How to run Windows 10 on your Mac for free

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Because you can. Photo: Rob LeFebvre/Cult of Mac
Because you can. Photo: Rob LeFebvre/Cult of Mac

One of the selling points of a Mac these days is the ability to run Windows software on it, via virtualization or Apple’s own Boot Camp. Running Windows lets you play PC games that haven’t been ported to the Mac, or stay completely compatible with your documents from a PC-centric workplace.

Virtualization software like Parallels or VMWare Fusion (two of the best apps to run Windows software on your Mac without partitioning your hard drive for Boot Camp) isn’t free, though these applications do allow you to try before you buy. Windows 8.1, the current version of Microsoft’s operating system, will run you about $120 for a plain-jane version.

You can run the next-gen OS from Microsoft (Windows 10) on your Mac using virtualization for free, however. We took a quick run at doing just that, as originally sussed out by the fantastic folks over at iMore.

Grab that virtual box

virtuabox manager

We’re going to use a free, open source bit of emulation software called VirtualBox, from Oracle. It’s pretty robust and works almost as well as the more costly solutions like Parallels or VMWare Fusion, so you can get a taste of things without having to bust out the credit card.

Head on over to the VirtualBox webpage, and click on the Download link over to the left. You’ll want to choose the latest VirtualBox version (4.3.20 as of this writing) for OS X hosts x86/amd64. Once downloaded, you can launch and install the app, which will get you ready to roll with Windows 10.

Get Windows 10 for free

To get a free, legal copy of Windows 10 Technical Preview, you’ll need to sign up with your Microsoft account (or create one in the process) for the Windows Insider Program. The process takes a couple of minutes, and it’s free as well.

Once you’ve signed up, you’ll be able to download an ISO file that acts just like an inserted install disk. You’ll want to download the 64 bit version of file in the language you want Windows to run in. The instructions at the Technical Preview page tell you to move the file to a USB drive and then install from there, but you don’t need to–I installed it just fine from the file on my Mac’s hard drive.

Now you’ll want to launch VirtualBox. Click on the blue New star button at the top, and click through the default settings. You’ll first give the newly created virtual environment a name and choose the Windows Type and then Windows 8.1 (64 bit) from the two drop-down menus. Name it something clever, like “Windows 10” if you like.

Install the virtual disk on the virtual hard drive

memory size

Next you’ll need to choose the size of your virtual hard drive. I left this at the default 2 GB setting, but you can increase it by moving the little slider to the right. Avoid a size that hits in the yellow or red zone, or you may have issues with running both OS X and Windows at the same time.

Allow VirtualBox to create a virtual hard drive using the default setting. Simply click on Create, then let it make a VirtualBox Disk Image, or VDI, on the next screen. I let it create a dynamically allocated hard drive, since that was the default option, as well. Give your new hard drive image a name (VirtualBox will choose the name you gave the environment in the first place – it’s ok to let this stand), and then find a size that fits well on your hard drive. I left it at the default 25 GB setting, and then clicked on Create.

You’ll now have a virtual environment to install Windows onto. Click the green Start arrow, and then click on the little folder icon to choose the ISO you downloaded from Microsoft above. You’ll have an option to Capture your mouse within the environment, and then you’ll find out that your host OS (OS X) allows for mouse pointer integration. Just click on the Continue buttons here.

Rock the Windows install

choose the second option

After you click Next on the Windows Setup window, you’ll need to click Install Now and then accept the license terms. If you didn’t move the ISO to a USB drive, choose the second option when asked what kind of installation you want: Custom Install. Click Next when you see the Disk 0 Unallocated Space screen, and then click through the rest of the Windows installation prompts.

As soon as all the Windows installation fooferah finishes up, you’ll be running Windows 10 on your Mac. You can hit Command-F to go full screen and trick anyone into thinking you’re running a Windows machine (except your Macbook looks way better than most PCs). You can now install Steam or other PC games, or just mess around with the new OS. Enjoy!

Via: iMore

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  • Ricardo Campelo de Magalhaes

    Can I install an older version, like Windows XP?

    • Windlasher

      YES

    • Why? Windows 7 is the oldest version of Windows that you should be running if you want to have at least the illusion of security.

      • Windlasher

        This is correct but, I just assumed that he is trying to out. Everyone has XP around. I would not buy 7 unless you really need it.

        Windows 7 is still a hundred bucks even though its on its way out.

