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Loads of iPhone 17 leaks — the good and the bad… (CultCast #688)
Mar 11, 2025
This week, we have a bunch of iPhone rumors: the ugly camera bump on the iPhone 17 Pro, its new Apple Wi-Fi chip and details on the folding iPhone coming next year! Plus, when the heck are we getting iOS 18.4, and the new M4 MacBook Air is finally incoming! Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 4:53 Incogni 10:33 iPhone 17 designs 19:34 iPhone 17 Wi-Fi chip 27:41 Folding iPhone 31:22 iOS 18.4 Beta 1 42:02 Visual Intelligence 44:21 MacBook Air M4
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why is it not working something seems to be missing oh there it
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is I'm not gonna assign Bland Lewis but all I'll say is you do need to see a
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doctor about that was weird uh I don't even have the stream
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loaded oh man it the little red bar at the bottom it went across and then
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across it was almost like a heartbeat monitor thing Sor oh my gosh new branding
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YouTube is now a slightly different shade of red did you notice it does appear to be a little bit brighter
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doesn't it are you kidding me it does look a little bit brighter to me God
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brighter red prob paid a staff of 124 million to investigate finally came up
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with the exact right hex color and at the at the very end of the playhead it'll at at the play bar when it reaches
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the very end it it it has a slight gradient from like a slightly different Shad of oh you're right
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G why oh my God it like turns to a like a
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pink color almost right at the very end that's interesting bunch of pinkos
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oh good what do you know here comes the here comes the slack messages hold on one second all right while you're doing that shout out to anth we got Tomas we
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got punk in D re I don't know what that says
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we got level remix here we got Quorum it's time to start the show oh man
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should I bring up some of these texts that people sent us even though I'm on the verge of going back to our previous
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podcast H oh god really dude the chap or doesn't work that's a big deal like it
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really sucks and there have been some other quirks too that I have had to navigate and I'm like okay this might be
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too much we'll um we'll see what happens but we do got a bunch of people who messaged us which was cool so maybe
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we'll keep it just for that reason we got Jonathan cusk here pump in drbl No
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Effects album oh okay pump in drbl punk in drbl punks sounds like something drunk
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people say it sounds like you're trying to say something but you're drunk and you can't Punk and Dr and Dr
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man what's wrong pump and Dr man all right or you're trying to drive
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or you're trying to say something to your tennis follow my drark oh my God they they start asking so many questions
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come on you and nine nine things of cotton gauze in my mouth and I can't answer your
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question right now shockingly they can understand throat
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enunciation also you don't need to ask I'm pretty sure you know that I'm not having a good day I'm at the dentist I
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don't yeah you know they're at the dentists every day I don't know if I can handle that
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job oh dude well once you see the once you see the paycheck too much freaking
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spittle and tartter flying around I'm not a big fan of other
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people's tartter flying around no that's vile in my opinion uh all right yanto 3000s here
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with a very aggressive Ola so I think it's time to I think it's time to move and we we got Dipsy Doo
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here sad day it looks like no screen on the camera bar I don't even know what that means I missing
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something looks like no screen on the camera bar he's talking about the iPhone 17 rumor that we'll get to in this all
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right let's go ahead and queue up Mrs you know who and we'll get this thing
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rolling oh Mrs d That's not Mr
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D she EXC today oh my dear I don't know if I can take this
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today I just want to say have a great show wow Mrs D that's
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fantastic just great I'll be listen make love to
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El there you go Louis well he's at the dentist why is at
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the dentist that's the really bad part he's at the dentist oh my goodness you're going to get him kicked out Mrs D
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maybe he's maybe he's got a doppelganger wouldn't that be weird two elanes running around one in the dentist one in
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the [Laughter] bu in the boir you say see Louis FS like
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he doesn't like it but I think secretly we know it's not true all right let's go ahead and get
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this thing rolling we got a lot of stuff to talk about uh in three
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two hello and welcome to the coasty best 30 plus app conversation you're going to hear
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all week long I'm your host Aon Li join me today he's been constructing an ornate chair with poles in each Corner
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that will make it easier for the CAC Riders to was and carry him around San Francisco when he's running errands and
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just going about the town he's the managing edor of CAC Lis Wallace is
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here I like that idea sounds great don't forget to get it gilded with gold you
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know the Final Touch also with this he's thinking about downgrading to the original iPhone since it has all the
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features he could ever need why would anyone need more than 2 megapixels in their camera can't argue with that Ryder
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c r ju is here good evening actually you can't
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downgrade to the original iPhone because AT&T shut down their 2G cellular service
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you can't use iPhone anymore no way my plans were foiled again I guess I'll just stick with my iPhone 16 2G gone
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forever huh when did that happen oh years ago yeah I think I remember maybe even talking about that I mean it make
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makes sense who who needs 2G although I thought maybe they would keep it around just like for like a Bare
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Bones connection if nothing else fails like you cannect Bea 2G but I guess it probably doesn't take many resources
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like you know just a single 56k modem on every cell tower how much can that cost yeah right all right everyone well we got a
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lot of stuff to talk about today uh let's see here we got some iPhone 17 Pro
