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The new iPhone 16e — why Apple fans love it and hate it! (CultCast #687)
Mar 11, 2025
This week: everything you need to know about Apple's new iPhone 16e, and why Apple fans both love it and hate it. Plus: Also, the leaked design of the iPhone 17 Air, the miniLED Studio Display, a huge update to Vision Pro, and the winners our Apple event prediction game! Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 3:18 Intro 7:37 Squarespace 9:41 iPhone 16e 17:11 iPhone 16e missing features 32:27 CultCloth 33:26 iPhone 17 Air render 42:39 miniLED Studio Display 47:18 visionOS 2.4 50:37 Prediction game results
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great gets them every
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time I could give you a recommendation for a gastroenterologist to say
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Lis are we live I have no idea seems like nothing's working we should just give up I think the talk show is starting
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it's not too late to catch it oh no it's never mind and we're live
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and we got the 20 from Hugo last Hugo where you been we're desperate for money
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over here Hugo we missed you so much and by we I mean Leander KY he's going to love that 20 did you win you
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sure did my friend you want at life you've got enough money to just throw it
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away on a podcast like this we know that you're winning that's obvious just don't
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gloat all right go ahead and gloat maybe a little bit uh go did not win the
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prediction game oh Z's referring to oh my God the the prediction game oh I
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complely I dread that is it possible to go negative in the prediction game uh well I feel like I might have actually
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scored first time for everything should we do that next time if you get one wrong get negative
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points so Griffin wins with like 140 points and we get like negative 60 each uh all right I would have to get
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something right for that to happen and that did not happen this time yeah I think we all got a a little out
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over our skis God that was a tough one that was really a tough one um we'll see
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what happens we all tie with zero how about that all right should we go ahead and get this
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thing moving we got so much show and we don't have any time left we got like 18 minutes left to do this show so I think
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we should go ahead and queue up Mrs you know who and we'll get it moving oh Mrs d
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Ste she's so excited us oh my dear did someone say tie oh no I tied up eleny
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before he made love last night L did you ever see
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uh that um tweet no I missed that Vince Von movie Wedding Crashers oh yeah see that
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scene where he got tied up I think that's what she St remember of course yeah of course uh Mrs D don't
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say anything more about that please Noone wants to hear about your adventures with elcan though I'm glad to hear that he's still with us you want
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the Tweet action Lou this might be the best one yet i' love it here it comes cover your
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ears did the mic even pick that up did of course it did because this mic is so
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directional you know it's like barely was slightly um was it
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muted it was it was tolerable I don't want to deafen you guys exactly
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okay uh uh I think we're ready to go let's go ahead get the music going Mrs D
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warm up those vocal cords and we'll get the show rolling
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in three and two hello and welcome to the casty best
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30 plus minute Apple conversation you're going to hear all week long I'm your host airon
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Legend join me today when he retires he's considering reloc to a non-extradition
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country just in case any of the culta Mac writers complain to authorities about his disciplinary practices he's
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the magic Eder of CAC L worlds is here hey hey also with us he's been cocking
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the cracks in his Vision Pro in an attempt to waterproof it then he can wear it in the shower which is the one
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time of the week he has to take it off he's a rer for CAC Griffin Jones is here
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good evening Aon how are you feeling this week oh terrific with relation to
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the prediction game that we played last week oh man I really don't know I I I
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either absolutely dominated or I lost by like the biggest margin that's ever
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existed within the prediction game that was such a tough one and I could barely
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remember when I was watching the release what we had even talked about
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like cuz as soon as the the show's over I just you know can barely remember it so I don't know but we'll talk about the
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results of the prediction game at the end of the episode and we'll of course talk all about the new iPhone 16 16e God
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what a weird name the 16 e i don't stands for
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uh exceptionally unimpressive oh I'm just joking stands for air fun yeah
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that's right which is on it cuz I have no plans on buying it um but yeah we'll
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we'll talk all about it some people love it some people hate it we'll talk about everything um we also have our best look
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yet now at the new iPhone 17 air dude I don't know I don't know we'll look at the I
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mean you probably all saw this this week you Pro you probably saw the um I don't know if I should call them
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leaks the um uh what I even call it
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the renders thank you of it it looks great but I just don't know if I believe
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that that's it I mean the fact that German is has basically said that he
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doesn't think that's it makes me think that it's probably not it so I don't know we'll talk about all of it we'll show it what else do we have here oh we
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got a big update coming for the Vision Pro that Griffin's excited about because
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he's the only one that has one I mean literally the only one I think he's like the only one left that has one I'm just
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joking I would love to have one if they were cheaper I would buy one again um we've got some studio display more
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Studio display news I'll tell you why it's probably getting time to sell it if you um if you have one we'll do the
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prediction game results uh before we dive in a quick announcement if you can hear this that's good we switched our
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there's so many places we could begin but I think we should send it over to all Lewis Wallace for a recap iPhone 16e
