The BIG changes coming to MacBooks and iPads… in 2026 (CultCast #677)
Mar 11, 2025
This week: - The 5G OLED MacBooks and iPads of our dreams are on the way - New features in iOS 18.2 -The next big leap for Apple Watch Ultra - Our favorite movies, gadgets, and stuff from 2024! Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 4:29 Intro 12:23 Squarespace 14:24 OLED MacBooks & iPads 26:29 5G MacBooks 36:50 CultCloth 38:48 Apple Watch Ultra 3 46:12 iOS 18.2 1:00:43 Best of 2024
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the stream has started oh it's telling me to start select the stream again no
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way again well now it says we're connected
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what a week I Blame You Louis it's got to be my fault your pre
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your presence just makes all the technology go HeyWire your mere presence hey look at
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that wait a minute 4K golden dust animation background video it switched
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me from our thing to that okay well that's that's just great here we go wait
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a minute now this is yeah I don't know man oh my God what's this this is
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like I'm seeing on there Le is seeing actual interesting content as opposed to this show we got Carlos introduced to It
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For the First Time Carlos made the jump I have to blame myself but also Pat
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myself on the back for that technical feat of troubleshooting in the 30
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minutes that we had every literally everything go Haywire our video was missing our audios
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was were missing I mean just every problem and somehow I got it all solved within 30 minutes on the
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fly so I also caus the problems there is that but so I reinstalled our broadcasting software Lewis right before
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the show fully in which I always tell people you never go full cany and I did it I just I just
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I was like what could go wrong I updated our our streaming platform cuz it's a stable build and I was like what what
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could what could go wrong well I didn't consider the plugins the plugins could go wrong which apparently needed to be
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updated so we got that done oh yeah and I can't believe it actually worked so we
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got Carlos here I don't know if anyone else is g to actually show up at least until we send the Tweet should we send the Tweet action right now and then
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we'll get this thing rolling great idea we got the private stream Carlos has got
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the uh the private room at the club Griffin's going to be doing a dance special dance for you later
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[Laughter] oh
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dear all right let's uh let's get this thing rolling we've been recording for
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three hours and 45 minutes we're at like the third or fourth ending of Lord of
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the Rings extended edition by now okay the Tweet has been
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tweeted I believe I updated it to the correct URL please Lord
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tell me I did I did fantastic okay we got people piling in
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now it's Ed he's waiting for the Tweet it's oh it's been tweeted Ed oh God I
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see that I see that handle toy lover I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean I'm
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not sure I should have said that out loud we're going to go ahead and get this thing
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rolling did you every time I look at Twitter it's just a Non-Stop like well first off it's not
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called Twitter anymore but it's not get it right pay the price non-stop distraction including what I just
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dropped in the slack there just for you Aon okay oh great yeah nine seconds nine seconds of Joy
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okay all right let's all you deserve I suppose Hey where's the Tweet where's the Tweet the Tweet has been tweeted did
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you not hear from Toy lover it's been tweeted
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okay where is it I'm gonna go ahead and queue up to get rolling oh Mrs
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D wait oh did somebody say toys oh
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no m d I'm gonna stop you right there we don't want to hear anything more about
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that topic especially when it comes to you and elcy please just keep that to yourself we got a whole Apple show here
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to do and none of us want to be nauseous for the entire thing so if you don't mind I'm going to get the music queued
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up I'm going to get my notes queued up do I have that going I believe so and uh
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we've got Quorum I think we're going to go ahead and get started oh shoot do I have a do I have browser mode set up
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because we restarted the stream probably not so you guys are going to have to see how the sausage is made here shortly
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which uh hopefully you'll enjoy that all right m d let's go ahead and get this thing rolling in three two
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hello and welcome to the co Cassi fast 30 plus conversation you're here all
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week long I'm your host join me today this time of year he likes to let the culac Riders out in the wintry Woods
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then put on his red suit and hunt them back down he has a sleigh and a bag full
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of bullas and capture equipment he's the managing editor of culac L walls is
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here ah it's getting a little chilly Now isn't it yeah it is
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also with us all he wants for Christmas is an apple laser Rider with postcript support and 1.5 megabytes of system
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memory imagine what you could accomplish with that on your desk he's a rider at culac Griffin
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J here Apple laser riter actually would be pretty neat those are very reliable
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printers yeah you know even as the years go on I currently the only functioning printer I have is a 33-year-old dot
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matrix printer but I have to connect to uh the PC sitting over my shoulder right now which one's Windows
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200000 Windows Pentium 2 based system sometimes I am exactly the parody
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of myself the oh that is hilarious yeah of I mean of course you have that that that's really funny um I think we had an
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Apple 2 laser Rider at some point or maybe we had a dot matrix printer I think we actually had that dot makes
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Matrix printer that went like it's like as like the print head went back and forth and you had the
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pages with like the holes all down the side and um we used that thing a ton for
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school and I think we had like carbon paper with for it to you so you could get like carbon copies and stuff I'm not sure why we had that that seems
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excessive but the first later every three months I I print out my uh insurance card on that and put it in my
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car I almost want to get pulled over and ask for my insurance just so I can hand like a a piece of like perforated holes
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in the side paper to a police officer my TRS card is on my iPhone which does that
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mean I have to don't don't don't hand your iPhone to a well that's what I'm wondering like if you get pulled over
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and they ask for your insurance do you have to hand them your phone yeah which you should never do you should never do that especially unlocked as soon as as
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soon as you get pulled over you you need to do the thing where you like squeeze the power inside like the power no sorry
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what is it the volume button and side button so that your phone is locked yeah oh well I don't want to touch my phone
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even when I'm getting pulled over because that's that's a ticket right there like you're touching your phone while you're
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driving well I mean after you stunt presumably while they spend I they care about that dude I don't I don't know if
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they care I I once was driving my car I was at a stoplight fully stopped I was
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doing something on my phone and the freaking cop I was I'm sitting here and
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there's a cop car coming towards me churning he Slams on his brakes in the middle of the intersection and and like
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sits there glaring at me pissed and and he's like sing for me to roll down my window and I'm like yes officer like so
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is there a problem he's like he's like do you do you think I don't see you sitting there on your phone I'm like I'm loading a map or something I'm like I'm
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stopped at a light and he was like you think that matters he's like you should never be touching your phone in in a in
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a vehicle I'm like okay you know thanks for the advice and he sat he glared at
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me so right he glared at me for probably another five seconds you are clearly the danger touching your phone stopped while
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he is just like stops in the middle of a street he slammed out his brakes in the middle intersection could it cause like
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an 18 car pileup and he was so mad I could like see him clenching his jaw and his jaw muscles like bouncing up and
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down I was like this guy is pissed that I was doing he must have been having a bad day he he almost like got out of the
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car and put me in a full nail center like Slamm me down the all right anyway I I may have
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exaggerated that last part but he the jaw the jaw muscles were going man he he was not happy all right let's see here
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uh we finally got the show going um so many techn problems today it's like the
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good old days when elcy was here I I just want to start by shouting out Hugo last who gave us a big fat juicy Super
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Chat and then we had to abandon the entire stream with everyone in it because we couldn't we couldn't continue that broadcast for technical reasons and
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so his Super Chat will forever live on in that in that chat stream where no one will ever see it but I wanted to call it
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out Griffin's given the double tap to his lips raising it to the sky yeah I'm sorry about that Hugo we appreciate the
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Super Chat and El keny is going to love love seeing that go straight to his pocket regardless if anyone else on the stream gets to see it but we saw it and
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that's what counts we have a ton of stuff to talk about we completely forgot uh last week as you can imagine since
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we're so disorganized that this is the month where we do all of our favorite stuff from 2024 and I was telling Lewis