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news to share I think we probably have some of our best um insights yet into what this phone is going to actually
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look like unfortunately many of you if not all of you are going to be listening but and actually we just found out the
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freaking my gosh our new podcast host doesn't support album artwork so
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previously and Griffin's been doing a great job with this he put images in the actual album artwork so that you guys
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can see what we're talking about even when you're just listening and that's not working right now so I don't know what we're going to do like we may have
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to go back to our old host because of this there's no way we could have known and so we're trying to figure that out
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so if you want to see what we're talking about you can always go to watch.the cast.com all of our uh previous episodes
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are there and you know you can check out or read the culc stories in the in the in the sh notes yeah or that obviously
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that's another great route to go and so I don't know what we're going to do it's
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or just read culac every single day and then you'll already be familiar with the stories when we talk to them they probably already do that so they
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probably already have in their minds what the phone's going to look like we're just filling in the gaps here uh we're going to talk more about Apple's
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new Wi-Fi chip and how that's going to integrate into the iPhone 17 we've got some Intel on Apple's folding phone that
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I think that you're going to like this is great news for me Griffin's going to tell us about the new features and
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changes in iOS 18.4 beta 1 oh man there's a big list here holy moly
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there's a lot of stuff uh Lewis has got some news about Apple Intelligence coming to your older iPhones you're
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going to be so excited to finally get to use apple intelligence your life's about to change and we have new Intel on the
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M4 MacBook Air that I think you're going to lie it's not getting Intel it's
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getting an apple silicon well touche well we can't know until it gets
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released maybe that will be the surprise surprise here's the new Pentium Core 2
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about iPhone 17 Lewis look at these new oh the new we
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have this is it man look how huge that camera hump is uh
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supposing CAD drawings in the entire iPhone 17 lineup recently leaked out possibly giving the world its best look
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yet at Apple's entire 2025 I think this is it man lineup MH all appear in an
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image post on social media by Majin bu I like the way you put some flare on
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that yeah you know I do what I can uh Apple intends to significantly expand the camera hump in the iPhone 17 Pro
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Models according to these uh fine fine CAD drawings rather than only being around the three camera lenses the hump
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will supposedly extend across the wind of the handset which we've talked about before and actually is kind of good
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looking I think it looks way better better than just a half like
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completely uh lopsided camera hump you get get a full camera hump yeah it goes
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across the entire experience which I think looks so much better side side to side yeah and it'll make it uh that way
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it only it won't Teeter as much either right because you won't have that what how how thick is that camera HP now about an inch and a half well I haven't
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measured but eyeballing at two to three inches in thickness ah let's see uh
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because the lenses will stay in the same configuration as the iPhone 16 Pro Models that little triangle you're used to the hump will occupy about quarter of
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the back of the devices as you can see well if you can see you can see it's just a big thick band basically just
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extending the the camera hump all the way across side to side uh Mark Gman you
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might have heard of him he's a reporter is he an editor now he just got a big I
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did see that congratulations to Mark well deserved but is is he related to flark Sherman the uh the journalist we
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typically get insights from okay uh yeah from mova
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let's see uh Gman says that Apple's focusing on improving the video recording capabilities of the phone
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though he did not elaborate on what the enhancements will be uh company's main goal with these
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upgrades is make video creators and vloggers ditch their existing dedicated camera setups and switch to an iPhone I
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know man instead it's a tough sell uh we've heard this before too Al
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May ditch the Pro Models titanium edges for aluminum parts of the back in these cads are rendered uh into two different
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colors because supposedly part of the back panel will be aluminum but the rest will be glass so I that part of these
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cads is very like it just throws you off it looks weird the red part looks like
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what what are they doing what are they thinking but um you know I mean I'm the one thing I'm sure about with apple is
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that if they make it it'll it'll look good they they'll find a way to make that look attractive I'm kind of looking
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forward to like the most of the back being aluminum instead of glass or at least the area around the cameras
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because I don't know I've been looking at my camera bump recently on my iPhone 16 Pro and like I don't think the 3D
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glass effect is very attractive I'll be honest like that you know how you have like
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the the the camera has like a sort of like table that the lenses sit on that's like carved out of the glass as well I
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don't really think it's a good look like I've been looking at older phones like my iPhone like an iPhone 10 that I have in my collection and like having like
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the Metal Ridge around the camera I think is much more attractive I I like that look so yeah do you mean do you
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mean like the glass back of the phone or or do you mean like that glass that's around the camera lenses the glass
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that's around the camera lenses I totally agree yeah I totally agree and I hate how asymmetrical it is I really
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just don't love it and I think it would look a lot better with having a solid nodule that goes all the way across or
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like a capsule a capsule leis that goes all the way across got an example iPhone
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10 here for the people watching like the Metal Ridge around the top you know on the camera bump I mean first of all it's