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what is it Lewis why should people care you got to convince us I I have to
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convince us you mean Tim Tim Cook didn't do that the other day uh I mean he in his best artificial manner in his
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whispered tones he tried uh yeah so the iPhone 16e
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replaced the iPhone SE this week as Apple's budget model got a thorough redesign with a larger screen impressive
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longer battery life a more robust camera and a processor that can handle Apple intelligence thank heavens it can handle
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Apple intelligence can you imagine can you imagine have an iPhone that didn't have apple intelligence oh my God the
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horror it have to be half the price uh let's see iPhone 16e comes equipped
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with Apple's lced a18 chip found in the iPhone 16 series uh it's 40% faster than
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iPhone se3 that it replaced and 80% faster than iPhone 11 the iPhone 11 give me a break I love the way they compare
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to like I know a lot of people who recently upgraded from an iPhone 11 wow there's a lot of them out there okay
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maybe that's why they they use that comparison especially for this product it like this iPhone SE and or iPhone 16e
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is going to be sold to people who keep their phone a long time so you know that's that's the people who they're trying to Market this for yeah that's an
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interesting observation uh so we heard rumors about this before but it's true uh the iPhone
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16e introduc introduced Apple's first inhouse design cellular modem the Apple
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C1 this is a quote from that was definit that was definitely a loss for me in the predictions came I heard that I said oh
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okay great I just lost the point can I just interrupt this predictions game is ruining all my
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fun well at least I like to have at least two three interruptions per segment the predictions game like I love
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that we do it but it almost ruins the announcements for me because I just sit there disappointed you know what I mean it's like oh there's a lost Point
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there's a lost point oh great I can just I know that Griffin's patting himself on the back right now you know I had a lot
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of those I wasn't every day until Wednesday I'll tell you that much when Monday came and went when Tuesday just
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sailed right past I that that's how I was feeling the rest of the week so you
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were depressed Monday and Tuesday I was only depressed Wednesday okay so that makes me feel better sorry Lou well I was I was less depressed on Wednesday
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but then I added up the scores so oh boy all right leou sorry kind cayen Dr
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Apple's VP of iPhone product marketing said that the C1 quote provides fast and reliable connectivity and it's the most
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power efficient modem ever in an iPhone that's a big deal there you go I mean that's a that's a pretty
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impressive little thing to have this um supposedly the combination of the Chip And the modem I guess the size is a
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little smaller design whatever anyway they they yielded a design with more battery space resulting in the best
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battery life ever in a 6.1 inch iPhone 4 hours longer than the iPhone 16 at you
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know streaming video shocking that's that's a big plus yeah uh let's see same
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48 megapixel Fusion sensor as the iPhone 16 camera with Optical 2x tele photo
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Zoom it it's just not so good with uh video I don't know this says it can
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record 4K 60 with spatial audio sound mixing and noise reduction I I I read There were some things that were not as
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good about it as far as capturing video it's not as good as the iPhone 16 Pro which can do 4K 120 but it's the same as
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that's such a n feature for most people like yeah I'm never clear on that stuff
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because none of it my eyes can't see the difference in any of it so it also doesn't do spatial recording for the
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Vision Pro I saw that as a big a big bummer for all those Vision Pro owners they ALS definitely if you're Vision Pro
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owner you don't want the cheapest possible iPhone yeah well the thing is if you're a vision Pro owner you can't
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afford anything else so you have to get the cheapest iPhone but you can't you're not allowed anyway let's see uh what
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else we know about it uh has the action button that the other ones does does not have the camera
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button uh this was a shocker to me and I don't know why I didn't think of this in the first first place uh you can
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activate visual intelligence with the action button by if you customize it so that it sets which I thought no way
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they're going to do this without the camera button or camera control strictly because of visual intelligence and sure enough apple is smarter than me what do
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you know uh new iPhone 16e comes in either matte white or matte black starts
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at 128 gabyt of storage and here's maybe the most disappointing thing costs
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$599 minimum yeah although they did up the storage start Friday yeah yeah it's
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it's more storage but you know it's also of course the storage costs Apple a quarter per phone $175 more right than
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than the iPhone S yeah I think that one of the reasons that it's so much more expensive and I think something that we
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may have missed when we were talking about this last week is tariffs I think apple is now taking to
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account tariffs on this phone I think I think so you also have to consider like where it's slotted into like a lot of
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people only pay attention to like the current model iPhone but Apple has these different product Slots of the cheaper ones like for $100 less than the iPhone
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16 you can get the iPhone 15 for $100 less than that you could previously get the iPhone 14 and for even less than
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that you could previously get the iPhone se3 this has taken the slot of the two
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years old phone so the iPhone 14 is gone this takes that position and it's at the same price point however um because this
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was rumored to be an iPhone SC product people were expecting it to be cheaper and I think like
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Apple might be you doing a different strategy I mean we can tell they're they're going for a different strategy here because it's not called iPhone SE
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anymore it's called iPhone 16e uh my I'm thinking that maybe unlike the iPhone SE