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and Griffin I was like we completely forgot even doing any of this we were supposed to start it in December um
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which I guess we only missed one show so we'll be doing that for probably the rest of the month which is only I guess
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three more episodes and then maybe early January um I don't know it depends we'll see how much stuff we have to talk about
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but all of our favorite stuff from the year gadgets gizmos movies shows um
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there's a ton of stuff to talk about and of course we'll also be doing this week's best apple stories of which there actually is some stuff to talk about
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shockingly considering what time of year it is let me see This Is The Moment of Truth do I have browser mode
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working I certainly do not I certainly do not so let me go ahead and see that because I had to see I pulled a full
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cany which I told people never to do I I went ahead and updated our broadcasting software right before we went live and I
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thought to myself what could possibly go wrong I've been doing this for 13 years I got it I got it unlock and then of
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course I load the show and nothing works is that even working I don't even
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know if that's working oh my goodness I may not even Buble to show it now we are in the limal space where I'm going to
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edit this out of the audio version later YouTube people just have to sit around and listen this is this is actually the good stuff so let me see here if it
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doesn't load I'll just I'll just do it without it I make that decision in logic pro this evening
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so uh okay well that worked but that did not Logic No well you know what you know
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what Griffin though this is going to be a problem because that means we can't do we can't show any of our stories while
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we're um you like actually can't set it up now uh well it's blank for some reason so
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let me try this let me try this I hey you know what no nobody panic nobody
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panic sure feels like a Monday it sounds to me like someone's got a case of the Mondays Louis okay let me try this I
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have a feeling that this is going to work this is not an obstacle I can't overcome I got the entire stream working in like 15 minutes I had to reinstall
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like three different applications 15 different plugins and a partridge and a pear tree I mean could it be so bad the
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YouTube people will just have to instead of looking at the stories they'll just have to look at us oh mean now yeah no
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need Griffin look what's been fixed look what's been fixed we just need to stop the stream um delete everything restart
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the stream restart all of our individual recordings resync everything redo the
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tweets and release our computers shut them off uh I need you to move into the woods I need you to go buy a brand new
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Mac okay install uh Mac OS a snow leopard and and then reinstall Skype and
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this thing's going to be that snow leopard behind me right now we're good okay I'm already ready for that situation think we actually we we are if
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there's ever like an EMP Griffin's going to be the only one with technology that still works let's see here I think we
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got it working so with that let me go ahead and give a huge uh thank you well
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Right In Griffin we got a big year ahead a big big year well maybe a big year
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ahead not necessarily next year a big year it's ahead of us eventually yeah yeah a big year of waiting yep I think
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next year is gonna be a big year but yeah let's let's let's jump into Mac and iPad news sure expect 2026 to be a huge
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year for OLED MacBook and iPad an Apple product Ro match prepared by Amia um I
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looked up this company they're apparently some tech Market analyst
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consultant string of business words sort of company uh their analysts predict
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that both the 14 and 16in MacBook Pro will move to OLED in
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2026 omia also predicts that an iPad Mini with an 8.4 in screen will debut
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the same year while 2026 could be significant in Apple's transition away from traditional LEDs some Mac OS and
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iPad OS computers will'll need to wait longer Apple's mid-range iPad Air tablet
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will get upgraded to OLED in 2027 according to mdia's prediction the the next year and we'll supposedly need to
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wait until 2028 for OLED versions of the 15.5 in and 13.8 in MacBook Air so
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everything is getting to OLED just you know in successive years 20126 MacBook Pro and iPad Mini 2027
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iPad Air 2028 MacBook Air also on om Diaz oh sorry no go ahead any commentary
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there no nothing absolutely nothing go ahead also on mdia's predicted Apple product road map sits an 18.8 in
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computer with a folding display this computer has been the topic of previous rumors but with the projected release
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date slipping back regularly the latest estimate is 2028 more than three years away omia describes it as a tablet slot
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PCM monitor interesting product description uh which makes it seem like
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a sort of iPad and MacBook hybrid okay I was hoping for a MacBook
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Pro level product you know but well they describe it as a computer so we know it's not actually going to be an iPad
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yeah it kind of sounds like a Macbook iPad hybrid monstrosity but with a
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19inch screen I mean if I we've heard I think if it doesn't have a physical keyboard
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and it is all screen on the inside maybe that's not the case but that's certainly what people imagined first that makes me
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think it's got to be iPad and not MacBook yeah kind of MacBooks need to
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have a keyboard and a touchpad of some kind right oh just type on class it'll be just like the old uh what was that
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thing called The Butterfly keyboard that butterfly keyboard and Revolution just like that MacBooks for four years until
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they revolutionized it again better do you guys remember the the MacBook wheel or the iBook wheel I forget what they
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called it in the parody but oh in an effort to like continue simplifying
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their computers there was like this parody video I think it was the onion I forget who did it it was forever ago
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where they replaced the keyboard with the with the Wheel from the iPod you never saw that video and they
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did like a Johnny ey video talking about how like uh you know focused streamed 45
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minutes composing a short email like it's so simple to like navigate to the letter that you want all
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you do is turn the wheel till you get to the Lea press the center button and then go back to the other letter that you want you never saw that video no don't
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think so yeah well it exists it's probably on YouTube leis if you're sure so curious sure okay go watch it right
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now well maybe wait till after the show I would bring it up but that's um
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that's copyright strike for sure if you want to get the stream taken down for a non-technical reason that's the way to
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do it that's the way to do it right there all right well it's disappointing that we're going to be waiting so long
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for these updates but this is the reason why I've decided to upgrade to the M4
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MacBook Pro I think I think Now's the Time to do it like if you have an M1 Max I mean first of all I could totally see
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you waiting until the OLED updates for the MacBook Pro especially if all you're
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doing is video editing because the increases in performance with just video
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editing even though are definitely there they're not so substantial that I think
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that you need to upgrade unless you're doing like really crazy timelines or something I mean the M4 Max chip is a
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destroyer across every other application um in huge ways but in in in Final Cut
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Pro and in Da Vinci it's per performance Isn't So pronounced I think that you need to upgrade but still if you want to
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upgrade Now's the Time to do it it gives you two years until the OLED version comes out because you know you can't you
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can't buy a Mac and then upgrade a year later that just seems frivolous I I think I think
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upgrading just every two years is insane from my perspective I think I I think you might be right like every two years seems like it's Overkill but I think
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that the OLED upgrade is going to be such a huge difference in visual
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performance that for that reason alone I think I may be interested in it I may wait a year after it comes out I don't know I just I'm itching so bad to get a
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new Macbook Pro I like I want a reason to have to upgrade which maybe seems silly
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but so it seems like now is like the perfect time to go ahead and do it and get like some huge increases in
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performance you get the brighter screen uh you get Thunderbolt 5 I mean there's a ton of features that I think are
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probably worth upgrading to I don't know I'm on the fence I'm actually it sounds to it sounds to me
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like the M5 is going to be one to skip like we we've heard multip people multiple sources say that the M5
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generation isn't going to be very impressive of a leap and like you know who who buys a Macbook the year before
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they go to OLED so it sounds to me like you know L people who don't upgrade M1 to M4 M1 to M6 that's going to be a yeah
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that's gonna be a hearty year that's a that's a good way to kind of summ it up I mean that is a tldr either do it now
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or wait until the m6 the the M5 if you bu the M5 I mean you're you're making a
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horrific mistake one of the one of the worst mistakes of your life I would say you know what I'm saying loose there's a
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lot of mistakes I can remember but that would be one that sounds very accurate yeah so I think I'm gonna go for it I'm