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a lot smaller but yeah I just think it's how tiny that is that's Bonkers yeah look at that she mirror finish too
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holy moly you can brush your teeth in that thing I don't know why you need to look in the mirror when you prush your teeth
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this was never my personal phone I never had an iPhone 10 I stupidly stuck onto my like iPhone 7 plus for way too long
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but man every time I pick this up I'm like I mean this this was this was just
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Peak iPhone right here it's perfect size in the hand I kind of like the rounded edges you know the the glass is still
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tacky on the back so it doesn't just like slip and slide out of your fingers very comfortable fun very
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comfortable hey you know good uh segue real fast into one of our um comments
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that people texted us so you'll notice in the show notes there's an option to text us now and a bunch of you did so
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that was fun and someone from Texas they didn't leave their name and they say I
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hate to disappoint you guys looking down your noses at us lower price Point peasants try saying
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that I'm not disappointed don't worry but this is being sent from an iPhone
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7 I have a second generation SE in reserve when I give this up when I give
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up this awesome iPhone 7 I do like to keep up with what's new and coming down the pike I mainly use icatcher for my
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200 podcast 200 podcasts wow uh music YouTube weather stuff Twitter websites
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yes I'm holding on to my home button from a peasant truck driver who according to at least some of you
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guys doesn't listen to your show I can't help but think he's talking about me I I
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may have come across a little bit negative on the iPhone 16e last week we got other comments to that effect I'm
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I'm not like disapp I'm my negativity mostly stems from the fact that I'm sad
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that people like this listener aren't getting a better phone with mag safe I
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you know I'm I'm upset on behalf of the people not at the people I'm a man of the people I want I want I
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want the masses the the teenagers who have parents buy their phones for them the old people out there everybody who
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gets a work issued phone I want them to get a great phone and I'm my my anger at the iPhone 16e is mostly at the fact
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that they're not getting as great of a phone as they I think yeah same here I'm not mad at this person like I mean look
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obviously we all tend to upgrade more often maybe than other people might
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otherwise do because like we want to like play with stuff and talk about on the show and stuff but I know there's a lot of people that
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keep their devices forever now that's not me I love having like the newest
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stuff and and even I don't upgrade nearly as often as like a lot of Apple people in the media do like there are a
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lot of people who literally upgrade all their devices every single year which cost them you know tens of thousands of dollars I wish I was in that boat but
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I'm like I don't need to upgrade my iPad every year and I don't think that the amount of money it would cost
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would be worth the limited amount of content we would be be able to get from it like I feel like you could just go look at it
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in the Apple Store a few times and you kind of get the gist you know because they're not making so many updates that you need to own the thing for a year to
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be able to talk about it so yeah no hate no hate from us I mean look all are welcome here obviously I'm just
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surprised because this is like an apple Enthusiast podcast and I just so I just
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kind of Presumed everyone listening was constantly upgrading all their stuff because we're that's what we're always
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talking about but you know if you're holding on God bless you hold on to that iPhone of and I'm surprised that thing
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still works yeah that that's getting back there that's pretty far back that's
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that's you know one phone after the iPhone 6 and the iPhone 6 is one they went with the bigger screen two phones
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after the iPhone 6 the the 6s I did it success I did forget about the success
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that's why I'm here with you all right look um maybe we'll read
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some more of these comments if you want to leave um leave us a comment it's in
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the show notes at the very top send us a text you can send it right from your phone or your iPad or whatever send it while you still can while we still have
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this particular I don't think we're going to change but did we talk about this pre-show I don't even remember if
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it was pre-show or if we got it in during the recording but like on the show it was like it was like moments ago how do I not remember that um we may end
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up going back to another to our old podcast house or to a different one because the album art or the chapter art
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is not working the way we wanted to man it's always something man it's always something all right let's see what do we
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got going on next all right Griffin you want to talk about since we're talking about iPhone 17 the Wi-Fi
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chip the much hued Wi-Fi chip yeah so Apple has long relied on
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broadcom for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth modules for iPhones iPads and Macs with Apple's growing taste for developing in-house
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chips it plans to replace broadcom's Wi-Fi module with its own with this iPhone 17 lineup uh analyst Ming CH quo
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said on Thursday that all 2 H25 whatever that's just the term he
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uses all iPhone 17 models will feature Apple's in-house Wi-Fi chips however only the iPhone 17 you
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know air the the slim model we don't know exactly what it's going to be called only that slim model will have
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the C1 modem Beyond construction the switch to in-house Wi-Fi chips will enhance connectivity across Apple
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devices so as with apple C1 modem which debut in the iPhone 16e Apple's first gen Wi-Fi radio might
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not offer like you know significantly better performance or new technological
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breakthroughs it'll be you know just a standard Wi-Fi 7 chip really but it'll probably be much more power efficient
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and it might add that special sauce between Apple devices to enhance
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their continuity features like you can't use a lot of different continuity
