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What’s coming to iOS 18 + Siri’s chat GPT overhaul! (CultCast #647)
Mar 11, 2025
This week we’re talking: Apple’s plans for Siri and AI What’s coming in iOS 18 iPhone 17 The first folding iPhone and MacBook are incoming And we may know who will replace Tim Cook…. Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 5:46 Intro 12:24 Squarespace 15:15 Siri and AI 30:32 iOS 17.5 Features 42:02 Bilt 43:27 iOS 18 Accessibility Features 49:29 Apple’s Next CEO 1:02:38 iPhone 17 Lineup 1:07:20 Folding iPhone 1:10:40 Foldable MacBook
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oh no gash of sound effects did I lose oh man I should have
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known I should have guessed you were just holding it back to trick me I think we're live but I don't actually know are
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we live go you think I would have pulled that up before we started chat let me know can you hear what we're
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saying it says that we're connected but there's nobody there now that actually could be true for this
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production oh we have been live for like five minutes and we're live oh I went full
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screen me apologies Let's Go full screen Lou how's it going Lis
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great excited to talk about the Apple news this week are you oh so much Apple
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news yeah we were having a lively discussion on all sorts of things that have nothing to do with with anything
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this and I was saying this is what we should do for off topic we should just cuz like the pre-show is the best part
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of the show in my opinion so I use that word Loosely but in contextually for the
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rest of the show but we should just show up and just talk about whatever we want for like 15 we should just set like a
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time limit it's G to be 15 minutes and then we show up and we just see what happens but the problem is it's gonna
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take us 10 minutes to actually figure out anything and then we'll spend five minutes of actual interesting conversation and then the whole thing will be over
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like what happened with our Disney conversation well it's it's that five minutes that people tune in for that they eagerly await yeah I hope you're
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right backloaded backloaded content it's the future so it gets people listening to the whole thing there you go that's
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name the podcast backload surely surely this is gonna get
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better I think it will and don't call me surely all right
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well Griffin do you get that reference yeah there okay I'm just making sure just making sure I know you're like 17
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so I wasn't sure if like you'd seen that movie uh remember when we started we had
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Alex Eon actually you weren't here when Alex was on were you Louis no like no
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joke I think we had to get his parents to sign a permission slip for him to do the show when I found out how young he
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was I was stunned I I was genuinely worried if there was going to be a
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lawsuit because of child employment laws and then he end up going to Vegas with us and I'm like are you parents here
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with you like how did you get here I wasn't even sure if he was old enough to drive but that's what made it fun all
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right well so we do the
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show oh boy and then there was Buster
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rip how fun it was to have him on okay well I think we should go ahead
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and get started cuz I got to be walking these sweet but muscular buns out the door in 72 minutes leis you think we can
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make it I think we're doing too many might have to turn your uh microphone off
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after you after your a lotted time remember no no no
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interruptions we should hang up on the audience too just to be sure okay well
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let's go ahead and queue up Mrs you know who oh my
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goodness look at our concurrent viewers no one wants to hear us talk about Siri updates and iOS 18 but you know what
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folks this is the best we can find if you want us to stick to Apple news this was it there it is a wasteland out there
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there is just nothing going on now these new iPads have come out and we don't even have the iPads yet are you guys
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even buying one I don't think we ever even talked about that no who has that kind of money thousand
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bucks I mean huh thousand bucks Louis you don't have a thousand bucks like Ling around you know it's like why buy
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another iPad to sit next to the other iPad that I don't use very often for anything oh I use mine all the time yeah
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I don't daily I I use it I I use the old one more than I use the new one the old
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old old one with the crack screen I use it for darts three times a week why don't you just use the new one for darts
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the battery doesn't last as long plus the screen's not cracked so you want to use the crappy one because you don't
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want it to get you don't care if it gets broken and so you have a new one that you just end up never using more broken yeah all right
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okay um tell you what let's go ahead and start K Mrs D oh Mrs
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D see myself this D oh my dear did I hear that
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you had a child on the show oh boy oh dear God yes we did Mrs D oh I so Lov
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children I had a child once as well oh you did Mrs D yes it was elany
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can you imagine the Mrs DL Katy
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child scary Mrs D please let's never speak of that child
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again out with a beard I'm not sure El KY even knows
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about that child he's never mentioned him so if you don't mind Mrs D let's go
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ahead and get this thing rolling we have several topics of great importance that
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we need to discuss and several others too and many others after that that we're going to
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discuss anyway uh whether you like it or not so I'll get the music queued up we'll get this thing rolling in three
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two hello and welcome to the co Cassy best 30 plus minute conversation you're
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going to hear all we CL I'm your host Aon Elijah joining me today in an effort to further
