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What’s coming next for iPhone 16 Pro, iPad, and the return of iMac Pro!? (CultCast #660)
Mar 11, 2025
This week, what to expect from iPhone 16 Pro, iPad and iPad mini, the return of the 30-inch iMac (Pro?), last-minute changes to iOS 18 and Apple’s fight with Patreon creators. Also, an update on Erfon’s iPhone 15 Pro Max water damage repair!
Chapters:
0:00 Preshow
6:22 Intro
13:01 Squarespace
15:39 iPhone 16 Pro
34:11 iMac Pro
38:46 CultCloth
40:36 iOS 18 Beta 6
43:53 Hugo Last Honorary Segment
45:31 iPad 11 & iPad mini 7
52:19 iPad Robot
58:29 Apple and Patreon
1:07:36 Erfon’s iPhone Repair
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I start I did the auto stop this week and by golly I think it worked but the what the auto start oh so
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when I start the stream or when I press the button the stream just goes live it's called technology baby it's a thing
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that we do here Cutting Edge Cutting Edge
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broadcast of course I see no bits coming in we need some new facial expressions
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for these thumbnails I'm telling you oh Let me refresh the page and see if
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we're live if we're actually live it's uh well I only just now sent
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the Mastadon announcement post so oh well here comes the a few moments for the million give
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me the Tweet so I can shut Twitter down and get this crap out of my face I'll give you the Tweet ah shoot did I make
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it a good one where the hell is my tweet that's
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the question I don't even know all day and I don't see any bits coming in oh no
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I think we're live sorry was that too loud
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hey oh man look at all these people in here we might break 10 today let's see
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here oh my God an AI generated ver video of Donald Trump holding a pregnant Elon
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Musk that's exactly what I wanted from Twitter you know I you just don't you just not use Twitter it's it's gone
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great for me just head on over to Macedon where it's nice peaceful it's quiet there's
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almost no one there it's like a deserted island you'll be so relaxed I think what's more interesting
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is you know those tweets that you see are based on
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your personal interests yeah I'm not see that to
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me oh God I stare at it that probably increases the odds I'll see a varant oh
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yeah I'm sure they're timing that today is international relaxation Day by the way just in case you weren't aware of
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that so it time to celebrate dude okay yeah if you if you if you uh slow slow
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scroll and or God forbid you stop it's over man that algorithm is fine-tuning you're about to see a whole
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lot more of pregnant Elon shout out to Jeff crumpley that's got to that has got to be that's got to be a British last
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name crumpley doesn't it just sound like Heavens worth crumpley shout out to Hugo last the
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first will be last and the last will be first oh my goodness Hugo dropping it off already hold on Hugo we gota wait
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till we're officially live before I give you the credit for that one we got Carlos here we got G we got Mario I like
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that enthusiastic hello there Mario we got level remix we got red zuan
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redza oh the tweet's been tweeted my friend we got Robert we got Betty we got Dave oh my goodness they're poured in I
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hope the stadium can handle them we're going to have to add new seating dude look at all these concurrence is it just
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the title is it the title that brought you all here here uh it's it's the master onist yeah it's definitely that
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you're right do they still call those toots not officially that's
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accurate it's gonna be I mean I thought tweet was bad but dear God like it's the
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sound an elephant makes it's also the sound that other things make Griffin
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yeah I'm pretty sure that elephants don't I mean they probably do make that sound but that's not what you call
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it I mean they tooted out of one end what do they do out of the you know the right end the trunk end oh what do you
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call that I can't remember that noise a blast maybe a blast a trumpet there you
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go blast masted on yeah that's that's where
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that's Robo Griffin yeah the best bandwidth the Buckeye state can
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offer it says the YouTube popup brought Carlos here are we actually getting some traction I swear it doesn't tell people
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that we're live I think that's actually it and I think the the the news week is so slow this week that it's like we got
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to we got to serve up people something and I know that that's true because there's this one video that YouTube has
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been trying to get me to watch for years and it only pops up when there's nothing else to watch and it's a video about
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some comic book artist who was not a good illustrator who somehow made it big in comic books and I never watched the
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video but every time it turns slow it pops up it's like hey have you
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considered this video no I'm not watching it I don't want to watch it and that's how I know that's how I know it's
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a slow Newsweek Robert says YouTube popup brought him here too caveman I never get notified that you're live dude
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I wonder if YouTube fixed the popup notifications cuz all of a sudden all
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these people actually know that we're live it would probably help if we went live at the same time every week then we
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could say live at 12 but we never know that's the problem all
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right Cheerio old Bean that goes out to ERT let's get this thing rolling we
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actually have a lot of stuff to talk about so let's see where we should we
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starts uh I think I have my notes Here I think
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we're ready to roll should we go live I mean should we start the show dare we sounds good to me okay
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let's do it let me bring up Mrs you know who Mrs
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T oh my dear I'm ready to go to town oh really oh yes on El KY in the
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boar I don't even want to know what that means L there's some details in here
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that in there that we definitely don't need Mrs D look at poor Lewis his face is turning green yet again you've
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surprised him with your sway towards the inappropriate how are we never expecting it but that's not what we're here to do
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we want to talk about the latest Apple deuce and we got a whole lot to talk about so if you don't mind put a cork in
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it get those vocal cords ready I'll hit the music in three
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two hello the past 30 plus minute Apple
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conversation going to hear all week long I'm your host Aon Elijah joining me
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today joining me who today it's working he
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just purchased a new turbocharge dirt bike and it's taking Motocross classes to ensure he can better Chase and
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capture those escaping culac Riders see him coming up over that Hill
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fly to the sky coming towards you here's the manager Ed the back Lis walls is here
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after that pause I actually thought for a second you forgot your name there we go pull by this also with
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us his primary writing machine runs the next step OS the first and arguably last
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great operating system available for any computer he's a rider for culac Griffin Jones is
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here good evening I wish I had a computer that natively ran the the nextstep operating system but they're
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all prohibitively expensive I'm actually thinking about putting together an article on my personal blog of like my My Most Wanted computers that I can use
7:34
as a reference for any generous listeners but uh that is work in progress I would love to have a next
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machine but they actually are quite expensive I mean ridiculously expensive I mean they're they're they're a pretty
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cool artifact from Apple history and The Branding I think is one of the most
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beautiful icons that was ever created for any company what was the guy's name that created that for Steve Jobs I
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forget his name Paul Rand Paul Rand there is a really excellent video on YouTube of Paul Rand showing up with The
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Branding for the first time and all its different permutations to show it to Steve Jobs and the team and them just