        If you have XP and just want to run 1 or two programs I say use the copy of XP you already have.

      • CelestialTerrestrial

        XP isn’t supported and there are no security updates being released from Microsoft, so it would be kind of stupid to run XP. Just run 7 and pay the money and don’t be like those silly Hackintosh users installing OS’s illegally.

      • Windlasher

        Wow – There you have it folks. 3 opinions. Please chose the one that works best for you.

        So one guys says wait until 10 comes out.

        You say pay the Hundo and buy 7 even though its already EOL and then you can pay another hundred to upgrade to 8 or 10 in a few months.

        I say if you have XP and you just want to run windows for an app or two or just to load steam and play games, why not use XP. it will run steam just fine without any additional updates.

        See what I did there?I listed all three VALID options and I did so without calling anyone stupid or silly.

        Imagine that.

      • kevin bennett

        Windows 7 is NOT End Of Life, quit spreading FUD. The EOL of Win 7 is Apr 2020.

      • Windlasher

        YEAH Right: If you are going to explain something explain all of it not just your distorted point of view.

        According to Microsoft – Windows 7 moves into extended report on Jan 15th, 2015. This means security updates ONLY. No further code changes, improvements, feature fixes. If something doesn’t work before that and isn’t fixed by then, it never will unless it is a major security flaw.

        So No, its not technically EOL but it might as well be.

        MY point still stands.

        If you only need to run 1 or 2 programs or play games on bootcamp, why spent $100 for Windows 7 when the copy of XP you have will do just fine.

        If you are going to BUY an OS to screw around with or just because you are curious, buy 8.1 or wait until 10 comes out.

        YES: 7 is better. Is it worth spending $100 to use 5 minutes a day or play games on when 10 will be out in a few months, NO IT IS NOT.

      • John Foote

        You’re new to this internet thing. Or from Canada.

      • Windlasher

        Did I miss the /s ?

      • John Foote

        yes,

      • Windlasher

        Ah – I see now – I just woke up so was a bit foggy – My Bad.

        But this reminds me of those Android vs iPhone threads. People get so touchy if you even mention a competing OS when the truth is no one cares what phone they chose to buy. I’m actually thinking of trying to install MINT just to see if it can be done and to see what its like. I guess Im just that curious.

        MY apologies to KB: AND WHATS WRONG WITH CANADA Eh? :-)

      • John Foote

        Nothing wrong with being Canadian. They are often noted for their exceptional politeness. Have fun with mint. About every 6 months, I install Linux on and old laptop just for soemting to do…..

  • Windlasher

    FYI:

    I followed this a while back- I tried running it in a virtual machine and while it works, bit was a but sludgy. I then made a partition using boot camp and installed it and it works great.

    Windows 10 actually (forgive me father for saying this) actually looks pretty cool and it seems to work well so far. It’s worth checking out.

    • Khristyjeff

      Hi Windlasher, did you install windows using boot camp without the virtual machine?

      • Windlasher

        Yes. I used parallels desktop 10 at first but I wasn’t happy with the performance so I just did a raw install on a new partition using boot camp.

        Windows actually runs pretty sweet on a mac. Im also running windows 7 on my mac pro using boot camp and it out performs my PC by quite a bit. When I need to replace my desktop PC and I am going to replace it with an iMac and install Windows on it.

      • Khristyjeff

        Thanks. I have a windows only program I want to try for my business so this sounds like an inexpensive way to try it out. Have never “crossed over” like this before so am a little nervous. If I run into too many glitches I guess I can always remove it. Thanks again.

      • Windlasher

        Just a caveat. If you are installing on a machine with more than ONE drive Windows will complain during the install about there being no drive if the one you are installing on isn’t in the first slot.

        For instance, my Mac Pro (Big Silver Thing) has 4 drives in it and I was using 1 of the drives to install bootcamp and windows and it wouldn’t install. The Mac sees them as drives 0, 1, 2, 3.

        I opened up the machine and moved the one I was installing on to slot 0 and the one that was in slot 0 to slot 3 and re-booted and it installed fine.

        You may not have this issue but I thought I would post it here in case someone else might need to know.

      • Khristyjeff

        Good to know. I have an iMac with an external drive for backing up. I’m guessing that should work ok? Side note, I also have a “big silver thing.” Mine is pre-intel. Was always disappointed that they were so big. Looked more like (size-wise) IBM or other PC maker would sell.