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which is released at one point one price point and stays at that same exact price for its entire life until it's eventually replaced I wouldn't be
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surprised if after the iPhone 17 comes out the iPhone 16 e has its price reduced over time as it gets older
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that's a possibility yeah yeah they might even they might even make an e mod phone every year in the spring like in
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February 20126 there might be an iPhone 177e we don't know that's what made it
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uh as soon as they switched to the number with I'm like wow are they GNA do this every year maybe so maybe every other year who knows yeah it's hard to
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say but I could see that happening and you know every year they they would
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have to change the feature that are included which we'll go through
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this list in a minute like there's so much stuff missing from this phone and we'll talk about what we've said all the positive things we can say about it
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let's move on to the next story yeah yeah there really isn't a whole lot positive to say I mean that's
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not to say that this phone isn't a good phone I think it's actually going to sell really well I just think that this phone is probably not meant for us or
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people listening to the show I could be wrong about that I mean to your point Griffin a lot of people keep their phones for a long time and there are
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people that buy a and keep it for 10 years and then upgrade and there are people that do the same thing with their iPhones I find that hard to believe
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because I feel like phones Decay a lot faster than Max too like after four or five years I feel like they start to
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have like some serious issues and if you have any problems at all they can't fix them they basically have to just give you a new phone but in any case give you
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no F Well I mean when I say give I mean you know in exchange for a huge fee yeah
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absolutely so I don't want to I don't want to feel I don't want to bash this phone a lot of people are bashing it cuz
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I'm happy that there is a lower priced option out here and I think for a lot of people a lot a lot of the like the
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missing features that we're going to talk about they're not they're just not going to care about you know I'm like does it have OLED yes I think that's
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like a huge upgrade is it going to have the fastest most current processor yes
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even though there's a cave out there too um and but you're missing the big one oh
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what was that there's a big missing feature that it doesn't have it doesn't have mag well I know but there's no mag safe and
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and I think that for for people like us that's a huge hit just like not having promotion is a huge hit but I think for
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most just normies they just they don't even know what mag safe is really and they probably don't even use it would be
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my gu there's an in group and outg group there are people who don't know what mag safe is at all but then there are people who like have fill their house with mag
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safe accessories and think it's like the best thing ever like in my opinion it is one of the best uniquely iPhone features
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like yeah there's ch2 on Android but like only a couple Android phones have it so far like the world of Mag safe
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accessories is like such a magical to to live in I agre absolutely true like I've
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got and I've talked about this before like I've got like this little cheap iPhone stand that I keep my phone on that I got on Amazon for like 15 bucks
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and it's like it's just a dumb stand it doesn't do anything ah Griffin's got one too sorry I wasn't showing you on the
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screen um and I love this thing man like and being able to just snap it onto the
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back and just have it be used as a a stand is so nice and and not to have to have it just laying flat on my desk and
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not charging I don't always want to have my phone charging so I just like that this is just like a just like a dumb stand that just holds it basically all
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right let's move on let's talk about what you're what you're not GNA get there's and there's a list there's a
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list oh I'm ahead of myself everything Apple stripped out of Iphone 16 to make
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the iPhone 16 e um where do we even begin Al I'll I'll
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I'll I'll end with the with the first thing on this list which is the price but let's talk about this first so you
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you don't get an ultra wide camera which I think is a huge hit it's kind of a
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major bummer that for this price you only get one single camera the ultra wide is gone uh Dynamic Islands I'm not
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surprised also doesn't make an appearance here you just get the regular old Notch um which you know whatever not the
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end of the world but the dynamic island is definitely a very cool feature you say you're not surprised did vote for
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that in the prediction game did I oh I don't even remember really this this is why I'm probably in the negative on the predic I spoil it I'll stop spoiling it
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um camera control now I think that was a point I think that was a point Griffin I
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said no and you know what not a big loss yeah some people might consider
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that actually an upgrade uh color options not not a lot of colors you only get whites and black
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but you know what do you expect I'm missing G CPU core so the caveat I spoke
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about earlier it gets the newest Apple 18 ship but you don't get the same amount of cores as you do with the
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iPhone 16 so the regular core count on the iPhone 16 is five uh CPU cores or
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GPU cores excuse me and on the iPhone 16e you get four is it going to matter I
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don't know hard to say if you play a lot of games on your phone maybe but you
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know hard to say uh you get a downgraded display um and by that I'm talking about
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the ceramic Shield so the newest phones use a uh well the current generation of
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ceramic shield and the budget model uses an older version of ceramic Shield so it's going to be less
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protective um the display also doesn't get as bright the iPhone 16 reaches 1,000 knits the 16e only reaches 800
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nits and Outdoors those extra 200 nits I think you're going to notice that's going to make a big difference it do
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extra display boost where it goes up to 1,200 nits oh 1,200 I thought it was 2,000 the 16 16 mod go up to 2000 the
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regular one okay which that is a huge hit thank you I should have pointed that out we're talking about the the the
