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Cult of Mac Predicts… This Is The iPhone 5 [Rumor Roundup]

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The iPhone 5 is imminent. Apple’s shipping times on the iPhone 4 are already slipping, and according to Cult of Mac’s own release timeline, it’ll be announced as early as September 21st and ship on October 7th.

That gives us a pretty good idea when the iPhone 5 will be released, but that still leaves a lot of questions. How fast will the iPhone 5 be? Will the iPhone 5 support 4G and/or LTE speeds? Will the iPhone 5 have a bigger display?How much storage will the iPhone 5 have? Will the iPhone 5 be a world phone? Will the iPhone 5 have a capacitive home button? And so on.

We think we know. Here’s our best guess based on the rumors so far and what Apple has done in the past exactly what the iPhone 5 will look like once it is released.

Here’s what we think the iPhone 5 will look like, according to current evidence. The iPhone 5 will boast a dual-core A5 SoC, 1GB of DDR2 RAM, an 8 megapixel camera and up to 64GB of storage. It will work on both GSM and CDMA networks, but be limited to 3G speeds. It will have a thinner but wider design, a larger display and may have a capacitive home button.

Here’s our rationale:

Processor

It’s pretty easy to predict that the iPhone 5 will boast an A5 system-on-chip, just like the iPad 2. Not only did Apple use the A5’s predecessor, the A4, in the iPhone 4 after debuting it in the first-gen iPad, but according to one source, Apple won’t have the A6 ready until 2Q 2012… or the release of the iPad 3.

So don’t expect the iPhone 5 to have a beefier processor than the iPad 2. Instead, the iPhone 5 will boast a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU paired with a NEON SIMD accelerator and a dual core PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU, clocked at 1GHz.

RAM

There have been no indications of how much RAM the iPhone 5 will have, but here’s a few things to keep in mind.

When the iPhone 4 debuted, it had double the RAM of the iPad… and that memory was faster too. If history’s a guide, then, Apple might double the RAM of the iPhone 4 when they release the iPhone 5. That’s a gig of RAM.

Is there any point in cramming that much RAM into a smartphone, though? Well, it can’t hurt: it keeps everything speedy and it future proofs the device against future software updates. Apple needs to ask themselves not only if the iPhone 5 will be powerful enough to run iOS 5, but if it’ll be powerful enough to run iOS 9 in a few years.

Finally, it’s worth keeping mind that some of Apple’s high-end Android competitors are already shipping devices with 1GB of RAM.

The iPhone 5 is Apple’s flagship product, so we think it likely they’ll follow the iPhone 4’s lead and double the RAM this generation. It’s worth noting, though, that Bloomberg only thinks 512MB of DDR2 RAM is likely.

Camera

The camera is one of the least mysterious specs of the iPhone 5: it will boast an 8MP camera, as tipped as early as February. Not only do most of the best Android phones already boast 8MP sensors, but a Flickr image featuring a sushi lunch the other day and supposedly taken with an iPhone 5 seems to confirm the higher-res camera. We’d consider 8 megapixels a lock.

3G or 4G?

Let’s get this out of the way. No, the iPhone 5 won’t have LTE.

The reasons are all pretty straightforward. For one thing, Apple is pretty cautious when it comes to adopting new, out-of-house technologies. For example, despite the fact that 3G was pretty much ubiquitous even when the original iPhone was released, it shipped with only EDGE, leaving faster speeds to the next year’s upgrade, the iPhone 3G. Or look at how Apple keeps on delaying the adoption of USB 3 in Macs, favoring their own in-house Thunderbolt technology instead.

The message is clear: Apple is skittish about unproven outside technologies that they haven’t had a direct hand in baking.

But let’s say that wasn’t true. As it stands now, Apple’s biggest carrier partner — AT&T — only has LTE in a few cities, and won’t have anything even coming close to nationwide LTE rollout until 2012. Verizon’s got a better LTE presence… but far, far fewer iPhone customers are on Verizon.

So even if Apple were to release an LTE iPhone, most of their customers would have to fall back on 3G anyway, because the infrastructure just isn’t in place for most customers. And considering Apple’s openly stated reservations about existing 4G chips — namely, their effect on battery life, which Cupertino is notoriously conservative about — Apple’s going to put off rolling out an LTE iPhone until the iPhone 6, at least.

But what about that other “4G” technology, HSPA+? Sure, it’s just supercharged 3G, but could Apple release an iPhone 5 that supports that technology?

We think it’s doubtful, not only because HSPA+ is a stop gap solution — the kind of thing that Apple hates — but it wouldn’t work on Verizon, Apple’s second biggest American carrier partner.

No, expect Apple to be conservative here. They won’t adopt any 4G technology — HSPA+ or LTE — until the iPhone 6 at minimum. If Apple’s going to dip their toe into the 4G spectrum at all, they’ll start with the iPad.

Connectivity

The iPhone 5 is a world phone, capable of running on both GSM networks (like AT&T and T-Mobile) and CDMA networks (like Sprint and Verizon) simultaneously.

How do we know? For one, the Verizon iPhone 4 already boasts a Qualcomm Gobi chip, which is capable of connecting to both CDMA and GSM networks.

Second? Verizon’s CFO confirmed as early as April that the next iPhone would be a world phone.

That means that with your next iPhone, you should be able to wait out your two-year contract at, say, Verizon, then shift it on over to AT&T rather painlessly.