  • Todd

    Would I then need to install anti-virus/anti-malware then? I’ve never used a windows machine, ever. I’ve been using macs since 1990. I’d like to install steam and windows only games. I already use steam on my Mac though. It seems like using boot camp is the way to go, is this correct? Would there be driver issues with Win10? I would assume yes, what then?

    • Windlasher

      YES, you need an AV program: Windows on a mac is still windows. Grab one of the free AV programs. I have not had any driver issues. Bootcamp works because Apple has modified all of the drivers to work with mac for you. When you install bootcamp, the first thing it does is download all of the updated drivers for your machine and install them for you.

      It’s another one of the great things about Mac is that there aren’t a gazillion video / network / USB / etc, cards out there so compatibility is USUALLY pretty easy.

      I have seen no driver issues so far, but there could be so don’t hold me to it.

      • CDJay

        Windows 10 comes with anti virus software which is low impact, with automatic (near) daily definition updates. I wouldn’t really see why anyone would pick this exact moment to install Windows 10 given that the Consumer Preview is just over 2 weeks away and will be considerably fuller featured.

      • Windlasher

        Yes – but will it be FREE?

      • CelestialTerrestrial

        What’s so good about Free version of Windows? I wouldn’t install Windows that isn’t stable on my Mac, EVER. If you want to run Windows 10 on your Mac, wait until after SP 1 has been released and don’t waste your time. Microsoft is known to be unstable until at LEAST one SP after any major release.

      • Windlasher

        I was going to say curiosity which was what I thought the article was about . You could also instal Linux. But hey, You win. Everything you know about computers trumps my limited knowledge. I bow to your godlike technical opinions and acknowledge that you have considered every possible scenario and thus we are all morons. Thank you for straightening us all out. Have a great New Year.

    • Shobin Drogan

      You dont need an anti virus so long you dont turn off your firewall or windows defender which is usually set on by default. You’re google chrome or internet explorer will stop virus from the internet and so long you dont plug in an infected usb drive with virus you will be fine. So far using windows for nearly all my life and i hadnt had a virus problem. If you are truly worried just install Avast.

  • We need to correct something at the beginning of this story. Parallels and VMware don’t “emulate”. They virtualize the guest operating systems. They’re a big difference between the two. Since Macs have Intel processors, there is no need for emulation. The guest OS can leverage the processor directly.

  • Paul Lloyd Johnson

    Yuck. I’d rather piss on my Mac than install windows on it.

    • Windlasher

      Good luck with that.

      • Paul Lloyd Johnson

        Well, I’ll do neither.

    • art hackett

      Same thing, though it can be useful to remind you what you’re missing ;-)

      • Paul Lloyd Johnson

        Not missing anything!

  • --

    Why buy a Mac and install windows?, stupidest thing to do ever…

    • Windlasher

      Because if you need a pc – its an alternative to buying an actual PC, or to buying a mac and a PC. Why buy 2 when 1 will do just as well. Think of how many forums you could troll just to insult people with 2 operating systems available to you?

    • CelestialTerrestrial

      There aren’t too many valid reasons to do so, but there are a few valid reasons.

      1. They are developers with limited financial resources to buy 2 computers, so they buy one and load both OS’s because they develop for both platforms.
      2. They want to run Windows games.
      3. For the off chance they need to run a Windows only app that doesn’t exist on a Mac.
      4. They’re an IT support person that supports both Macs and PCs and they only have/want one computer.

      Other than those three reasons, there really is no need to run 2 OS’s on a computer.

    • caseyctg

      I build websites. I find it useful to be able to have different vm’s to test software and website design. I’m also a designer who loves mac, but works in a windows heavy environment. Installing windows through a vm allows me more flexibility. I also have a linux desktop I use on my mac. Once you’ve become accustomed to using all 3 operating systems you find things you love about all of them. I also like to test new version’s of OS’s to see if I like it before paying for the upgrade. There are many uses for this.

      Let’s say I’m on my mac but need to run Visual Studio. Why limit yourself?

      • Windlasher

        Exactly. I run into web sites all the time that ‘require” IE and were more than likely never tested on Safari. A quick reboot and developers could test it out without buying two machines, etc.

        Always love these people who can’t see the forest for the trees.

  • bregalad

    I read that Windows 10 Technical Preview contains a key logger to record every keystroke and send that data to Microsoft. You’d have to pay me an enormous amount of money to use an OS with built-in spyware.

