produce them.
The designer Dieter Rams of Braun famously said that good design is long lasting. But according to Wiens, Apple has completely thrown that design principle out the window.
“I think that’s a very conscious decision,” Wiens says. “The old iMac was a phenomenal design. The design team is capable of doing that, but they’ve made a busines decision not to do it.”
Wiens notes that the iPhone is very serviceable. It’s a good design, he says, because it’s easy to change the battery and screen. But the iPad is the opposite. It can’t be fixed when the sealed-in battery fails after about 300 1,000 cycles.
“The iPad is far and away the worst,” he says. “Environmental leaders are very concerned about tablets, because they’re designed to be tossed rather than repaired like laptops.” Wiens has been working to get talking to German officials who had considered banning the product in Germany — one of Apple’s biggest markets in the EU.*
“Officials I’ve met with are concerned,” he says.
The right to repair
That’s why one of Wiens’ major efforts focuses on right-to-repair legislation for electronics similar to what already exists for automobiles. This would make it a requirement that manufacturers share repair and diagnostic information, and use components that can be adjusted with common tools by consumers and repair shops.
“There are laws that require the car manufacturers share information with the local independent car repair shops,” Wiens says. “So we need laws like that in the electronics sphere.”
Legislation that requires proper handling of hazardous materials in things like CRT monitors — which can contain as much as 10 pounds of lead — are a step in the right direction. But for repair or recycling operations to be economically viable, the value of repairing or recycling a device must surpass the cost of pulling it apart.
“Recycling is a business, and isn’t generally subsidized, so the question is how much time and labor does it take you — it’s just a cost equation,” Wiens says. “There might be 50 cents of material value in an Apple Watch, but it’s going to be more than 50 cents’ worth of time to get it open.”
FairPhone in Europe and Apple’s new leasing program suggest that the message is getting across, and businesses are perhaps leaning into an economic model that takes into account the inherent value of what they’re building rather than just what they can sell it for.
Until these regulations become standard and universal, it’s up to consumers to take responsibility for the electronics they buy, whether to keep them running as long as they can or to ensure they’re properly disposed of at the end of their useful lifespan. That’s why Cult of Mac is partnering with MyPhones Unlimited, a company based out of Arkansas that recycles phones and computers.
By sending in your old devices, you get money back and ensure that anything that can be salvaged will stay in service while staying out of landfills.
“Any time that these devices have value and someone is paying for them, that means that someone is going to be reselling it in some market, and that’s a very good thing,” says Wiens.
*Correction: Wiens says he has been working with European and German officials, who have considered banning the iPad over it’s problems with recycling. However, Wiens say he doesn’t advocate an outright ban.
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35 responses to “Meet the radical who wants the iPad banned!”
Right, that’s why every iPad I’ve ever owned is either still in the family or sent to Gazelle for refurbishment and resale. This iFixit guy is a total idiot. People don’t throw out iPhones and iPads, they hand them down the line or get money back for them where professional services refurbish and and resell them.
If you want something that’s repairable, go buy something else and stop trying to stifle innovation by misunderstanding the entire concept of Apple products. They hold their value, they are refurbished and resold over and over again down the demand chain, and unlike Android and PCs, are very rarely thrown away.
Exactly. You don’t throw Apple products away, you hand them down or sell them on eBay (otherwise known as recycling).
So… he wants a change that benefits his industry and his business. What a surprise. Apple wants to do the same, just like other companies. The only part I agree with is that companies should make it easier and more apparent how to properly dispose of devices.
Seems like he is still upset Apple took away their dev privileges from opening up the early issue Apple TV. They do realize that they are only a name because of apple products, right?
What a load of rubbish. You can take an iPad with a dead battery into an Apple store, pay the cost of a new battery and get a whole replacement iPad. Then your old one goes back to the factory, gets it’s battery replaced and becomes a new replacement. No waste. You just haven’t had the opportunity to put in a £4 knock of eBay battery. Diddums
For the battery to be replaceable in all our modern electronics, they would need to be double the thickness and weight to accommodate removable panels, screws etc. There are far fewer people willing to trade off weight and thickness for self repair-ability, than those who want thin and light devices they can get fixed by the manufacturer.
The reality is that most people don’t self-repair even if they had the option.
…or extend RAM….
I replaced a DVD drive in an old iMac and I used iFixIt, and what got me upset is the teardown for the unit they had was different than the model unit that i had and they didn’t say anything about there being several different models, which there was, nor was the suggested DVD drive was the correct model. It took me a long time to fix it, and it took longer to figure out that the DVD they recommended was incorrect to begin with. Hence, my rating of the quality of what iFixIt does isn’t all that great. I actually spent about the same amount to fix it myself than to have Apple do it. With iPads? I’ll just get Apple to replace the battery, it’s not that expensive.