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features simultaneously with each other like if you're you're using Wireless carplay then you can't AirPlay anything
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or like you can't airdrop weird limitations like that if you're using iPad side car then you can't use iPhone
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mirroring like side car you don't use that on a regular
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basis leis forgot it existing I think there's like other
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Vision Pro limitations like if you're using Mac virtual display then you can't use iPhone miroring or whatever but presumably if Apple's making their own
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chips they might be able to uh you know introduce new features and make it more powerful that would be awesome it'll
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make it better and then the EU can talk about how terrible it is and find regul it away yeah oh it has to work with
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every crappy Android phone ever made and every iPhone ever made forget about that
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well that's good I mean I'm not surprised to hear that Apple's planning on using their new fancy Wi-Fi chip
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across all their phones I'm I was surprised to hear that that that was not going to be what they did because why
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wouldn't they use it for every single phone forever going forward so it's not surprising for me to hear that they're
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going to be using it everywhere although we did hear that it was going to be uh iPhone 17 air only uh did you read any
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of those iPhone 16e reviews I mean people were talking about the battery like when was like oh yeah I used it for like an hour what and it like went down
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didn't even go down 1% it's like it sounds like the battery life is astonishing I guess due to that
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C1 I do I did hear that it was more but I also when people do battery life tests
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it's like they're comparing often times a new device with a device that's been around for six or seven months and it's like okay well you know not exactly like
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if you wanted to do a fair test you'd start with all brand new devices right with all brand new batteries which no one ever does hey you also can't do that
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because that the first day you set it up it does like Spotlight indexing and all these extra setup background tasks so
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it's not really representative either that's that's that's true oh man can I tell you guys something this is going to
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make you guys hate me this this a you mean
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this is the tent I'm gonna tell you something that is gon to make you all hate me I got but I'm GNA tell you it
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because it's something that I was thinking about yesterday I got a replacement MacBook
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Pro exact same specs got the silver and I was looking
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at that beautiful silver MacBook Pro last night and I thought to myself don't love the
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color oh my God kind of missed the space black if I'm being honest but the thing
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is I'm not I'm not returning it I dare you to take it back and go I don't like this color I want the other color
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they're gonna have my picture on the wall you remember me that'll be it I I would burn my sources like the discounts
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people people offering me discount I'll never get another discount again I dude it's just the space gray is just the
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perfect shade it's it's the silver and The Black Keys I feel like are are are
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too contrasty and the space black is too little contrast
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the space gray is just perfect like that's really just what I want but unfortunately that's not an option so
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I'm not going to return it I'm going to just I'm going to just go with the flow from now on but I did think that was funny I was like I can't believe I'm
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feeling this way now now I'm missing the space black and thinking that I don't love this color just think about the
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fingerprint just think about the finger well that is true that is true clean it every 30 seconds yeah that that that
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space back was such a fingerprint magnet it was um I I could love with it I couldn't love with it I think you should
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get like one of those wraps and have it just you know like red white and blue Go full like Captain America you mean like
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those those shells that people put on their MacBook Pros yeah yeah you know
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what I'll temper my reaction to that not me not something I would enjoy doing L did he get a 11inch iPad as well I
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haven't replaced that yet I probably will but at this point I'm just using
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this one device and and yeah man I was just looking at it last night and I was like you know you
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know the thing that I loved about the space black I don't know if I mentioned this and we're kind of going off the rails here uh is it put my eyes at EAS
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this the silver is so reflective that I just find like my eyes are a little bit
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more strained when I'm looking at it just because the all the light is being reflected back at your face whereas with the space black it was so it was so
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blacked out that you just got very little reflection and so it made it easier to like look at the
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machine but I don't know man I I I can't be pleased oh the other thing I wanted
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to mention because someone commented on this and I thought this was actually a great observation they were like I can't
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believe you would be so much of a d that you would use someone's discount and
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then return it and just leave them you know so which I I would agree with you
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if that were the case but I before I made the purchase I confirmed like two or three times I'm like look I'm not
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sure if I'm going to keep this stuff cuz like this is a big experiment if I buy this stuff and return it like do you use
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lose your discount and the person said actually no when you return something an employee purchase the discount goes back
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to them so you don't lose anything so that person was restored they were made whole otherwise I absolutely would have
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just kept it so I did think about that ahead of time because I was like that would be a huge jerk move to like use your discount and be like yeah sorry bro
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didn't like it good with your discount wait I just had a brain wave yeah wow
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live here on the show you get this face black one ambulance okay but then you
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don't wipe any of the fingerprints off of it you just let the fingerprints build up and build up and gradually the
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color of the computer will lighten until it becomes space gray you might be a genius I had not considered that a