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also trying to figure out whether or not I want to do so I want to get a new iPad 2 and I'm trying to figure out whether I
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should do the 11 inch or just go for the big dog and go for the 13 inch I just
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don't know if 13inch is livable it seems like it might be too unwieldy
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but they've made it lighter and it has that beautiful OLED to screen I mean they both have the OLED but so by by
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adding OLED they were able to shrink it way down it's super thin and super light and so I think for that reason it might
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be usable but have you have you touched one in the store because it's not really but it's hard to tell it's the fact that
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it's like as wide as a lunch tray you know yeah that's what I'm not sure I think you should only get the 13in one
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if you on using it with like the keyboard and trackpad accessory because then it's kind of like a and or if you
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want to get work on it which you also wouldn't do I just I just would love to
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have the extra screen real estate for the you have you're get you're getting a 16-inch MacBook Pro for that I know but
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I don't use my 16-inch MacBook Pro in bed like the like my specific use case
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is I often have a YouTube picture and picture video in one of the corners and
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the more screen real estate you get the larger that video is and then I'm browsing like the web or an app behind
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the video and so when you get a larger screen you get a larger picture and picture video and for me I feel like I
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would that would actually be worth the money for me especially since I have this iPad for you know probably five or six or
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even seven years I mean they last forever Ed Hayes from the chat 13-inch iPad is great for movies I mean that's
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the other thing for flights for watching movies on the go
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but is is it too large and too in charge is it going to be something that
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I can't comfortably use in bed that's I'm just not sure of and they're pretty big man I tried to lay on the ground
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with it at the Apple store and they stopped they called security you know so there's no way to know until you get the
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thing home well you got two weeks I know I that that is true but the but the
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challenge is is I'm being connected with a discount right and it's like if you buy an iPad or any Apple device with a
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discount and you return it did you just burn up the discount for no reason right
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wouldn't it translate wouldn't they I don't know I should I should probably check into that and I would hate i'
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would feel horrible to waste it so like if I didn't like it I would probably just keep it just for that reason like
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someone gives you a discount you don't say yeah thanks I don't want it though and then return it no no that's not
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happening although someone from the very exclusive cult club actually said uh and I followed up on them way too late sorry
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we're way off in the weeds um they pinged me in the C club and they
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said I love the 13-inch iPad so much that I want to buy one with more storage
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and the um anti-reflective coating do you want to buy my current 13inch and I
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was like oh I mean maybe how much do you want for it but I saw the message yesterday and they messaged me I think
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like in November sometimes so it's probably not available anymore so I'm back to probably buying one from Apple
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so I don't I know Ros Hall the artist who made one of the creepiest depictions
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of Leander Kenny I've ever seen although accurate he had him sitting on my lap and I was dressed in a Santa costume
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that was a work of art of art Raz it scared Leander greatly he talked about it for years after that and I think he
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needed therapy to get past it but um incredible artist Ros Hall longtime
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cultcast listener and he says big is beautiful it's the perfect size 13 inch
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is the perfect size yeah especially if you're doing art uh the tech Enthusiast screen size is is all an illusion just
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put your face closer to it he's a philosopher I mean that's that's that's
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not bad although my eyeballs are deteriorating rapidly as I age and I'm
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not sure I'll be able to see anything in fact I just realized I'm the only person here without glasses although I probably should be wearing them so I don't know
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I'm on the fence but I don't know does anyone care to listen to me go on and on about this probably not so we should probably continue you want to talk about
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what people might be caring about Lewis something that they actually might find practical in their own
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lives sure MacBooks with 5G cellular might
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actually happen very exciting a Macbook capable of directly connecting to 5G
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cellular Wilders networks is one potential result of the modem that Apple intends to introduce in
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2025 according to never guess who Mark German oh yeah Porter with publication I
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believe called Bloomberg uh he he wrote with its own modem in the pipeline apple is
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investigating the idea of bringing cellular connectivity to the Mac for the first time Cellular Connections are
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unlikely to come to the Mac before 2026 when Apple is planning second generation modem that includes support
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for faster speed said his report so you know once again 2026
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initial version won't be able to match qualcomm's best according to Bloomberg it'll lack 5G millimeter wave support
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which is you know so useful in so many instances all around the country game Chang just everywhere you
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look uh one of the reasons Apple wants to switch from using Qualcomm modems to in-house ones is to save money at least
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20% of Qualcomm Revenue comes from Apple but other is to reduce the size of the modem Apple quote designed the new modem
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code named copee sopee yeah to be more
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tightly integrated with other in-house components that means it requires less space and less battery power according to Bloomberg the smaller chip will go to
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the iPhone se4 expected in the spring and the iPhone 17 air that's that slim one that
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we keep hearing about oh yeah uh expected in the fall so wouldn't this be great you
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actually don't have to go through the long overdue hot long
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overdue I mean what is the holdup man they added it to the iPad had yeah it's
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kind of it's kind of weird isn't it that it doesn't have that and that that the Mac doesn't have face ID we we had
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another post about that this week face ID I I think I understand and and I really yeah because according to our
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favorite reporter flark Sherman he said a while ago that the reason that they
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haven't added it is because the lid is so thin that it can't it doesn't have enough space to contain all the face ID
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Hardware which which actually makes sense right because
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the iPhone is thicker than this than the lid of your MacBook Pro and so they have to shrink all those computer or those
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components down I I I freaking hate the notch on the MacBook Pro and I'll tell you why it's for it's not for a reason
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that's obvious okay it is because I have a ton of so I use um this application I
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shouldn't even mention their name without sending them a bill I should just send them a bill for even mentioning this here cuz it's going to
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just Skyrocket their sales IAT menu which puts a whole Suite of tremendously
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useful icons in your menu bar and shows you I mean you could customize the heck
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out of this thing you can show your internet bandwidth you could se you could show uh the temperature of your
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CPU and GPU which of your GPU or uh CPU cores are being utilized whether it's
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performance or efficiency I mean so much just nerdy stuff I love it so my menu
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bar is absolutely crammed with icons but when they added that dang
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Notch they changed the they changed the display in that menu bar such that
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no menu bar icons can go on the left side of the notch which you used to be able to take up like your whole top of
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your screen so you can only have now like a limited selection of icons that
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display in your menu bar this is unbelievably nerdy stuff I mean does anyone care about this this is
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horrifying to hear you so many you have so many icons in your stat menu bar that it goes over the middle it it can't go
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over the M the middle that's my point that's a that's a barrier from W you
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can't you you you you can't go past that that is the worst thing you've ever said on the show I'm just hearing myself say
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it out loud is one of the most depressing moments of my life and I apologize to everyone who's listening to this program but it is the trth I turn
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off everything from showing a menu I have like five icons in my menu bar and honestly I could remove like several of
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them well look not everyone can be a power user Griffin so I understand you know you get overwhelmed by too much
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information me I want my menu bar to be like the cockpit of a 777 jumbo jet are
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the 777s jumbo but I only want it to be like half an inch high and in the upper right corner well the nice thing is you
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you can you can change the colors such that they become very easy to see which is kind of critical for me God see you
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have good ugly technol rainbow of these horrible icons just it's it's it's a
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it's a beautiful array of just non-stop mini widgets across my screen I can see everything I can see a bunch of RAM is