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64 responses to “Cult of Mac Predicts… This Is The iPhone 5 [Rumor Roundup]”

  1. Clinton Verley says:

    Still wondering whether there will be a surprise “X factor”, something which hasn’t popped up in any rumors yet. NFC, even solar charging? Give us something radical and awesome, Apple!

  2. UncleWattie says:

    Whatever Apple do with the next iPhone one thing is certain… it’ll sell by the truck load.

  3. dagamer34 says:

    There’s a few comments and corrections I like to make. First, HSPA+ is already in the Qualcomm MDM6600 used in the Verizon iPhone 4, SI it’s going to be in the iPhone 5 without question. Also, I would not refer to HSPA+ as 4G. Let’s not play the silly naming games AT&T and T-Mobile are playing because they don’t have a WiMAX or LTE network like Sprint or Verizon. Lastly, I think the iPhone 4 had more RAM than the iPad because it’s an always on, wirelessly connected device. More RAM means less time requesting data from the network, and this better battery life. That’s the best reason I have for thinking the iPhone 5 will have 1GB of RAM (and why the iPad 2 doesn’t have that much, it’s usually connected via WiFi and can last for days on a single charge).

    I do wonder if we’ll see NFC this year. Apple always likes to drop some new hardware related technology for developers to play with (3G had GPS, 3GS had compass, and 4 had magnometer).

  4. prof_peabody says:

    The only part of the prediction that’s even in question here is the shape of the thing and related to that, the size of the screen.  The only evidence for that is “This Is My Next” (very often completely wrong and with a pretty horrible track record of this sort of thing), and some chinese case manufacturers (also often wrong).  

    I’m going to stick with the idea that the picture actually shows the new iPod touch instead.  It makes more sense IMO. 

  5. aramishero says:

    I think Apple will change the way charging since they can Wireless Sync in iOS 5. But I think the iPod range will have reinvent…

  6. FriarNurgle says:

    Barge load is more like it. 

  7. Felfac says:

    No the iphone 3g was meant to be the first ever iphone but battery problems led the actual one 3g no being superstar for steve

  8. Gregintosh says:

    I would love to see wireless charging. Maybe it can ship with a small mat or dock that you put it on to charge without plugging it in. No physical wires means no space wasted on the connector, no dock connector problems, and one less point of entry for water in case something is spilled near it.

  9. Tom McGrath says:

    It does seem to make more sense, but what about the mute switch? Then again, the iPad does have one (however it is also the lock rotation switch). But I imagine if the iPod has a four inch screen, so will the iPhone.

  10. FriarNurgle says:

    Better specs and fancy new design at the same price is enough for me.  

  11. Grenki says:

    i can’t believe this ,I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use http://xub.me/ab

  12. TonnyMenj says:

    i can’t believe this ,I just got a $829.99 iPad2 for only $103.37 and my mom got a $1499.99 HDTV for only $251.92, they are both coming with USPS tomorrow. I would be an idiot to ever pay full retail prices at places like Walmart or Bestbuy. I sold a 37″ HDTV to my boss for $600 that I only paid $78.24 for. I use http://xub.me/ab

  13. Chris says:

    what about the antenna-frame design? are they just going to throw that away? Or is that mockup picture not related to the story?

  14. prof_peabody says:

    It could be wishful thinking on my part as I am part of (the majority in fact) of users that are hoping they aren’t going to have a bigger screen.  It makes sense to me to cater to the (mostly gamers and kids) who want a bigger screen by making the iPod touch have a bigger screen while keeping the iPhone the same size.  

    It’s also true that if this is the new iPhone design, then Apple would have had to completely redesign the antenna, even from the CDMA/GSM variation they only just came out with.  This antenna would also have to be better than the old one (which was already the best you could find), for it to be worthwhile replacing the iPhone 4 design antenna with it.  

    No one knows for sure, but it still sounds unlikely to me that this is the new iPhone design, whereas most everything about it fits with a redesign of the iPod touch.  We will know soon enough. 

  15. TylerHoj says:

    I hope that with the home button gestures, you can slide your finger back and forth on the home button as opposed to the screen to go between different screens…kind of like you would full screen apps in Lion. Well written article! Very nice COM. 

  16. Wayne_Luke says:

    Just tell me when the pre-orders start. I don’t care about rumors or details anymore.

  17. Silver Bullet says:

    This is the first time Apple has made a controlled leak about a stolen/lost iPhone without showing the device… That means they are at highest level AppCon 3… So get ready for suprises…
     

    If next iPhone would be a world phone and 72% of the world is water, then it will be waterproof…

    The sushi plate says it will shoot RAW (also JPEG) images and maybe 720p 60 FPS camera with nightshot capabilities…

    The iOS 5 logo dropped in water says it will have sealed jack and induction charging…

    Home button will be wider and it will have two more buttons to switch between apps…

    Next iPad will have solar on the bezel, to run the device, not to charge the device… I hope iPhone also gets something like this… Would be great while reading something…

    There will be an iPod Nano 3G that can serve as a one-way pages/beeper for iOS over 3G, tweets, likes and mails will be notified via this iPod Nano 3G…

    Look at Samsung’s 7.7 inch tablet, banned by Apple legal team in IFA, suggests there is a reason for pulling a 7ish inch tablet down from the stand… A 7 inch iPod Touch 3G?