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beautifula of Grease iridescent iridescent gray it's like it changes
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colors depending on the angle that you look at it a murky uh pond with oil on
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the top of it murky murky oil spill gray okay something to think about and
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it's funny because I spent so much time in the Apple store looking at the silver looking at the space black going back and forth they must have thought I was
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totally insane I was like literally putting the machines together and like I had my face inches from the actual
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MacBooks and I'm going back and forth going back and forth dude you are definitely on a list I should have just
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stuck Stu with it uh let's see here you should just go get a can of spray paint man yeah space gray spray paint yeah
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that's a great suggestion L I'm gonna do that have that at Lowe's right space gr yeah you can buy on Amazon uh you know
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what moving on to actual Apple news I thought you all might enjoy this bit of
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news I thought this was great news one of the reasons why I wasn't well let me
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rephrase this one of the things I was leery about with Apple's you know upcoming folded iPhone and I don't know
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if you've used a folded phone is they all have like these really horrible ugly
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creases on the screens when you unfold them that you have to look at when you're while you're interacting with
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your screen well apparently that may not be something you'll have to worry about
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with Apple's folding phone I guess we shouldn't be surprised but they' they've somehow figured this out this is coming
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from the information uh they indicated that Apple would never make a folding phone with an
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unsightly screen crease and apparently they finally solved that problem quote Apple has started preparation to produce
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a foldable iPhone reported ET news I guess they had to translate this apple
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is said to have significantly improved the display crease which was considered the biggest drawback of foldable
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smartphones now that just significantly decreased not removed so the Breakthrough comes out of Samsung
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display which will be displaying or supplying the photable panels to Apple which is funny because their phones are
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the ones that full then they look pretty horrible um this most recent report from
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ET news and one from the Wall Street Journal in December both said Apple had picked a book style design oh
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interesting okay which in which I always think of it being um folded horizontally not vertically in which the folding
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phone opens in what is essentially a small iPad dude see how thick this thing is the
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screen will be supposedly be bigger than the 6.9 inch iPhone 16 Pro Max uh
29:28
another of Apple's design goals aside from not having a screen crease is that the device be no thicker than a current
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iPhone wow just keep reading the anwers just come dude that would be pretty
29:40
insane to release a device that's no thicker than a regular iPhone and yet also folds I don't know how they would
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pull that out pull that off uh with the problem of the iPhone crease now overcome overcome apple is allegedly
29:52
ramping up to put the phone into production what do you think leou I I see you starting to sweat is that
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excited perspiration I don't I I just while you were doing this uh I searched up uh Samsung's ultra thin glass
30:07
Innovation and and they have a video about it which I'm definitely going to watch after this I how can it be glass
30:13
how can it Bend I don't get it I'm so confused yeah bending glass man that
30:18
doesn't break and I'll I mean what is it glass on these other I I always thought it was
30:24
like a plastic screen on I think that they were all plastic yeah because plastic can obviously Bend easier than
30:29
glass dude what is this I'm getting like are you guys getting spam through Skype
30:35
for like crypto stock that has been happening to me nonstop the whole show
30:41
I've been getting it people keep first of all how do they know my Skype information it's just I guess they just
30:48
Spam out everyone gotta call incog there you go I got a sick incog on them I
30:53
didn't tell you guys about the last step in incog whereas like if they can't if the people don't respond to the letters
30:58
they send several large men out to their house or operations to solve the problem permanently I like it
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yeah it's called incog White Glove service you know it's included with the
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plan that's a joke by the way don't sue me um let's see here all right there's
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all your Apple Hardware news should we move on and talk about
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iPhone IOS 18.4 beta 1 look at all this stuff oh my God there's so many words so
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much stuff in here Griffin pick and choose what's the best stuff okay so Apple relased the first
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iOS 18.4 beta it brings many changes and apple intelligence features though the
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revamped Siri is still missing uh so I'll I'll try and make this as quick as
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I can priority notifications this is the uh feature where if you receive a series
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of important notifications it gives them like a special like bright pink like pallet on your lock screen to highlight
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them uh I'm running the iOS 18.4 beta but I haven't received any priority
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notifications yet I guess I don't get anything important on my phone but supposedly that's you're just not a
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priority to them yeah yeah yeah um Apple intelligence is now coming to French
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German Italian Portuguese Spanish J Japanese Korean Chinese and uh
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additional localizations of English uh Apple intelligence is now coming to the European Union uh which
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will go hand inand with the additional languages that it supports um Good Luck to all of you out
32:37
there in Europe iOS 18.4 beta 1 adds a new style in image playground called
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sketch so this was previously available in notes if you used their um like you
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know image wand thing or you know if you use image playgrounds within the notes app but now you can create sketches from
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uh the image playground app and I've created uh some images of the three of
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us which I will now send I was like are they Hearing in our slack oh good no I
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don't know I don't know why but oh my gosh oh my God for some reason when you use the
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sketch style first of all it makes everybody look like a dad so is just
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like a dad version of me and it gives everybody a light blue button- down shirt see this is why we need the