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typical brightness so on the 16 it's it's 1,000 16e is is 18 is 800 but with
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Boost when you're Outdoors the 16 can go up to 2,000 nits that is hugely bright
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1,200 not 2,000 1,200 thank you um and the standard Vision can go up to 2,000
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nits and 1 1200 I think is probably bright enough but in very bright scenarios you're going to notice that it
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doesn't look very bright uh mag safe which Griffin already talked about huge
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Omission um the iPhone 16e doesn't have mag safe and any way shape or form it can do wireless charging but only at 7.5
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Watts which you know what's the point at that point it's basically like a lot of people are also saying that like if you
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get a case that has a magsafe ring in it then it would technically be compatible
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with magsafe devices and that it would charge at the slower Chi charging rate at 7.5 Watts instead of 15 or 30 or
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whatever mag safe is at now up to 25 if you use the right charger yeah but you it also wouldn't be it wouldn't do like
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um if you it wouldn't do the like the fancy thing where you can attach like a MAG safe wallet to it and it would you
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know be able to track its location or any stuff like that like and it it's kind of weird that even
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Apple's that Apple's Like official cases for the iPhone 16e don't have like that
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fake mag saafe ring in them and yeah so that they could be more mag safe compatible like one of the best things
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about mag safe isn't even just like the charging a accessories but like it's the simple fact that like sticking it on a
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stand and taking it off is just so much faster and easier like I have a MAG safe charging puck in my car that's like my
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favorite thing ever yeah yeah it is I can't imagine
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shifting away from mag safe I I would just be heartbroken and like I I know
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I'm basically asking for the same phone as an iPhone 16 except much cheaper and that's not realistic like if I were to
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accept a trade-off because the the whole engineering of this phone is designed through different picking different
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tradeoffs I would have taken an even worse display if it meant I could get mag safe back I think having mag safe is
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more expensive than having an OLED display it must have been so hard to
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like look at all the features of the iPhone 16 and say okay how do we create a phone that's $400 cheaper or not not
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$400 cheaper since it's the since it's the 16 but how do we create a phone that's not going to compete with our
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higher price phones like what stuff do we have to pull out and scrutinizing
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over which DET which details are going to make the cut or not like that would actually be a really hard Endeavor I
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feel like okay let like yeah go ahead oh yeah go oh no you go ahead let me finish the
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list real fast um other things that you probably want to know it doesn't have
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the minimum Onnit brightness doesn't have sensor shift ois which means your
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images are not going to be as stabilized no thread chip which for me would be
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another big one because I have thread accessories in my home I think a really big hit is no Wi-fi 7 no Wi-fi 6E you're
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going to be stuck with Wi-Fi 6 dude Wi-Fi 6 that is significantly slower um and
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let me go back to I think the number one problem with this phone that is the price I just 600 bucks for this phone I
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think that that's where they really missed it I think that this is a $500 phone with all the stuff that it's
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missing I think $500 would have been a much more fair price for this phone $600
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still feels kind of premium and you're missing a lot of features
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and I wouldn't recommend this phone like it seems like you would be better off buying a refurbished iPhone 15 15 Pro 15
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Pro Max which you could probably get a 15 Pro Max for the same price as this phone and that seems like a much better
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buy in my opinion so I don't know how Apple's going to deal with that and and
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maybe most people would not consider buying a refurbished phone or a used phone maybe that's the play but I
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certainly wouldn't recommend this phone I would tell people to buy a refurbished older model because I
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think it's going to serve you much better what we gonna say Griffin it's also missing the ultra wideband chip I
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the neur phones on the second generation Ultra wideband chip this doesn't even have the U1 chip so you don't get any Precision finding feature with air tags
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or other iPhones that's true and you know this
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phone is only $200 less than the iPhone 16 and I'm like yeah and if you if you
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look at the monthly what's what's the monthly difference probably like $5 a month or something yeah maybe not even
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that much so I'm like for for $200 more it seems
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like you would just be better off getting the iPhone 16 I don't know it doesn't come in like the fun colors and
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Apple's line is Oh but you can make it colorful with their cases and like two
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out of the five colors are black and white again one of them is like this maroon one of them is is this ugly green
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like it's it's it comes in one fun color with the Apple official
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case we got uh Hub hub hubex from the chat if I upgrade my iPhone 10s I hope
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it's a Max a 10s 10s match will I fall in love with mag safe
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well I'd say you fall in love with a lot of things when did the tennis come out I
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used to have that phone yeah wow nice rounded rounded edges remember that um
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oh that was a great phone I really did love that phone I I think it's time to
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upgrade yeah I would I would do it that was a phone that had the really awful overactive HDR and the image sharpening
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so yeah you'll really love the cameras of the new ones yeah I think I actually turned it off after a while am I missing
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anything else I think I captured it I think that was pretty much everything again I don't think that this phone is
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for the people in this audience but it is good to know the pr there are a lot of young people who who may listen to