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like absolutely gushing over it falling in love with it and he had a very interesting approach to like his clients
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he always charged them a flat fee of $100,000 no matter if they liked the logo or not because well if you if you
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don't like it you can pay me another $100,000 and I'll design another logo and also he wouldn't present like he
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would present like a lot of alternate ideas he would go with one and then like his his the work he would present would
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be like a book that he would like personally make and it would be like just basically explaining why this is
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the correct logo and the one you should go with he was an artist man and that's a great business to be in the I'm gonna
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just do this without your input and you're G to just pay me and if you don't like it that's fine you're still paying
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me that's a as far as I know there's only like one big swing in a Miss he did and that like he tried to design a new
8:58
Ford logo that just immediately threw away and kept using the same one as he also did the UPS logo didn't he mhm
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which the the old one the old one the old better one I would say which UPS then abandoned for that new UPS Shield
9:10
but yeah he really he was an artist for sure okay well we're not here to talk about Paul Rand although we maybe we
9:17
could off topic that is that is off topic which maybe we could do that at some point which Speaking of off topic
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we are going to be releasing a brand new episode tomorrow I believe this one I'm not sure what the
9:29
title is going to be I might just call it cars we just talked about cars for 30 minutes and I remember us arguing about
9:35
something I can't remember what it was maybe like the best cars the most reliable cars because oh this was this
9:44
like the this started out as like airon car purchasing intervention yeah you
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know that the council convened to help you make a decision I don't know if we really helped at all or any of our
9:56
advice was useful but I appreciate the sentiment but no no help in any way shape or form yet well you weren't
10:01
tooling around in a Miata this morning were you no unfortunately not imagine imagine me in a
10:08
Miata now now that's an image right there going down a a windy road 35 miles
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an hour not too fast got to take gotta take it easy around those Corners L is that is that maxed
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out I think that's as fast as they go they have like like like a V2 but the wife uh the wife vetoed that
10:27
okay we're getting some complaints that were too quiet let me know if anyone else is great well it might just be
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caveman he might be going DEA that's also possible but let me know chat if it's too quiet for those of you
10:39
listening and the recording it doesn't matter because we'll adjust everything and post okay uh we got a whole lot of
10:46
stuff to talk about we got some updates on iPhone 16 Pro we have a potential
10:53
updates well it is an update I guess it's not potential on the possibility of an iMac Pro a new one with a 30-in
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display Griffin's going to tell us about the what's new in iPhone 18 iOS 18 beta
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6 Lewis is going to talk to us about what's coming down the pipe for the next version of the iPads iPad 11 iPad Mini 7
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uh some weird kooky iPad that Apple seems to be working on that's going to be attached to a robotic arm that will follow you around and this is the second
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time I think that we've talked about this story so it seems like it might actually happen we're going to talk a little bit about um Apple V patreon you
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may have heard this news this week and how apple is trying to siphon off some
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of patreons I want to be careful so I don't get into a lawsuit some of we're adding fees to patreon so that people
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who use patreon have to give part of the fees that they collect from their supporters to Apple you know because
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Apple's poor and they need those fees diabolical and then if you stick around to the end for the for the masochists I
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have an update on my iPhone Ione 15 Pro Max story if you didn't catch last week
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I gave the whole breakdown it got splashed I would say I'm going to amend what I said spritzed it was spritzed
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with some water which being ip68 rated and supposed to be water resistant down
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to 18t of water best case scenario by the way uh that was enough to do in my poor iPhone and Apple would do nothing
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for me sadly even though I believed even now I I believe it even more now they should have replaced my phone for free
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it was under warranty this should never have bricked my phone but I took it on myself to do a self-repair and I'll tell
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you how good or bad that was so we'll do that at the end um
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before we kid man's asking why there's so many people here I was wondering that same thing I think YouTube may have
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changed the algorithm because all of a sudden everyone's telling us that they got notifications that we went live
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which seems to never happen so that's cool before we Dive In I do want to give a very hearty thank you to Squarespace
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for supporting this episode I think the big the big question is did I load this in the
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browser um and is it going to work because I'm not getting any loading
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screen which is definitely not a good sign and this is why we're broadcasting 30 minutes late because we were having
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these issues mainly with ls and we thought they were just lwis issues you know we well to rephrase that
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we thought there were issues with Lewis and LS does have issues but it seemed to be that that may not have been one of
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them yeah this is just not loading so I guess I can't show this while we're talking about which is fine if it pops
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up then I'll load it but I want to give a thank you to Squarespace for supporting this episode Squarespace has
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been with us for like I think like 10 years now and we send them hundreds of
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thousands of dollars in business every month I'm sure I mean I I have never calculated it so that could be off by a few bucks but I think the reason that I
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love having Square space around is because I use it for multiple websites including C cloth. which I'm going to
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talk about later in the episode and it made it so easy to actually get my
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website up and running and I managed the entire thing by myself and it's easy to
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make updates it's easy to configure stuff it's easy to add images it's e easy to add social media and you'll have
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talk about iPhone 16 Pro Lewis I'm sending it your way you thought I was GNA be confused oh no wow you're on it
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today man I don't know what it is but today's my day take it away loose that
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amazing headline is iPhone 16 Pro camera button will make taking pictures a SN M
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wow see what we did with that there great headline there's a reason it's a cult people love coming
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back uh so we've heard about this this uh rumor before with some more information about it the button being added to the iPhone 16 Pro Models
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designed to act like the shutter button on fancy used to say DSLR but I believe you were uh shaming me into saying that
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DSLR isn't actually The Cutting Edge thing anymore that's right fancy cameras it's a mirrorless I would say like a
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mirrorless because D DSLR a DSLR implies there's a mirror so they're not called
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dslrs anymore I don't believe they're just called mirrorless cameras I'm just G to call it a fancy camera anyway a
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real camera a real camera I mean that also is appropriate yeah so it's uh it's
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does a lot more than just you know just acting as a shutter or a shutter release excuse me I guess that's what be uh this
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information comes from one of our favorite sources you won't believe it uh Bloomberg reporter Mark Gman he says
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there will be a new camera control in the right side of the phone at least on the new Pros it will operate like a
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button on a DSLR camera he said yep allowing you to press
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in slightly to trigger autofocus a harder press will take the picture you
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can also swipe along the button to zoom in and out while shooting photos and videos interesting end of the quotes so
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that's the most interesting thing we've heard about this thing before previously it was referred to as a capture button Yep this is kind of one of those things
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that who knows what what's actually going to be called but uh anyway it sounds like it's going to be definitely an iPhone 16 pro and pro Max