I’m pretty sure he’s not butt-hurt because Apple wont send him more pre-launched products. For sure. #YouMadBro
This is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black. They buy these devices just to destroy them them monetize on helping people fix them. He says that they need to be regulated like the car industry and have common tools for the everyday man to work on the devices. BS car makers are making it harder and harder to do mundane repairs yourself. To even replace a headlight bulb it requires taking off the front bumper on most new vehicles. This is how manufacturers want it, they want you to come to them for repairs. Same with Apple they want you to come to them for repairs. Just like one of the other posters said Apple devices are either handed down or resold unlike the Andriod market. He needs to get off his high horse and stop being upset that they can’t make any money on the repairs of and iPad. Of course Apple would want that business.
Like a HP calculator post 1993. Glued together. You can replace the three battery-cells (LR44?) but thats it.
Is he mad about that too?
He’s mad about any computer product he can’t figure out how to make money at, that’s iFixIt’s entire premise for existing.
The problem is that the industry made us think that anyone can fix a computer, when the reality is that computer form factors are changing and it’s much more difficult to have the user replace things inside due to most components being surface mount, they use very small and delicate connectors, screws, etc. and if the product is designed for no user repairability, then respect it OR buy something else. The ONLY complaint I have is that Apple doesn’t offer more than a 2 year AppleCare service contract. I think they should offer 2, 3, and even 4 years on their products. I’ve had my iPad 4 for about 3 years now and it’s holding up just fine and I only had it replaced once due to a hairline crack in the screen, but Apple replaced it without a single penny given to them, even though I was prepared and willing to pay the minimum payment under the AppleCare contract, I’m sure that’s partly why the battery in my unit is still working just fine, either way, I always recommend buying AppleCare as it does come in handy when you least expect it.
agree.
Under what rock did they find this dude? I’m certain Apple will repair iPads and/or sell them as refurbished. There are some really serious problems in this world and he’s worrying about iPads as being some ecological disaster. Wall Street wants companies to have yearly upgrade cycles of new devices. Why doesn’t he go after those fools.
when a computer is designed, they aren’t required to have it designed to suit the needs of iFixit, which is in business to make people THINK they are qualified service technicians when they really aren’t. If it doesn’t have user serviceability, then it’s not designed for the user to crack the thing open and perform their own servicing.
If my TV goes bad, it doesn’t mean that I, the user, necessarily has the right or skill set to fix the TV. Same thing with a car or many products we purchase.
I have a problem with iFixIt in trying to make people THINK they are “Certified Apple” technicians qualified to fix an Apple computer. iFixIt should be putting a caveat on their own website telling people that what they are doing may cause damage to the product, may violate the warranty of the product and that’s it’s always suggested that the product be services by a trained/qualified Apple Certified technician with genuine Apple replacement parts.
I would like Apple to maybe offer a 3 year AppleCare Service contract in addition to the 2 year service contract, since some people will use these products for as much as 3 years.
Short version: locked-down devices hurt his business model. Poor baby.
Even shorter version:
Kyle got banned by Apple and now out to crucify them.
How altruistic of a guy who has made his money running a company that fixes tech.
AND SO IT SHOWS.
What “revolution” is it you think this guy is championing? His bitterness is clearly showing through after Apple dressed them down and banned their dev account them when they broke new Apple TV 4 apart and their agreement.
Still bitter Kyle?
Oh come on, man. Even if the batteries were easily user-replaceable, most people aren’t going to fucking bother. The vast majority of technology these days is inherently disposable, not because of how they’re built, but because new technologies render old technology obsolete. I don’t think there’s any room in technology for someone claiming that progress is inherently immoral.
people replace their iphones in every year, and throw shitty unbranded android devices away, and the ipad is guilty when we repair a lot of ipad2-s every day, because they still want to use it?
I agree with the many comments here that this is a self serving position by the iFixit leader. The better solution may be what we have here in Canada, mandatory fees when you purchase new electronics that pay for the cost of recycling old electronics.
If you can get some money out of your old, broken, obsolete gear you should, but if that’s just not possible then you can take your electronic equipment to a local depot where it will be recycled in an environmentally safe way for free.
For my experience, I sold my 1st Gen iPad when the iPad 3 was announced for $500 (Cellular, 64gb) and I still have that 3rd gen unit. My wife upgraded from her 3rd gen to an iPad Air, but we gave her 3rd gen to our daughter.
I’ve sold or traded in every mobile phone I’ve had since the ‘smartphone’ era.
I don’t know what other people are doing, but it’s crazy not to reuse, sell or recycle your gear. Its not difficult.