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being used any one moment how much compression is happening I can see
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CPU about that information why why don't you just open activ come on you don't need information to be you know acable
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you use any of that you just you just like look at it constantly all the time I use it all the time I I I'm a big fan
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of data it's the same reason why I'm always pitching these uh these dang um
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USBC cables with a screen on it that you that will show you how much wattage is
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being used by the device that's being plugged into it super useful I mean it's just interesting information I can see
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if my iPhone is fast charging or if it's getting close to being done charging because the wattage starts to um
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decrease I mean there's just all this useful information I maybe it's just me a lot of you probably would find this um
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maybe not aesthetically pleasing but I love it man so in any case the notch ruined all that and that's the reason
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why I'm waiting for the notch to finally be retired because I want to have those big beautiful icons across my entire
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display when I connect to the studio display no Notch I have like 16 in of I
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stat widgets going across the top of the screen you know what you need airphone you need to buy a Vision Pro again so
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that you can use the Mac virtual display ultrawide imagine how many icons you could put on there that's a reason to
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spend $4,000 it like wraps around like your entire like frontal view it's insane yeah I mean bringing it back
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around a little bit yeah uh would you be interested in buying the cellular model if it's available
33:10
when yeah you buy I absolutely would I absolutely would um well now that I think about it I mean
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yes until I think about AT&T trying to stick their hands in my pockets to force me to pay to connect my device to the to
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the data that I'm already paying for it's like I I went to I was in a parking garage last night and they had a little
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QR code that said pay for your parking before you leave and I was like oh that seems handy so I went to a musical last
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night I love musicals I could do a whole cast off topic about musicals one of the Great American art forms I saw Mary
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Poppins excellent absolutely excellent but should do one on musicals yeah I
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mean maybe we should I mean we're we're all musical people that actually might be an interesting conversation and um so I'm in the
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parking garage everyone's leaving and I'm on like level five and it's you know
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car to car to car backup all the way to level five because we're all trying to get out of the parking garage so I see this QR code and I'm like oh that seems
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interesting so I scan it and I'm going to pay first of all these Baron robbers want uh robber barons right what 20 yeah
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well they're trying to rob the baron I mean I do call myself the baron when I because I dress like a baron when I go to the musical right I have a whole
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outfit makes makes sense yeah I have like this elaborate outfit with the jeweled mask and stuff but they want to
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charge me 75 cents so the parking goes from $25 25 bucks for like four hours of
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parking and then I noticed that's $25.75 and I'm like why is there 75 cents I see
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that there's a service fee I'm like you're going to charge me a fee to pay you I draw the line somewhere I'm like I
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bet you if I just wait until I get to the bottom of the garage they'll just let me pay and there will there'll be no
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fee and sure enough I I wait I get to the bottom of the garage and they just charge me $5 I'm like why would I pay
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you 75 to to pay you early so you're getting my money faster and I'm stuck in line I
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have to wait in this line no matter what and now you're charging me like a quote unquote convenience fee to to pay you
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ahead of time when I have to go through that dang um Turn Style anyway to get my
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car out of here if you'd have paid that maybe there like one of those big crane arms like in those those games just
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picked your car and gently set you on the sidewalk that would have been worth the 75 now that's something I would pay
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for maybe I just drive to the top and it's like of course have you ever used
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one of those crane arms it never works well for the toy Lewis that's true the toy never makes it all the way down to
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the drop zone so maybe they have to rethink that in any case um man Ross
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Hall saying Face Unlock never works on his iPad it it it works flawlessly for me even in different orientations Ros
35:56
Hall saying the face unlock never works on his iPad oh face ID really I mean I
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could have my face ID is just astoundingly good I I I often will walk with my face obscured like at night
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because it's partially covered it still works I'll use my iPad like in various orientations I sometimes use my iPad
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upside Downs when I'm charging it at night still works I don't know man maybe maybe it's
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not the iPad maybe it's your face something to consider maybe just you
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know scan it over again see if it fixes it I I bet he wears glasses and he needs to do like the extra face ID step where
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you scan it with and without your glasses sometimes that makes a difference good tip uh all right you know what I know
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that in the show notes the order is we go to iOS 18.2 new features next but I
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think as long as we're talking about Hardware let me just crank out this Apple watch Ultra 3 story but before we
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do that let me just promote a great idea if you're like me you like to keep your
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system and for some of you this week you're going to become aware of that when you realize that your order just
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it's been fixed and we're getting ready to ship out some of these orders that kind of fell through the crack somehow which drives me nuts and I don't know
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right let me talk about the Apple watch Ultra 3 just real quick this is one that I've been waiting
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for oh my goodness over Black Friday still even now I keep seeing liquidation prices on Ultra twos I mean there have
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been some eBay deals 500 bucks for the ultra 2 500 bucks for the ultra 2 and I
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almost bit a couple times but I just can't we're so close to the ultra 3 at this point that it doesn't make sense to
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to buy the ultra 2 in my opinion although unless you don't have an Apple Watch then I think it actually might I have the one so it's not worth it for me
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it might be worth it for you though but you might be wondering to yourself what can we expect with the ultra 3 so we've
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got some more Intel from uh gar blur over at
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Bloomberg he had a report the satellite capability is slated to come to next year's Apple watch Ultra the company's
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top-of-the-line model the technology will let smart Smartwatch users send off the grid messages when they don't have
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cellular or Wi-Fi connection okay not my favorite feature
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ever but I'll take it I would also love a brighter display because the display
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can literally never be bright enough so that would be a welcome feature but we'll see I think currently they top out
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at 3,000 nits which is actually dang bright even in bright sunlight
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completely seeable now there is a certain brightness at which when you look at your watch then look away you still see the watch time because it's
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just burned into your eyes so we might be getting to that point but um until we
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reach the point where it's permanent I think they they should keep going let's see here the so that that feature could
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be the big differentiating feature between the ultra models and the entry level Watchers
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although um it seems as though another potential Improvement could be the uh
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the arrival of blood pressure monitoring now not in the way that you probably
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wish so according to the report uh glark saying
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that the Apple watch Ultra will seemingly alert you to situations where
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your blood pressure is elevating like in scenarios where people keep mispronouncing your name or maybe you
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just got your property tax assessment and you see that your property taxes are going up 10% this year that could do it
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as well so it won't actually tell you your blood pressure it will just alert you to the to the fact that your blood
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pressure is high or that it's increasing so still
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useful I'm not sure one that I would use cuz I feel like these kind of features just stress me out you know um cuz you
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noticed that you're stressed right now you're saying that wouldn't call me down it it's like it's like a it it it's a I
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don't even know how to describe it like infinite Loop scenario no chicken in the egg scenario it's like where I get
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stressed out thinking that maybe it's going to catch something bad and then because I'm stressing out it gives me an
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alert that something bad is currently occurring so I don't know man these these some of these features I I feel
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like just give me stress and so I turn some of them off but maybe useful for
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people who want to monitor their blood pressure on the go uh maybe there's too many spelling errors or grammar issues
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within a c toac article and you need to know to take your pills because you're about to blow your lid WordPress locks
42:16
you out for no reason at all uh your YouTube stream is just deleted and you have to start a new one even though you
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have super chats that have been donated you know there's so many things your watch starts d on your wrist like it's a
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Tsunami alert yeah there's a whole plethora of situations so to me I don't
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actually care what they do um to be honest as long as there's some decent features I'm going to buy it I want the