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reduce culac Rider escapes he's been attending classes that teach horse
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riding cattle roping and hog tie there won't be any summer escapes this year am I right he's a
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managing L walls is here forgot to show you on the camera there he is look how mean he looks that's his happy face also
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joining us when not typing furiously away at his keyboard you'll find him working late into the night one of those
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giant magnifying glasses over his face soldering motherboard are repairing technology that are
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completely well not useful in any way shap perform but are cool and have nice startup tones he's a rer cat Griffin
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juice is here airon it's been another week have
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you bought an iPad no iPad although I almost looked at
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the refurbished site last night for a new mapbook Pro but I didn't I didn't buy one I almost also almost bought the new
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Fujifilm xt50 that they announced last
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night which is just like the xt5 except smaller more Compact and like $500
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cheaper but I can't because I'm going to wait for the X1 1006 which is still in back order I
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still a whole another camera after and you still haven't gotten your those mofos released a whole new camera what
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how is the xt50 compared to the X100 V well it's going to be similar in many
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ways because Fujifilm is using the same sensor in focusing system and pretty
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much all their cameras now and so it's kind of like the Apple strategy in a way where they have this chip and they just
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have different platforms that utilize that chip that's kind of what fujifilm's doing now and they just keep making
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cheaper and cheaper products with like the same sensor but they'll cut out like some of the features the xt50 actually looks like a really great camera but I
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don't want it man I want the G darn X100 VI and I cannot believe that it is 3
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months since I pre-ordered in the first 90 seconds after orders went live and I
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still do not have it and those mofos at Fujifilm are now releasing a whole new
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camera they also made the X100 VI available to people in Japan I'm like in
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Japan you can't even fulfill the orders for us now you're going to add a whole
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extra group of people who want this camera I mean what are you guys doing so
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I don't know man like they based in Japan I'm furious don't don't think going sale first there I don't think so
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I mean maybe in some cases but I think that the US is such a massive Market
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that often times they'll release the product here first and then in their own countries later isn't that kind of weird
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that is bizarre but that's the way it works with not just cameras I've seen it
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work that way with like um like gaming consoles and stuff too so we just have
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you know so many people willing to go up to their ears in debt to buy whatever gets released that it makes sense just to do it here I don't know if people
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have access to the same levels of credit that we have here which is key key all right look we're already Way Off
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Track I'm reading the chat oh dear to see if there's anything there that we need to interrupt the show to talk about
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there's not yet but I will keep checking back in we got a nice little show lined up for you well look that might be an
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exaggeration but we're going to talk about these topics nonetheless we may be about to witness the biggest overhaul in
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Siri history and I think Apple's on the verge of actually making it useful but
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look Lewis if all they do is make it able to understand what we're actually saying that would be a huge win that be
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a bonus that in in of itself would be enough for me but with this combo of
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Siri and chat GPT we might be in for a massive overhaul we'll talk about that
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let's see here Griffin's going to tell us about some new features in iOS 17.5
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and iOS 18 double whammy there from the gripster we think we may know who's
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taking over for Tim Cook now Tim Cook's probably one of the healthiest people in
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America it wouldn't surprise me if he were still CEO at age 105 106 six and
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he'll still be able to bench press more than all three of us at that age but when he does finally croak which will
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undoubtedly be be at his desk like George Burns that's a little much well
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look although he is the closest that we have to an immortal he's gonna die eventually oh my God and when he goes
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they need someone to take over for him Lewis and I think I know a turn I think I know who it's going to be
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I'm not going to say here though we're g to make people wait oh I will give you a hint though tease some people call him
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the chin and I'm not talking about Jay Leno although I think Jay Leno would be a great CEO Matt
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Smith another good guess that Daryl gurnie it's Daryl gurnie ladies and
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gentlemen oh man you chins got nothing on this chin I mean it's like I mean
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it's it's it's beyond Jay Lenin you know oh work on that's like eye injury you
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know chin protrusion uh what else do we have maybe
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a tweet any chance any chance at all you know what how do we continue forgetting
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these things I got it locked and by sorry we I mean you because you should have reminded me about this at least
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three minutes ago but I got it locked and loaded right here I'm going to type it in everyone plug your
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ears there you go hopefully I didn't misspell anything thing and let's see what
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else oh yeah folding 20-in MacBook we
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got some rumors on iPhone 17 we've got some rumors on the folding iPhone coming