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chapter artwork Griffin like I can make I can make this the episode artwork I'll make special episode I'll bring I'll
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bring this up this is like the image you see this is like the image you would see
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of like a '90s reporter Wall Street Journal uh I was thinking same thing I was thinking more like post office
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wall let's see if I can open these G Griffin you're like crossy and Buck Dee
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oh my God took like 70 IQ points off of you I look like me I oh my God okay I'm
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going I'm going to open these one at a time here I look like a serial killer a balding serial killer unbel your face is
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so intense for no reason I look like I'm like 65 you look like River Phoenix is as
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Joker someone in the chat saying John Syra Phoenix is what was that guy's name godang it
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uh uh walk walk Phoenix Griffin looks like uh an inbred
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14-year-old yeah it's I mean that doesn't even look like him who's slightly cross
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40 and and here we got Lewis who looks like the guy who was trying to sell the
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dinosaur eggs in Jurassic Park just wasn't he also Newman in the
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uh in side Feld I it makes me Hispanic or something doesn't it yeah you do look
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like oh look it makes you look more Italian I think I mean I got to say it's an upgrade for me but uh you know and
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for the first time an apple intelligence actually thinks that I have some hair on the top of my head every other one I
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look like freaking it adds hair to everybody unless you're like completely bald it adds a bit of hair to the top of
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your head why is my G so intense like a full head of hair every one of those
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other stupid image playground things that I've ever done even if it's a picture of me where I clearly have like
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almost like you know like ridiculous amount of hair on top it still makes me bald like complet like like and not bald
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bald like old man like fluffy on the side bald which I'm getting there but I
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mean it's it's like predictive AI garbage it's all garbage who wants any of this crap ah no matter what image you
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give to it about of anybody it always puts them in like business level clothes
35:56
and usually a light blue BL color I don't I don't know why is that part of the prompt or what but I don't know man
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it makes me look like God uh I mean look at all the lines on my face I have like
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an abnormal amount of wrinkling going on here looks like I've just been like
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sunbathing in New Mexico for 50 years while smoking cigarettes God all right this is the
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worst yet I mean thanks for that nightmare fuel there Griffin you're welcome you're welcome who's in charge
36:26
of this crap what what's her name they put her in charge like a month ago no no she's supposed to fix Siri right or was
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was she supposed to fix is in charge God
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anyways uh Apple intelligence is now available on the Vision Pro so you can
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create lovely images like these uh from your face computer I'd love to see that
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large and and just like way more lifelike mhhm it's kind of NE I I actually
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created these on my Vision Pro and it's kind of neat how like the interface has like a little bit of 3D elements to it like when you're an image playground and
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you have like these like floating cloud Graphics of things playing around like those are in 3D and that's a little neat
37:10
I suppose I'm glad that you own The Vision Pro because I feel like you have time to actually use it like if I would
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have kept mine I just don't think I would have the time to invest in playing around with all this stuff and my wife
37:23
was so annoyed every time I put that thing on that I don't think I could have ever worn it in the the house because
37:28
she just felt like it completely disconnected me from everything that was going on in the house and then she would just have to be like the only parent so
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I think it's good that like you do it because like you can just sit there in your living room no one bothers you MH
37:42
no there's no kids demanding that their teeth be brushed or their butts be wiped at least not that I know of and so you
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can just sit around and play around with these features and eventually I'm G to buy another one I think it doesn't freak
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the dogs out too much right my dog didn't care really I kind of wish that it it turned on the
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eyesight feature for my dogs because it it makes me feel a little sad that like they can't see my eyes I wish I wish it
38:06
worked for them but it w it doesn't do that because they're not human around them yeah yeah really yeah they're Doggs
38:13
what if you dress the dog up in an outfit H if you put a little hat on the dog little they my dogs hate Co or extra
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stuff on them anyways more features uh yeah especially for the Vision Pro Apple
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add a new Vision Pro app to the iPhone to control the new guest mode feature it'll provide tips and help you download
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Vision OS apps and content so you can set up guest mode without using the Vision Pro itself neat handy thing that
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actually sounds useful yeah I'm gonna skip a few things here iOS 18.4 this is a big one will add
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a new food section to Apple news plus it'll contain stories surrounding restaurants healthy food and give you a
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bunch of recipes from all over the internet you know you ever go to like a recipe website online and you have to
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skip past author's life story what is bacon yeah exactly uh the history of
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bacon you I I've looked through this and like the recipes are pretty neat it has
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like you know really clean cut recipes like all the ingredients all the instructions great pictures and it kind
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of has like this special mode you can enter as you're cooking that's like the lyrics view on Apple music where It'll
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like go step by step and tell you to like you know oh de this now do this now do that it has like buttons where you
39:30
can just stuff like that how does it Advance if if it's scrolling down well you
39:35
scroll it yourself when you're done with each step but too bad you can't do that with your eyes rather than your you know greasy
39:46
fingers possibly yeah that that is a doubt maybe you know maybe this will be coming to The Vision Pro too and it'll
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be integrated that way I'm excited about this thing I I I love the uh New York Times what's it called nyt cooking app
39:59
yeah uh how do it how's it compare to that you ever Ed that I used the nyt cooking app it's just good because it's
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not a bunch of garbage you know like everything every website destroyed by
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SEO crappy writing and uh yeah the New York Times it's great it's they deliver