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new app Apple Watch 2 or I should say the Apple Watch 2 with the new straps
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and possibly the new color although I think I'll probably do natural titanium again but the one is just so great still
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man it's just such a terrific product and it does everything I need so there's really no reason to upgrade right now
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but that's what seems like is on the way for Apple watch Ultra 3 for those of you
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who think that you might be upgrading any commentary about that chaps you know even if the Apple watch Ultra is the
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only one that gets that blood pressure monitoring and it requires a special band that's you know bulky or blows
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itself up like those things you get at the doctor's office or not the aesthetic it's match the aesthetic of the Apple
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watch Ultra right whereas like the regular Apple watch is you know a thin little like round little Pebble fashion
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fashion sort of thing like if it's like a big chunky thing that looks kind of weird I don't think it's going to be
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that I think they're going to use whatever sensors are already included in the watch which is the probably the
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reason why they can't give you an accurate uh diastolic and systolic
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pressure reading how did I remember those terms don't even I don't even know um and they can only tell you an
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indication of maybe what's happening trending wise but I don't know dude there's no way it's going to inflate or
43:59
be bulky there's no way there's no way it' be pretty funny if it did though
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that would be hilarious was there an indication that the blood pressure would only be on the ultra that seems crazy to
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me like no it's only it's only described that way in this article it doesn't mention it coming to the regular models
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mhm I mean I think if they're able to pull that together they're going to put it in the regular watch it will probably
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go in the series 11 as well you're probably right about that it just doesn't seem like a I mean like who who
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are the least likely people to be worried about their blood pressure probably people who are you know I mean
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because everybody's got an Apple Watch Ultra we're out climbing mountains we're skin diving we're uh skin skin diving
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skin diving and and uh yeah and also sounds like something Hannibal Lector does what are you doing in your personal
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life yeah you know I love the Apple watch Ultra but I haven't noticed a great uptick in My Outdoor Adventures
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despite all those gorgeous aspirational uh things that you can do with it I
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haven't either but mountain climbing I'm not doing any of that adventurous stuff but I like having the option um and
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maybe you would get this I have aspirations leis I I use the uh Sirin one time just out in the middle of
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nowhere just for laughs did you was it loud yeah really I haven't even tried it
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I would say most of the features now in the air okay yeah you got it live demo I
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would say most of the features on the ultra I I don't actually take advantage of um I bought it for purely
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narcissistic reasons I just love the way it looks and I think it is one of the best looking watches on a on a on a
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man's wrist that you can get Aesthetics and battery life and it makes me feel like a character from
45:46
Fallout like did you ever see the the show you watched the show did you Louis yeah I love that show dude me too that
45:51
show was great speaking of show Silo 2 season two oh mama it's getting good I
45:58
could go into so many tangents right now oh my gosh we gotta hold off we basically have like a tangent section of
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the show at the end I guess that's true Griffin the voice of reason okay let's see
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here I think that's it you want to talk about iOS 18.2 and rattle off this list
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of stuff that people can play around with Griffin I know you're dying too sure uh so we've talked about a little
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bit about this uh on the show in previous weeks iOS 18 18.2 drops a huge
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huge number of features even if you're not interested in apple intelligence or you have an older phone there's a lot to
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unpack in this update although I guess we can briefly run through that uh image playground gen Emoji visual intelligence
46:38
have either of you used that feature the the hot feature of your act or camera control button i' completely forgotten
46:45
what that is I have I've tried it out but I have not like I haven't used the thing where you can point it like a
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flyer on a you know telephone pole or a cafe window or whatever and uh I've just used it like
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in my office like oh yeah uh but like I pointed it at this this
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um what is it's a audio input you know what it said this is an audio input I'm
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like really okay audio input device wow that was helpful uh yeah have you used
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you you said you've used it a little bit out in the real world right like on the streets I actually did use it while I
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was in Philadelphia over the weekend I was you know we're brotherly love yeah yeah pointed it at a restaurant and I
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was like oh well here's their menu right here do we want to eat you know does this stuff look good to you you know you don't have to like walk up to the window
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and read it if or like you know walk in and see what the vibe is you know you can just check it out right there so that worked well yeah yeah how you know
47:44
why it works so well because it's not actually Apple intelligence-based it just uses your GPS data and references
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that location with Apple Maps to figure out what building you're probably looking at right which is why it's so
47:56
Rel ible I was going to ask you how Philadelphia was but let's not do that
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because you got you got more here to go through this is only going to delay yeah sure um chat GPT and Siri if you ask
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Siri a thing that instead of saying here's what I found on the web It'll ask chat GPT instead I don't know it's not
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it's not the best interface like if you're if you want to ask chat GPT a question you're probably better off just like opening the chat GPT app because
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you can have like a full back and forth dialogue there but for the people who don't like to use it yeah
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I haven't tried this one and it's I think it's gonna take me I have to take a concerted effort to do it because I've have quit asking Siri any questions
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there's never an answer that's useful or anything you know I mean maybe the weather sometimes it gets the weather
48:40
right I mean Siri is the is the problem I mean if you just go directly in one of these other platforms and it can
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understand you you've just avoided yourself uh you know 10 minutes of frustration or you know the the problem
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is if you go through Siri you're going to spend at least five minutes correcting what you were trying to say
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and it's just faster to go use the platform of your choice to get that answer directly unless you type it in I
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guess anyways other new features daily sidoku puzzles and Apple news plus these
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are actually really good I've been playing those pretty much every day they're they they have three different puzzles you can do an easy a medium and
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a hard yep um good good stuff there if you need help finding an air tag you can
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now get the help of somebody else you can like share your air tag temporarily with somebody not like a permanent thing
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it's like fun SC hunt that's a handy yeah yeah so like if you know you you
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know your luggage or something like that is in like an employee only area you can like you know share it with an employee
49:44
you know somebody who works at the airport and be like hey just go in there and get it for me will you that could be handy um automatic categorization of
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your inbox in Apple Mail this is actually kind of handy as well you can tap and
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different like tabs of your inbox and filter it by promotions mailing lists
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you know updates orders stuff receipts stuff like that kind of Handy most I I
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take very good care of my inbox but I know a lot of people don't oh my gosh mine is a wasteland of Broken Dreams and
50:15
unread messages here's a really really awesome one that I think is going to be like one
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of those hidden features that people talk about all the time and once you hear this you can be of those people who
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knows about it before anybody else if you select a piece of text in Safari
50:33
that little you know black yeah popup tab comes up where it says copy paste whatever you can swipe over on that and
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there's an option called copy link with highlight then when you paste that link and somebody opens it it'll scroll to
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that part of the page automatically and highlight what you selected in yellow that's Bonkers they must have to be using Safari no it's actually an open
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web standard that Safari is actually kind of late at implementing it's been a feature in Chrome and Firefox for a
50:59
while I've never heard of this feature on any browser it's a new it's a new kind of like URL structure that you can
51:04
append to a URL how would you use this feature in in Chrome is it just like a
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right click I don't know how you why don't I check I'm using uh Brave right now let's
51:17
see n no doesn't work garbage complete garbage
51:26
probably works in Safari though yeah yeah all right uh let's see multitrack recording in voice memos so you can sing
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along in a voice memo and then harmonize with yourself if you really want to I mean hey something to do on your board
51:40
and let's see oh this is this is one that I don't care about but I know a lot of people do if you're irritated that the new lock screen design doesn't
51:46
always show the volume button like the volume slider on the lock screen of your phone you can turn that back on in
51:53
settings accessibility I think like audio and visual and there's an option to always show volume control on the
51:58
lock screen I mean kind okay yeah yeah there's a number of new camera control
52:04
features you can now have the camera control instantly open with one click even when your phone is asleep uh which
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I turned on this feature when I was making my video and article about this over the weekend and then I discovered
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hey my phone is really hot in my pocket and then I found out that my because I enabled that my camera
52:25