    BTW, the yellow marked news at patentlyapple.com is actually marked by Steve Jobs himself, to communicate with their investors about upcoming iOS/iDevice updates or the current projects they are working on…

    Enough mumbojumbo for today… Me sleep…

  18. Mitchell Busby says:

    Wait a minute, Apple never future-proofs products…a minor qualm, but still worth noting :P

    Good article.

  19. Daniel Debner says:

    There’s no “magnometer” in the iPhone 4. What you’re thinking of is a gyroscope. (Also, 1 had accelerometer if we’re counting that)

  20. W Z says:

    Although you mentioned battery life a little in 4G/3G section, I think that this is where the iPhone REALLY needs to make substantial efforts… Wifi on, bluetooth off and push email, I don’t get more than a workday (8-10 hours) worth of juice before the battery depletes… If you turn bluetooth on and make a few calls, the battery percentage goes faster than the onion’s single-button Mac (That’s 1% down every few minutes).

    Juice, we need juice!

    My 2 cents.

  21. Blasphemy! says:

    PLEASE GOD give me the new iPhone soon! I promise i will sacrifice my O.G. G1 as soon as you hand me a BADASS iPhone 5.
    yours truly,
    rooted cyanogen mod HTC dream owner

  22. techgeek01 says:

    If that is the case, I’ll be picking up a Samsung Nexus Prime (maybe now called, Samsung Galaxy Nexus?) faster than you can say iPhone 5.

    I’m sorry, but if Apple decides to make a phone like that, they are literally be giving Samsung their crown. I’m sorry, but the Nexus Prime WILL slaughter it.

    Right now, Samsung Nexus prime at the minium will have LTE, 8MP rear camera, 1GB ramm, 16/32GB storage, 1.5GHz dual core CPU, 2MP front camera, and 4.5 inch screen.

    With rumors that were leaked out today, we can expect a 4.65 inch 1280×800 display, along with a METAL Chassis and a release date by the end of October.

    Yes, yes, spec’s aren’t everything, but if you have been reading reviews and such, you hear that the Samsung Galaxy S II is kicking ass. To put it in simple man terms, its an iPhone on steroids. And lots of steroids.  Performance is out of the world, screen is just like the best out there, period. (and thats a display thats resolution is well under apple’s retina display), smoothness is just amazing, OS is just amazing, it’s the best phone out there, right now. Best phone no questions about it.  And sales already proved it.  Sold already over 6 million handsets (probably more like between 8 to 10 million if not more) shattered records in several countries and has out seated iPhone in several countries. 
    oh, and this amazing phone?  It already has a successor out. (well coming shortly.)  Samsung Galaxy S II LTE.  It has everything the Samsung Galaxy S II has, but brings everything up quite a large notch.  LTE, 1.5Ghz dual core CPU, 4.5 inch display and more.So the best has even became better.The whole point being, if the iPhone 5 comes out with spec’s that this article suggests, sales will suffer.  Those specs are “last year” not this year.  And before this “spec’s don’t matter, spec’s don’t matter, spec’s don’t matter”, THEY DO.  You NEED to have the hardware.  If you have the hardware and the software the experience will just be amazing.  With the SGS II, we already know that Samsung is more than capable of delivering a kick-ass phone.Hardware wise, Samsung Nexus Prime (lets still call it that for now) WILL be a beast.Software wise, it WILL be a beast.And with the rumored metal chassis, build quality and looks easily match apple, and surpass. (thinking more of the looks there)iPhone 5 will most likely be the most important iPhone out there. Why? It’s either going to give apple a steady footing in the smartphone market, or it will shows apple loss in the smartphone market.Will the iPhone 5 sell?  Well the obvious answer people like to say is: “shit, yeah!” (basically you got to be stupid to think that it WON’T.)But will it?  Keep in mind, Nexus line up of phones are the BEST android phones out there. Period.  The absolute best phones. (when they come out)  They just are.  The best way to explain a Nexus phone to the average joe is to say, “think iPhone, but on steroids.” You’re not competing against the Motorola Droid Bionic, or the Samsung Galaxy S or HTC Thunderbolt, you’re competing against the Nexus.The Nexus is a phone you don’t want to sneeze at.  This is not some junky toy.  They are the BEST android phones out there and (easily) could be said to be the best smartphones out there, period. The Nexus line up of phones are designed to be the best phone, period. All the newest and best technology out there.  New and best? stick it in.The thing is, you may say, well it dosen’t sell well.  Keep in mind.  SAMSUNG. Samsung devices sell, and its already proven. Samsung Galaxy S, pretty popular phone. Sold truckloads of handsets.  Samsung Galaxy S II?  just like its older brother, but quicker. shattering records left and right.  Samsung smartphones are like some of the best phones out there and are some of the most popular smartphones if not the most popular smartphone.Samsung Nexus prime is not small talk.  It should NOT be underestimated.  At all.  If Apple thinks people buy iPhones no matter what they put out there, they will be heavily disappointed because, Google/samsung aren’t. They’re going to put the best smartphone out there possible. (well, what they are capable off)Now, will the iPhone 5 sell? If like what is rumored above? (in the article?) well, it’s gonna fall flat on its face.  People will NOT buy an iPhone, if they can get something like an iPhone, that is flat out better in any way shape or form.This “people want iPhones, not Android phones”? it’s absolute crap.  Look overseas.  The iPhone is literally on every carrier in hundreds of countries. Android is still popular.  Matter of fact, SGS II out seated the iPhone in several of those countries.  Point being, people WANT android phones, as much as the iPhone and it dosen’t matter if the iPhone is on one carrier or all carriers.So, will the iPhone 5 sell? again, like above? it will fall flat on it’s face.  But if it matches up, or is equivalent to the Nexus Prime?  It will sell.  If its just like above, apple will be heavily disappointed.oh, one more thing.  Google said that the Nexus WILL knock the socks off everything.  Meaning?  Probably not good to be in Apple’s shoes right now.