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up we got all sorts of stuff that's enough Preamble let's go ahead and dive
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I would know what the next story is but as per usual I have absolutely not a single clue oh wait ask ask Siri it's
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going straight back to me take it away me Apple using Siri to make using AI to
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make Siri more useful again I don't know if anyone cares about this but we're
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going to cover it because as I mentioned earlier I think that this could be the
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biggest uh Improvement to Siri that we've seen since it's been released and that's because there have been no improvements to siries since it's been
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released in fact it's only been getting worse I feel like Siri understands me
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less now than it did when it was first released apple is of course going to be making a big push into Ai and uh there
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was an interesting report out this week that covered some of the details about
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what they might be doing with AI and not only that but how their realization that
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they are way behind in AI definitely contributed to them abandoning their car
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project so that they could dedicate more resources into catching up which I had not heard before that was that was a new
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piece of the story did you listen to us talking about it I mean I didn't no when usually when
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one of you were talking I just there spacing out wait what's the what's the equivalent of eyes glit blazing over for
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ears you know what's worse is it was probably me talking about it at some point you know that's probably what
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actually happened I don't even remember Apple reportedly intends to fulfill the hopes of so many iPhone users by giving
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the Siri voice assistant an upgrade with artificial intelligence Siri supposedly
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won't become a general purpose chatbot it'll be focused on better handling the sort of tasks iPhone users need so I
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think from what I read essentially the ones that it already does but not well apple is expected to show off its AI
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work at its uh WWDC in June when it releases an
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improved Siri that is more conversational and versatile the New York Times reported Friday the plan
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Supply is not to make I just read that part well I'll read it again for emphasis because I think this is actually important the plan supposedly
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is not to make Siri into a direct competitor for chat chat GPT so they're
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going to enable you know generative AI in some capacity and it it sounds like they're talking with open AI along with
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everybody else on how they can weave open AI into Siri I kind of wonder if
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they're even going to call it Siri because Siri the brand is so tainted at this point that I don't know if they can
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recover it it it might be dead so they might need to change the name to something else but whatever they change it to if they do change it to anything
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they definitely have to make it a name that's easy to invoke so that you can call it it can't be something long and
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arduous because that's how lazy we've all become as a society like people used to break rocks all day with like
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pickaxes and now if we have to say more than three syllables we can't we can't be bothered to do it that's where we're at as a
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society but let me continue the story here you didn't want my cultural commentary weaved in there too bad uh
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let's see here quote Apple has focused on making Siri better better at handling tasks that it already does including
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setting timers creating calendar appointments and adding items to a grocery list it would also be able to
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summarize Tech me text messages well that would be helpful maybe also understand the words that are coming out of our mouths so that the text messages
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don't change uh he has a ball to he hos a ball
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like the avocado which happens to me all the time for some reason let's see here
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it's assumed that the built-in applications will be able to for example summarize emails web pages and text
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message chats users will probably be able to seamlessly remove objects from images and perh apps add them or they
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might be able to tweak their photos during spoken commands Okay blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah so on
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and so forth um so you feel like we mentioned the fact that the AI thing
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might have contributed to the death of the car project before Lewis because I don't remember that detail but it's entirely possible that I completely for
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yeah that was in the very first report that they pulled the plug on Project Titan was that they were reassigning people to their AI division see I
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thought the story was they pulled the plug on Project Titan and they were going to go ahead and assign those people to AI now that that project was
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dead but I don't know to focus on that it was because they're in a panic I I
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guarantee you I was the one that read that story and I can't even remember it this is like when the rock there's there's like this video I saw today
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Dwayne The Rock Johnson has been putting out like the same Instagram post for like the last four years about how he's
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going to In-N-Out Burger for the first time and he's done it like three years in a row and he's like I'm going to in
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Out burger for the first time right he's like I don't even know where to pick hey I've never been here before and people
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are like bro you did this last year the exact same post and you've been to
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In-N-Out Burger before and people are like they don't know if he is just doing this to get clicks or if he's literally
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um well if he has Alzheimers and I gotta say it it sounds
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hilarious is it is it at least a different uh Inn out Breer oh hold on a
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second I don't think so I the exact same one you guys know our favorite chat