28:31
the show teenagers who are just given a phone by their parents and you know they don't really have a choice of their parents are just going to buy them the
28:37
cheapest phone and this is probably what you know teen every teenager is going to be given over the next few years and
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it's you right about that live in the mag safe world yeah you may be right about that plus you know you can get it on a payment plan and it has a warranty
28:50
so it does make sense for eight dollar difference a month I just looked at the prices is it really eight bucks for for
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two for two two years 24 months it's eight difference wow 25 be that much
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that's huge yeah I know it's okay yeah I I I you know as far as
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the price goes I I completely agree with you oron if it was 59 or I'm sorry $4.99
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none of us would be harshing on the thing right because it's it it's just it's so close in price to the iPhone
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16 just it would be hard to not go ahead and spend that extra $8 month yeah and I
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think that's kind of my conclusion is the the the miss is not the specs the Miss is the price I just feel like the
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price is is too high for the specs that you get so well if you're right about
29:41
the Tariff thing and then the iPhone 177 price jumps a 100 bucks I think it will
29:48
I've seen some people talking about that on Twitter aka the only new X
29:53
and I don't see apple taking a 10% hit on the price and it's been forever since
29:59
they've raised the price and I know we talk about it every year they're going to raise the price they're going to raise the price I think this is going to
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be the year that the iPhones all get like a $100 price price race if nothing
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else they'll just uh blame it on Trump they'll blame it on the tariffs I mean
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yeah it's it it's it's the same reason that and it might be legit I mean just take ma safe out of everything sorry
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that's the option oh my god get rid of the tffs to have mag
30:29
safe yeah I think I think this is it man I mean it's the same reason that that companies all do layoffs all at the same
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time it's because if a company does layoffs when no one else is doing it it makes them look bad like they're like
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they're underperforming or something but if the layoffs are happening everywhere it's the perfect opportunity it's like
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well you know cost cutting measures you know it's like every once in a while you got to do them this is going to be it guys it's going to be the year that the
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uh the the base iPhone pro model goes to $1,100 and the freaking Max is going to
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be like you know astronomical $1,400 or something crazy all right there you go the iPhone
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16e Paradise from the chat oh no that's not you Paradise Dipsy do wants to know
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what's the E stand for it stands for Aon you know I was so honored when Tim asked
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me if if he it would be okay to use and I actually said no I was like cuz he wanted to call it the iPhone 16 airon
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Edition and I was like I don't feel feel like this phone is representative of the
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features I would want people to have and he said what if I just shorten it to e and I said okay that's fine just leave
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me out of the documentation if any anyone from the Press asks you like please just leave my name out of it
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but actually uh I sent an apple PR folks email yesterday asking what does the e
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mean you won't believe this no reply oh shocking okay they don't answer every
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question I think it stands for efficient though uh actually John gber mentioned this he
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he said in an online press briefing today uh when asked whether the E stands for anything an apple rep said no it
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does not stand for anything but that it's built for everyone
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God everyone that's just well okay that's just precious entry level there
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you go yeah the iPhone 16 entry level I love it Betty okay let's uh let's move
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you know what this might be my favorite story of the week but I hesitate to be excited about it
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because I just don't know if this is it you know what I mean I just don't know but I'll send it over to Griffin to talk
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about the iPhone 17 air we got our first look here supposedly so on Monday John prer shared
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some iPhone 17 air renders based on pretty much the final design according to his front page TCH YouTube channel
33:54
the images show a Sleek iPhone with flat sides and rounded edges hey what's new the device is so slim
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that the USBC Port isn't or can't be centered on the Y AIS Pro procer wrote
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on X the port is closer to the back of the phone than it is to the front the
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iPhone 10r 11 and 12 I think the base models also
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had an offset like lightning Port connector and that really bugged me like that really irritated me I think it was
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because like they had an LCD display instead of OLED but man it's it's nice it's an Apple product it should be
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centered but uh apparently this device is so thin that they can't Center it uh interestingly the device might feature a
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horizontal camera bar at the top similar to Google's pixel lineup but despite running across the phone horizontally
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it'll has only one camera with the microphone and LED flash on the other end of the bar I think it's a neat look
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previous reports suggest the iPhone 17 air will pack a single 48 megapix rear camera Apple purportedly will follow the
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same design language on the iPhone 17 Pro lineup the horizontal camera bar will be larger on the Pro Models to
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accommodate three camera sensors oh man it's gonna be a big bar um yeah the
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latest leaks point to an MSRP of $88.99 making the phone $100 cheaper than the pro model well it could be $100 cheaper
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than the pro model and be $9.99 with these price raises you never know yeah the slim iPhone will also stand out for
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using Apple's in-house Wi-Fi and Bluetooth chip replacing longtime partner rcom so I guess to clarify
35:30
Qualcomm is the company that supplies like the cellular modems and that's what the C1 chip replaces uh this is another
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new chip that apple is developing replacing the the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth stuff by broadcom which is a different
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company with a similar name not confusing at all yeah you know there could be like a whole documentary made
35:51
on Apple's development of the C1 chip I think that that development has been ongoing for like 78 years
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and since they bought Intel's modem chip division in 2019 wow and uh I think I'm