    iPhone 5 will defiantly be a great phone. It will be (much) better than the iPhone 4.  It will be a killer upgrade.  BUT, the question is, will it be as good as what Samsung/Google are baking in the oven?  Right now? rumors heavily suggest so. Right now, odds are in Google’s favor.  Google already confirmed next generation Nexus (Nexus prime). They already confirmed that it will “knock the socks off everyone”.  They already confirmed (said) that it will be out in October/november.  Right now, we are guess IF apple will have an iPhone 5, since they have said NOTHING. Fact wise, its heavily in Google’s favor.  But, good thing is?  Rumors are Rumors.  They are subjected to change.  Which is probably a good thing here.If Apple does something like this, (stated in article) I know tons of people that WILL be pissed.  They didn’t wait this long to get a phone that Apple would have released regularly in the summer.  These are “summer” spec’s.  Not “fall” spec’s. Do nothing special? (like up the specs or something) You’re going to have a very unhappy group.  Especially if the Nexus Prime whizzes by the iPhone 5.Will I personally get an iPhone?If the iPhone 5 comes with those spec’s stated above?  No.  I won’t even think about it.But if the iPhone comes the exact same spec’s as the Nexus prime, and even better?  I’ll defiantly take the look.I’m going to pick up the best phone period.  If it is the iPhone, it will be the iPhone.  If it is the Nexus Prime, it will be the nexus prime.  Heck, if Microsoft comes out with a phone that’s out-seats the iPhone and nexus prime, I’ll pick that up.I will pick up the best phone period. I don’t care what OS, and who it is made by.But, again, if Apple thinks they can get away with this, they are wrong.  And right now? (again all based on rumors) its not looking that rosy for the iPhone 5.  And I sure hope this article is (completely) wrong, because it will be kind of pathetic for apple to do this, when another company will be going all out.And I sure hope to god, this won’t get into a lawsuit mess, again.For god’s sake, INNOVATE. Make the best phone out there.  Don’t try to ban the best phone.I want the best phone out there.  I don’t want to be stuck with a second rate phone made by X company because Y company phone was taken off the market.I want the best phone.  And you get there by innovating, not trying to sue each other pants off or suing the other because their phone or phones are kicking your but.  innovation. to make the best, you have to innovate.  

  23. ??????? ??????? says:

    As well as a shitload of great (and some not so great) iPhone/iPod accessories straight to the trash bin.
    No, thanks.

  24. Knox Bronson says:

    Your screen name says it all. Only tech geeks care about all the crap you are writing about. Android sucks donkey balls. We will revisit your comment here, or please rejoin us here when the iPhone 5 is actually released.  Read the comments here: http://img.ibtimes.com/www/art… … there are no iphone “killers” coming down the pike … no matter what you say.

  25. Mike Gill says:

    I sold my iphone 4 for a samsung nexus s ad cant wait to go back to the iphone, I got bored and thats why I switched. My first smartphone was a HTC desire which didn’t live up to the hype and neither does this samsung phone. Android issues which I hope would have been addressed are app fragmentation, spyware and poor battery life! 

  26. ??????? ??????? says:

    Well, I see your point. I completely disagree with almost everything you said, but I can understand your way of thinking.
    Right now, Samsun Galaxy SII is (hardware-wise) the most advanced phone. Maybe it does some things better than the iPhone. But does it do the things I want in a better way? Absolutely not. What I want is my (200) quallity apps and a massive appstore that can provide me with a quality app for every need may come up. Android doesn;t have that. Period.
    Moreover, I want enough battery juice to get me through an intense workday, without having to worry which apps to terminate to save resources. The SII/Android also doesn’t have that. Period.
    So I’m sticking with iOS/iPhone. Even if I had to chose between the 3GS and the Galaxy SII, I’d take the 3GS. What use to me is a faster car that doesn’t take me to my destination? And I’m pretty sure the same way feels the majority of iOS users.

    Speaking of iOS users, it’s important to note that they are the primary target user group for iPhone 5. Sure, Apple would like to attract some users from Android, but it’s primary goal is to persuade the existing iOS users to upgrade to iPhone 5. 
    Apple doesn’t care only about marketshare, because it doen’t compete again the whole smartphone industry. It competes again the very high end smartphones, with excellent built quality, attention to design and detail, and an equally polished and powerful embedded operating system. If there are any smartphones of that kind. Steve Jobs clearly said “we don’t ship junk”!
    iPhone 5’s competitor is the iPhone 4. Exactly like iPhone 4’s (bets selling smartphone in the US by official AT&ta and Verizon reports) competitor is the iPhone 3GS (second best selling smartphone in the US). The numbers prove that. Concerning some other countries, it;s possible that another smartphone has the lead. In Greece (my country) for example it may be the xPeria Mini, judging from my experience. But the reason is that here the iPhone 4 32GB costs 780 Euro = 1050$, while with a 18-month data plan (only 350MB) it costs 450 Euro = 600$, with the data plan costing 50 Euro = 75$/month!