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not sure if it's going to make it to the regular models but uh does sound interesting supposedly I mean the
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earlier rumors said that the capture button was going to be on all models right and there was some speculation it was so that people could film more stuff
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for the uh Vision Pro which is taking the World by storm oh yeah for sure
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question for you jents are we going Max this year are we sticking with the smaller size phone no absolutely not
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never never again I made the mistake of eating the iPhone 7 plus and I hated every day of it never never again I I
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think even the the the regular Pro phone might be a little too big for me but you know I have to take what I can get what
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I can get I mean I feel like a broken record in many respects I am but I have
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no original thoughts is what I'm trying to communicate but I did say previously that the new Max is the most manageable
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Max that I've ever owned because they the phone is just smaller so this is
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definitely the best Max that I've used and it's so good that it makes me think I might Max again I don't know Louis you
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seem like a Max man you go to the Max and everything that you do Max I get the 15 Pro Max the wife has
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the 15 Pro every single time I pick up her phone I go gee this is a lot less
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unwieldy than my phone it is way more manageable isn't it I just I I don't
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think I can I don't think I can bear to do it you know unless they come out with some amazing feature that's only in the max which you know they sucker you in
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like a a fish on a hook that's what got me that 5x Tetra prism camera and you
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know to be to be honest it's fine I don't use it that often when I do it's not like it's some you know astonishing
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difference between the uh the two models I it's not like it's zoomy enough to
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really be a super zoom you know if if it was like a incredible zoom camera then
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yeah maybe I would have to do it but uh it's just like slightly Zoom here so yeah I think I'm going regular Pro sorry
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it's not as far reaching as it sounds like it's going to be but I have found it to be more useful than I thought so
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but I I think for me I I'm well first of all on this phone I let Twitter decide
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for me I literally created a poll that said if this right post gets like some level of likes like 200 or something
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I'll I'll spring for the extra Max and sadly that happened so then I was like
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oh great and I have to spend the extra money I'm not even sure I want this phone dude you to do that with the car
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too surely the wife will accept that as as a a convincing proof that you have to
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get the Miata or whatever that's a great idea create a poll and I'll bring her
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the paperwork and say the people have spoken there's nothing I can do exactly we need to spend $30,000 on
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an MX5 Miata it has to be brand new because unfortunately that was in the wording of the Tweet so of course we'll
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have to add another 3 to 5,000 on top of that for the marriage counseling but you know whatever gets me into that Miata I
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think I'm going regular man if only because I I my iPhone 15 Pro Max is not going to
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be able to be traded in I'm not even sure I'll be able to sell it so I'm not going to get that discounts anymore and
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so I just want to spend less money and I am actually thinking about I can't believe I'm saying this but I actually
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am thinking about getting Apple Care Plus for it because now that I've had this phone damaged by a spritz I realize
21:09
how vulnerable these phones are and Apple's ads showing you how waterproof they are is so bogus man because they
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don't back it up so if you get any level of water damage like I don't really want to change my habits I don't want to be
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careful with it I don't want to not take it on a tube on the most docel water
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I've ever experienced in case it gets spritzed too much right by the way my
21:35
Apple watch Ultra is also ip68 rated so there must be different I think there might be different levels of ip68 rating
21:41
they advertise you like taking that Scuba Diving exactly and the same rating and yet it's not covered by the warranty
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I I think this is I think this might be a class action in in the works man I I think this is so disingenuous when you
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advertise a product to be used for a certain thing and then it breaks because the the the
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thing gets damaged doing the thing that they told you to do with it it's like dude what you literally had it you guys
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are GNA trigger me I'm gonna go through this whole thing again if you guys don't know what I'm talking about go listen to
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last episode I just a recap a one sentence recap the tldr I took my iPhone 15 Pro Max on a
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tube it got splashed a few times and it got water damaged and apple refuses to fix it for me which I was like I don't
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have Apple Care Plus I was like that's bogus like if I had taken it scuba diving or used it with outside the
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parameters for which you said this product should work I I would think that was fair but you clowned me you played
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me TC played me I'm like I'm on my own now yeah sorry go ahead Griff one very
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long sentence there uh to bring this in a little bit like I I don't see any reason why I would want to get the
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bigger one instead of the smaller one like I don't I don't watch a lot of videos on my phone I you know I I only
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really use for like what when I me about like reading social media or like you know RSS feeds or stuff like that and
23:04
like I can fit a full paragraph of text on the mediumsized phone I don't need a bigger screen for that you know yeah
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sure fair I watch a lot of YouTube and I I I watch videos and picture and picture mode all the time so for me it is nice
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having the larger video present while I'm doing things on my phone and plus I think just having a bigger display for
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looking at pictures for taking pictures for reading websites and stuff it is nice I have to say it is definitely
23:30
nicer having a larger screen and I've gotten used to the size since it is so manageable now but the extra cost is
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going to be a big barrier for me like if you add Apple Care Plus on top of the price of the phone I mean dude it's so
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expensive it's so expensive and and I'm actually thinking about just doing the um the upgrade program that's that's
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what you do right LS yeah yeah it is and it's felt kind of weird the last few years just because the phones have been
23:55
so similar but uh you know you do get Apple Care Plus us and when you have
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that and you walk into an Apple store it's like basically you know I don't know i' yeah
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it's like okay what do you want us to do you know just like oh here let us fix that I mean it it's I've never had any
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push back and frankly the story you you gave us last week sounded shocking to me because I've never uh I guess the only
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experience I've ever had like that was when I tried to return my last phone and they're like you can't do that here what
24:25
are you what are you trying to return this at the store for because that's what I was told to do by Apple support
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well that's crazy I just think it sucks like I've had so many experiences with Apple
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support where they have surprised and delighted me and it feels like they have
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moved from that being the standard practice to you get that treatment if you pay us and if you don't pay us
24:48
you're a leper get the hell out of here and they grab you by the back belt and they literally throw you out like DJ
24:53
Jazzy Jeff and Fresh pce Prince of Bellair when not with throw out of house
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so for those of you that get that reference that was I'm really surprised I think you should uh I think you I
25:04
actually think you should send Tim Cook an email I thought about doing that succinct email saying look here's the
25:10
story Tim I took my $1,200 iPhone that is whatever the ipx
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rating is yeah I took it on an inner tube and it dipped into some water briefly yep and now it doesn't work and
25:26
I mean unfortunately you ripped it apart so that's that's going to be a problem like but I don't if it is a problem know
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I think I mean you could still send him a letter but I mean yeah I'm not expecting him to do anything but I
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thought I should at least let him know like this is a bad experience you guys haven't thought this through like you're advertising this phone for a specific
25:43