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plagiarizing uh flark Sherman here who said that all of that work goes into
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like a one- sentence press release but it's such a massive Endeavor that Apple has accomplished and a 25% um reduction
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or I should say yeah reduction in energy usage is going to mean better battery life across all Apple's iPhones and 25%
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I mean that's a pretty big number I mean that's for Energy Efficiency for the C1 chip who knows how much extra battery life you'll get out of your phone
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because of that but yeah Griffin I think Apple kept the C1 kind of underplayed
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because unlike Apple's like processors like the the M1 which was unabashedly
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better in every single way than the Intel chips before them the C1 isn't actually better than the Qualcomm chip
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in every meaningful way it's more efficient and so that's the one thing they and I heard probably slower marketing point but it does doesn't
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support 5G millimeter wave it only supports like the lower you
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know standard 6 gz band of 5G something that you've used one time in your life when you went past at the convention
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center yeah exactly like it's not actually better in every way than the qualcom chip before
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so I I bet the C2 chip will get like a big fan fair if it if if and when that
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comes out so for those of you watching I just want to point out there's kind of two versions of this phone that um John
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proster has in his video here there there is the iPhone 17 air version which basically has like one pill-sized like
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long capsule that goes across the entire top of the back of the phone which it houses like all the camera stuff that
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that is on your phone now in that little square up on the top left um and then there's the pro
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version that has a much um thicker pill that encompasses the three cameras so
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that's why there's two different uh pictures here I hope that he's right I really do I think this is a really cool
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design he seems to be pretty confident about it I was go I was watching the
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dialogue this is so funny watching German go in there and just be like nope uh-uh not going to happen like and I
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don't remember the context so I I don't remember exactly what he was saying wasn't going to happen and and John's
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like well you know I'm not sure are you are you positive Mark like I think this is the way it's going to work and Mark's just like no you know yeah did you watch
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Pro's video uh I actually haven't watched the video he actually says like
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he he doesn't get super explicit but he says like you know this is a render we made based on what I saw okay like he
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saw I don't know mock-ups or prototypes or something that you know it's it's it's once again him saying I saw this I
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got this from a source I hear I I think this is accurate and I hope he's did with the with the the camera app story
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from a few weeks ago like he didn't want to post exactly the images he was sent because he doesn't want to burn his Source he recreated it and came up with
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these images yeah I'm just getting you know product announcement vibes from
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before that have been really flashy and newsworthy and then they just never
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happened like his story on the the Apple watch redesign his story on the iPhone
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16 or was the 15 redesign I think it was the 15 actually where he showed like the
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cameras being like you know inset inside the actual phone the whole back being flush I still want that new design
39:34
language I know me too it was really cool looking but like never happened volume buttons yeah you know so there's
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there's been some stuff that he's done where it's like it looks really cool when it's reported but then it just never happens and this kind of has the
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aroma of that it's like wow that's a really beautiful design like that would be really cool now I think out of all the stuff he's shown this I I think just
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from a practical perspective has like the most likely chance of being real because like this is just a redesign of
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what you currently have on your iPhone SP T taking the camera um area on the back and just stretching it across the
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whole phone which I think makes it look more uniform and and it's not anything drastic it's like a visual change so but
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it's hard to say it's hard to say but again you know I hope this source is a real source and is giving him accurate
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information because I feel like he's gotten fed some bad Intel in the past
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there you go more probably in just a few months when the when the the case manufacturers start leaking the specs
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that's true and dude this design is so beautiful like I really like this design
40:39
a lot I I really don't like the um unbalanced nature of like the camera area on the back of the phone like how
40:46
it just kind of sits on one side and then when you set your phone down it like the whole phone rocks I think having it be a area that goes across the
40:54
entire top back of the phone makes way more sense and it looks futuristic and cool it looks like something on a blade
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runner I love it or a cyberpunk or something something made by Google everybody just like the pixel no
41:08
come on leis Google must have gotten a mole inside of the industrial design
41:13
team and copied Apple before they released their version that's what I think it it'll be the the the the lovely
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like subtle attention to detail that'll of the actual finished product that'll make you go oh that's not just a Google
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copy that's an Apple product right there is there any any benefit or uh negative
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impact from having the flash that far away from the lenses um well it's still pretty close
41:38
so probably not if you move the flash too far away
41:43
sometimes you can get um a reflection that that comes out of the human eye
41:50
which causes red eye in the cameras Oh red eye yeah so it's better to have the
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flash as close to the actual lens as possible um so you don't you don't get one of like those
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Reflections but how far away does it need to be I couldn't tell you but I can just use the computational photography
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stuff to just Ed to remove it yeah that's that's that's true I mean when was the last time you saw humans having red eyes in photos that literally never
42:14
happens anymore it was so common for so long can you set up like a photographic style uh for you know demon eyes so
42:22
everybody has red eyes again I haven't I haven't tried that bring red eyes back all right forgot all about that
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what a what a flashback to the the good old days of flash yeah hey L you did