    Anyway, it’s sure that the iPhone 5 wil by the tens of millions. 
    You say the Nexus prime will kill the iPhone 5. I say it will kill the iPhone 5, in exactly the same way the Galaxy S killed the iPhone 3GS and the Galaxy SII killed the iPhone4.
    Not to mention the Galaxy Tab that killed the iPad.

    Concerrning google’s “confirmations” that it will knock everybody off their socks, well just take a look at the “innovative, groundbreaking, off-the-socks-knocking” Android v1.0  ! And then take a look at iOS v1.0 ! Under announce and over deliver. Apple’s strategy that Samsung doesn’t seem to be getting.

  27. yyooooQ says:

    I just hope you can multitask for Verizon iphone 5’s like AT&T

  28. Michael Rygaard says:

    Stille hoping that they skip the physical connection all together, and go WIFI and wireless charging only – I bet a wireless-charging unit-device-thingy will fit in the space the physical dock plug takes up

  29. dagamer34 says:

    Oops, my mistake.

  30. techgeek01 says:

    I promise I’ll keep this short and not make it into a Novel.

    “Apple’s strategy that Samsung doesn’t seem to be getting.”
    That’s completely false.  If that was the case, Apple wouldn’t be throwing everything possible at Samsung.  Look at Samsung. They are nailing it. Period. Popularity and sales prove it.  And their growth as well. Matter of fact, at the rate Samsung is growing (smartphone here) they will easily pass apple within a year, if not much earlier.  They must be getting something. And Apple defiantly does not like that at all.

    App wise?  Quality? iOS and Android are equal. other app stores? maybe not.  but iOS and Android? they are essentially equal.

    Battery life? Well, matter of fact, SGSII has BETTER battery life than the iPhone. And this Android = horrible battery life is a myth.  The reason for this was because HTC phones have (maybe had now?) sucky battery life.  But other than that, Android phones have pretty decent battery life.  It’s up to par with the iPhone.

    So, those two things?  Essentially are just myths. They are not true.

    I would take a SGS II over a 3GS any day. Matter of fact I would still take a Nexus  S over a 3GS.  They have the battery life and the power.  Actually they give you all what you need and more.  can’t really say that about the 3GS. 

