A new electric car company has revved up Apple Car conspiracy theorists who think the mysterious automaker may actually be a shell company for Apple’s automotive ambitions.
Faraday Future has already pulled in $1 billion in investments and is stocking up on top Tesla talent (just like Apple), but little else is known about the new company that currently boasts over 400 employees with plans to add 100 more of the best automotive engineers and designers in the world before the end of the year.
Take a look at the rendering of their future car:
Photo: Faraday Future
Faraday’s roster includes former Tesla employees who have served as director of vehicle & chassis engineering, director of manufacturing, and vice president of supply chain. They also sniped BMW’s founding member and lead designer of the i3 and i8 concepts.
Launching a secret shell company to covertly promote a new product isn’t Apple’s style, so I highly doubt there’s a connection. In fact, the LA Times claims the Faraday brand is tied to Chinese billion Jia Yueting, who’s looking to back up his huge ambitions with the $7 billion he made founding the company Leshi Internet Information & Technology.
A vendor working with the company in Gardena told The Times that Faraday hasn’t made any secret of its origin or its plans.
“They told us right off that this is China’s response to Tesla,” said the vendor, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak for Faraday.
It looks like Faraday Future is definitely not related to Apple in any way, but we expect to see a lot more from them. The company is positioning itself to be Tesla and Apple’s biggest rivals according to senior VP/company spokesman Nick Sampson who says Faraday Future plans to put a rival to the Tesla Model S on the road by 2017.
Buster Hein is a freelance writer who lives in Phoenix, Arizona. Twitter: @bst3r.
25 responses to “Conspiracy theorists think Apple owns this mysteryious car company”
Can we edit this article for spelling and grammar?
The word “Rode” should really not be there
plus, apple can pull $1 billion out of a duffel bag
Sure, just as soon as we get rid of the stigma surrounding the word “delusional.”
You’re delusional.
There’s an article on the Mayo Clinic website that you might find useful. It’s called “Mental health: Overcoming the stigma of mental illness.”
> 1. There is purposefully a stigma around mental illness.
Which is why, by extension, there is a stigma around being delusional — it’s typically a sign of mental illness.
> 2. Reported for personal attacks.
That’s odd, since you said that there was no stigma associated with the word “delusional.”
> 3. Either provide proof of your claims or don’t waste our time with them.
A google search will quickly prove my claim of an article on the Mayo Clinic website called “Mental health: Overcoming the stigma of mental illness.” Sorry I can’t provide a link directly.
You wrote: “There is PURPOSEFULLY a stigma. You’re not going to get sane people to stop treating the mentally ill as mentally ill.”
“Stigma” is not a synonym for “difference.” It means a “mark of disgrace.” The point of the article is that having a mental illness should not be considered disgraceful.
Delusional: See “Tallest Skil” for an example.
You are wrong; there is a stigma surrounding the word “delusional.” Just tell a mentally fragile person that he is delusional and you will quickly discover that I am right.
I know what the word “delusional” means: “Characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.”
Apparently you had some misconceptions about it’s meaning, since the dictionary definition of the word “delusional” accurately describes most conspiracy theorists.
I think if they are going to use a name for a car company, maybe Ohm might be a good one to use… Faraday doesn’t sound like a futuristic type car. Tesla’s already used. Watt would be funny.
Considering that the most common use of the term Faraday in electronics is “Faraday Cage,” it’s really not conjuring up positive images.
Absolutely not. The majority are whack jobs who deserve to be stigmatized.
Could you clarify what you are referring to when you write “the concept itself”?
“With decades of conspiracy theories proven correct…”
Only an extremely tiny percentage of conspiracy theories have proven to be correct — usually the less far-fetched ones for which there is credible evidence. Most just serve to make deranged, paranoid people even more so as they feed off of each others delusional beliefs.
These are actual conspiracy theories that people still believe:
1. The moon landings were faked, a feat involving tens of thousands of scientists, engineers, and politicians.
2. The Obama administration used a top secret weather machine to create a tornado that destroyed the town of Moore, OK in order to distract people from scandals, and Hurricane Sandy to assure his re-election. .
3. There are space aliens, or their remains, in Area 51.
4. The CIA created AIDS.
5. Climate change is a hoax perpetrated by thousands of scientists, scientific journals, governments, and industry all colluding together all over the world.