42:34
that on purpose he scores all right let's uh talk quickly
42:40
about the uh Studio display just want to give you all heads up if you have the studio display it might be time to sell
42:47
it soon uh display analyst Ross young recently claimed that the next Studio
42:53
display refresh will switch to a mini LED panel that's going to be a huge upgrade this will allow allow better contrast
42:59
deeper blacks higher brightness while lowering power consumption you know this is really what they should have done for
43:04
the current Studio display because the price is so Bonkers like $1600 monitor that doesn't have I mean it's basically
43:10
just the iMac monitor in a in a monitor shell I mean it's just crazy I won't go
43:16
on another diet try about that I mean after all I did buy it but he indicated that the refresh might happen later this
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year or early next year so just be aware if you have one which I do I'm going to
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be selling mine before the new ones come out try to get like you know th000 bucks
43:32
for it and prepare for the next one because the next one's going to be way better and Ross young I think he's one
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of the most accurate um I don't know if I would call him a leaker I guess
43:44
analyst that exists he has re he he definitely has sources because he's gotten so much stuff right in in the
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past so German also said that apple is working on an update and I think the
43:57
timeline was similar to what Ross young said so we will see what happens but if
44:04
you have a studio display come October I'd be selling that bad boy maybe
44:10
November in preparation Actually I don't even know if I would wait till November October might be pushing it to be honest
44:15
with you because if it comes out at the end of this year it's probably going to come out in October or November it's going to be before the holiday season
44:22
right so maybe at the end of the summer if you don't need it dayto day it might be the story aund because that's all in
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there referencing the release date yeah code named code named j47 the monitor
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will launch in 2026 featuring roughly the same size screen as the previous one
44:39
uh German also says sorry to all you Mac Pro owners out there all both of you
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apple is not working on a pro display xdr Refresh on a priority this is due to
44:51
its high price tag which puts it Out Of Reach for most customers yeah you don't say and he also believes that Apple will
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quote probably eventually get around to offering a bigger iMac that's pretty
45:03
solid you heard it here first folks probably eventually they're probably doing that no I don't think so sorry sorry to
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all you big iMac fans I don't think it's gonna happen yeah at least not anytime
45:16
that's a shame honestly that's a shame yeah it would be cool and I think it would sell well too I think people would
45:22
love a larger screen IM Mac the great thing about the new Mac Mini is that it's much cuter than an
45:30
iMac okay want you buy that instead and I I fully endorse that the Mac Mini is a
45:35
great computer which you know is kind of the path that people have you know you buy a Mac Mini then you buy a display
45:42
and you can buy Apple's display or you can buy a different display there's a lot high resolution oh dude there so
45:48
many great um uh cuti OLED displays on the market now like I can't show you
45:53
guys the one I'm using for the CT Commander but it's a 34 in wide um I
45:58
what are the dimensions I can't remember it's not 4K I think it's like 3440 by
46:04
like 1440 I can never remember actual um monitor it's QD OLED but the pixels are
46:10
giant on that thing I can't imagine I I don't see any pixels but yes it's it's not retina level but dude the the colors
46:18
and everything on this monitor are just absolutely outstanding and uh I bought this monitor
46:23
I think for like $8 or $900 which I thought was a great deal deal and I recently saw it on sale for 550 it's a
46:29
it's a it's an Alienware model um so there's some really great monitors out there like you don't have to get the
46:36
Apple you know display I mean if depending on the type of work you're doing you may want to get the Apple
46:42
display but there's a display coming out soon from vew Sonic that's has the same
46:47
resolution as the Apple Studio display 5120 x 2880 uh 27 in but it has a higher
46:54
refresh rate at 75 HZ instead of 60 HZ oh and it's only going to cost $800 so
47:01
excited for that one 75 Hertz it's like it's basically 60 but you know okay well that's 5K that was the one thing that we
47:07
forgot to mention I think on the iPhone 16e no promotion oh no I did mention that so 60 HZ
47:14
only you know you know okay let's move on let's talk about the Vision Pro
47:20
Griffin's excited look at him he's glowing we got some big Vision Pro updates coming down the pipe oh my God
47:27
look at this picture it's a great picture that is okay
47:32
make uh the the picture is a picture that I used in a review or like some big
47:38
long article and I and I buried that picture like way at the very bottom of the article only as like oh if you you read the entire thing then you get that
47:45
weird looking picture of me wearing my Vision Pro with a headstrap thing but then rajes he just starts using that
47:50
picture as the lead image on all these stories about and why not yeah look at it it's a great picture anyways a
47:57
Bloomberg report details that Apple will bring its AI Suite of features to The Vision Pro with vision OS 2.4 in April
48:05
Apple Intelligence on the Vision Pro will bring the same features as seen on the iPhone iPad and Mac reading tools
48:10
gen mode G image playground uh this is my favorite line in the article none of these features
48:16
will drastically change how you use the mixed reality headset or significantly enhance its functionality however they
48:23
Mark Apple's first step in expanding its AI capabilities beyond the iPhone and Mac lineup sure yeah Vision OS 2.4 this
48:30
is what I'm really excited for will reportedly add a new app to view spatial content on the Vision Pro from other
48:35
sources and it will revamp guest mode giving you full control over the onboarding process from an iPhone so you
48:42
don't have to you know spend five minutes fussing around trying to figure it out on your Vision Pro before you
48:47
take it off and then oh yeah that was annoying yeah uh currently you can only manage
48:53
guest access on the headset itself and you only have two options like picking which apps people can access like you
49:00
can either pick the apps that are currently open or just give them unfettered access to your entire Vision Pro like yeah sure read my email and
49:06
messages like reportedly in Vision OS 2.4 you'll be able to like actually pick from a
49:13
list so that'll be nice are you excited about any of this stuff besides the uh the new guest
49:21
features you know I actually am a a little excited for the writing tools on the Vision Pro I do occasionally use
49:27
those just because it can if you've never used the the Apple intelligence writing tools uh there's a few things
49:35
that it's really great at with the latest update where you can describe a specific change you can be really precise with the changes you want like
49:42
uh in WordPress when we're on culc like the you know uh whatever thing in
49:50
WordPress always wants us to have like a certain percentage of like uh sentences written in active voice to increase the
49:56
readability of it and so I'll just like select random sentences and just bring up the writing tools and say make this
50:01
active voice because I don't entirely understand the difference but it just does it for me but you can also say make
50:08
this sentence title case if you want to like if you're writing a headline that's actually handy you
50:14
know it has a few tricks up its sleeve cool well when we get it on the actual
50:19
Vision Pro you'll have to give us another review and let us know if it improves The Experience I'm excited to
50:25
see what comes next for Pro hopefully they shrink it and integrate the battery
50:30
into it in some way where doesn't require having to carry a fanny pack but we shall see all right should we go
50:36
ahead and wrap up with the prediction game results now I'm feeling pretty good
50:43
from the clues that Griffin's been dropping during the show I think that I might have pulled away with this one
50:49