    (I promise I’ll try to keep this part as short as possible)
    Okay. Its pretty much certain that Samsung WILL make the Nexus Prime.  Samsung has set the base. The popularity is there. The sales are there. The hardware is more than there.  Matter of fact, Samsung phones have the BEST hardware out there. There is no question. BEST performance, killer battery life, best looking display, you get the idea. Software wise, they are going on a roll. (but thats really not the case here since Nexus are always pure android, but that dosen’t matter as well because the software is more than there.)The foundation is there. It’s equally as good as Apple’s if not better. (that could be argued)Nexus phones are designed to be the best possible smartphone. period.  This is not a high-end smartphone, but a SUPERphone.  If you want the best possible smartphone and don’t care about the OS, you want a Nexus device.  Those phones rock. no doubt about it. Hardware is just amazing and the software is amazing. Since they are a joint collaboration, the overal experience is out of the world. Hardware, software, overal experience (combination of hardware and software) is equal to the iPhone at the bare minium.The easiest way to explain what a Nexus phone is, is that its an iPhone on steroids. Think of an iPhone, but better. That’s essentially an Nexus phone.  Oh, that defiantly cannot be said about a lot of other android phones, but the Nexus phone? Big yes.Okay, (sorry, it probably won’t be short) But I have to explain one thing.Google Nexus One.  This was the first Nexus phone. (hence the one)  This phone essentially scared Steve Jobs.  When this phone came out, Steve jobs said. (paraphrasing) “Google wants to kill the iPhone and we won’t let that happen.”  The Nexus One essentially had the impact on smartphones that the original iPhone had on smartphones. sales wise, it was a flop. (I’ll explain that) but innovation wise? It essentially had a huge impact. Matter of fact, iPhone 4 was most likely a result of this phone. This phone had a huge impact. Period.  This was how good this phone is. Matter of fact, its still a top phone.  Basically this showed the world, Google is more than capable of making a phone that flat out destroys the iPhone. (Google and handset maker) Shit, Nexus one is as good as the iPhone 4. the only two advantages the iPhone 4 has over that is higher resolution display and front facing cam. other than that, they are essentially equal.Point being, people underestimate this phone because sale wise it was a flop. Nexus One had a huge impact on smartphones and stil does.Okay, why was it a flop? In the sale world?  Because it was NOT advertised at all.  No advertisements.  period. The only way you knew that this phone existed was if you was either a hard core geek reading tech sites or stumbled across it accidentally   other than that, you wouldn’t have had an idea.  It was first offered for all 4 carriers, except you had to pay the full price.  Another thing was, you could only buy it off-line.  it wasn’t in any stores.  Later, they put it on a contract, so like $200 for the phone, but you couldn’t buy it in a store.  ANd I believed that after a while they only offered it for t-mobile and possibly at&t.That being said, IF the Nexus One was available on all 4 carriers IN STORE, and advertised and contract pricing, It would have destroyed the iPhone. No questions about it. it would have just “killed” the iPhone. That was how good it was.  But, the only reason why it “flopped” (sale wise) was because of what I said above. okay, back to the nexus prime.Essentially all the reasons why the Nexus one “flopped” is completely erased.  Period.Nexus Prime WILL be on All 4 carriers. (Verizon, At&t, T-mobile and Sprint) Currently Nexus S is on 3 carriers. (not on verizon)It is already sold in store(s)It is advertised.And its on contract pricing.To sum this all up. This is NOT a phone you should laugh at.  This phone WILL directly compete against the iPhone.  And its already proven that Google (and handset maker) can make a phone that (not sale wise) can destroy the iPhone AND cause Apple (steve jobs) to be afraid of it. Nexus phones have ALWAYs been iPhones on steroids.  This is the smartphone that is the (silent) iPhone killer. This phone easily could come out of nowhere and bluntly destroy the iPhone.What is the advantage the iPhone 5 will have over this?Hardware? no. Nexus hardware will at the worst, be equal to the iPhone 5. the way rumors going and what Samsung is doing, its gonna blow the iPhone out of the water.Battery life? no. Nexus will be as good, if not better.software? no. Android is as good as iOS.  And essentially offers all the features (and more) as iCloud and such.design. no. Samsung is more than capable of making beautiful products.build quality? no. apparently Samsung will be using metal on the Nexus prime, (glass as well) so build quality will be equal.  and with metal and glass, desing will be qual.Integration of hardware/software? no. it’s equal.This phone, at the worst WILL be as good as the iPhone 5.  No questions about it.Don’t underestimate this phone.You know, people were laughing at the iPhone. Original iPhone.  Look where it is now.Want to laugh at the Nexus prime? (not directed to you, but general population)You might just be laughing at the phone that will dominate the market for the next several years.bare minium, Nexus Prime WILL be as good as the iPhone 5. period. It WILL be on all carriers and sold just like the iPhone 5. hardware, software, design, build quality, battery life, integration, overall experience WILL be as good as the iPhone 5.The point I’m making over and over again is that Nexus Prime WILL be as good as the iPhone if not better. Everything the iPhone has, Nexus has (or will have)  The worst thing you can do is underestimate this phone.  This phone WILL be a massive hit.  It has the foundation just like the iPhone. period.I’m sorry it became so long, but I feel this is very important. People need to realize that Android (and some argue that Windows as well) have matched iOS and the smartphones have matched that of the iPhone.  People WANT android phones as much as iPhones. they WANT android as much as iOS.  The only reason why you always here about the iPhone 5 and not Nexus “prime” is that Apple related news always sells.  That is why. iPhone 5, iOS 5 WON’T hurt Android at all.  This massive migration of Android users to iOS WON’T happen.  The reason why they love talking about it, is that it sells.iPhone 5 will come out Around the same time the Nexus prime.  Maybe more like that the Nexus Prime WILL come out around the same time as the iPhone 5.This is NOT a phone that should be underestimated because at the worst, it WILL be equal to the iPhone 5.  Matter of fact the only thing that will make this phone stand out from the iPhone 5 is hardware.  It will pack a display that will flat out destroy the display of the iPhone. (and won’t put a damper on battery life) It’s also going to be packing LTE and NFC which most likely WON’T becoming into the iPhone 5.  Will (majority) of iPhone users get an iPhone 5? honestly?  If the Nexus Prime kicks the iPhone 5’s ass, they’re going to get Nexus Primes. The only ones who would stay would be the fanbois and girls who will ONLY get iPhones and the ones who spent so much money on iPHone apps and accessories that they are “stuck” with iPhone/iOS.Apple HAS to make a better phone than Google/Samsung, otherwise their will be mass migration too Android, not iOS. Its really hardware here, since everything else, they are essentially equal on. Or will be.  Apple has to nail the hardware down.  Hardware wise it HAS to compete against Nexus Prime. If the hardware competes and is equal to the Nexus Prime, iPhone/Nexus prime sales will be 50/50.  Basically it will come down to what do YOU prefer, because they are both equally good.Only problem I fear is that Apple dosen’t design or make their own hardware. (about the only thing they “design” is the A5 chip, but other than that, nothing else, really.) Apple cannot “have” a better phone, hardware wise than Samsung because samsung is a component maker. They make and design components and a huge percentage of those components are, you guessed it, in iDevices. So, how in the world can Apple “make” a better phone than Samsung, if they have to rely on Samsung, LG, toshiba, etc…. for the components? I’m sorry, but the chance of the iPhone 5 having better hardware than the Nexus prime is almost a 0% chance. Which really “sucks” (for apple) because that’s really the only category that the company(ies) can truly differentiate because in essentially all the other categories, they are equal. ( or will be) Hardware is literally the only category.That being said, both phones WILL be kick-ass, but right now, it appears that the Nexus prime wil be more kick-ass than the iPhone.  But good thing is, there is time (still) and things can still change.  But, now is essentially the most important time, because if you make a device that flops, you’re gonna “lose” the smartphone race.  make a device that is successful, you’re gonna still be in the race. And you will still play a dominate rule.But, I guess we have to wait until the end of october and see what happens. 