purpose I'm sorry we're going down this Rabbit Hole again let us know if this is getting boring chat let us know and uh
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people are tell people in the chat said I should have told them like do you know who I am that to be honest the cult cast lit
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never even occur to me and even more than that I think that would be such a pathetic attempt like if I was Marquez
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brownley or someone with like millions of followers they might care but at our
26:11
level he would have been like bro like apple could release a new uh you know
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15th generation iPad referb press release and it would get more traffic
26:23
than you've probably ever gotten in your whole life like Apple's so much bigger than us I just don't think it I just
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don't think they would care um and if anything it would probably make him even
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more rude to me which to be honest I'm not sure it's possible but he really L was looking at me like I was like a
26:39
convicted felon like verdict was in man like you're a liar you're lying to me
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and I'm like I'm not I'm just telling you what happened anyway I'm sorry we're going on and on and on and on uh going
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back to the feature Lewis actually think this is a cool feature being able to take photos right from the button being
26:57
able to zoom in and out and like make it so that you can actually treat your cam or your iPhone more like a normal camera
27:03
I think that's going to be super useful and if they figure out a way to make it easier to switch between you know photo
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and video modes I I mean that's one of the things I struggle with the most I'm outside and I'm I'm looking at my phone I'm trying
27:16
to take a picture or a video or a p God forbid a panorama and it's like I'm trying to use
27:23
those onscreen controls I I don't know just super hard you know Sun's blaring in my eyes I feel like a mole I'm
27:30
sitting just trying to you know I I struggle with it don't you not
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[Laughter] really okay it it is it does kind of feel like an Antiquated interface
27:41
they've had that same interface since iOS 7 in 2013 and it's like well yeah still can only swipe one at a time or
27:48
you can tap the incredibly tiny little touch Target and jump like two at a time but like they have like what eight
27:54
different modes now and you have to just like swipe through them like one at it's it's actually very hard that's a good
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point like especially in broad daylight when you can barely even see the screen anyways right I mean it when you look at
28:06
it inside and you it's like oh it looks very elegant and everything but in Practical use it's difficult to use I
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find I I can't tell you how many times I've tried to take a panorama you know I'm standing outside in a gorgeous
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Italian city it's you know beautiful Mediterranean sunlight and and I start
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to try to uh do a panorama you know like you know oh G I did like a a panorama of
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of you know 12 feet of the the city or something you know it just it's just complicated you know I'm sure my eyes
28:38
are I know my eyes are damaged they're not great eyes I can't get an upgrade on my eyes not yet but give a few more
28:44
years not yet yeah but uh it just I find it I always struggle with it and and you
28:49
know try to even switch between like Photo and portrait mode it's hard to get
28:55
it exactly right for me I don't know you know I'm looking at the chat here and people are saying Wesley Davenport
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saying he received a free replacement iPhone after ruining it in water five to six years ago we're going back I mean I
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think that there's something about me that just irritated that technician I don't know what it was maybe he was like
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intimidated by my wit and knowledge of the product itself maybe you know maybe
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was jawline I I don't know maybe he it's just a Seattle jerk maybe you just you got like the one jerk at The Genius Bar
29:29
yeah I'm sure there's there's probably more than one I have had encounters at The Genius Bar in Seattle before with
29:36
people like that it doesn't happen very often but there are people there that are just kind of rude and and you should
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have tried a different store before you rip your phone apart that's what I would have done I know I probably should have done more but I think that they put a
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note on the phone so like even if you go to a different Apple Store they can see I think that you've already so I was
29:56
like well so if they do and you and you go to another when you say yeah I hope you can help me cuz you know the guy at the other store just he just really
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wasn't helpful at all you know and I I'm just really disappointed with this and uh you know I've been an
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apple devote for what decades yeah and
30:15
long my phone got slightly wet yeah and now it doesn't work at all so you know
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can you can you can you give a brother a hand maybe make that
30:28
exactly needy face or it's like yeah I would have gone in with the real like hey you know I I don't want to be too
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you know weird about this but you know I had this really bad experience at at a different Apple Store and I don't want to name any names or anything but you
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know I'm hoping you can help me with this you find outstanding citizen but I
30:46
can tell there's something about you that I like there's something special about you I think you're gonna be my guy
30:51
you can take care of this problem other people probably and Genius car yeah I'm going to email Tim I'll
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tell you what I will commit to doing that I'm going to email Tim Cook if he responds back to me with a hey y' I'll
31:04
let you guys know I think it will be crickets I'm sure this is not the first time this has happened where people tell
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Apple some story and they're like yeah take a hike we don't care but I'll try it I'll send him an email I'll explain
31:17
it succinctly so read it at 3 in the morning yeah after on after he's done working out at 2:30 a.m. he'll probably
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get back to me or at least he'll see I I know for sure he'll at least used to read it well I don't know that for sure that's the rumor right that he does read
31:32
his supposedly impossible to believe but I think that would speak to the
31:39
quality of his leadership if he actually still did that himself and didn't Farm it out to like some assistant or something but I will try and I will
31:46
report back what I find but in any case that's why I'm going with the iPhone 16
31:52
Pro regular I think so I can get the cheaper model I may get on that iPhone
31:58
upgrade path because I do it every year anyway so but it depends on whether or
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not I can get one of our genius friends to um give me the discount because they can give me the discount then I get 25%
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off the phone I get 20 25% off the um Apple Care Plus and then it's like okay this actually is a pretty significant
32:15
discount it might be worth the effort to sell this myself at the end of the year because it will still have apple care
32:21
which is a huge a huge draw for a used phone it's like if you can buy a used phone and you know you can take take it
32:26
to Apple for the next year to to repair anything that's a pretty big deal in my book tell us about the
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big screen device you are interested in oh hold on hold on hold on last oh he's still not done from the chat we got to
32:40
get the chat on the screen I gotta figure this out from Robert B I emailed him cook one time several years ago
32:45
because I had a problem with my iPad and they set up an appointment for me to come in and they gave me a brand new iPad off the shelf see I mean I don't
32:52
know man like you hear stories like that like it happens I think TC actually he really cares about people's experience
32:58
with apple and I think that this is a legitimate oversight on their behalf it's like the whole apple or or the
33:05
iPhone 4K issue that I've metion mentioned before which I'm not going to go into but just to give you a quick
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tldr I think there's a huge product oversight in app for Apple they charge
33:17
you well they include the ability to record 4K video on your iPhone but there is nowhere for you to watch that 4K
33:24
video you can't do it on the Apple TV 4K the only way you can do it is incredibly
33:29
convoluted it takes a ton of effort and so you're paying Apple to essentially uh give you a feature you
33:37
can't use and then you pay them again for I iCloud photo storage to store
33:42
those videos in the cloud which take up more space because they're 4K and so Apple double dips they're getting paid
33:49
from you twice and there's no way that they give you to actually enjoy that content in 4k I think that's a major
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problem it's a I I would go as far as say it's a scandal l a scandal definitely don't include this in the
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email about the phone I'm gonna write him like an eight page report of all Apple's problems okay should I move on
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sorry this is uh going downhill uh at an accelerated Pace let's talk about a
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potential iMac Pro with a 30in display
34:17
my friends if you have been wanting one of these I've got good news and I've
34:24
got maybe not bad news but maybe slightly disappointing news despite this is coming from the
34:30
germinator so we know that it's at least worth talking about despite Apple's product reshuffle and its continued
34:36
attempt to push customers to buy its smaller iMac it seems like the larger 30-in model is still on the way and it
34:43
just might be the iMac Pro Mark Gman was
34:48
saying this week a larger iMac remains something Apple's exploring he put this in his L latest power on I think he says
34:56
it's unclear if the device will use Apple's latest M4 processor uh Apple plans to update the