    • Windlasher

      I seriously doubt that. The justice department would be all over that.

      • bregalad
      • Windlasher

        OK- but as one user there stated:

        “This is a development version, therefore I would expect it to include software that is specifically aimed at helping MS to further the development of Win 10. Why anyone would be surprised it’s there is beyond me.If you install development (beta) software, you really must read the small-print. It’s in development phase, therefore you must not expect a fully fledged piece of software that’s there purely for your own personal use without any provision for providing feedback to the writer, what would be the point of that from the developers perspective?If you want software for your own use, with EULA’s that mean it’s for personal use only without developer interaction/ feedback, then buy release software, don’t use beta…. ”

        I installed the Preview to see what it was like. Its actually kind cool looking and even at this state seems to work well.

        I use 7 on a different disk under bootcamp for my actual work.

        Im reconfiguring my actual PC to give to the kids for gaming. I cannot wait to free up the desk space.

    • SuperMatt

      Spotlight in OS X Yosemite also has a “key logger” that sends info to Apple (kind of), but you can disable it. When you go into system preferences, go to spotlight, then click the button at the bottom that says “about spotlight suggestions & privacy” and it will explain how it works and how to turn it off.

  • Todd

    Can I blow the windows boot camp partition away if I don’t want it anymore?

    • Windlasher

      Yes. Run bootcamp again and it will give you the option to remove the windows partition and restore the original mac partition.

  • The Pool Man

    I’ve been all about VirtualBox software these last two months and has this lifelong Mac User had an eye opening experience. Fellow iFans: please read on because this will make you very happy. And it’s not going where you think.

    Since 1986 I’ve enjoyed avoiding Windows entirely. There were many reasons I did so, but the most basic one was that the OS was simply unacceptable. It always has been inferior to OS X and — including Windows 10 — continues to be inferior.

    How do I know this? Two months ago I took the advice of this post. I tried the Win10 in VBox. Not just because I was curious but my wife was forcing me to buy our first PC ever. She had a Windows only garment industry CAD program and I could avoid Windows no longer.

    So I tried Windows 10. One word: MEH. It’s not that Windows does things different. I can adapt to that. It’s that why use an OS that looks 7 years behind Mac OS X — that desperately requires virus and malware protection?

    By seven years behind, watch Redmond only now trying to figure out how to do Spaces. Look at any web browser on Windows. The webpages STILL look dot matrix — a rendering issue Apple dispensed with back in 2001. That’s not seven years behind. More like twice that.

    By desperatly requiring virus and malware protection, you’ll hear PC sheep tell you, “Aww… it’s not SO bad… I mean, as long as you’re careful about where you surf and what emails you open… you’ll likely be okay.” Horse-hockey. If Windows is so ‘not SO bad’, why is it exactly that most of the top ten free apps on Cnet for Windows are either virus or malware related? And the ones that are not are ‘speed up your PC’ performance related?

    Ladies and gentleman: WAKE UP. Windows BLOWS. The only advantages of the OS are INDIRECT. 1.) PC games, 2.) specialty industry software, and 3.) it’s attached to cheaper hardware. Windows itself is TERRIBLE. People buy Windows because they have to — not because they want to. They resent Apple not because it has ‘inferior’ products but because it has superior products and OS at unattractive prices. (Granted those prices are coming down, but not on all units. I’ve spied a Toshiba 15 inch laptop that is close enough to spec to a Retina 15… but only half the price. Ahem.)

    Even in VBox I’m like, shoot, I better be REALLY careful about what sites I surf to. Why do this to yourself, fellow Mac users? Why hold your breath and HOPE everything turns out okay? Why HOPE that some malware doesn’t infect your PC Guest and sneak into your Mac OS? (By the by: scuttlebutt is that this won’t happen. It can be but it’s as likely as your Mac getting a virus. So really you’re only worried about your Guest Windows becoming corrupted.)

    So patient reader: all you’re heard me say is that PC’s suck and Mac’s rule. Nothing new, right? Not so fast. I told you this wasn’t going where you thought. While playing with VirtualBox it occurred to me that I could finally give the Linux world a look. If you know about Linux, skim ahead. If you don’t, here’s Linux in a nutshell: if you’ve ever used Firefox, VLC, or Handbrake, those are open source programs. Linux is an entire operating system that is open source. Unlike Windows which is rumored to be going subscription, and unlike OS X which is attached to pricier hardware, Linux is free, free, and FREE. As are the updates. (Mac OS X updates are ‘free’ too, yes, providing you’re using Mac’s not so free hardware. Ahem.)

