Samsung Says They Will Sue Apple Once They Announce iPhone 5 With LTE

Samsung Says They Will Sue Apple Once They Announce iPhone 5 With LTE

Samsung is still fuming that they got their trash handed to them in court last week. The legal beat down they received in court was just raw and powerful and awesome, and they totally deserved it.

Samsung is understandably mad, and probably a little embarrassed and majorly vindictive, so they went out this morning and declared that if Apple even thinks about releasing an iPhone 5 with LTE they will sue them immediately, and they may have the patents to win. Maybe.

LTE has been emerging as the new standard for high-speed mobile data connections, and it turns out that Samsung has quite a few patents for it. Thomson-Reuters says Samsung owns about 12.2% of all existing patents pertaining to LTE technology, while Nokia owns 18.9%, Qualcomm has 12.5%, and Ericsson has about 11.6%.

Even though Samsung may own a lot of LTE patents, it’s not the sheer number of patents, but the quality that will determine how strong a legal weapon they can be used as. So it’s likely that Samsung is just trying to talk some smack after getting roughed up on the playground.

The Korea Times reports that Samsung is trying to partner-up with U.S. mobile carriers to fight back against Apple. They’re currently in talks with Verizon about modifying designs on Samsung Galaxy devices, and they’re going to start making more Windows phones with Microsoft so they’re not so dependent on Android.

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  • davidgoscinny

    Wouldn’t the LTE patents fall under (once again) FRAND rules? They’re already in hot water for using 3G FRAND patents as weapons in the E.U., I’m not sure this would be a very smart move.

  • Excalibur025

    Apple isn’t known for taking threats lightly. This started as a lawsuit, it’s going to end in a pissing contest.

  • David Chan

    Samsung is pathetic.

  • Buster

    @davidgoscinny I’m not a legal expert, but that’s what I was thinking. The patents would fall under FRAND and Samsung will have to license them fairly.

  • Bernardo Siqueira

    Samsung without Apple is nothing. They can’t even create their own devices. If Apple somehow would ever fail, Samsung would go with it too. They’re stupid!

  • gnomehole

    There goes all the comments around Apple being the only instigator in all these lawsuits. You’d look like a complete hypocritical moron.

    What a bunch of babies SameSung has become. They have little kids running that company?

  • Tallest_Skil

    I guess they’ll never sue, since it’s not the iPhone 5.

    I kid, of course. They will sue. And they’ll not only lose immediately, they’ll be forced to pay Apple for NOT infringing on Samsung’s FRAND patents.

  • The_Truth_Hurts

    Samsung, unlike apple has a MASSIVE patent portfolio. And without tons of Samsung patents and technology, literally none of apple products would exist. Tear apart your apple devices. Samsung is all over the insides of them.

    Does Samsung have patents to ban LTE apple devices? Most likely yes because its near impossible to make a device that is not infringing.

    Apple already settled with Nokia. Its expected that apple will have to settle with Motorola. Samsung? As much as you all claim that all Samsung does is make copies, Samsung had a HUGE influence on mobile phones. Maybe not on par with Nokia or Motorola, but far higher than apple on that list. Without Samsung, a lot of these things would never had happen. Literally, what Apple did was that they came to the market at the right time and instead of gearing their device to a small group like what most companies were doing beforehand, they geared it to the general public. A lot of companies were already in the process of going down this road. All Apple did was that they were the first to make it popular, primarily because they geared their product to a larger group.

  • ddevito

    Samsung without Apple is nothing. They can’t even create their own devices. If Apple somehow would ever fail, Samsung would go with it too. They’re stupid!

    That statement was just as stupid as the person who typed it.

  • Alex Vizzini

    Does Samsung want people to hate them? Copying design, supporting factories with such harsh condition (doesn’t even compare to Apple’s Foxconn factories), and now suing Apple for an industry standard?

  • hanhothi

    Apple’s bully boy tactics of late have earned them some very bad karma. What goes around comes around. Since their recent success, Apple has suddenly turned against its former friends and allies, namely Google and Samsung. They may be able to get away from Googles 3D maps by using NOKIA’S but how long befor they piss Nokia off, as they have with their other former friends? Much of the guts of the current iPhones are made by Samsung, smart to start sourcing from other manufactures as they have screwed it there. Is Facebook and Twitter going to save them? No. Bad karma Apple.

  • BryanElliott

    Too bad ‘iPhone 5′ won’t ever exist :P ! iPhone 6 with LTE !!!

  • riaandunckleysa

    Things to do with $1billion
    1) Buy someones LTE patents
    2) Build your own plant that makes your own processors that does not involve Samsung.

  • ElVox

    Samsung, unlike apple has a MASSIVE patent portfolio. And without tons of Samsung patents and technology, literally none of apple products would exist. Tear apart your apple devices. Samsung is all over the insides of them.

    Does Samsung have patents to ban LTE apple devices? Most likely yes because its near impossible to make a device that is not infringing.

    Apple already settled with Nokia. Its expected that apple will have to settle with Motorola. Samsung? As much as you all claim that all Samsung does is make copies, Samsung had a HUGE influence on mobile phones. Maybe not on par with Nokia or Motorola, but far higher than apple on that list. Without Samsung, a lot of these things would never had happen. Literally, what Apple did was that they came to the market at the right time and instead of gearing their device to a small group like what most companies were doing beforehand, they geared it to the general public. A lot of companies were already in the process of going down this road. All Apple did was that they were the first to make it popular, primarily because they geared their product to a larger group.

    You do realize that if they have LTE patents it means they have FRAND patents and therefore they *have* to licence them to Apple at a decent price, right? And that most probably, said FRAND LTE patents have already been licensed by intel/qualcomm/whatever who builds the actual LTE chips that go into the phones, which means that Apple *already* has a license for all those FRAND LTE patents?

    Yeah, didn’t think you had read all of that.

  • The_Truth_Hurts

    @EIVox

    X company is infringing on Apple:
    1) OMG!!!!! They copied Apple!!!!!
    2) Apple has the right to NOT license the stuff out!

    Apple is infringing on X company:
    1) OMG!!!! They copied Apple!!!!
    2) The stuff is FRAND!!!! Apple is already paying for it!!!!!!

    Basically to sum up what you said.

    Funny how you want Apple to “punish” X company that is infringing upon Apple, but once Apple is in the position, suddenly, It’s the complete opposite.

  • Dong Min Son

    nothing wrong if they agree to license their tech at a reasonable fee like 40$ per phones

  • rickey

    Apple can just buy Nortel and Nokia and RIM to obtain patents to defend against any law suit Samsumg could bring against them for LTE.

  • jamz82277

    Not all LTE patents are standard essential. Samsung must think it has a case against Apple if they are banking on the iPhone 5 to have LTE- They probably already found patent violations in the LTE version of the iPad- They are just waiting for the iPhone 5 to arrive so they can have them both banned. As happy as Apple is to have Samsung phones banned over predated patents about touch interaction, icons and black rounded rectangles, I would think it was a safe bet to think that Samsung will Core Apple given the chance. If Apple’s method of acceleration in the market is litigation, someone inevitably Will find some hard evidence against them and play their own game against them. Maybe Samsung already found it in the LTE iPad and is just waiting for the iPhone to come with it as well.

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