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24-in iMac to M4 later this year but German suggests that it could be too
35:08
early for the larger model it may not be ready to go live yet so it might be like an M5 or something later um in 2023
35:15
German said that Apple was in the early stages of developing the new iMac with over a 30-in display and that it was
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further out suggesting that it might be at least a year or two away from launching and then in October of this
35:27
year or last year 2023 M quo said he expected a 32in iMac with mini LED
35:32
display to come out in 2025 but he didn't specify um if that machine would be an
35:39
iMac Pro or just another iMac so it seems that Apple could release or is
35:45
working on a 30in plus model we don't know yet if it's a pro but with that
35:51
super huge display I think that's a real legitimate opportunity for Apple to
35:56
basically we to together like a studio with like the big large screen if it does come out it will
36:03
probably be in 2026 so you still got some time before uh you're ready to plurk that money over now keep in mind
36:10
um that the iMac Studio or the Mac Studio I should say
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is $5,000 with the the M Ultra chip in it
36:22
and then the display that Apple sells well you could spend $5,000 on
36:28
their um on their xdr Studio display so if this thing comes out I don't think it's going to be cheap it may not be
36:35
cheap it may be for people that have got the duckets to do the Pro work but so
36:42
that makes me think that maybe they won't do it because that's going to be a pretty limited audience but I don't know I just wanted to give an update because
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we've talked about this machine before it's still it's still in the works it seems like and for those of you who
36:54
really want a large screen iMac which I think I might be one of those people as well all I'm saying is you got a chance but
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it might be a year or two is away who could have predicted
37:07
that uh in in a market where desktop computers is rapidly shrinking Apple might potentially release three
37:13
completely different Pro desktop computers with Niche within a niche a
37:19
niche within within a niche of Apple products as itself they should make it not a iPad
37:24
iPad iMac Pro they should just make it a big imback you know I mean because that's a great machine for people and
37:30
some people like a bigger screen so I mean every time I'm reminded that there
37:35
isn't a big iMac I'm kind of surprised I think that's it I think they're going to offer that with the um like the M4 or
37:42
the M5 Pro chip in there right so it's going to be like more powerful than a MacBook Air but you'll have it won't be
37:51
as powerful as like a MacBook Pro or something but if it's a mini LED display those are very expensive that's not just
37:56
a bigger iMac that's a bigger iMac also with a completely like different display technology that's going to be much more
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expensive and drive the price up yes if it if they do go the cheaper R I don't think we're in for mini LED displays
38:09
like that's a feature that's actually a really good call out if they do do mini LED I think that's an indication that
38:14
they're going to go uh Mac Pro because why would you put such an expensive feature in a cheap machine I don't think
38:20
that makes any sense all right we're way over here we've been talking for like four hours we have like 18 stories left
38:27
and we've I've been complaining about the same story I talked about last week for like half the show which I probably
38:33
will will regret later when I look at the download numbers um what should we talk about next you want to talk about
38:39
iOS 16 oh wait a second just real quick just very quickly if you don't mind Griffin before I pass it to you I just
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would like to give a quick plug for Colt cloth if
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you're going to be picking yourself up a Vision Pro if you got a new iPhone if
38:57
you you if you have an iPad that's grimy and gross an Apple Watch there is absolutely
39:04
nothing that works better at keeping your devices your glasses your lenses your cameras sparkling clean I was
39:10
cleaning my camera the other day it's one of those um vintage Fuji with all the different dials that are on the top
39:17
right and the thing about those cameras is Grime gets lodged around those little
39:25
dials and unless you have coat cloth that Grime is living there forever there's no way to get it out you can't
39:30
fit a normal microfiber down in there because it's a very thin Channel but
39:35
then it like opens up towards the bottom underneath those little dials and you got to have coat cloth because our Rich
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thick fibers reach down into the cracks of your life and cleans those cracks and makes them sparkling clean even if you
39:48
just have an Apple Watch when's the last time you've looked and or cleaned the underside of your Apple watch that
39:54
touches your skin yeah cuz it has that hard Corner around the ring and it has those tiny little engraved letters what
40:00
other cloth is going to get into all those tiny little letters that's why the underside of my Apple watch is filthy and why I'm never going to show it to
40:06
the audience because Aon hasn't sent me a free cult cloth yet I need to do that I can't believe that I haven't done it
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but there's many things I I haven't done but that's on the list I'm gonna get you one those I'll I'll take a before and after picture okay I use it all the time
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so and I always say I'm surprised at how well it works I won't uh bore you with with more but if you want to support the
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okay let's move on to iOS 18 beta 6 dude beta 6 okay what could there possibly be
40:43
new in beta 6 that's what I want to know Griffin I mean it's beta 6 what else could they put in here it's like done
40:48
well I I I I wish there was more let me just put it that way there are more changes to the photos app okay
40:55
uh okay not not very many changes nothing worth mentioning well in the
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library the search button has been moved to the left of the select button so it's
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it's now easier to tap I I I will say that in this latest beta I don't accidentally tap the wrong button
41:12
because the the search button is no longer in the middle it's it's it's on the far Edge and when you uh scroll down
41:18
in the photo amp the search button expands to be a little bit wider so now it has like the little Spotlight icon
41:24
and a label that says search it's still but here's the thing it's still like way up there on the top of the screen it's
41:31
it's still hard to reach with one hand I I I'll say this again I think it should be a fullsize like text box like right
41:38
in the middle of the screen between the library and all the stuff below but well we know that Apple's
41:43
listen to this show or at least to your piece so it's worth calling it out because that that's that's what I want
41:50
to happen but again we're on beta 6 probably won't be any changes before it's released unfortunately uh another
41:56
change in the collections View the albums are displayed a little bit larger you can now see three on the screen at
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once instead of just two that's another thing I called out in my uh article from before that theyve that they've changed
42:08
here's a surprising change for all of our um friends in the European Union uh Switching gears in the iOS
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18.1 beta which is still happening in parallel the latest version lets you
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enable Apple intelligence in the EU Apple withheld this earlier
42:27
but uh in this latest beta all you have to do is go to settings General language
42:33
and region you set your language to us English and your region to United States
42:38
and then you can use apple intelligence it's no longer like geol locked to your location now bear in mind if you do that
42:45
you lose access to European Union exclusive features like alternative app marketplaces after 30
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days so you have to decide whether you want Apple intelligence or
42:58
night man it would be such a huge savings to have the alternate app stores
43:03
I I mean the prices are going to be so much better than they are on the App Store the the official app
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store yeah um so as we mentioned this is probably the last beta there might be
43:14
one more but it's really getting to the about the time where Apple has to start putting iOS 18 on the millions of
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iPhones that they plan to ship out in a surprisingly short amount of time like less than a month so there might be a
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beta 7 next week probably not though this is probably it all right any other features worth mentioning I'll put a
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link to the show notes or to the story in the show notes or by me I mean Griffin will and you can go read through
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everything it has all the different screenshots of all the stuff that's changed so he he already did all the
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work so all you got to do is go in there and check it out new Dynamic wallpapers it's kind of cool yeah all right cool
43:53
well then in that case I'm going to send it over to ol L Wallace to talk about oh thank you for
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that Lewis Wallace with the win we got to give a a big hearty thank you B to
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Hugo last for the $25 Super Chat he said starting a new fund for airon new iPhone
44:12
Hugo I appreciate the sentiment it's a thought that counts unfortunately that goes directly into Elk's pocket I'm not
44:18
sure I'll ever see a dime do you think LK will buy me a new phone Le yeah that's that's definitely in the pipeline
44:24
can you talk to him about it for me what with the hundreds ofll bring yeah okay cool yeah that'd be great um but thank
44:32
you for that Hugo last we're going to have Hugo on the show I reached out to him today on the allnew X and I said Hugo we're going to make this happen I
44:38
don't know what country he's in but if he comes on you know what that means it
44:43
means he literally bought himself onto the show I'm not even ashamed to say it he
44:48
literally bought himself onto the onto the show I think he's a member of if you go to support.the cast.com that's true
44:56
we play we we do want to bring people on from the very exclusive cult Club but Hugo if you guys haven't noticed is
45:02
literally donating to us every single episode now in the super chats I'm not sure how much it's been but it's got to
45:08
be hundreds of dollars by now and uh you know I think I think he can do even more