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participant Hugo last he's here and he just put another crisp $100
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bill into Lander ky's pocket which I'm moly which if you can't tell I'm I'm actually B about hug
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go I can't promise you this but I'm going to try to arrange for Leander kany
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to come to your house and sing you happy birthday on your birthday when's your birthday put
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it in the chat thank you for that massive $100
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$100 going straight to LK I'm not sure how to feel about that Louis it should make me happy and part of me part of me
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is happy but part of me is also angry June 22nd okay Hugo was that you that
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messaged me on Twitter because we're gonna have you on the show man and somebody somebody who
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claimed to be Hugo reached out to me but I'm not sure it was you but now you can claim
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it yes or no and then I'll get back to
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you yes it was you okay all right I'm gonna get back to you that's it we're
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gonna have we're gonna have Hugo last you on the show thank you for this money for one of the reasons we need we need
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to have Hugo on the show so I can ask him what he does for a living that he can afford to drop $100 into the into the chat every time that he comes on
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Krypto Miner he also I've been receiving just envelop it's full of money under my
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my mat on my front from my front porch I presume it's from Hugo last thousands of dollars a week I'm
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making and is that you has that been you Hugo I don't
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know I presume it was you I hope that envelope full white powder was not you
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though because I had it tested and yes it was Anthrax that was
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surprising okay we'll wait for him to answer okay um any commentary on that
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Lewis the series stuff well uh you know those quotes from the times are like they just seem so pathetic in light of
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uh the latest thing from open AI right like what Apple's focus on making series
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better at handling tasks it already does like setting timers creating calendar appointments and adding items to a
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grocery list wow hearing you say it out loud it is
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kind of pathetic isn't it yeah I mean did you watch any of the what is it called uh
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GPT 40 4 not zero 40 yeah I saw a bunch
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of examples because anytime chat GPT does anything all the grifters on Twitter create their stories uh new chat
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gbt here are the 15 things you need to know now so they can get those clicks on Twitter oh dude the monetization on on
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Twitter I think is a good thing but is also created like this whole uh massive
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group of people who just wait around for something to happen like that so they can put together a list of the 15 things that you need to know so they can try to
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get themselves some clicks and it's kind of it's kind of Ruin Twitter to be honest they're creating content you
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don't have to unfurl it yeah I don't unfurl it but but like you compare like
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your experience asking Apple's Voice Assistant to almost
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anything versus what you saw in that video and it's like wow it's just it's
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like a whole other level of of of Excellence right I mean again you
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know it's it's a demo so you know I mean who knows what it's really like in real
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life but uh I I mean I oddly enough I can't remember any specific examples that I saw but everything was just the
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back and for you mean from the GPT demo yeah yeah dud they did a live conversational they did a a live real
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time translation between a lady speaking Italian and a guy speaking English yeah
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I I yeah but it's still going to be a set up a demo that they've set up they know exactly what they're going to say they've probably tested that exact
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situation before and even though it's running live it might you know you don't know if it's giving caned responses or
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not right probably true you don't know what it would be like if if it if you
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ask it to do the same thing with two other people speaking with different accents I mean you always got to keep that in mind
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with demos however I mean just the just the tone of voice with the thing sounded
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like a real person right and the the inflections it's you know like I remember a few years back when you know
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they made Siri sound more human and it you know sounds slightly more human but compared to that I mean come on it's
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it's it's not even second rate it's like it it's embarrassing um I I I I still often
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wonder how much people are going to use these kinds of features and how often but uh comparing what you saw in the
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open AI demo with what you experience in day-to-day was like oh my God yeah maybe
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it is a good thing they killed that car project maybe it is a good idea that they uh double down on making this right
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because it it's just it's just it's just laughable and I
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mean I hope they do more than make it you know set timers a little bit better I mean that's actually one of the things
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that it it frequently work exactly like I I don't know how much better that
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needs to get for instance but uh and frankly that's one of the only things I
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use it for anymore because half the other time it it doesn't do what I ask it to do even when it's something it
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ought to do I use Siri mostly on accident when sometimes it just
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activates automatically like it just did when we were having that conversation and it's like I can't find a search for
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Brown dogs jump I think that's what it just said to me I'm like what that's how I interact with Siri for the most part
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not on purpose but by accident honestly like most of my interactions uh have to