6. The real reason we invaded Iraq was because Saddam Hussein was in possession of an actual “Stargate”
7. Facebook was created by the CIA and that Mark Zuckerberg is just a front man.
8. Mass shootings like Sandy Hook and Aurora are “false flag” operations as part of a plan to seize everyone’s guns.
9. Our world leaders are actually shape-shifting reptilian “lizard people.”
10. Hitler was actually planted in Germany by
evil and powerful Jews who directed all of his acts during WWII.
This could go on for pages and pages, and I really didn’t make any of those up. All have multiple proponents and you can find them with a Google search.
> You want to back that up?
Sure. Give me a list of the “decades of conspiracy theories proven correct” you mentioned and I’ll start with that.
> And you want to actually get back to the point?
I was already on point.
>Stellar Wind. MKUltra. Northwoods. 641A. COINTELPRO. Tuskegee. Should I keep going?
And for every one of those were probably 1,000 or more that had no basis in reality and were totally wacko.
Think of all of the conspiracy theories about water fluoridation alone. From the late 1940s through the early 1960s, may on the far right repeatedly asserted that it was part of a fiendish plot to install a socialist or communist regime, with many different conspiracy theories about how put forth. Some claimed that it was a Communist plot to deplete the brainpower and sap the strength of a generation of American children.” Dr. Charles Bett claimed that “poisonous fluorine has been placed right beside the water supplies by the Americans themselves ready to be dumped into the water mains whenever a Communist desires!” Others didn’t believe it was the work of Communists, instead asserting that it was part of of Truman trying to socialize medicine.”
> The point is that if you think your government and extragovernmental
entities AREN’T conspiring against you, you’re mentally ill.
“Your government and extragovernmental entities” are probably only vaguely aware of your existence, so I doubt that they have satellites trained on Indiana to track your every movement.
You wrote: “Do you just not comprehend what we’re discussing?”
I fully
comprehend what we we’re discussing; why their is a stigma attached to the term “conspiracy theorist.” And you’d rather divert the discussion to a small number of illegal and/or overreaching spy programs.
There’s a stigma associated with the term “conspiracy theorist” because most of the “theories” are nothing more than obviously flawed, illogical, paranoid, delusional ramblings that make Scientology look rational by comparison:
The Large Hadron Collider is a multi-dimensional portal intended to awaken Osiris, the Egyptian god of death.
The Earth is hollow and governments are conspiring to keep the public from finding out.
The second Gulf War was waged in order to close a stargate owned by Saddam Hussein
The Beatles were a fake band staffed by a revolving cast of (almost) identical actors.
The moon is an ancient spaceship.
The Earth is hollow, with a hole to the interior located in the Antarctic, protected by the world’s superpowers.
The cure for cancer actually exists but is being suppressed by the government.
9/11 was staged by (the Illuminati, the U.S. government, the Israeli government, the Rothschilds — pick one).
John Hinckley, Jr. had been brainwashed into trying to assassinate Ronald Reagan, at the behest of George Herbert Walker Bush.
The Titanic did not sink and the ship that did sink was its sister ship the Olympic in an insurance scam.
You wrote: “So no, you don’t understand what we’re discussing. Thanks for confirming.”
No, I understand all too well, and that’s what’s upsetting you. You don’t want to stick to the subject, which you defined with your initial, single-sentence post: “Can we get rid of the stigma surrounding the phrase ‘conspiracy theorist’, please?”
You don’t want to discuss the typical paranoid, delusional, ignorant conspiracy theories — because they show exactly why there is, and should be, a stigma associated with the term “conspiracy theorist.”
You wrote: “You don’t seem to get what a theory is.”
We are talking about ‘conspiracy theories,’ and they have as much to do with proper theories as fool’s gold has to do with actual gold.
You wrote: “So no, you don’t understand what we’re discussing. Thanks for confirming.”
No, I understand all too well, and that’s what’s upsetting you. You don’t want to stick to the subject, which you defined with your initial, single-sentence post: “Can we get rid of the stigma surrounding the phrase ‘conspiracy theorist’, please?”