45:15
like he's already done so much but in the next year I expect big things from here I'm joking I'm just
45:22
joking here you go you've done enough take a break let somebody else donate a couple bucks
45:27
but after your break you know come back okay let's see Lewis iPad 11 iPad Mini 7 you want
45:37
to give us a breakdown here our amazing rumor Roundup of uh what to expect from iPad 11 iPad mini7 you know shocking
45:44
news apple is working on updating its tablets and it's probably going to release them sometime in the future hey
45:51
you know I think that there's more to the story than your sarcasm implies I'm
45:56
not I'm not giv it due it's due am you know October is traditional time
46:02
for when Apple released new tablets you know so uh that's when we're expecting iPad 11 and iPad Mini 7 there's been a
46:08
dir of specific rumors about what the regular iPad's going to get this year uh
46:13
consensus is it'll get a new faster chip you know not surprising current version
46:19
runs on A14 bionic from 20120 uh so this is only speculation but
46:24
upgrading the tablet to at least an a17 Pro with sufficient Ram would make it
46:29
able to run Apple intelligence there you go so that seems I mean they're not going to
46:35
release an iPad that doesn't use apple intelligence that would just be crazy especially because I saw a story that
46:42
they have plans to introduce Pro features at some point and roll that
46:48
into apple one which makes way too much sense for Apple to not do it I'm not
46:53
saying I like that idea I actually don't at all I'm like everything seems like it's going to start costing money um at
46:59
some point which I don't love but I think that's probably in our future they
47:05
don't want to reduce their pool of potential customers there yeah I mean it's just like how they released Final
47:11
Cut Pro on the iPad but now it cost money every month it's like uh and logic it's like
47:17
oh not a fan of the subscription model I have to say someone else is though a
47:22
very important someone yeah who might be giving me a new iPhone once I email sure
47:29
that's uh let's see uh don't look forward to a full external redesign with t-shirt iPad the in 2022 we got the
47:37
larger 10.9 in screen with USBC Port another enhancements and you know got
47:42
rid of the home button iPad 11 is expected to keep that design and then we talk about the iPad
47:50
Mini we haven't had a new one of those since September 2021 a lot of people love the iPad Min
47:55
I've never owned one but I love it I I would definitely own one if they weren't so expensive they don't put them on sale
48:01
very often uh but it's such a great size it do always making small devices
48:08
Apple some people like them I mean technically it's a bigger version of the
48:13
iPhone Max so it's an iPhone Ultra Max yeah it's it depends on how you look at
48:19
it uh let's see uh what little we know about the next iPad iPad Mini uh comes
48:25
from who this Bloomberg's Mark Gman who said
48:30
quote the iPad Mini update won't include much more than a processor upgrade okay well let's see current
48:37
version runs an a15 bionic newer than the one the basic one of course and uh you know once again speculation but come
48:43
on they're not going to release a new iPad Mini without an A7 Pro rep better
48:49
and enough RAM to run Apple intelligence uh that that seems to be the whole gist of this article it's
48:55
going to be the we're going to get new iPads that look the same as the iPads but have faster processors and more RAM
49:01
so they can use apple intelligence and I I think that makes perfect sense and uh
49:07
you know if October's the month that's going to be great news it's been a while since we've uh had these kinds of
49:13
updates to this very important product line you know and and that's I the low-end stuff is super important for
49:19
Apple too because gets people I mean they're perfect for kids gets people in the Apple pipeline I they're perfect we
49:26
say something Griffin uh yeah another another note note it'll probably the new iPad Mini 7 will probably get the new Apple pencils
49:33
because I think it's using the former generation of Apple pencils along with the the landscape camera and stuff like
49:39
that oh my God the apple pencil compatibility I my head spins every time I try to think about it I can't I just
49:47
it's definitely confus their whole product line is confusing because they're trying to eek every ounce of
49:52
profit out of those nips I mean they got to have like a price point it's like a product in every $ Five Doll increment
49:58
there's got to be a product in there somewhere where where you can like meet someone's need the one thing I was going to say about this iPad story and the
50:05
reason why I think it's I I at least wanted to mention it is because well the older iPads are going to become even
50:11
cheaper right so like the iPad 10 which became the base level iPad recently is
50:16
going to be even more base and it's probably going to have its price lowered and it's and and the threshold for like
50:22
the lowest end iPad is seems to be around $220 so you could score an iPad 10 from like
50:29
220 to 250 that's going to be an insane deal you could buy the iPad 9th generation right now on Amazon for I
50:35
think 220 uh and that thing is I mean it's not doesn't have all the new bells
50:42
and whistles it still has the old form factor but dude that thing is perfect for kids it is so powerful it does
50:49
literally anything that they would need to to to do I bought one for my kids and the kids that don't use that specific
50:55
model always complain because the other ones are so old and choppy and just don't run well and the and the ninth gen
51:01
I mean it does everything they need to do they're not taking photos they're not really playing games like they're they're they're listening to audiobooks
51:07
they're reading I mean all the stuff that kids do there's some learning stuff that they do on it it does perfectly so
51:13
like that 220 250 price point I wish the people listening could see what I'm doing with my hands I think that add a
51:19
lot of context it's very convincing those hand motions that's that's the price right there I think for a family
51:25
iPad in my humble opinion I'll also for for the for the people listening who aren't watching Aon has spent most of
51:30
this episode holding a pencil and so he has just been gesticulating much more like pointing poking himself yeah that's
51:37
right I I uh I found this pencil on my desk it's unsharpened just unsharpened pencil and I have found it to be very
51:43
good for making points and for talking right and it really adds an element that
51:48
kind of helps people when I'm making a point stay focused I've been fiddling off camera
51:55
with a tiny little like cable wrap tie thing that I've quailed into like just a tiny little bundle I used to have one of
52:02
those on my desk and I did the same thing with it oh my God I feel like I gota get a prop or something find a
52:08
flameer leis flamethrower would be very useful I think no not for long only
52:14
until your house burns down okay uh leis let's talk about the last iPad oh my goodness we are running so long we got
52:21
to pick this thing up let's uh let's talk about this wonky weird iPad on an
52:27
arm are you going to show the people the amazing AI generated that's definitely not the way it's going to look but
52:32
okay looks like a looks like a robot's spine some of these things are truly
52:38
unsettling uh let's see so Apple we've heard about this room before but Apple's reportedly ramping up work on a tabletop
52:45
computer that's essentially an iPad on a robot arm that can rotate and tilt the tablet to keep it facing the
52:52
user let's see the compan this who is who is this coming from don't even say
52:58
it tell that no one's ever heard of we discovered him yeah uh the company now
53:04
has a team of several hundred people working on the device wow which uses a thin robotic arm to move around a large
53:11
screen says Bloomberg's Mark Gman uh supposedly not going to be a
53:17
robot as many people Envision one it'll lack legs or Wheels stay stationary on a kitchen counter table or desk but it'll
53:24
include an iPad on a robotic arm that uses quote actuators to tilt the display up and down and make it spin
53:31
360° uh you know the kma had fair amount of information this he also says the device is envisioned as a smart home
53:38
Command Center video conferencing machine and remote controlled home security tool the project I love it when
53:45
he gives a code names code named j595 was approved by Apple's executive
53:50
team in 2022 but it started to formally ramp up in recent months interesting
53:57
uh the device could respond to commands such as Look At Me by repositioning the screen to focus on the person saying the
54:03
words say during a video call it also could understand different voices and adjust its focus
54:09
accordingly uh as Ed who wrote up our piece on this points out uh this uh device sounds kind of a lot like uh the
54:17
belcon autot tracking stand Pro which is a desktop stand that uses Apple's dock kit system to keep an iPhone pointed at
54:23
a user uh this I like to call the iPad on a stick it it
54:29
might be more like an iPad on a on a homepod uh product is apparently in an
54:35
early stage development not expected to reach customers for 2026 at the earliest price tag are you ready for
54:42
this $11,000 roughly What premium iPad models
54:47
without robot arms sell for you kind of had me with the iPad
54:52
with legs now that might be something I'm interested in if it just follows you around with leg like it walks around
54:59
Apple's given up on making the iPad a computer so now it's just like their experimental thing like hey what if we try to make the iPad a laptop it's okay
55:07
I guess what if we try to make the iPad strapped to your face not people really
55:12
like that okay robot
55:18
yeah so I suppose this sounds like interesting uh you know H pod if you had
55:24
a home pod with a iPad attached to it you can see how that might be useful
55:30
but I don't know robot arm makes it swing around it does sound wacky as heck
55:35
doesn't it I mean I guess like on a table if you're having a conference call
55:42
or something maybe that makes sense in your home I don't know FaceTime calls maybe so I don't know I guess maybe it
55:48
might work but then you know the iPad already has what's the thing called Center Stage is that what the center
55:53
stage feature is called Center Stage Max pinned on you yeah stage on steroids
56:00
very uh it's very odd rumor and you know I gotta say that the, price point for this thing sounds I
56:08
mean if people already have an iPad that can do Center Stage then I don't know
56:14
big it's kind of a specialty project which is why I think this is such a wacky un withholding judgment I I this
56:20
could be cool but it is definitely a departure from what we're used to so let's see I mean to me it SS sound like
56:26
this is almost like experimental at this point but if they have 200 people working on it it's hard to know if like
56:32
they have decided to go ahead in just green like this or if they're still research on it this wasn't in the show
56:38
notes but didn't they put Kevin Lynch on this am I wrong about that no idea yeah
56:44
I remember reading that in Mark German's original piece um I will also say that just despite sort of the angle Mark's