    If you’re not sure you’d like Linux, let my two months of playing reassure you. Linux comes in countless distributions or distros. Think: Mac OS X, Mac OS Y, Mac OS E1, Mac OS Yaya, Mac OS Etcetera. There’s a distro with your name on it out there. And if there isn’t, and I’m not kidding here, if clever enough you could literally create a distro with your name on it. Kind of a silly thing to do, but possible within Linux. (Android is a form of Linux, by the by.)

    The other funny thing about Linux is you can readily alter the OS. If you’re a coder type you can literally do it but if you’re a GUI type like me (and most Mac users are) you can still do WILD things to Linux you’d never dream of doing in OS X or Windows. For instance, most Linux distros are trying to be Windows alternatives. So they look and act something like Windows. And suck eggs for doing so, frankly. They come off as dated to a Mac user as Windows itself. But guess what? You can install a free dock called Cairo. You can hide the Linux panel (think taskbar) and all of a sudden you basically have… OS X. But thanks to Linux being wacky and weird… you can add things to the dock Mac decided FOR YOU that you didn’t want.

    Dear fellow Mac users: don’t you just HATE it when Apple could give you the simplest option but decides FOR YOU you don’t get to have it? Remember the Mavericks dock? How it eliminated the ability to make it transparent? I do… because people like me can’t see the items in the dock if the dock background is bright and shiny. I was testing Mavs in beta and begging Apple to offer a simple transparent option. So were many other beta testers. We were ignored. Only late into Mavs did some open source programmer offer cDock so that we who had trouble using our dock could use it again. Meanwhile, in Linux, Cairo dock offers about 500 more options that Apple decided we don’t get to have.

    Do you see why this Mac user is smiling ear to ear yet? Understand, I’m not a Mac to Linux switcher. This wasn’t a ruse written by a Linux user who never really liked Macs in the first place. I love my iMac I’m writing this on. And I will likely always have a Mac as my main computer, because OS X still rules the lot. By football fields. However…

    … we MacHeads have been trained to buy an iPad as a second computer. You know, if you just need to surf or whatever? Why purchase a $1200 MacBook when a $500 iPad will do just fine. But here’s the thing: a Mac like OS in Linux can run on a cheaper PC just fine. Need that one more time? You can have a Mac like OS running Linux at PC hardware prices. Glen Garry Glen Ross: do I have your attention now?

    Did I mention Linux has less viral and malware activity than Windows? Oh, and did I mention it has less viral and malware activity than OS X? So that “I’m just fine” feeling you have in OS X is also in Linux. Nobody is immune from such malware, but using OS X or Linux is like risking getting hit by a plane crash… while Windows is flying in planes morning, noon, and night. Did I mention Linux is bundled with oodles of free software? Some MEH, some not. LIbreoffice and Calligra may not be as ‘awesome’ as Office for Windows, but they’re scott free. And always will be. Office is clearly going subscription based. Ahem.

    One caveat, and it’s a biggie: both VirtualBox and Linux have learning curves. You can’t be in a hurry to use either. Firstly, you have to a robust connection to the net, to download distros and watch YouTube tutorials. Secondly you must be willing to use the Linux terminal. We Macheads almost never need our terminal but things are different in Linux. The good news is that if this chowderhead can use terminal, so can you. Typically you’re just copying and pasting commands into it and within minutes you’re done using it. Nothing awful, but something future distros should phase out with better GUI options.

    Third caveat: unless iTunes joins iCloud as an app, you won’t be iTuning in Linux. Since I have iTunes on my iPhone, it’s a non-issue for me. But if you must have it, here’s something to get your head around. Buy a PC. Install iTunes in Windows. Then install a Linux in VirtualBox. Why do that? Email and surf IN Linux. It’s much safer.

    You see I’m not talking about Linux replacing Macs. I’m more talking Linux laptops replacing iPad. When these new fanless laptops hit the fan this year, laptops with SSD storage, you’ll really get my thrill at that point. Those are what will seriously wound iPad, not Surface Pro. It’s imminent baby.