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do with my wife asking syal question in a room down the hall and and the and the
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homepod mini failing to answer it in my office and my so my wife just keeps saying it again over and over louder hey
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Siri what are you do to hey Siri what do you I'm like it's answering it in my office quit asking the question but that
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that's one of the things that I find really uh annoying see sure just ask sorry uh I I
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find that annoying that I've got so many instances of Apple devices in my house
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that are always listening and you know apple apple says it figured out how to
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uh you know has all this fancy stuff in the background that makes it you know go to the right one but nine times out of
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10 it it does not go to the one that I am uh expecting or hoping to have it have that happens to me all the time
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one last quote out of this story Apple also fears that if it fails to develop its own AI system the iPhone could
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become a dumb brick compared to other technology so a big part of this is just reactive because I think to your point
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earlier Lewis like a lot of people are scrambling to implement their own AI systems but don't maybe know what
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they're going to do with them yet or if people are actually going to use them I mean there have certainly been some
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compelling use cases that I've seen But like for a smartphone especially running locally on the phone I'm curious to see
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what features that's going to offer aside from you know just doing little tasks but yeah I mean that translation
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thing if they if they get that nailed out that would be awesome that would be a game changer absolutely awesome I mean you know the the translation app is
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already better than flipping through a book but compared to what you saw in the
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open AI demo dude feels talking about helping you with travel I mean right to
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be able to to do real-time translations or or any business area where you need a a translator
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AI could honestly put the entire localization and translation business out of business because once it gets
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good enough to understand natural language if you need something translated you know right now you have
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to pay a translator and I think that that there will still be opportunities for
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translators in very high level activities like you know political translations and that type of thing like
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you're at the UN or something and you need to trans you need someone to translate for you in real time because I think it's important that you have a
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translator that you trust and you may not just trust AI to do it for you but in all other situations
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localizations for games localizations for DVD menus I mean all of this stuff
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that they use teams of skilled language professionals I think J chat GPT is
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going to get to a point where it can basically replace all that stuff and just do it for you and I mean people
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already using Google Translate for so much stuff that's why whenever you go on to Amazon and read one of the
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description you're like wait a second and you read like the description you're like uh I don't know if the
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English use is right here it's because a lot of those companies um are Chinese
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manufacturers and they just translate their stuff in Google and they just slopping on to Amazon and it's like no one even cares at this point but imagine
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when it gets like actually good and you feel like you're interacting with a human it's going to be
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crazy we talked about this way longer than we probably should have
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okay I don't know man I think it's fascinating and it's it's a big uh it's a big big deal topic and I mean
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obviously people are upset with well not upset but you know irritated with Seri lack of uh capabilities so I think we're
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Beyond upset we're we're basically
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just we we don't care anymore L say we're P like what stage of grieving is that you know we're beleaguered we're
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just is that what just excited to see what what they've been working on this whole time what they're going to announ so I'm trying to withhold judgment yeah
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me too I like that like to hear iOS 17.5 please please get us away from this topic please just take us somewhere else
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I beg you this is a software update that they released on Monday uh here are some of the latest features it's a smaller
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update but there's still some stuff we want to call out crossplatform tracking detection is a new system in iOS that
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notifies users about compatible Bluetooth trackers following their movement this is uh something apple collaborated
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on with Google it's a like a new industry specification um IOS and Android both
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have it crossplatform tracking detection delivers notifications to users if a compatible Bluetooth tracker they do not
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own is moving with them regardless of what operating system the device is paired with so you know air tags do this
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already that was part of their their whole thing with that but now it works with third party Bluetooth trackers too
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no matter if you have an iPhone or an Android that's pretty neat there's a but also not
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need yeah I mean it's good if you're it's good if someone's stalking you it's
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bad if someone's stealing your thing and you're like now I'm trying to take this trying to get my thing back and the
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criminal keeps getting notified that there's a Bluetooth tracker following him and he's like oh great well let me just throw that in the trash per perfect
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glad glad I purchased this air tag sorry just wanted to add that bit in
31:55
yeah no I mean that's a fair point um does few new features coming to the uh coveted Apple news plus Apple news plus
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has a a new daily game Word game called ciles um they rolled out like daily
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crosswords and mini crosswords with Iowa 17 uh but now they're joining the fry of Wordle and connections and you know