56:49
going with this I would be surprised if this actually was like an iPad built into an arm I expect this to be kind of
56:56
like just an accessory like a fancy iPad stand because if you're going to spend this much money on a robot arm you don't
57:03
want to have to buy a new robot arm when you want a new iPad excellent point excellent point so
57:09
it will work and for a thousand $ thousand dollar for a robot arm like it's a lot of money but that's actually
57:14
not a lot of money for a robot arm that has that much articulation like I have a hard time imagine like they can make an
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expensive thing like that that also comes with a display and is a full computer on it
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yeah but who wants to spend $1,000 what normal person wants to spend $1,000 on a
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robot arm that they can use with their iPad Pro that they also need to I mean the whole thing that's a separate
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question I hope I have an answer for the whole thing is just weird anyway okay we're running way long let's um yeah the
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other part of this that that German was in German's story was like oh uh you
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know this is Apple like saying oh well we have to have a new product that's generate going to generate sales because
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we have to continue to grow because that's what the stock market demands and so you know we can't make a car but
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maybe we could maybe we could put have you know a couple hundred people slap an iPad on a robotic arm I mean it it just
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what are we missing something sounds that does not sound right and it does not sound like a gigantic hit product it
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sounds like I mean maybe maybe it'll be like one of those barians it'll also make
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cocktails I mean if then maybe you got something I don't know all right TBD
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we'll we'll let you know if we learn more let's move on and talk about this whole patreon thing we should probably need to do this quick cuz we're we we
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don't need to linger here too long but I did think this was not a good look for Apple it seemed incredibly stingy and
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stinky and and as a Creator this agitated me greatly um I'll pass it to
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you Griffin to kind of give like the tldr of like what happened this week and what's happening with patreon between
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Apple and and all this all this nonsense yeah so a patreon a service that authors
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artists and many creators on the internet use to get funding from their fans has to switch to its IOS app to use
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Apple's Ina purchase system by November this will add Apple's 30% App Store fee
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to all new memberships purchased through the IOS app as patreon uh wrote on their blog on Monday unfortunately apple is
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requiring us to switch over to their in purchase system for all iOS transactions or else risk being kicked out of the App
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Store altogether and their Ina purchase system is not built with our same level of Creator
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first flexibility so kind of a diplomatic way of putting it let me be angry on their behalf as part of their
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change Apple will change its 30 Apple will charge 30% fees to all new
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memberships for all of the creators you support and creators have to like decide which plan they're going to go so I'm
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going to make sure this uh graph is the chapter artwork for this chapter if you want to look in your podcast player also
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describe it uh paint a word picture for you so they have this this bar graph that explains the old system and the new
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system and like how the breakdown works so in the existing system if you pay your favorite Creator
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$10 they get
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$861,000 5050 support in which the Creator earns basically the same amount of money or
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the creator has to make less money because Apple wants some of it and then at that point apple is making almost
1:00:40
almost as much as the Creator yeah so in that system you still pay the same $10 but the Creator goes from earning 861 to
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$6.20 a 25% cut Apple makes $435
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which is I cannot emphasize this enough over five times as much as patreon
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itself which only makes 80 cents so every time you pay a Creator
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$10 through patreon Apple takes five times as much money as
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patreon where did this graph come from this came from patreon's own blog in
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their announcement like on goofy about it though like if it was $10 Apple's fee
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would wouldn't be 435 this this is what they're saying
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it's going to be you know how could that that it was it it be $3 uh I don't want to blow this up right
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here live but uh what am I missing yeah that does seem suspect the math on that does seem suspect so
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because if it was $10 um I mean it's the point Remains the
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Same it's just that they wouldn't make as much if it was out of $10 they would
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still be making over what two and a half times as much as patreon on their own yeah I I think it's on their own service
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and that would just Mis that's all it is is interesting though yeah because creators have been saying like I don't
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have a relationship with apple I make you know I draw Comics people buy those Comics through patreon and suddenly
1:02:15
Apple wants 30% of the revenue like apple I don't own any Apple products Apple shouldn't be involved like they
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are basically a glorified payment processor and the standard for payment processors Fe is like 2 and half% and
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apple wants an order of magnitude more than that simply because the transaction is occurring over the iPhone I think
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that's absolutely ludicrous if I was patreon I'd just delete the app from the store say you
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know visit us on the web call their Bluff yeah but a lot of people use patreon's app to manage their
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entire businesses I I I guess I would just say this not a good look for apple as I said earlier incredibly stingy
1:02:53
going at this is like uh reverse Robin Hood you know it's
1:02:59
like robbing from the poor to pay the king it's like dude the people that people who don't
1:03:06
have a relationship with apple like yeah people who don't use any Apple products suddenly have a reason to be furious at
1:03:12
the company for taking their money like I don't see I don't see how Apple could possibly think that whatever money
1:03:18
they're going to make from you know Joe Schmo web comic is going to be more
1:03:24
valuable to them than than the the gigantic reputation that they're going to take from everybody who
1:03:31
had nothing to do with them before yeah apple doesn't seem to be providing any value here they're just
1:03:38
taking a cut of the transaction because they can which is not a good look and I'll just say like as a Creator it's
1:03:45
very hard to make money as a Creator I mean especially to get people to pay you for Content because look we're we're
1:03:52
we're all subscription out right like like I always we always say like you know Fork it over pal and U you know
1:03:58
suas if you want to see this content you know survive and like that's all true but what's also true is everybody else
1:04:04
is saying the same thing to you and so you got to pick and choose who you want to support and you know if you support
1:04:10
us we appreciate that but like it's hard to get people to give you money any level of money even $5 a month it's hard
1:04:16
to get people to give you money because there's so many other things to pay for and now you have apple in here like poking their big long finger into your
1:04:22
shoulder and like they're they're telling you to Fork it over it's like dude D okay but what are you doing for
1:04:27
this money nothing oh you just exist and you can collect so that's why you're
1:04:33
doing it really really um anti-consumer anti-c Creator
1:04:38
they need to do a complete about face on this they need to apologize and they need to move on it's not going to be so
1:04:44
much money and apple is not so desperate for money that this is something that they need to do they're making money plenty of other places they got
1:04:51
subscriptions Galore now they're charging more than ever for these um product that they say are waterproof but
1:04:57
actually are not they say are water resistant but actually seem to not be and I just don't think that they need
1:05:02
this money it's it it's it's just it just seems like it's incredibly greedy and that's not a good look for apple and
1:05:09
I hope that they reverse on this um I have my own complaints about patreon as well by the way so I'm I'm procreator
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like creators need a place to be able to survive and make money otherwise how do
1:05:22
they create they they can't do it yeah leis do you feel uh wildly different about this than for
1:05:28
instance you know getting signing up for a Netflix subscription and giving Apple a monthly grift or in app purchases I
1:05:36
mean it's it's kind of the same thing you know they're not really doing anything other than facilitating the
1:05:41
transaction and building the platform you know and maintaining the platform that that the transaction takes place
1:05:48
over but it's it seems like this you find this extra extra offensive I feel
1:05:54
the exact same way about this because I think that Apple's 30% should have been lowered years ago oh for sure I think