    Edit/Update: The whole point of this novel is that at the bare minium, the nexus prime will be as good as the iPhone 5. No questions about it. It will be. In everything, except hardware, where it will 99% most likely to have better hardware than the iPhone. That’s it. That’s basically it.

  31. techgeek01 says:

    I promise I’ll keep this short and not make it into a Novel.

    “Apple’s strategy that Samsung doesn’t seem to be getting.”
    That’s completely false.  If that was the case, Apple wouldn’t be throwing everything possible at Samsung.  Look at Samsung. They are nailing it. Period. Popularity and sales prove it.  And their growth as well. Matter of fact, at the rate Samsung is growing (smartphone here) they will easily pass apple within a year, if not much earlier.  They must be getting something. And Apple defiantly does not like that at all.

    App wise?  Quality? iOS and Android are equal. other app stores? maybe not.  but iOS and Android? they are essentially equal.

    Battery life? Well, matter of fact, SGSII has BETTER battery life than the iPhone. And this Android = horrible battery life is a myth.  The reason for this was because HTC phones have (maybe had now?) sucky battery life.  But other than that, Android phones have pretty decent battery life.  It’s up to par with the iPhone.

    So, those two things?  Essentially are just myths. They are not true.

    I would take a SGS II over a 3GS any day. Matter of fact I would still take a Nexus  S over a 3GS.  They have the battery life and the power.  Actually they give you all what you need and more.  can’t really say that about the 3GS. 