40:18
great recipes very great you know it's like the Apple news app in that it's
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nicely designed and not cluttered with ads and just like built the way that the app ought to be built right because
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somebody actually paid for it rather than ads paying for it yeah yeah so I'm browsing through right now they have
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recipes by like the Wall Street Journal uh food and wine delish National
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Geographic Epicurious bone Appetit a lot of great websites it's a pretty handy interface
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I'll write a how-to on it uh when I eventually have time for it pretty neat all right what else Griffin so uh
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we can call it there 18.4 coming in April coming in April I think I just
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downloaded it today so coming to my the beta track I thought you uh I go back and forth so
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like once once the iOS is established and released I usually switch to the beta at that point because then you get
41:16
the updates faster right what I don't love is trying a new um an entirely new
41:23
version of iOS so like iOS 19 right or whatever because that's the one that's
41:28
always super buggy that bricks everything and makes nothing work like once it's released then I'm like oh now
41:34
it's totally time to to do the beta because it's safe like they're not going to release they usually don't release features that break anything it's always
41:40
repairs at that point or features that you get first so I do like
41:46
that all right um I still have that thousand yard serial killer stare from
41:52
my image seared into my brain my go just sitting there staring
41:57
at me in slack I could barely look at it so creepy uh let's see here Lewis do you
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want to talk about a new feature since we're talking about new features leis new feature coming to everyone else's
42:09
well people who didn't upgrade to the iPhone 16 yeah got some love coming through way this is actually kind of
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nice uh if you remember when the uh 16e came out it's like oh it doesn't have a
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camera button or I'm sorry excuse me camera control yeah and I was like well how's it going to have you know visual
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intelligence well they just moved it to the action button right and and that's
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like well why can't iPhone 15 Pro have it it has an action button and no camera well they're moving it there so uh it's
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coming in the near future realistically is uh think Ed wrote that I don't know who wrote this for us but realistically
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there's no reason why the artificial intelligence feature shouldn't have been added to Apple's 2023 models of the
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debut of iOS 18 uh if you don't know about it I mean visual intelligence you
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use the camera control or in this case the action button uh to identify things you know like I was using the other day
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when I hike you can point it at uh plants it tells you what the plant is you point it at your cat it'll tell you
43:10
what what what breed of cat or whatever um it also does things I have never tried this yet but I think if you see
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like a a flyer for an event you can use that to add it to your calendar right
43:22
isn't that one of the features of MH visual intelligence so it's it's actually one of the more
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actually helpful Tools in apple intelligence and so for iPhone 15 Pro to
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not have it was kind of a slap in the face anyway the face has been UNS
43:39
slapped Apple's ban special features into the regular camera and gets it kind
43:45
of crowded like if you want to copy text out of a book or like a poster like using live text it's kind of finicky to
43:51
do that in the camera and I like using visual intelligence like specifically for that like you know or scanning QR
43:57
codes extra extra stuff that the camera you know isn't very good at
44:04
doing yeah so um that's actually good news I mean Apple's doing the right thing making this available to people
44:09
who have a phone that's capable of doing it the iPhone 15 Pro and uh just don't
44:14
happen to have that one special button yeah which is fine you know fantastic as
44:19
long as you get it all right well this is what y'all been waiting for is it I
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think so I've heard so many people say they're excited about this people want to know about the M4 MacBook Air when
44:32
it's coming and you know what I might be a partaker of the M4 MacBook Air oh come
44:38
on not for me though what color probably come in space gray I think it does come
44:43
in space c just to taunt you dude I love the MacBook Air if I could just get away with a MacBook Air I probably could you
44:50
can get away with a Macbook a it's very capable at editing video not with my plant it's got big plans but you're
44:57
probably right if the plans never come to fruition in particularly the M4 MacBook Air would be all I would ever
45:03
need video I know I know I know that's what I'm saying so but my wife I think
45:11
may need a new Macbook Air so I bought her this is one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made I bought her a MacBook
45:17
Air I think maybe two years ago I got her the M1 but I got the 8 GB Ram
45:22
version cuz I thought it would be enough for her it was the base model 250 6 gigs of storage 8 gab of ram nothing but
45:30
hassles with that thing she's like talking to me the other day she's like can you try to clear some space on my
45:36
Mac I keep running out of space I keep getting error messages I mean What a Sad
45:41
pathetic machine wow I I just I I mean shame on Apple for releasing something
45:48
that is not even appropriate for Bas level users truly it should never have
45:53
been sold or least it should not have been sold for as long as it was I mean she's getting error messages all she does is use like Google Docs you know
46:01
error messages about what that she's out of RAM and now she's running out of storage and so like there's not enough like page
46:07
dis space and like all sorts of weird stuff and now we're having to like constantly move content off of her
46:14
machine and delete stuff and am I being too harsh I mean who is this machine designed for if not for someone who's
46:21
not a power user and uses mostly Google Docs and just does some like light editing uh like word doc editing and
46:27
stuff every once in a while who's this machine made for I don't know and so now I'm thinking okay
46:37
well how many times do I want to how much time do I want to spend constantly offloading content off her machine right
46:43
so and the other big problem is that there's no way to control how much storage space the photos app takes I
46:49
mean it's one of those you know magical app Apple features that quote unquote just works but you can't Define how much space you want it to take up that would
46:56
that that that's a if I were a product manager on the Apple team the photos team that would be one of the first that
47:01
would be the top of my of of my backlog it's like dude we need to add a limit to this so people can say how much space
47:07
they want it to take because otherwise it just takes up a ton of space and so
47:12
and there's no there's no way to clear photos from iCloud off your device the only way to do it that I know of is to
47:18
actually wipe your device even if you log out of iCloud photos on your device
47:25
it still won't delete photos from your device like the stuff that you just delete the photo library that's in your
47:30
home folder pictures well I guess that might work actually but you got to make sure
47:36
Library file yeah that you that you sign out of iCloud photos first um otherwise
47:42
that's going to delete stuff from your iCloud photo library that's actually a good suggestion I should try that and see if that actually fixes it because I
47:49
don't because if you do that you sign out of iCloud delete the file and then you sign back into iCloud it will only
47:55
download a like a small selection of photos because I think what happens is as you use your Mac to upload photos to