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daily word games are are making like a real having a real Heyday right now and now Apple's getting in on the business
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um in cor tiles it if you've ever have you ever play the game Boggle yes not in
32:30
a long time cor tiles is kind of like Boggle except instead of getting like an individual letter you have like this
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giant grid of like word syllables like prefixes and suffixes and you have to
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like try and make as many words as you can oh yeah okay yeah out of the different tiles it's pretty fun I've been playing
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it every day um and sorry did you say this is free or this is part of Apple
32:53
news plus oh okay yeah so if you're if you're on the Apple One Buton bundle then you have it or you can like you
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know Apple new plus is like probably one of the worst values of all the Apple Services it's like $12.99 a month but is
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it really that expensive wow is it that much that's but if you're on the Apple One bundle like I am then you just you
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know get it and it's kind of nice yeah all right um The Daily crossw also has a global scoreboard that plugs into that
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plugs into game center now so you can see how your how your time compares to other people's or if you have any
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friends that play the cross word too uh let's see uh finally there's a new Pride
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lock screen and watch face which in my opinion looks pretty cool you know they they do those every year I like this one
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it's it's it looks really neon and and colorful and I think they have a corresponding watch band that you can
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buy as well so that's iOS 17.5 all right there you go which is the bigger news
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the uh cross platform tracking or cor
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tiles vote now on your phones yeah I wouldn't say either one of them are
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marquee features here leis I'm going to go ahead go and allege I didn't find ciles to be all that challenging to be
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quite honest well it's just because of your Superior intellect I mean for most
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normal people you know it's like they could barely solve one of the words it's it's true that uh I said that in in the
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slack chat I said H it's you know not hard at all but you know the first one wasn't and I did go back to some of the
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archived ones some of those posed a little bit more of difficulty but yeah they probably have a ramp up and
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difficulty I don't know to to lure in like the yeah maybe maybe so yeah keep
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you liking it enjoying it but I won't be playing it because I don't pay for Apple news plus and I never
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willz no ha part of the Bumble B bumble bumble I just don't really I don't know
34:47
I mean magazines and newspapers are kind of a dead medium and moving them to
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digital form doesn't really help that I mean it's like
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they we moved on we're on we're on the web now we moved everything to the web it's like but wait a bit what about my magazine it's like well just move it to
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the web no I don't want to do that I want to make a magazine it's got to be a magazine format I'll tell you what man I I'm
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getting this is a person in a you know Glass House throwing a stone but I am getting really tired of websites that
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are littered with advertisements leis do you really want to go down
35:23
this I mean I understand you have to make a living need to pay for instance
35:29
editors and writers uh but I got to say going to something
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like uh going to something like Apple news is kind of soothing because you're
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not getting bombarded by 57 popups as you try to scroll down a page the I swear to God the thing that's H driving
35:47
me most crazy lately is when you go to like you know let's let's say SFGate the
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it's the San Francisco Chronicle hybrid website you know it's not run by the chronicle separate Newsroom
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excuse me but it's just you know I start to read a page you start to scroll down
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just and it just keeps like reloading it just keeps crashing out in Safari on my iPhone I'm like what who are I've got
36:14
the best iPhone that you can buy what in the world are you doing that is making your website crash repeatedly and reload
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and reload and reload and reload I mean honestly it's like I used to visit that site multiple times a day and
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I've lately I I've said you know I find myself I still look at it but I I
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started looking at uh SF standard which is a a competing news source and their website is as near as I could tell like
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free of ads because it's you know sponsored by some billionaire benefactor or something but it's it's like the the
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difference is night and day you know like and you know honestly like at culton Ma we're we're looking into this
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we're trying to once again you know drop change the ad layout and you know ease
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back a little bit it's just it's so intrusive it's just gotten so crazy I mean somebody was complaining on
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Facebook today like oh yeah okay yeah I I read your headline I went to the site I couldn't see couldn't see any content
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at all and I I went I took a screenshot it was like three ads on filling up my
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uh iPhone 15 plus or Pro screen right and like a couple of words of content
37:23
visible somewhere in there Underneath It All they become more and more intrusive too like there's especially on mobile I
37:30
was using this site and as I was scrolling it like pops up like this full screen ad and you have to figure out how
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to even close it and of course you always have to like click the X like three times for it to actually close
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which is probably programmed in the tiny hidden teeny tiny little X it is a weird
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time I mean people don't want to pay for Content like myself included I just don't want to we're we're all subscribed
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out of our minds like we have subscriptions for everything now no one wants to watch ads for anything although
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funny enough that in the world of streaming that is kind of changing
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Disney plus has ad tier now Netflix has ad supported tier now there is this new