    Sick of reading this? Good. Cause I’m sick of writing it. So here’s what I recommend. First, get to know VirtualBox. Learn what ‘installing guest additions’ is all about. It’s a little rough but YouTube will help you. You NEED to learn this because if you don’t your guest OS will live in a teeny tiny window. Guest additions allows the screen size to increase and match your Mac screen, which is critical. The Linux distro I’m about to recommend ‘fixed’ itself to include guest addtions, but most distros don’t.

    Try downloading Linux Mint Cinnamon 17.1. It’s pretty much THE distro at this point. Once you feel good playing in there, install Cairo Dock. This, again, will allow you to alter Mint into something close to OS X. Be patient, give it time. You can spend days just learning everything Cairo dock can do. Don’t panic at the complexity: rejoice at the choice.

    Once you pull this off… you’ll be looking at cheap PCs the way I’m looking at them. You’ll ditch the iPad and instead want a Lenovo running Mint. You might just eliminate the Windows install and put Mint on top of it. Trust me. We iPrisoners have been paying top dollar for hardware too long. We need an iBrake sometimes.

    Linux is that long awaited break. It’s very exciting. Once you get your head around it.

    • CelestialTerrestrial

      I’m surprised the garment industry doesn’t have a Mac s/w app, when i see photos of clothing designers with a computer, they typically have a Mac close by, which is why I’m surprised they don’t have a CAD app that runs on OS X. Has your wife checked out Optitex? I read something about OS X and their s/w. http://www.optitex.com/en/Daz_OptiTex_MACVersionRelease

      Oh, and you want to know why Apple charges what they charge? It’s because they want to stay in business, and upper management wants to keep their jobs. If Apple’s Net Profits were to drop in the same range as your typical PC or Android mfg, there would be a revolving door at Apple’s Corporate Offices due to incompetent CEO’s and CFO’s. Apple has only had people leave because they either retired, passed away, but weren’t forced out by the shareholder/analyst community. Apple went through their revolving CEO door and I think Cook is probably going to stick around for a while. Every PC mfg, AND even Android mfg hardly makes any profit, which is required in order to stay in business for the long haul. While I’m all for more affordable products, I also want great service and support and I hate switching brands/platforms. I just don’t see using short sighted reasons to switch. I hate having to spend time trying to get the cheapest price on computers, because the time spent doesn’t always produce enough savings or a positive result when you try to save a buck. I’ve played the 3rd party RAM game and never again, I hate getting burned by the 3rd party RAM companies that are simply dumping lessor quality RAM that Apple doesn’t want or isn’t good enough for them to use.

      I don’t want Apple to end up like IBM, Compaq, or another company and unfortunately for that peace of mind, we pay a little extra. I’ve gone down that Microsoft road and there are reasons why I stopped using Windows computers. In order for me to use Windows, I had better be getting paid a lot of money to do so. Otherwise, I have no use for it. Microsoft just doesn’t “get it”. As far as Linux? That’s an OS for a VERY specific type of user, for which I’m not and I have no desire to waste a lot of time trying to be one. Free doesn’t mean it costs less money. It sometimes means you are going to spend a lot more TIME trying to get what you ultimately are happy with. Oh, and for a top end version of Linux that has support costs $300 a year for Red Hat Linux Workstation license w/Support, hardly FREE. And to my knowledge, Linux doesn’t support Thunderbolt, and that’s a deal breaker, I don’t use USB drives anymore, it’s 100% Thunderbolt for me. I just wish there were more h/w RAID 5 boxes that were under $2K for a 4+ drive bays with TB. That’s my only beef. My idea is to get a RAID 5 drive, load OS X as bootable and simply not have to deal with internal storage on my desktop computer.

      The one and only complaint I really have about Apple hardware is that they don’t offer a higher end i5/i7 headless unit with upgradeable RAM, high quality graphics chipset, etc. Kind of like a headless high end iMac, if you will. That’s the only thing that I really would complain about. I guess the MacPro was a little strange to get one’s head wrapped around and I understand why they did what they did. I would still only get the 12 core version if I even needed one in the first place, but I was a little taken aback when they announced it. I’m just wondering if they are ever going to get into MP support and actually make something that’s rack mountable without having to buy a rack unit from Sonnett or another company. I know people bitch and complain when Apple removes the user ability to swap RAM, able to replace HDDs, etc., but I understand why Apple does that. It’s all about removing the possibility for 3rd party RAM and HDD/SSD related problems, for which there are plenty of issues and Apple is probably sick and tired of customers sticking their hands inside their computer, screwing things up, installing inferior components and then calling Apple Tech Support, getting angry at Apple because their 3rd party drive, RAM doesn’t work. People need to learn to NOT be a Tim “the Tool Man” Taylor and just buy what they are going to use and spend the money and quit bitching over the price of Apple memory, HDD and SSD. Apple is NEVER going to be the low cost leader, so if all you want is a low cost computer and that’s your driving reason, then simply don’t buy an Apple product. They aren’t going to be the low cost leader and I’m fine with that. It’s almost like buying a Mercedes Benz and bitching and complaining because a Kia is cheaper and it looks like a MB, has similar specs, but half the price. Earth to computer buyer, Apple isn’t the Kia, Toyota, or Nissan or Chevy of the computer industry, they are the MB/BMW of the industry, just accept it.