control is activ all the time in my pocket unintentionally and just like recording videos in my pocket taking
52:32
pictures of the ground and stuff like that so don't enable that but you
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can uh let's see yeah that's pretty much it you there there's a new feature where you can type to Siri and add a button to
52:44
that in control center Apple intelligence is now available in other dialects of English like UK English
52:51
Irish English but other stuff like that I think I've been using Irish English
52:58
have a male a male Irish Siri now he's like top of the mar you what can I do for you
53:05
today it's kind of nice have you been uh messing around more with image playground and Jin
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Emoji uh after every beta update and um release candidate I was testing to see
53:18
if it's gotten any better it hasn't it's still kind of garbage um I've I've now
53:23
learned how to make an almost decent like image playground depiction of myself in the animated style but I don't
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know if I think we missed this when we were talking about it last week The Illustrated style is just makes an ugly
53:39
version of everybody oh that could be fun it's kind of horrible let me
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actually I'm gonna bring up an example I just find ah yeah go I okay I I don't
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understand why for the love of God it can't put the proper number of legs on an animal I mean that is a a a just a a
54:01
problem for almost all AI engines except well it doesn't know how to do fingers
54:07
it doesn't know how to do eyeballs correctly it can't do words I can I can kind of understand like fingers might be
54:13
hard to draw or whatever you know and you get a weird hand but but like when in apple and or you know image
54:20
playground you say make a picture of a camel with a football this is what this
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is my sample the other day make a picture of a camel with a football in a stadium and you know first one comes out
54:33
five-legged camel six second one comes out six-legged camel third one I don't
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know five six seven can't remember more than normal uh finally it got to one
54:46
where that actually had four legs but then the football was like a it was like a basketball or something it I mean how
54:54
is it I I can kind okay I can see how maybe football is confusing to it because it means two different things it
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means a soccer ball it means a football but a camel why can't it get four legs on a
55:08
camel I could see this upsets you it I just find it so stupid I I can't I can't
55:17
like nobody has been able to explain to me why that would happen I don't know why either but it it is a problem
55:23
because it doesn't actually know anything about Anatomy it just knows patterns and it knows oh camels have legs underneath them and so it just
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draws an amount of leg still like you would think that it would be able to look at enough pictures of camels to
55:35
realize camels have four legs right or or or somebody could type in camels have
55:41
four legs dogs have leg know what a leg is it doesn't know what a leg is or what it
55:47
looks like knows that a picture of a camel is shaped generally like that so
55:53
and yeah like the better AI engines like mid Journey like they have dialed that stuff out every every AI engine has its
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own strengths like grock the one that um you can use actually you can use it now if you are a Twitter premium or not a
56:08
Twitter I don't know what their different subscription levels it's like it's like the very first level cost like eight bucks a month or something you now
56:15
get access to grock and I don't think that used to be included which is like their um generative AI engine and as far
56:23
as I've seen Gro is like the absolute best at recreating pictures of people out in the
56:30
public like that Tim Wells picture I sent you leis right just as a mailman
56:36
like that was Gro almost no other AI engines are good at making a replica of
56:44
a real life person that it would know right but like that picture was crazy good I made another one of Walt Disney
56:51
spoton I mean and mid Journey's thing is like it gives you the right amount of hands
56:57
right amount of fingers your eyeballs look normal um and apples I just feel like it's just it's just kind of like
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maybe a couple years behind some of these other tools sorry Griffin you were going somewhere with this oh yeah so I I brought in an example picture if I give
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it the right input picture into image playground it actually looks almost good
57:17
that looks like you and I and I told it you know black button down shirt it it kind of looks like me that that is one
57:22
of the better ones I've seen to be honest with you then you switch over to the Illustrated style and like that guy
57:29
is like 10 years older and like maybe that looks like your dad it looks like
57:34
it looks like you although it it did catch the the barely visible uh stubble
57:40
on your chin yeah but like it all of them look like this that's not me and
57:45
like all of them look like that looks glasses like that that that kind of
57:51
looks like Alexi Heath it looks like a macw World magazine um like writer ill
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ation from like 1992 yeah yeah I don't know why and I and I've tried it with other people like
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not just me other people in my photo library it gives a you know almost flattering image in the animated style
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you switch over to Illustrated and it's just horrifying and like almost insulting like I wouldn't actually show
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them to any of these people because they'd be like do I look like that that that makes me feel bad this is the problem with image playground I I it's
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not that it's not I just feel like it's not useful it's it is really it's it's
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it's it's a a photo booth 2024 Edition right like it's something that is fun to
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play around with for like 10 minutes and then you put it away and you never think about it again and I think it will get better but ever since Apple announced
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all this AI stuff like their stock price has just been going bonkers in fact the last week or two it's rallied again it's
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the highest it's ever been which I love you know cuz my my my stock is just
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outrageous I can't believe how much it's worth now know I I need to show this too I just made I just made a one U of airon
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of you a let's see you're not ready for this I probably oh
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[Laughter] my that is the
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most I it's like seeing a car accident I Can't Take My Eyes away from it it gets it gets it gets the essence of you I
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wouldn't say that say how can I make this ugly in every possible facet it's like transport you 10 or 15
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you had an evil twin doppelganger who was considering adult films this is what he would look
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like let me see that again really want to my Lord it kind of
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got my hair but that made it gray look look I
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mean it's like white and I should also say that like the white balance on the my camera is
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trying to adjust the white balance your face is like orange well it also looks like I have like a ski mask tan you know
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it's like the top like like ski goggles tan it looks like the middle of my face is like white and the top of the bottom
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are like tan look like I just got the slopes at some unheard of skiing Resort
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because I can't afford the good the good ones good G that's horrible I you know you're right man if you're listening to
1:00:14
the audio version check the chapter artwork if you really want to I don't think you should just don't look at it
1:00:19
while you're driving okay I think we should probably go ahead we're we're so long now we got
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to go ahead and dive into our best stuff of the year is there anything else on the iOS 18.2 front that needs to be
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called out before we move on with our lives the update is available now all right every nobody can update all right I mean everyone here probably already
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has it but um all right let's um let's move on to
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one of my favorite segments of the whole year man I really love this segment in fact I'd probably do it every week to be honestly it's like a favorite stuff this
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is this 2024 Edition I got so much stuff to talk about and I just bought a bunch of stuff for Black Friday too I really
1:00:57
need to do a better job asking people to send me stuff I just it's so much work to get to like write the emails reach
1:01:04
out to people tell them what you're doing like who you are and to get them to send you stuff um I've been trying to
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do more of it it's just so much easier to buy stuff but then you got to spend all this money but then you're then you then you're using your own money so it's
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like your your impression of the product I feel like is it's its most pure and accurate form so there are pros and cons
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to each but in any case I feel like I have a lot of stuff to talk about which we'll probably work into up future shows but this is anything that you want to
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pitch favorite stuff of 2024 Edition I think historically we've done it by category I don't think we need to do
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that just start with whatever you whatever comes to your mind just go ahead and start with that thing and
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we'll go from there and maybe do one or two each because we're going to be doing this for like the next three or four weeks and we'll just see where it takes
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we'll see where the road goes leis I would love for you to start really yeah oh gez oh geez oh geez don't
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make me do it all right so uh this is a new product came
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out this year I don't know if you can see it it's uh it looks like a golf ball
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it is not a golf ball you got the Beats oh no those aren't beats those are an it does kind of looks like the Beats thing
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doesn't it those are um they're called Sleep
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a20 buts okay and they're made by sound core which is Anchor's uh
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audio division yeah and um these things are they they solve the pro one problem
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that I have with airpods which is I like to listen to stuff as I go to sleep I like to sit there and listen to air uh
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podcast while I'm drifting off to sleep yeah or you know worse yet when I wake up in the middle of the night
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um and and the problem is airpods are super uncomfortable you can't lay on
1:02:51
your side with them right in your ears you'll wake up feeling like I mean I can but everyone's ears are different I sure
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can't man I I I wake up feeling like somebody drilled out my ear if I do that okay um so these things they they've got
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you know they've got the little uh silicone tips and it's kind of a special weird silicone tip it's got like two
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layers and it it kind of it it acts as a a physical barrier so it it's blocking
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out sound as you sleep it's got the little wing tips on the top you know or ear ear wings I can't remember what ear
1:03:23
wigs I don't what those ear wigs it's definitely wig that's something thing from Star Trek 2 the Wrath of KH I
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believe right put them in your ear yeah you don't want that uh and let's see so