    (I promise I’ll try to keep this part as short as possible)
    Okay. Its pretty much certain that Samsung WILL make the Nexus Prime.  Samsung has set the base. The popularity is there. The sales are there. The hardware is more than there.  Matter of fact, Samsung phones have the BEST hardware out there. There is no question. BEST performance, killer battery life, best looking display, you get the idea. Software wise, they are going on a roll. (but thats really not the case here since Nexus are always pure android, but that dosen’t matter as well because the software is more than there.)The foundation is there. It’s equally as good as Apple’s if not better. (that could be argued)Nexus phones are designed to be the best possible smartphone. period.  This is not a high-end smartphone, but a SUPERphone.  If you want the best possible smartphone and don’t care about the OS, you want a Nexus device.  Those phones rock. no doubt about it. Hardware is just amazing and the software is amazing. Since they are a joint collaboration, the overal experience is out of the world. Hardware, software, overal experience (combination of hardware and software) is equal to the iPhone at the bare minium.The easiest way to explain what a Nexus phone is, is that its an iPhone on steroids. Think of an iPhone, but better. That’s essentially an Nexus phone.  Oh, that defiantly cannot be said about a lot of other android phones, but the Nexus phone? Big yes.Okay, (sorry, it probably won’t be short) But I have to explain one thing.Google Nexus One.  This was the first Nexus phone. (hence the one)  This phone essentially scared Steve Jobs.  When this phone came out, Steve jobs said. (paraphrasing) “Google wants to kill the iPhone and we won’t let that happen.”  The Nexus One essentially had the impact on smartphones that the original iPhone had on smartphones. sales wise, it was a flop. (I’ll explain that) but innovation wise? It essentially had a huge impact. Matter of fact, iPhone 4 was most likely a result of this phone. This phone had a huge impact. Period.  This was how good this phone is. Matter of fact, its still a top phone.  Basically this showed the world, Google is more than capable of making a phone that flat out destroys the iPhone. (Google and handset maker) Shit, Nexus one is as good as the iPhone 4. the only two advantages the iPhone 4 has over that is higher resolution display and front facing cam. other than that, they are essentially equal.Point being, people underestimate this phone because sale wise it was a flop. Nexus One had a huge impact on smartphones and stil does.Okay, why was it a flop? In the sale world?  Because it was NOT advertised at all.  No advertisements.  period. The only way you knew that this phone existed was if you was either a hard core geek reading tech sites or stumbled across it accidentally   other than that, you wouldn’t have had an idea.  It was first offered for all 4 carriers, except you had to pay the full price.  Another thing was, you could only buy it off-line.  it wasn’t in any stores.  Later, they put it on a contract, so like $200 for the phone, but you couldn’t buy it in a store.  ANd I believed that after a while they only offered it for t-mobile and possibly at&t.That being said, IF the Nexus One was available on all 4 carriers IN STORE, and advertised and contract pricing, It would have destroyed the iPhone. No questions about it. it would have just “killed” the iPhone. That was how good it was.  But, the only reason why it “flopped” (sale wise) was because of what I said above. okay, back to the nexus prime.Essentially all the reasons why the Nexus one “flopped” is completely erased.  Period.Nexus Prime WILL be on All 4 carriers. (Verizon, At&t, T-mobile and Sprint) Currently Nexus S is on 3 carriers. (not on verizon)It is already sold in store(s)It is advertised.And its on contract pricing.To sum this all up. This is NOT a phone you should laugh at.  This phone WILL directly compete against the iPhone.  And its already proven that Google (and handset maker) can make a phone that (not sale wise) can destroy the iPhone AND cause Apple (steve jobs) to be afraid of it. Nexus phones have ALWAYs been iPhones on steroids.  This is the smartphone that is the (silent) iPhone killer. This phone easily could come out of nowhere and bluntly destroy the iPhone.What is the advantage the iPhone 5 will have over this?Hardware? no. Nexus hardware will at the worst, be equal to the iPhone 5. the way rumors going and what Samsung is doing, its gonna blow the iPhone out of the water.Battery life? no. Nexus will be as good, if not better.software? no. Android is as good as iOS.  And essentially offers all the features (and more) as iCloud and such.design. no. Samsung is more than capable of making beautiful products.build quality? no. apparently Samsung will be using metal on the Nexus prime, (glass as well) so build quality will be equal.  and with metal and glass, desing will be qual.Integration of hardware/software? no. it’s equal.This phone, at the worst WILL be as good as the iPhone 5.  No questions about it.Don’t underestimate this phone.You know, people were laughing at the iPhone. Original iPhone.  Look where it is now.Want to laugh at the Nexus prime? (not directed to you, but general population)You might just be laughing at the phone that will dominate the market for the next several years.bare minium, Nexus Prime WILL be as good as the iPhone 5. period. It WILL be on all carriers and sold just like the iPhone 5. hardware, software, design, build quality, battery life, integration, overall experience WILL be as good as the iPhone 5.The point I’m making over and over again is that Nexus Prime WILL be as good as the iPhone if not better. Everything the iPhone has, Nexus has (or will have)  The worst thing you can do is underestimate this phone.  This phone WILL be a massive hit.  It has the foundation just like the iPhone. period.I’m sorry it became so long, but I feel this is very important. People need to realize that Android (and some argue that Windows as well) have matched iOS and the smartphones have matched that of the iPhone.  People WANT android phones as much as iPhones. they WANT android as much as iOS.  The only reason why you always here about the iPhone 5 and not Nexus “prime” is that Apple related news always sells.  That is why. iPhone 5, iOS 5 WON’T hurt Android at all.  This massive migration of Android users to iOS WON’T happen.  The reason why they love talking about it, is that it sells.iPhone 5 will come out Around the same time the Nexus prime.  Maybe more like that the Nexus Prime WILL come out around the same time as the iPhone 5.This is NOT a phone that should be underestimated because at the worst, it WILL be equal to the iPhone 5.  Matter of fact the only thing that will make this phone stand out from the iPhone 5 is hardware.  It will pack a display that will flat out destroy the display of the iPhone. (and won’t put a damper on battery life) It’s also going to be packing LTE and NFC which most likely WON’T becoming into the iPhone 5.  Will (majority) of iPhone users get an iPhone 5? honestly?  If the Nexus Prime kicks the iPhone 5’s ass, they’re going to get Nexus Primes. The only ones who would stay would be the fanbois and girls who will ONLY get iPhones and the ones who spent so much money on iPHone apps and accessories that they are “stuck” with iPhone/iOS.Apple HAS to make a better phone than Google/Samsung, otherwise their will be mass migration too Android, not iOS. Its really hardware here, since everything else, they are essentially equal on. Or will be.  Apple has to nail the hardware down.  Hardware wise it HAS to compete against Nexus Prime. If the hardware competes and is equal to the Nexus Prime, iPhone/Nexus prime sales will be 50/50.  Basically it will come down to what do YOU prefer, because they are both equally good.Only problem I fear is that Apple dosen’t design or make their own hardware. (about the only thing they “design” is the A5 chip, but other than that, nothing else, really.) Apple cannot “have” a better phone, hardware wise than Samsung because samsung is a component maker. They make and design components and a huge percentage of those components are, you guessed it, in iDevices. So, how in the world can Apple “make” a better phone than Samsung, if they have to rely on Samsung, LG, toshiba, etc…. for the components? I’m sorry, but the chance of the iPhone 5 having better hardware than the Nexus prime is almost a 0% chance. Which really “sucks” (for apple) because that’s really the only category that the company(ies) can truly differentiate because in essentially all the other categories, they are equal. ( or will be) Hardware is literally the only category.That being said, both phones WILL be kick-ass, but right now, it appears that the Nexus prime wil be more kick-ass than the iPhone.  But good thing is, there is time (still) and things can still change.  But, now is essentially the most important time, because if you make a device that flops, you’re gonna “lose” the smartphone race.  make a device that is successful, you’re gonna still be in the race. And you will still play a dominate rule.But, I guess we have to wait until the end of october and see what happens. 

    Edit/Update: The whole point of this novel is that at the bare minium, the nexus prime will be as good as the iPhone 5. No questions about it. It will be. In everything, except hardware, where it will 99% most likely to have better hardware than the iPhone. That’s it. That’s basically it.

  32. SgbN says:

    …but it’s not an iPhone.  

  33. SgbN says:

    yeah yeah… I bet you bookmarked cultofmac.com

    haven’t seen your website cultofmacwannabe.com 

    still, it’s not an iPhone.

  34. techgeek01 says:

    ………. Does that matter….?

    Do you want the best possible thing out there? Or do you want the thing that is the flashy/fancy/has the name?

    That’s the question.

    Do you truly want the best thing out there no matter what? or do you want the thing that has the name?

    Personally?
    I’m going to go for the best.  If it is the iPhone, then it’s the iPhone.  If it’s the Nexus Prime, it will be the nexus prime.

    I don’t play this “favorite’s” game.  If blackberry was making the best phones, I would take one of those.  If nokia/microsoft were making the best phones, I would take one of those, if HP/webOS were making the best phones, I would take on of those.

    And of right now, it looks heavily to be the Nexus Prime.

  35. shop formen says:

    who is the idiot that wrote the article above ?

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