      Most of the mobile PCs don’t use PCi SSD like Apple uses, they also don’t typically support Thunderbolt (for which I use exclusively for external storage), and/or other reasons why the lower price. one really has to watch out when comparing a Mac to a PC from a brand name company, they are VERY sneaky in what you are actually getting and there are reasons why it might be cheaper. But overall, I would rather pay a little more and have peace of mind. As you can see, HP is splitting off the PC Division as they are trying to find some schmuck that will buy the company, Lenovo, ASUS, ACER, etc. makes about as much net profits in a year as Apple does in a weekend. I know some people get annoyed at the amount of profits Apple retains, but the thing is, they are going to be around for the long term and I’m not convinced these PC mfg are. in order to squeeze out decent profits, they have to cut back on something and when they do, it usually effects the customer one way or another.

    • Kr00

      You know, people stop reading comments once they go past two paragraphs. While I agree with most of what I scanned of your comments, brevity is King.

    • Tim Bowes

      To be honest, they’re all much of a muchness. I use OSX and Windows 7 for work, Windows 8 on a Surface Pro, iOS on an iPad and Linux Mint as a media centre on an old desktop in my living room. They all have their fortes, but I prefer some over others.
      On a desktop, I reckon Linux Mint would be a good choice for many, especially if they want to revive an old computer (as I have). For touchscreens, my personal preferences is Windows 8.
      But for most use cases, we can be OS agnostic these days. I can do most of my work on any OS: Windows, OSX or Linux.
      Unfortunately the life of a developer is more complicated… OSX to develop for iOS, Windows to develop .NET… Which is why virtualization is such a good thing.

  • Robby Roberts

    I realize that there may be a handful of programs not available for the Mac; or that someone who has switched wants to keep running a particular program; but, in general, as someone who played around with this a couple of years back, I’m a strong advocate of sticking to the Mac OS and Mac programs.

    Leave your past behind! Find a comparable program that runs natively on the Mac! Immerse yourself in the new world–or remain in the old one.

    Now, using an Apple II emulator whereby I can play Choplifter, Sneakers, and Winter Games, that’s an entirely different matter!

    ———————
    I hope this post is read in a fun spirit… the New Year is too young to engage in flame throwing!

  • HerveS94

    you are kidding me right lol? i thought mac users, well most mac users despise windows oses, i for one hate mac os x.

  • RBR

    Windows 10; because daily life isn’t challenging enough……

  • Hydro Mac

    How long is the Windows 10 Technical Preview good for?

  • Nader

    hi, thank you for this article
    one more thing how can i make Win to be in full screen mode ? like other Mac app?

  • Pavel Vokoun

    Hello, how much space does all setup take on Mac?

    Thanks

    Pavel

  • cwb

    I need to run Windows programs on my Macs. I love my 3 macs (imac, air and macbook pro retina) running Yosemite but I still need to run windows on a mac. I switched to macs back before MacBooks had intel inside. My husband only uses windows machines and I have continued to use them for my accounting since Quicken stinks on a Mac.

    But lately I have been using 2 great graphics programs to design and run my digital die cutter. One of them runs using Wine on my macs but not all functions work properly. And the other only runs on Windows. I tried Vmware but one of the most important functions did not work at all. So I have been working on an old slow Dell running Vista, cursing all the time. I miss my mac trackpad (or magic mouse) and I really hate windows. I have considered using virtual box but heard it is not user friendly. I’m a 69 year old former software designer who just wants to use the software rather than having to make it work.

    I already have a copy of Windows 8.1 and paid once for Parallels 7 which I never used so I resent having to pay again to upgrade it.

    So I think I will give Virtual Box a try.