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they they fit in your ear they're very small and they don't stick out of your ear so you can you can lie on your side
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you can toss and turn you what did you call that thing again the sound core what sleep a20 a20 okay I'm gonna pull
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it up for the people good people watching yeah so um so I started using
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these you know um I use them every night or or I did
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until um went to Italy the last time and uh one of my problems is I have sleep
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apnea yeah and uh I use a CPAP machine at my house usually although I kind of
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hate it yeah um but I didn't take it to Italy with us it's there's not I
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absolutely hate traveling with one of those things it's absolute nightmare takes up half your suitcase you know
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every every night you have to unpack it you have to figure out where to put it what you know it's just terrible uh so I
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didn't take it and you know after like three days over there you know my my wife you know in the morning is like oh
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my you know she's like about ready to strangle me she's like you're snoring all night you wouldn't you know you wouldn't stop snoring I'm like yeah okay
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I was asleep you know I'm sorry you told me to stop snoring but uh you know it's not like I would said to myself hey self
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snore um I said you know why don't you try these out and I I that
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was the last I got to use them uh so she put them on She's Like H well I've I've
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tried airpods it doesn't work you know and it's uncomfortable and whatever I like get CH try these these are specifically made to block out sound not
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not with active noise cancellation but with like a physical barrier and to be comfortable while you sleep and you know
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how like your iPhone has built in you know relaxation sounds or whatever you know wooded stream
1:05:25
Forest birds all that kind of stuff Babbling Brook this um soundcore has its
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own sleep app or sleep app sound you know it's a separate app for all of its
1:05:37
audio products and so you can go in there to these things and you can select two or three sounds and and you can use
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it like I said you can use it to to stream audio music podcast whatever you can also use it as sleep sounds or
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whatever those whatever the term is for those and so she when in there and she found one that was like I I can't
1:05:58
remember what it was it was like you know had some kind of almost like a technical name like low low resonance G
1:06:04
Factor whatever I don't know what the hell it was um incidentally so so she put in that
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and she's like oh my God I cannot hear you snoring in the room and wow whole
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whole rest of the trip she's like I love I love these things she she like I said I don't I don't get to use them anymore
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cuz she uses them um and let's see so the the other thing about
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it is that the other day she says oh I went in there and it totally changed the app and now they have like different
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sleep sounds in there and um you know like now they actually say like anti-
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snoring this or that you know so um I haven't I haven't actually checked it out because I haven't don't have access but
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um anyway if you want sleep earbuds I think these things are great the only
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thing that I don't really like about them is that sometimes they they like
1:07:00
attack my phone you know like I'm I'm sitting listening to my uh you know listen to a podcast in the middle of the
1:07:05
day and once in a while it'll get grabbed by this is before the wife took over right it's like somehow their their
1:07:12
Bluetooth connections sometimes even when they're in the case will connect to my phone and that is a little bit
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Troublesome but I've had that with other um like Bluetooth speakers and stuff sometimes that'll happen so I don't know
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know I don't know who whose fault that is does does sound core make their Bluetooth connection too strong is it
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are they not shutting off properly because they're not in the case properly I'm not sure exactly what's going on with that small price to pay if you if
1:07:38
you want some earbuds that work great while you're trying to sleep or if you need need some earbuds to try and block
1:07:44
out some snoring I mean they're pretty great they list for I think 149 that's interesting that they work so
1:07:52
well nothing works well for people that snore loud I feel like if you're stuck in a room with someone who snores you
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are just in for a night of frustration and and Elusive sleep like you're not
1:08:06
going to fall asleep there's just nothing you can do yeah and it's the kind of thing like that's the kind of
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sound that noise cancellation ain't great at right no I mean it's great at
1:08:18
slow hum of an airplane or you know driving down the road you know but it's
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those sudden like un yeah and so you know they've they've
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come up with these sounds that like suppress that in addition to just like I said the the physical barrier which
1:08:36
frankly I mean that that's pretty effective too and they're comfortable to wear all night I I think they're very
1:08:42
comfortable see I sleep with a sound machine um in my house and when I I usually wake up at around 5:00 a.m. and
1:08:49
I put earplugs in because when my kids get up like they're so loud that there's just no way and my house is laid out in
1:08:57
such a way that you can hear everything that happens once the kids get up you don't get up until 5:00 a.m. and your
1:09:03
kids are awake before that oh dude no no no I don't wake up at 5: am. I well I
1:09:09
will wake up before them and I just wake up right because it's like early in the
1:09:15
morning and sometimes you just wake up and then I probably trained myself and I'll put my earplugs in and then like an
1:09:21
hour later my kids get up so I try to put them in before my kids wake up because once they're awake if I don't
1:09:27
have them in sometimes I don't have them available to me or I'm just too lazy once they're up man and they're like
1:09:33
arguing with each other and shouting and you know like my son's playing drums and everything in the house it's like dude
1:09:39
there's no going back to sleep after that you know so you continue to horrify me with just basic descriptions of your
1:09:45
lifestyle on this you know it's amazing what you get used to I mean so the
1:09:51
earplugs work great I buy a huge box of earplugs off of Amazon once a year foam
1:09:56
earplug yep yep but sometimes they have a hard time putting them in so like a product like this actually is a is
1:10:02
intriguing to me and uh I should reach out to Anker and see if they'll send me something I mean they're usually pretty
1:10:07
good they send me some charger stuff which I'll probably talk about in future shows outstanding like they have such
1:10:13
great accessories for iPhone and mac and stuff I mean they're just one of the best like their audio stuff I I find
1:10:20
intriguing like I know they're trying to make it happen and I don't know how successful they have been but and their stuff is like pretty affordable in the
1:10:27
audio realm for the most part and it's always built pretty well and the apps
1:10:33
are pretty good you know so it's pretty interesting to see what they're doing this case is kind of I don't know
1:10:39
feels slightly weird and flimsy but and it doesn't have wireless charging which I think is kind of a big uh you know
1:10:46
missing I mean you know I'm getting I'm rapidly getting to the point where I'm used to not plugging things in oh really
1:10:53
so it yeah it starts to feel been still I don't have any I don't have any I
1:10:58
don't have very many wireless chargers around my house that that work with mag
1:11:04
safe um I need to I probably need to buy some stuff I'm just I don't have very
1:11:09
much recommendations so start buying yeah uh I I suppose I should say yeah these are review unit as well and and
1:11:16
turns out um my wife ended up writing a review of these for the website really
1:11:21
wow her headline was something like you know I've never written anything before how
1:11:26
does WordPress work these might stop you from killing your snoring husband I mean not that she hasn't tried
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yeah see the Li l lot of a lot of scar tissue built up it's not so easy anymore
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all right cool those are the soundcore sleep a20s by Ana sleep earbuds I'm
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gonna go next I'm gonna go next and I feel like this is something you got to act on
1:11:50
Fast my friends it's the year of griddles it's the year of griddles I've done all the research for you I've done
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huge amounts of research and I'll tell you what I bought and there is an a there is an absolutely killer deal
1:12:04
that's going on right now where if you heard me talk about griddles in the past and you're like oh this guy might be on to something I like bacon I like making
1:12:10
eggs you know if you've ever thought about getting a griddle if it's interesting you to you in any way
1:12:17
unfortunately this deal is really only good for people in the US now now is your time to act there are a lot of
1:12:23
griddles out there black is the most popular model I would steer you away from Blackstone and I would steer you
1:12:30
towards one of the products made byber now trigger is also making a a griddle as well right now but it's like $800 I
1:12:37
mean the thing is nice and it actually cooks really well but Weber has a new
1:12:43
line of griddles that are like a pair down version of like the really premium grade uh uh uh Weber griddles and
1:12:50
they're still built really well they don't have like all the bells and whistles but you don't need a lot of bells and whistles in my humble opinion
1:12:55
there's really only a few features that you need and the most important one is you need the flat top surface to cook
1:13:03
evenly you need to be able to cook everything at the same speed across the
1:13:08
entire cooking service and that or service surface and that's something that many griddles don't do blackstones
1:13:15
seem to not do at all and so there is a giddle that I bought it's on Amazon at
1:13:22
this very moment that I speak to you for which you you hear my voice
1:13:27
$450 I have been waiting for this thing to go on sale forever and it just
1:13:32
doesn't drop that often and then on a whim I went on Costco's website and I
1:13:40
noticed that they had it on sale and they were selling it for $ 319 and I was like this is crazy Amazon is selling
1:13:46
this for $130 more right this moment so I ordered it right great
1:13:52
griddle in the last week up until I think end of day on December 13th they
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have it on sale it's now
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$270 which is from Amazon or Costco this is from Costco Costco has the thing $50
1:14:10
off they're already insane price of $320 so until the end of day December
1:14:17
13th they have this for $270 which is a absolute Bonkers deal so if you have
1:14:24
been in any of the The Griddle talk which is probably to be the name of my new podcast to talk about griddles and how
1:14:32
much I love them and Hower is interested in them and you need one more Christmas gift or that I mean you could buy this
1:14:38
thing and use it for you know a couple months see how you like it and if you don't like like it Costco will just take it back so act fast if you have been
1:14:48
interested in griddles but griddles are just such an absolutely useful tool for
1:14:56
moving the cooking out of your house like everyone has a grill I love my grill I use my grill all the time my
1:15:01
grill is also Weber it's one that connects to my natural gas line on my house which is super convenient because I don't have to worry about you know
1:15:08
replacing propane tanks but this new griddle I mean it uses propane fine whatever um but what I love about
1:15:15
griddles is just they they're they unbelievable versatility I mean having a flat top that you can cook sausages or