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streaming platform called tub and Amazon has one called freey and they are
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entirely free platforms that are supported with ads gee what a novel concept so you just pick the content you
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want to watch and the aren't even that bad like you might have to watch six ads
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for an entire movie and they're not usually more than like 30 seconds each
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and so I just mute it and we'll go to the restroom or or that and it's great
38:42
because you just don't have to pay for these streaming platforms anymore and what's funny is especially with 2B and
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Amazon uh freee they'll because these platforms are not paid they usually will
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get bring like really old content or like like a lower tier content which sounds terrible but there's a lot of
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content that you'd see on there that you might actually enjoy but you would never
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see anywhere else because it's not considered to be Hollywood quality or something that
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was popular at any point in in in time but might have been like a b or a c movie what are you watching maybe that's
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what I'm trying to say like there's like B and C Level movies that are on there that no one else is willing to put on
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their platforms because uh they're trying to keep like the best quality content so that people will keep
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paying them and Amazon and Tubi don't care so there's all sorts of weird stuff on there it's like the day the
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leprechaun frowned you know it's like you know I had that one do most watch must
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watch you know and it's like there's all this stuff that is weird and you and sometimes I'll just start something and
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I'm like oh this is terrible but then you'll find something that you actually enjoy um like for example there there
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was an ERA in in Nick Cage's [Laughter]
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career hi somebody's to me pot of
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gold sorry I spoiled it that's why he was frowning that's why he was frowning I spoiled the whole movie for you guys
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there was this era in Nick Cage's career where he was so down and out and I think he was bankrupt that he was forced to do
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all these really mid movies and I had heard this but I had never seen any of
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them and so I'm going on this stream platform and I there was a movie I think
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it was called Left Behind it's like from like the book series of people being
40:39
taken in the Rapture and it was star Nick Cage and I was like dude this is this has got to be a different topic
40:45
like Nick Cage doing a Rapture movie that doesn't seem right so I watched it dude it that's exactly what it was about
40:52
Nick Cage was an airline pilot and while he was flying this and like the Rapture
40:58
occurs and like all these people get taken off the Earth and it was so horrendously lowbudget it actually
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wasn't bad but he was the only actor in that movie that could actually act
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everybody else was was someone that would never get cast in a major Hollywood production and
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they were acting opposite him and you could tell like how good he actually is at acting because he's paired up with
41:24
all these people who look like they're acting in like a high school play and you know like he's actually
41:30
like feeling the emotion oh my goodness the world's been taken like he actually is feeling it and everyone else is just
41:37
acting like oh man oh no God must really be mad at us you know and it was like
41:44
this weird J's position how we're way off track here I don't even know where we are what we're doing we were talking
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now Griffin were you saying something that you'd like to talk about because I I'm at a point where I can hand it back
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talk about iOS 18 okay please take it away so Apple does this every year where
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they for I think it's like Global accessibility day they pre-announced some of the the new features that they
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have yet to that like before they actually announced them in June at WWDC so uh there's some really cool stuff in
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here mostly for iPhone iPad and Vision Pro ey tracking the technology that
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powers The Vision Pro is coming to iPhone and iPad without any external
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hardware or anything it's not like an accessory you have to buy just using the camera it uses like Ai and it quote lets
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users navigate through an app and activate each element accessing functions such as physical buttons
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swipes and other gestures solely with their eyes they have like a little video
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about this that we we turn into like a gift in our article but it's really cool you know you see somebody like you know
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just darting their eyes around and they're like navigating through the podcast app like you know you you you hold and stare at something for a few
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seconds and then it like selects a button wow that's pretty cool yeah pretty powerful stuff that's like you
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know the the headline feature but there's some more um if you subscribe to Apple music just like Aon doesn't either
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music haptics will use the taptic engine in the iPhone to play like Taps gestures
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and refined vibrations to the audio of the music why and say that they have like a few million songs that do that oh
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is that an accessibility feature yeah yeah you know like why would you want your phone
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to do that that makes more sense okay yeah it enhances the experience you know I want to try it out okay vocal
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shortcuts lets users create custom phrases that Sheri will listen for and
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uh you know so you can say you don't have to use the the phrase you know hey computer you can just say
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uh I don't know what's a unlock the front doors and then it'll it'll you know if you have a series shortcut set
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up then it'll then it'll run it for you that's pretty cool actually oh yeah yeah
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listen for atypical speech expand speech recognition for a wider range of speech
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patterns so it'll uh you know your your phone will better understand you if you have cerebral paly or a s or a stroke
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huh this one this next one I'm pretty interested in yeah this vehicle motion