You don’t want to discuss the typical paranoid, delusional, illogical conspiracy theories — because they show exactly why there is, and should be, a stigma associated with the term “conspiracy theorist.”
You wrote: “Of those, this is one that has some actual evidence behind it.”
Nope. It’s just as bat-fecal-matter insane as the rest of them. It was debunked years ago
You wrote: “You don’t seem to get what a theory is.”
We are talking about ‘conspiracy theories,’ and they have as much to do with proper theories as fool’s gold has to do with actual gold.
You confirmed what I wrote in my last message: You don’t want to discuss the typical paranoid, delusional, illogical conspiracy theories — because they show exactly why there is, and should be, a stigma associated with the term “conspiracy theorist.”
You wrote: “A disproportionate number of the mentally ill believe in liberal values.”
What is the proportion in the mentally ill subset vs. the population at large? You may be thinking of the people in the chairs instead of the ones on the couches. A peer-reviewed 2012 study of social and personality psychologists found a self-proclaimed liberal-to-conservative ratio of 14:1.
You wrote: “You’re acting like a fool.”
And when logic fails, you always have personal attacks to fall back on.
You wrote: “It could easily be proven–either within or without a court of law–that this statement isn’t even remotely true.”
The evidence, and logic, that debunks that conspiracy theory is overwhelming (spaces added to link to evade link blocking)
www. williammurdoch. net/articles_34_Titanic_switch_theory_02. html#4
You wrote: “So as soon as you have scientific PROOF of a conspiracy (of any magnitude between any persons, in any situation), it ceases to be legitimate and instantly becomes false. This is what you are arguing.”
That is a straw man you concocted because you could not refute my actual argument. But you knew that.
Your argument is perfectly analogous to demanding that the word “hypochondriac” not be stigmatized because, in some tiny percentage of cases, hypochondriacs have accurately diagnosed themselves. In other words, don’t stigmatize a stopped clock, because it’s right twice a day.
You wrote: “Are you just copy/pasting at this point, because we’ve already discussed why this is meaningless.”
What we discussed is your continued failure to stay on topic, which I why I have to keep bringing you back with reminders like that.
You wrote: “No, it’s an exact rebuttal to what you claimed.”
You are wrong and I will show why.
I wrote: “We are talking about ‘conspiracy theories,’ and they have as much to do with proper theories as fool’s gold has to do with actual gold.”
You replied: “So as soon as you have scientific PROOF of a conspiracy…it ceases to be legitimate and instantly becomes false.”
I did not write anything about the accuracy of the conspiracy theories.
A conspiracy theory can be horribly flawed in it’s logic and lacking in evidence even if the predicted conspiracy later turns out to be real.
You wrote: “if you actually cared about or believed in the quote above, you would accept that THEORIES of CONSPIRACY can have evidence, logic, and intellectual rigor”
But the vast majority do not have an adequate level of evidence, logic, and intellectual rigor, so the stigma associated with the term “conspiracy theorist” is reasonable and justified. If you want to come up with a different term for those whose theories are well-constructed, I’m fine with that.
You wrote: “Definitionally NOT hypochondriac if you had an actual problem.”
I am going to lead you along in small steps so that you can keep up:
1. Over a ten year period, Bob believes he has each of 38 separate ailments.
2. Bob did not have any of those ailments.
2. Bob is a hypochondriac.
3. Bob notices a growth on his skin and believes it to be skin cancer.
4. It is skin cancer.
5. Bob is still a hypochondriac.
You wrote: “You don’t know what a theory is, you don’t know what a conspiracy is, and you don’t know what hypochondria is.”
1. If I did not know what a theory was, my science-based career would have ended decades prior to my retirement.
2. Your claim that I do not know what a conspiracy is is groundless.
3. I proved you wrong regarding hypochondria, showing that you were trying to define words that you did not understand.
Faraday Future uses Google Maps.
I see we still haven’t fixed the typo in the headline. Does CoM not use sub-editors? Come on… that headline has been misspelled all day.
Pretty funny photo of the car! Anyone sitting near a window had better be about 4′ tall! The way that the car tapers in at a low height will give people about -12″ of headroom!
Looks like Chinese alright. They cant ripoff Tesla’s name so they had to go with another famous eletricity-related science guy. They should probably just settled with Edison LOL.