1:15:22
hot dogs or onions or or bell peppers or eggs or toast or bacon I mean you name
1:15:29
it having like a professional large space to cook whatever you want out
1:15:34
there it opens up a A Whole New World of cooking opportunities outside and I love
1:15:40
cooking outside because there's no cleanup you just cook it and then you just go inside and you're done like you don't have to wipe down your whole stove
1:15:46
if you're making bacon inside the grease sprays all over the place it's on the floor you know now you got oil Hazard on
1:15:52
the floor your dog's constantly roaming around try to lick your feet in the floor and I mean I just so I want to
1:15:58
move all that stuff Outdoors you don't have you know house stink from whatever you're making and this is the year now
1:16:04
griddles have been around for years but I feel like they finally come into their Prime now you could finally get a griddle that cooks really well is super
1:16:11
affordable and will give you years and years in enjoyment so I will include a link to this in the show notes and also
1:16:21
in the chat this one is just called the Weber 28 inch gr griddle with hard cover
1:16:27
and this is all you need to start that grilling or that griddle lifestyle one of my favorite things of 2024 is it new
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in 2024 no but it's new to me and I'm pitching it I've got other picks too but
1:16:42
man we're I thought we could do two each I'm not sure we can this one's good I'm a little concerned that you made you use
1:16:48
the term house stink uh referring to the sweet sweet smell of bacon well that's
1:16:54
one of the fin things in the world I I agree I I mean in fact but it lingers leis it lingers oh fastic the the worst
1:17:02
thing is being able to smell bacon and not being able to eat bacon because you already ate the bacon or because it's
1:17:09
Fon on the other side of the fence cooking in his backyard I love creating like nuclear
1:17:17
clouds worth of smoke like when I'm out there grilling a g a ribeye and like my entire backyard is just filled with
1:17:23
smoke and the smoke is is wafting over to to my neighbor's yard into their
1:17:28
windows and stuff and my other neighbors have become vegetarians so there's also
1:17:34
that it's like hey sorry en enjoy the the death plume you know but oh man that
1:17:41
smoke that arises from your from your grill when you're making a big old juicy
1:17:47
ribeye Costco has started selling the thin cut ribe eyes which are the absolute best ones by the way their ribe
1:17:53
eyes are just top tier anyway I could do a whole off topic on this which and it means you don't have to worry about your
1:17:58
smoke alarm going off inside your house which happens all the time because I'm a very poorly ventilated house yeah that happens in my house too which is never
1:18:05
fun okay Griffin take us home my friend what do you got for us okay so I'm
1:18:11
listeners of the show will know that I like making some weird esoteric picks and I will get to those next week but if
1:18:17
I if I I thought that maybe I I would you know do sort of like categories you know best tech product best music best
1:18:24
food stuff like that but if I'm thinking back to the best tech products of this year I've I've reviewed a lot of stuff
1:18:31
you know the Beloved iMac that I had just a few weeks ago the Mac Mini I actually got a new phone this year oh
1:18:38
but it's got to be kind of an an obvious pick but the most transformative tech product this year for me would have to
1:18:44
be the Vision Pro I've I've talked about now I I've talked about how I've you know used it
1:18:51
in previous articles and videos on this show so I won't go over it in grud detail and and I do have a few new
1:18:56
things to mention as well but um you know really I don't I don't have a very good
1:19:04
TV I have like a I have I actually have two televisions now on my in my living room I have a 1993 Zenith CRT television
1:19:14
it's like wow maybe like 24 Ines I think that was the very first TV company Zenith possibly yeah the very first US
1:19:20
TV company I'm pretty sure it was Zenith I I have I have an RF modulator that I can plug my Apple TV into to then plug
1:19:27
into that Zenith television so that I can watch you know Star Trek or old
1:19:32
Doctor Who in its intended format of a 4x3 blurry mess um I also have this is a
1:19:39
more recent Edition I do have like a crummy LCD television it's only 1080p
1:19:45
it's I think not that much bigger it's only like 36 inches but it's also not great that's just an escape hatch if I
1:19:51
have friends over who want to watch uh a movie or a television and see the
1:19:57
entire screen at once but you know the Vision Pro that's my preferred way to watch things uh I don't have airpods you
1:20:05
know but with the Vision Pro on I can just play it out of those audio pods on the side and the sound quality is
1:20:11
actually really excellent I don't like walking around on my lunch break or like cooking holding a phone in my hand
1:20:17
because it's tiny and then you're doing everything one-handed but you know you can just have things on floating screens
1:20:23
in front of you that is one of my favorite things about it too it really is such a tremendous
1:20:28
experience I don't have a Macbook I don't have an iPad for the small amount of computing that I might want to do
1:20:34
elsewhere but I have a Vision Pro and now this is not a great way to replace
1:20:40
all of those products like you're honestly better off buying a television or an iPad or airpods and you still save
1:20:48
like several hundred dollars but the Vision Pro has more cumulative
1:20:54
fun and Novelty than all of those other things which I which I value I agree
1:20:59
everything you just said it's yeah so that's $4,000 I do have a few new products I'd like to call out here
1:21:06
okay while you're grabbing those I just had a thought like next week there's probably going to be very little Apple
1:21:11
news we should just do the whole episode as our picks oh my God or especially like the week of Christmas come on leis
1:21:16
well what are you muttering over there you don't have any picks hang out listen
1:21:22
to me and gri that's the problem well you do shows movies all right Griffin take it away okay so this is a this is a
1:21:28
travel case that I was sent by a company called Anna Pro it's very nice you know the verion pro is kind of a big awkward
1:21:35
thing to carry around and yeah it still is even in a I was going to say that case looks big and maybe slightly
1:21:40
awkward does it have a handle on it at least it does it has a it has a big old strap on the side looks car around giant
1:21:47
capsule futuristic capsule it is kind of a big product but you open it up and you
1:21:53
have like a strap in the inside it up higher geez that looks like a bomb yeah
1:21:59
I wouldn't take that to the airport Griffin you're getting a full body cavity search treatment yeah you have a
1:22:04
little a little zippered area holy moly the wires go to the batter yeah jez look this looks exactly like a homemade bomb
1:22:10
yeah man you're definitely going to go to airport jail if you take that to the airport but it's a nice light gray felt
1:22:17
buom with nice materials yeah okay The Vision Pro sits inside it has this like sort of um pouch that you can put your
1:22:24
charging cables and whatnot in and it holds the Vision Pro nice and snug in there uh it also holds the Vision Pro
1:22:30
with a little bit of room on top of it yeah because anao is the same company that makes my beloved top strap product
1:22:38
ah okay uh you know sits sort of on your forehead and alleviates more of the U
1:22:44
more of the weight across your head and also allows you to use it without the light seal um they actually just came
1:22:51
out with version two of their their top strap product which is wow which is nice more padded and MH yeah uh oh another
1:22:59
nice thing is that on the inside of the case it has a little layer right where
1:23:05
the eye pieces go to keep the lens ins search that you have nice and nice and
1:23:12
snug and scratch free nice thoughtful yeah they really thought a lot of this out and I'm struggling to put it back
1:23:18
together on the air one more thing though holy moly man we're we're each doing one you're doing like 15
1:23:25
it's a combo deal this is I want to talk about one of my favorite shows but we we got to wrap it up we'll have to save it
1:23:30
for next week I guess uh my preferite keyboard input input device when I'm using the Vision Pro is this product by
1:23:36
moo it's a compact keyboard you can buy versions of this that work with an iPad too cool it's a keyboard but you'll
1:23:44
notice the keys are all very flat yeah that's because the surface of the keyboard is a
1:23:49
trackpad so you're typing on the key so you just like lightly run your fingers over the keys yeah you just run a finger
1:23:55
over the key and then on the Vision Pro it'll just turn into a cursor and you can use it as input no way that is the
1:24:02
biggest problem with division Pro is that um you know with WordPress especially like there are a few buttons
1:24:09
that you can push accidentally that will be a big problem like if you accidentally push the publish button
1:24:15
while you're still writing your draft there are those moments where the Precision really matters and I will say
1:24:21
that um having a trackpad built into the keyboard isn't great but like you
1:24:26
wouldn't really want to use this on an iPad because um you you wouldn't want this
1:24:32
trackpad to be your only trackpad but if for those just brief moments where you need like I just really need to make
1:24:38
sure that I hit this button instead of that button it's really great for that so it's neat I it means I don't have to
1:24:43
carry on to separate trackpad I don't have to make sure it's charged super TI little package too like it's really compact yeah how is the actual typing
1:24:51
experience on that it's also not great okay all right
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but it it does both things kind of well enough to make me not want to get a separate keyboard or a separate track
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pad so yeah I'll link to all those in the show notes like you know using the
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Vision Pro without the light seal is huge and transformative and also just having a convenient way to carry it
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around is also neat because it's it is kind of like an awkward physical object
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it's also better to just have a place to put it so that it's not just like raw dogging on like my corner coffee table
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or something like that for my dogs to just knock it off the table and break it so I gotta say I am super curious and
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excited to see what Apple does with the Vision Pro like where do we go from here I really hope the next update is a big
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one and not just like well the screens are marginally better although that's probably what we're in for is it
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iterative release the next year of vision OS will be the first time they've had like a full year to work on the
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software so I have pretty high hopes for vision 3 but then again we're also hearing reports that Apple's pulling a bunch of Engineers to work on iOS and
1:25:59
iOS 19 features are going to be delayed so maybe it'll be another year of kind I mean they're doing so much stuff it's like and the iPhone makes them all their
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money so it's inevitable that they're going to have to pull people from other
1:26:12
places to fix or to build iOS if there's ever any problems which I'm sure happens all the time all right look we need to
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go ahead and wrap it up there but you know what I think next week again we're going to come back and we'll do more
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best of 2024 I have so much stuff I mean I was just thinking of some stuff that I could launch into but we we can't
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because we're already at 16 and 1 half hours look at Lewis look look at the dark circles
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under his eyes he needs to go he needs to go to bed he's going to go into that he's going to disappear into that obscurity blurred behind him and just
1:26:45
slip into it and probably fall into a deep Slumber and a great idea and probably not come back until next
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Thursday but that's it that's all the codcast we have for you guys this week if you want to come give us your
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time had to end it quick there cuz we're almost out of music and if the Music Stops and I
1:28:06
haven't actually finished the show I wouldn't know what to do i' probably just freeze and
1:28:12
panic and it would be like that Michael Bay moment at that CES keynote that he
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did where he froze and panicked and ran off stage I don't think he ever came back either get retired right there and then
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all right everyone have a good weekend bye y'all
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