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Apple Pay may take on PayPal with web payments

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Pretty soon when you’re shopping online, Apple Pay might become the quickest way to checkout instead of using PayPal.

Rumors have been floating around the web for months that Apple plans to bring Apple Pay to the web and according to a new report, Apple’s WWDC 2016 keynote will be the site of the grand unveiling.

“Apple Pay will expand to the web on Monday, bringing its brand of mobile payments to select retail partners’ websites,” reports Digital Trends.

The rest of the site’s report is pretty vague on details. They’re not sure if it will require a device with a fingerprint sensor, but we think it probably won’t because Apple Watch doesn’t have a fingerprint sensor, and you can use a pin instead of Touch ID on iPhones. It’s also unknown if it will require a specific browser.

Apple Pay on the web would be a nice compliment to the new MacBook Pro that will pack an OLED touch bar at the top of the keyboard and a Touch ID sensor. Older Macs might be able to use fingerprint verification through the users’ iPhone, iPad, or Apple Watch.

Opening the platform to the web could help Apple Pay gain traction in mobile payments as well. Despite being available at over 2 million locations, the service has only launched in six countries. We’ll like hear a lot about Apple Pay on the web and maybe even in iMessage during next week’s keynote. Here’s everything else you should watch out for.

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3 responses to “Apple Pay may take on PayPal with web payments”

  1. cleesmith says:

    If the Fancy app is any indication of how it works, it would be a smart move!

  2. Philip Cohen says:

    PayPal already has more serious on-line competition (outside of its mandated place on eBay) from MasterPass and Visa Checkout; Apple is delusional if they think that Apple Pay is going to make a mark in the on-line payments market as they only work through the credit card system anyway and cost the banks a fee; nevertheless …

    Notwithstanding the otherwise constant stream of disingenuous and delusional nonsense that flows from eBay/PayPal, the share price history of these two clunky operators demonstrates the reality:

    Aug 2007: (pre John Donahoe) EBAY ~$40; AMZN ~$40;
    Jul 2015 (pre eBay-PayPal split): EBAY ~$66; AMZN ~$480;
    Jul 2015 (post-split): EBAY ~$28; PYPL ~$37; AMZN ~$530;
    Currently: EBAY ~$24; PYPL ~$38; AMZN ~$725—LOL …

    PayPal is standing still, and eBay has for years been effectively going backwards—at a steady rate of knots.

    Notwithstanding the “spin-off” of PayPal from eBay, eBay and “PreyPal” remain effectively joined at the hip—for at least the next five years—and anyone that thinks otherwise is simply uninformed; and, thanks to a continuation of most of the destructive policies introduced over the eight year reign (2007–2015) of the “Pain from Bain”, John Joseph Donahoe II, the eBay marketplace is continuing on its slow journey down the toilet; nevertheless, during Johnny Ho’s occupation of the eBay corner office, this cretin and his gang of hand-picked Keystone Kops still managed to obtain for themselves massive, unearned, “performance” bonuses—while the company’s “long” shareholders received not one penny.

    PayPal is a clunky, non-bank-licensed, non-deposit-insured, virtually non-regulated, “pretend” bank; a higher fee-charging payments intermediary that, in the main, rides on the back of the world’s banks’ existing payments systems, with no formal agreement with those banks other than PayPal’s operating of a credit card merchant account facility with, and the making of direct debits/credits on some users’ bank accounts via, one of those real banks.

    PayPal is, in its own words, “a merchant of sorts”; it is not a licensed “bank”; virtually everything that “PreyPal” does is done via “marketing” arrangements with licensed financial institutions—for example, look for the identity of the actual credit provider (in the micro print) on their credit providing instruments.

    Merchants’ funds received via “PreyPal” are at risk of being subjected to lengthy arbitrary holds; funds left “on deposit” with PayPal are not FDIC deposit-insured. Even more perilous (for PayPal’s shareholders), the great majority of PayPal’s business originates from its (still) effectively mandated place on the eBay marketplace, so it logically follows that—with the destructive Johnny Ho-Ho-Ho now sitting at the head of the PayPal boardroom table—”PreyPal” will undoubtedly be accompanying eBay on its journey to the sewage farm.

    The reality is, PayPal’s parasitic, higher fee-charging payments operation has little long-term future—outside of its mandated place on the atrophying eBay marketplace—now that professional online/mobile payments offerings from MasterCard (“MasterPass”) and Visa (“Visa Checkout”) are available to any online merchant that has (or can obtain) a credit card merchant account with a real bank.

    With respect particularly to “mobile” payments, notwithstanding Apple Pay’s disappointing initial showing, methinks Apple Pay, Samsung Pay, Android Pay, “MasterPass”, and “Visa Checkout”, that is, those entities that have formal relationships with the world’s retail banks and MasterCard/Visa, will soon enough bury PayPal’s parasitic operation.

    PayPal users should never give PayPal an authority to direct debit their bank accounts; PayPal should only ever be given access to funds via a real-bank credit card account; that way your credit card-issuing bank will be the final arbiter of any transaction dispute; further, by using PayPal you forego the usual statutory protections that apply to credit card transactions. Conversely, sellers should never accept payment via PayPal for goods that are going to be picked up by the buyer; PayPal offers sellers zero protection from scammers in such circumstances.

    In May 2015, PayPal was fined $10 million over its “Bill Me Later” service, in part for unfairly charging some customers deferred-interest fees. The company was also required to return $15 million to consumers who used the service, which is now called PayPal Credit.

    PayPal’s one-time adoptive parent, eBay, is likely the most unscrupulous commercial entity operating on this planet; but, have no fear, eBay is an equal-opportunity fraudster; demonstrably, they will knowingly aid and abet the defrauding of buyers by unscrupulous eBay merchants who bid on their own auctions, and, conversely, of honest sellers by unscrupulous buyers—as long as there is a financial benefit in such fraud for eBay.

    And if anyone thinks that the clunky “PreyPal” is any more scrupulous than eBay—given their equally poor customer service and lack of any mediation of transaction disputes by human beings, which effectively results in a hard-wired bias towards buyers/payers that they now necessarily have to pander to—good luck to all you small online merchants who may get burned in the process.

    For a detailed analysis of the ugly reality of eBay’s demonstrable, calculated, facilitation of endemic shill bidding fraud on consumers on its auctions marketplace—Google “Shill Bidding on eBay: Case Study #5”

    Goodbye clunky PayPal—it’s not been nice knowing you—Google “Retail Payments: The Reality”, and …

  3. HBTonly says:

    1. Let Apple try, let’s see what they have to offer.
    2. It better start by beating the cashback I get on Paypal debit (as credit purchases), and the fee % on my Paypal seller transactions.
    3. It better also beat the frequent promotions I get offered by Paypal
    4. It’s an ugly solution, but it needs some sort of receiver/swiper for non-Applepay cards/devices
    5. KILLER FEATURE: Build in ALL loyalty cards. I dare you to empty my wallet, and remove the dozens of custom store apps (only used for member loyalty cards). Heck, as a seller, let me make MY OWN loyalty cards with Apple ease.

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