1:06:01
that charging 30% of a sale for your app is I I I think that's justifiable but I
1:06:09
would like to see that be lower as well but at least at that point you're like providing a store infrastructure
1:06:15
you're providing a platform like there's stuff that you're doing that justifies you collecting money but if you're collecting a portion of all their
1:06:23
sales if you do that it needs to be very low cuz you're not providing any extra value at that point you're just you're
1:06:31
just collecting and 30% of any kind of Revenue subscription revenue is
1:06:37
outrageous like the most that should be and I would argue even this is too high is 5% even that is too high and you're
1:06:46
not provid again it goes down to the value you're not providing any value at that point the app has already been installed on the device Netflix is doing
1:06:53
all the work patreon's doing all the work all you're doing is holding out your big fat sweaty palm
1:06:58
and saying Fork it over pal and Fork it over is a great
1:07:05
slogan it works if you're actually providing something but if you're not providing anything then where do you get
1:07:12
off doing that it just is a gross profit extraction
1:07:18
tactic and I hate to see them do it um yeah we could talk about this all day
1:07:24
especially about the percent that Apple charges I'm not a fan either I think they all need to be lower and I say that
1:07:30
as a stockholder a significant stockholder uh a voting stockholder uh all right let me wrap up
1:07:37
with this story you're all wondering I'm sure what is the state of your iPhone 15
1:07:44
Pro Max I'll fill you guys in quickly got got spritzed got water in
1:07:52
it Apple told me to take a hike and um uncle filled me out of the house
1:07:58
unfortunately so I decided to take upon myself to take the phone apart which was one of the most harrowing Tech
1:08:04
encounters I've ever had finally got the screen off sprayed the whole thing out with compressed air water did come out
1:08:10
of it out of the um buttons on the side and I had to clean out the lenses and
1:08:16
stuff because they were all foggy and everything took the whole thing well not the whole thing apart I took the camera module out and I just let the phone sit
1:08:23
there for like probably week just drying and in the process I did break
1:08:30
the screen unfortunately the backing on the screen was broken and so I was like dude I don't
1:08:36
even know if I'm going be able to get this thing back together so before I tried to put the whole thing back
1:08:41
together I I plugged the um I put the camera module back in I cleaned the whole thing up wiped it all down cleaned
1:08:47
the lenses with alcohol and replug the battery back in you got to this this whole thing is like
1:08:54
it's like playing operation you got to be very delicate you know things are buzzing at you and you're using like a
1:09:00
spudger you're using like surgeon tools to get this thing back together I get the screen plugged back in powered up
1:09:08
power's back on I was like okay power's back on that's a good side now it worked before but the buttons wouldn't work um
1:09:14
the cameras were were inoperational and the other thing it was doing before was just driving me
1:09:20
certifiably insane was the buttons especially the volume buttons would just
1:09:25
be erratic like all of a sudden you turn the phone on on and the volume would just go bloop and just drop all the way down and if you brought it back up it
1:09:31
would bloop go all the way back down again and then it would just keep like the water was in there so it would keep
1:09:37
like thinking that you were pressing the volume down button and so like the meter that shows you how much volume is left
1:09:42
would keep showing up on the screen as empty showing up on the screen as empty it would just slide in and out and slide in and out and slide in and out I was
1:09:48
like dude I can't handle this visual activity it's going to make me uh crazy
1:09:54
so all that to say plug it in turn it on no volume display press the volume up
1:10:01
goes up doesn't come back down press the volume down goes back down I press the quick action button it works I was like
1:10:08
no way so I put the I remount the screen I haven't glued it down or anything I
1:10:15
just literally pressed it back on the glue is so powerful that even what residual glue was left is still sticky enough that it kind of holds the screen
1:10:21
on and so my friends
1:10:26
we are back in business wow back in business baby it actually worked it
1:10:32
worked I did not expect that it works perfect the buttons haven't had a single
1:10:38
glitch the cameras work perfect again the quick action button works perfect again now look this thing's never going
1:10:46
to be waterproof ever take it the shower tomorrow morning never doing that again and uh
1:10:52
and you could see like maybe you can't see the screen's not like fully mounted on there anymore like there's some
1:10:59
there's some Bend and uh but you know I could glue it back on and I probably will just to kind
1:11:06
of adhere the screen better and make sure I keep as much dust out as I can water is a lost cause but the dust I I
1:11:12
would like to keep out of it but like the thing is like this phone doesn't need to last me another year although I think it probably is good to go from
1:11:17
here on out it only needs to to last me until the iPhone 16 comes out like that's what I was just trying to get to
1:11:23
until I can buy the phone so I consider that a big
1:11:29
success you know I'm amazed surgery successful the patient
1:11:36
survived maybe not perfect but up around moving everything seems to be working
1:11:41
again I couldn't believe that that worked so getting that water out and just letting it dry I guess it was so
1:11:47
minimal because it wasn't a lot of water it's like a couple like tiny little teeny tiny drips like it doesn't have to be very much everything in there is like
1:11:52
very close together teeny tiny little driplets you know came out I think when I sprayed the buttons especially and that was the
1:11:59
only place I really found water besides the fog around the um the lenses which
1:12:05
leads me to believe that my corre my initial assumption was correct the water egress happened in the volume buttons I
1:12:11
think that's where it got in so the seal around the buttons didn't work the water got in however it did I have no idea and
1:12:18
then it made its way like I think it just um the phone was hot and the water evaporated inside the phone and it it uh
1:12:25
uh it it congressed around the lenses because that's the outside point of contact with the world right so it
1:12:31
probably gets cold the fastest and so it adhered to the lenses and that's just where it lived so I think it was the
1:12:37
volume buttons that ended up feeling I know that seal failure is impossible
1:12:42
that's what the genius told me it literally never happens and I quote it literally never happens you would be the
1:12:48
first one is what he told me well sir I believe you may have found your first
1:12:53
case so my plan now is just to use the phone and then once I get my new phone I'm
1:13:00
going to sell it for parts on eBay and just say phone works great had some water damage fixed it no longer
1:13:08
waterproof you know but if you want a phone if you have no plans on taking it in the water which I think most people
1:13:13
don't take their phones in the water then dude this phone is perfect like it works just as well as any other iPhone
1:13:19
I'll glue it back down I got the seal off Amazon to to reglue it and this thing will be up and running you could
1:13:27
sign the in like a part on the inside of it as well signed by do that I should
1:13:32
get like a silver Sharpie and sign the battery and then sell it on eBay and uh
1:13:40
no one will ever know that it's there but I can't believe that it works man I
1:13:46
thank God I really didn't want to use that iPhone 7 for the next six weeks that thing was so terrible I mean it's a
1:13:53
miracle that it works and kudos to Apple for building a device that still works all these years later but trying to read
1:13:58
on that thing was giving me vertigo and it's so dimin like holding it in your
1:14:03
hand it's like it would probably be perfect for Alexy Heath and his tiny little hands but for these for these
1:14:09
meat hooks no way just just just uh can't have it I
1:14:15
cannot believe you got that thing back together yeah it wasn't easy how many hours do you suppose
1:14:21
overall this took you probably two and how much money did you spend the pieces and uh the only thing that I well I
1:14:28
bought the iix it toolkit for 70 so it's not cheap but you can use
1:14:34
that forever but you can use that forever yeah and it's a it is a nice toolkit and then I bought the seals they
1:14:42
sent me two seals for $7 so eight it was $8 with tax so 78 bucks to to to make it
1:14:47
work and now I can sell it like it didn't work before whereas now it works again right so like I could probably
1:14:54
sell this I imagine now that it's working once I once I reglue the screen I could probably sell it for at least
1:15:00
$400 whereas before I don't know if I could could have gotten anything for it because it just didn't work and I might
1:15:06
even be able to get 500 for it I mean it's an iPhone 15 Pro Max it works perfectly so there's probably somebody
1:15:12
out there who's not going to care that it's not waterproof and they're not going to care that it got water damage
1:15:18
like as long as it works and they can see that it works like they'd probably spend $500 on it and get themselves a
1:15:24
phone or I might keep it as a backup just having a backup phone I thought about doing that as well because I the only
1:15:30
backup phone I have now is the iPhone 7 not a great backup phone because it it needs a SIM card you know actually I had
1:15:37
to spend $5 on the SIM card so there's also that so I guess I'm at uh
1:15:45
$82 SIM card Q says Hill Alex has not been part
1:15:50
of the show for years but still has his hands made fun of if there's one one thing I'll do for the rest of my life it
1:15:56
will be making fun of Alexy Heath and his teeny tiny hands especially now that he's working at The Verge that
1:16:03
traitor traitor I hate to even speak of him but I also am weirdly obsessed with him and
1:16:09
how well his career is going but that's a topic for another time I think we're going to go ahead and wrap it up there
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guys next time Tedd says the week new episodes of
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the podast come out didn't say that part oh every Thursday night did I miss that
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part yeah how will they they're going to be so confused they're not going to know when
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to try to download it shoot well I'll make sure I mention that
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in the cult cast off topic which also won't be coming out for at
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least a week because the one that we have is already recorded all right
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guys I've got nothing else any famous last words
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leis no I hear you man oh right turn all
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