48:02
iCloud the things that you put onto your Mac like the photos the videos they just stay on your Mac and I don't know that
48:09
those actually ever get deleted it seems like they don't anyway so now I'm sitting here thinking okay she's getting
48:15
all these error messages she keeps running out of space it's it's maybe time to upgrade well I don't want to get
48:21
her at M2 MacBook Air right or or or an
48:27
M3 so it's probably good to wait well here you go my friends rumors that the
48:33
M4 is that enough Preamble for you rememberers that the M4 MacBook Air will launch in early 2025 well they better
48:39
hurry up early is almost over have been circulating for a few months inventory of existing M3 MacBook airs is running
48:46
low in retail channels Bloomberg's flark Sherman we all know them we all love
48:51
them now editor-in Chief soon to be um you know owner of Bloomberg
48:57
he is reporting in his latest newsletter that Apple has started preparing its Marketing sales and Retail teams for the
49:02
debut let's see here like the iPhone 16e Apple will likely just announce this via
49:08
a press release and the M4 line of MacBook Air is probably not going to have any flashy
49:15
whizbang features it's going to just be a refresh with a spec bump but what a spec bump right going to be a big spec bump and the play may be to get the M3
49:24
on refurb cuz they're going to drop the price said the referb and that's going to be a super cheap machine and the
49:30
referb MacBook Air is is going to be a great a machine for years to come the M4 is going to be a huge leap forward just
49:37
like it was in the MacBook I I feel like you'll want to get the M4 you probably will you probably will but but the one
49:43
thing you definitely got to get is 16 gigas of ram just do not go with eight
49:48
it is abysmally bad um and even for you
49:53
know quote unquote regular users it seems to not enough and they all come with 16 gigs of
49:59
RAM now except for the yeah but they have refb yeah but they have refurbs that still have the 8 gigs so I would
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definitely not leave those to the to to to the uninformed you're listening to
50:11
this program you you know better right you know that it's not going to it's not going to do what you need to do and it's
50:17
not going to have the longevity I I wish I would have just spent the money but I had never owned an 8
50:24
gigabyte MacBook Air I don't think before this I don't know if I have or or I
50:30
don't think that I did and I can't believe how many problems we're having um it's just non-stop error messages so
50:38
and you may not notice it when you're when you have a ton of hard disk space available but once you start running low
50:44
that's when you really start having issues because it it runs out of hard dis space to offload RAM and then you
50:50
get Aros Galore which is also going to be the name of the new 007 movie Man
50:57
speaking of the new7 movie did you guys hear that Amazon got all rights
51:02
to7 and um then Jeff Bezos taking inspiration from Elon Musk went on
51:08
Twitter and was like who should the next devil7 be who do you guys who do you guys think that people were
51:14
picking was it you I was I was in the mix that was one of the suggestions by
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me I don't know if I could pull off7 I don't know if I've got the the7 energy I
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do like to kicken doors and drink martinis but I think he got to be buffer and
51:31
maybe more Suave come on no guesses and also English which you are Nota he was he was one of the picks I
51:38
think he'd be a great pick there's something there's someone you for a long time you know who I'd
51:44
like to see yeah Peter Capaldi he'd be fantastic Peter kapal Doctor Who yes not
51:51
just any doctor whichever doctor I don't even know who that Peter Capaldi oh he's fantastic one of one of the finest
51:58
actors you know what he's got A7 Look to Him yeah okay so he's like one of the
52:04
older he almost certainly would not accept the role because he quit Doctor Who after three seasons because it was
52:09
like you know too physically straining for him so I can't imagine him oh my God Doctor Who was too straining too much of
52:16
a strain yeah I don't think he's G be up for you do a lot of running on Doctor Who do you okay uhuh let's see so who
52:24
else was the oh man I'm spacing on on his name I'm trying to pull this up um oh yeah Henry caval Henry
52:32
caval he's my he's my pick man I think he just makes way too much sense
52:38
actually I would be happy with him Henry caval played Superman and has also been
52:44
in all sorts of other roles The Witcher um I think how about Matthew
52:51
[Laughter] Barry dude that actually could work that could actually work Matthew Barry even
52:58
though he's probably about 300 a quar pounds um he's got the aura for it man
53:05
he's got he's got the7 energy if they ever wanted to make like A7 spoof series I mean he's your guy he's your
53:13
guy by the way before we wrap up here I just want to say someone in the chat said something that I think might be one
53:19
of the most true things that has ever been spoken in the chat Bon I don't know if he's still here The Leftovers is the
53:25
most amazing show that no one has seen I think that's true I haven't met
53:30
very many people that have seen it but it is one of the best shows I have ever seen and I was thinking like maybe it
53:36
was just me but then Griffin saw it and Griffin greed and a lot of people a lot of people in the cult Club if you're a
53:42
paid member at support.the cc.com they've been watching it and like we've convinced a lot of people to watch this
53:47
show and they go in this in the Discord and they're like man that was one of the best shows ever like we've been talking
53:53
about it it the cult Club at this point is really just an unofficial the left over his fan Discord that's right that's
53:58
all we talk about in there um yeah one of the best show Innings that I've ever seen it just had one of like the most
54:05
cathartic show endings that has been on you know like any television or anything
54:12
and I just can't believe they were able to pull it off the way that they did and dude so many great cameos I don't want to spoil anything like especially like
54:19
in season 3 there is a cameo by a person who used to be on a popular show in I
54:24
think maybe the late 80s early 90s I don't know if this dude's been in anything since then but all of a sudden
54:31
he's like in this show in like this really great role as well I don't want
54:37
to give anything away anyway so we go ahead and wrap it up there I think maybe that's it my friends
54:44
that's all the cold cast we have for you guys this week but you know what the fun
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continues as driffin Jones eloquently put it in the cult Club support.
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cast.com support. cast.com I don't think anyone's been kicked out since we made that change did did has anyone been
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kicked out no so we may have actually fixed it or uh Cult of 95m rumors.com
55:08
and of course you can also send us a text which will be reading some of your text um going forward on future shows as
55:14
long as we don't abandon our current web host or uh podcast house which we have no immediate plans to do we'll see how
55:20
this goes but the chapter art being missing there's a huge slap in the face uh let's see here this has been the
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codcast the best 30 plus minute Apple conversation you're going to hear all week long new episodes of the codcast come out every Thursday night well thank
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everyone for listening I went up like an inch when I said that the but the old buns on that one really hit that note thank for listening bringing out
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laugh and we'll see you guys next time is that TMI
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Griffin oh man rip Jee Hackman that could be a
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whole cast off topic Callin fth oh no thank you I don't think we can do Callin
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F [Music] for7 no no no hug
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Grant I don't think hug Grant can pull it off Leander kany I think Leander kany actually could pull off to be honest
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with you maybe they can cast him as q i got this new PIN you w believe it
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it's it's it's amazing all right everyone I'm hurling towards the end stream Button as we
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