leis I don't want to make you I me it's the first time for everything right first time this week you
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mean so you can find a link in the show notes to bring up the prediction game results or you can go to DG Griffin
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jones.com it'll be the the first post there uh let's see the this is these are
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the results for the predictions we made last week before we knew what the event was really going to be or how many
51:12
products would even be there or what they would be at all so we knew maybe the least going into this one as we ever
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have yeah this was a tough one a super tough one starting with the iPhone
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section um we almost ran into an irritating Like
51:31
rules lawyer situation here because I wrote all of these predictions saying
51:37
updated iPhone SE iPhone SE has Dynamic Island iPhone SE has action button and camera control and we probably would
51:44
have debated for a while whether any of these picks are true or not because well
51:49
the iPhone SE isn't called the iPhone SE it's called the iPhone 16e yeah but luckily all of the predictions that I
51:55
wrote didn't come true anyways okay wow on that reference iPhone SE updated
52:01
iPhone SE comes in multiple fun colors no it comes in two colors and none of them are fun iPhone SE has a dynamic
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Island no it doesn't iPhone SE has action button and camera control no it doesn't iPhone SE costs $4.99 no it
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doesn't um I I correctly voted against a few of these uh Lewis and I both cor
52:22
predicted C1 ship no I'm not um airon correctly voted against having the
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camera control so at the end of the iPhone round I have three points Lewis has two points airon has one ahe that'll
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change so so I think I'm seeing a a a pattern here it's like I lost on the
52:43
iPhone predictions but you guys thought a bunch of other stuff was on the way and none of it happened which is how I won let's see okay let's move on to the
52:52
iPad section you may have noticed if you listened to the last 50 minutes of the show that we didn't talk about the
52:58
iPad that's because nothing happened with the iPad so let's see new iPad Air
53:03
is announced for an M4 chip I incorrectly thought that would happen airphone and Lewis voted against it new
53:09
iPad Air has face ID there's no new iPad Air new lowend magic keyboard announced nope 11th generation iPad announced nope
53:17
so out of that airon gets four points uh Lewis gets three points I get two points
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oh Lewis pulling ahead then we move on to the other products
53:29
section airon I'm just gonna jump the gun here airon gets seven points in this
53:34
section voting against everything uh Le and I incorrectly voted
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for an M4 MacBook Air I stupidly voted for a homepod with a screen Lewis I
53:46
don't know why I voted for air Tag 2 I incorrectly voted for a new Apple watch band colors so airon has seven points I
53:55
get four points Lewis gets five then we move on to the miscellaneous closer than I thought it
54:01
was going to be super close yeah I can't believe it you think it's close so far we move on to the miscellaneous category
54:07
um iOS 18.4 beta is released now according to Mark Gman I almost got a
54:15
point here almost because that's count half right 18.4 was supposed to release
54:22
on Tuesday but was delayed again along with the so technically won well
54:27
technically you didn't win but but I see your point like you you were on the path to to get it right and a last minute
54:33
flub caused me and Lewis to get the point wow okay didn't we already know that they were having problems with Siri though which is supposed to be like the
54:40
main Banner feature of this oh Siri is gonna be slightly smarter I think that
54:45
came out on like Sunday after we did the show I was I was absolutely convinced that iOS 18.4 was going to come out I
54:52
was thought oh I'm totally going to get a point here that two of you are going to lose lose a big must have been heartbreaking nope um Lewis incorrectly
55:01
predicted that uh the iPhone 16 would be carbon neutral uh we both incorrectly
55:07
predicted that there was going to be more announcements on other days of the week than Wednesday uh Aon and I get a point that
55:13
they released a keyot video but uh in this last section Aon gets four more points get I get two so the winner is
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that's got to be my highest score points Aron Lewis and I have 11 points
55:28
16e it all makes sense
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finally that's the bonus thing you guessed the actual name of the device well look I made sure that my score in
55:42
first initial match the first match the name of the phone that was intentional that was strategic four dimensional
55:48
chess for sure maybe five di you know I have to share this uh this trophy with
55:54
flark Sherman there was a single tweet that he released I think before we did the show basically saying nothing was
56:02
coming out but the iPhone and that positioned me to take it away because I
56:07
was like I I think that's probably true and I know that Mark gets stuff pretty pretty accurate when we're this close to
56:13
the release and that One Singular tweet it won me the gold so I'd like to share
56:19
this with Mark uhat I'm gonna message him afterwards and thank him congratulations
56:25
to the three listeners who scored 17 points Michael Dennis Chuck and now
56:31
two-time winner Shane Lo wow wow Bonkers so wait all three scored 17 points yeah
56:40
yeah that is that's really good uh here's what they had to say Michael Dennis says uh I I includeed on the form
56:47
like hey is there anything you want to plug on the show if you win yeah Michael Dennis wrote keep buying cult cloths
56:53
they're the best I knew I like this Michael Dennis guy he should have got more points Shane Lo says love the show
56:59
longtime listener I recently switched to a Samsung phone bring me on as a guest and we can talk about the experience
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okay let's do you have his IP address we need to get that banned right away I'll see if I can get that into the um the
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podcast uh Blacklist all right any other comments a prediction
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game okay um I definitely recognize these names in the form that that asked do you have
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anything you'd like to plug or put on the show Chuck wrote no okay that's what he wanted us to share his
57:30
pessimism there you go Chuck wow Bonker 17 points you know there's three of them
57:37
we should just hand over the Reign to them and let them do the show from now on something to consider at least for a product
57:43
announcement weeks all right well that was fun um and thank you all for participating don't forget you can send
57:49
us a text in the show notes if you want to send us a message it's super easy to do and we'll be reading those on the
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show as they you know come in so that would be fun to do that's it that's all the codcast we have for you guys this week but don't worry uh you can always
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time oh we just got a message that just came in look at this it
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says can you please talk about aon's workout regimen
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his buys and his tries are absolutely out of this world his pecs remind me of
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Terry Cruz how does he bounce up and down so fast wow you can see that from under my
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jacket you didn't get that one you should reinstall your app it must be not
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working on your phone oh never mind that was just a regular text message that came from
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Alexy Heat's mom my bad I got confused she does like to send me nice
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notes of that [Music]
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type it's a thing that she does what can I say you know she's so in love all
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right everyone that's it catch you next time bye
#Fun Tests & Silly Surveys