I’m still using my original iPad (2010 first gen) but the iOS version is still stuck at v5 … these mobile devices outlive their usefulness when it comes to advancements in hardware and software … do I care if I can’t replace the battery? Heck no … I’ll ‘recycle’ it when it does die … not “throw it away’ when the battery does give up the ghost … meanwhile it’s a great Netflix option on my nightstand and an option for the grandkids to enjoy when they visit so they keep their grubby paws off my iPad Air 2 … ;-)
This. Apple goes out of their way to build devices with longevity. They build them to last and offer multiple upgrades to the software. My old iPad 2 was released with iOS 4 and it’s compatible with iOS 9. That’s five upgrade cycles!
This guy’s just ticked off because he got caught breaking the rules. If he really cared about this cause he’d go after TV makers. They’re the least repairable devices ever.
Yep … I’m still rocking a iPhone 4s … sure it’s slow, but it works quite well … can’t do some of the bells and whistles that the iPhone 6s can do … but it works very well. When I do retire it … I’ll keep it as an iPod-like device so I can still utilize it as a secondary video cam B-roll on multi-cam setups and as a secondary audio recorder with a Rode SmartLav … further recycling … not ‘throw away’ …
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I have the original iPad I got on day 1, it still only loses about 10% battery when watching 2 hr on netflix connected to a projector. It has been cycled about 1500 times.
I like how the byline is “staff writer” because no one at CoM wants to catch the heat for spreading iFixit’s BS.
Still have all the iPads I ever bought, about 8 I think. They all still work. I have three of them hooked up to my music studio
The bigger problem here is that there is no way for Apple or other manufacturers to stop pumping out new products every year. Technology evolves rapidly and if one manufacturer x took a break for a few years, the competition would put out products several times stronger than x’ products, making them irrelevant. And thanks to this rapid innovation, the main reason people buy new iPads isn’t because the hardware stops working (all my old devices work just fine), it’s just that all other hardware now works literally a hundred times better and software follows the newest hardware, making the old hardware obsolete in comparison. If Apple wanted reduce “e-waste”, then making their devices more reparable would certainly help, but I think they could make some software changes as well. They could for example make two separate versions of iOS 10; one barebones version that focuses on maximising performance on older devices and one “normal” version for newer devices. They would of course have to give developers an incentive to make dumbed down versions off their apps for the older devices. Not only would this make old devices usable again, it would also let Apple make iOS 10 as good as it can get without having to make compromises to get it running on old devices. It’s a win-win situation. (Man, I really hope iOS 10 is a major update with new devices in mind. They could even stylise it as iOS X, think about that for a moment!)
They could also put up recycling stations in Apple stores, maybe offering a small bonus if you recycle a functional device or give you a better price on a new iPhone if you bring your old one when you buy it.
I’m all for having devices be more repairable. There will always be those who won’t bother, and those will try to fix ’em. I bought a broken Galaxy S5 for my ex wife and fixed it for all of about $20 (new screen) and gave it to her to replace her old and busted up iPhone 4S that was too old to bother repairing. It still worked well enough so she gave it to our daughter to use as an iPod.
This guy certainly missed the toilet on this, and I mean by calling out Apple only.
While I agree with a lot of what he said, just how does he propose convincing Apple or any other oem’s to basically stop making money? I mean I’m all for it if he has a plan until then he’s just flapping his gums.
Unless this is his covert way of endorsing project ara.)
So he just got band as an Apple Developer partner for violating his agreement with Apple. And, may we assume he is not the least bit bitter?
This place isn’t called Cult of Mac for nothing… so many posts ignoring his message in defense of a company that could give two shits about you. I love my Macs/idevices, but he is right they need to be built so the USER can fix/replace more things.
It’s unfortunate that Apple, known for its innovation, is so behind the times when it comes to recycling and responsible manufacturing. An objective analysis of Apple’s record shows that it is pretty bad when it comes to repairability and recycling. Granted, other manufacturers are about as bad, but it makes sense to make very profitable Apple adhere to higher standards.
The Fairphone project, mentioned in the article, shows the way. They are pioneering ways to ensure that the minerals in smartphones are from non-conflict areas. They are trying to improve conditions in the manufacturing facilities in China. And finally, they have made their latest model harm-resistant and incredibly easy to repair. And all of this with about three dozen people.
There is no excuse for Apple not to do the same. If enough people ask for it, they will.
That’s crazy. Apple have a great refurbishment policy. In fact, almost every device I’ve ever owned has been bought as a refurb! When you get your device repaired at Apple, they give you a new one, repair the broken one and sell it or give it to someone as a replacement. Simple. Also, there is a huge marketplace for Apple products on places such as eBay and Amazon. Want to help the environment? Buy a refurb. You save money and the environment!