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cues this is designed to prevent you from getting car sick if you're using your phone in the car quote with vehicle
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motion cues animated dots on the edges of the screen represent changes in
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vehicle motion to help reduce sensory conflict so you don't get motion sick if you're trying to read isn't that neat
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yeah it' be useful for kids too like I wonder if this is going to be on iPad OS too probably at some point yeah yeah um
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there's a few really cool Fe features for Vision Pro um like live captions Apple debuted last year or maybe the
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year before live captions like lets you turn on like an on onscreen subtitle
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thing that'll instantly like generate subtitles if you're listening to a podcast or if you're in a FaceTime call
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but on the Vision Pro live captions work like you know in real life for everything so you can be talking to
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somebody and it'll give you like live subtitles wow that's pretty
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cool yeah and um it's getting some other features like smart invert is like you know the the accessibility feature where
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it inverts the colors of your screen on Vision Pro if you turn on smart invert it inverts your entire field of view oh
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I don't know why you would want that but you can you know dim flashing lights that
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reduces like flashing if you're like playing a game or watching a video on your phone but you know on Vision Pro you know if you're watch walking through
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like a a on of your living room and somebody's putting on like a rave you know it'll turn down the turn
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off the flashing lights for you that happens I me too what do I think about that cool
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stuff yeah all great stuff so is all of this stuff was accessibility type stuff
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correct yeah okay that's what I thought because I was like I'm noticing a theme here I don't know if all these features
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are intended for accessibility but it seems like all of them are it's
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tremendously surprising that they're able to get the ey tracking thing
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working on iOS like wasn't that like the whole pitch for vision OS it's like
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Cutting Edge technology measuring your retina movements it's like oh no we can do that with the with the camera on the front of your phone well wait a second I
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just spent $3,500 on this damn thing like I could have done it with my phone I I wonder if it's going to
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require a device that uses face ID I that would be my
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guess but so iPad Air gets left out well
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possibly time will tell I'm just surprised they were able to get this working at all and and my guess is that
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is not maybe as accurate as it is in Vision Pro because Vision Pro has like
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actual hardware and stuff that's all over points it at your eyeballs but that's an inch away from your eyes too
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yeah well that that's the key you got to hold the phone like right in front of your face like that but even even if it
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is 80% as good if you can't use your hands and now you can interact with I'm
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going to guess this is coming to iPad in some permutation but you could do this
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on your phone you can do this on your iPad maybe at some point that's a huge win so now you can do these things without having to use your hands it's
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pretty
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cool okay big gulps huh they do they do some pretty amazing stuff with accessibility and it's funny how much
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it's useful in other situations too you know yeah as opposed to just oh I have a
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you know specific problem that that this is designed to solve you know what problem Apple has
49:30
Lewis I could think of one Tim Cook maybe two Tim Cook's gonna die and it back again with the croak and
49:37
it could happen at any moment it could have happened already have we checked the news ticker oh my God and when he
49:42
does they're GNA have a big problem on his hand on their hands not on his hands he'll be gone but in in 30 or 40 years
49:51
in 30 or 40 years when Tim Cook dies they're going to need someone to replace him and
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they don't know who it's going to be and it's got to be someone good because Tim Cook did it man he he took the mantle he
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took something he he he took an impossible task if you think about it he took over for Steve Jobs it's got to be
50:10
one of the hardest things anyone has ever done to take over this iconic figure and run the company as well as
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Tim Cook has is truly incredible and it's going to be hard to
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replace him now I always said that I thought Johnny I should take over but there's no way he's doing that
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now he's he's probably working like five hours a week he's enjoying all the hundreds of millions of dollars that he
50:36
made he's not coming back he's not coming back to Apple so who's it going to be they need someone with a powerful
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presence and you know what they say about powerful looking people right Lewis their chin leads the
50:49
way I just it's all about the chin for you I just made that up but it sounds like it could be real doesn't it
50:57
ah yeah okay well so save me Louis I'll keep talking save me yeah that's a big question who will
51:03
succeed Tim Cook to become Apple's next CEO Apple reportedly has a plan two of them actually plan a kicks in if if Cook
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steps off the wrong curb that's that was actually what he said something about in the near future plan B goes into effect
51:16
if Cook hangs around for a few more years enabling a well-managed handoff to his successor MH well what do you want
51:23
to hear about first plan a or Plan B well let's about Plan B first Plan B is
51:29
the long range like this is the guy that they you know this report uh indicates
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is the most likely person to become the next Apple CEO as long as there's not a disaster yeah that
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is hold your John turnis wait he's play
51:49
B yeah Oh I thought okay that's interesting no plan a is the short
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term oh plan a is like hey if if Tim Cook gets hit by a bus
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today there's somebody that seems like that would be Plan B because that's probably not going to happen it's
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probably backward okay plan one and plan two how about that well there's no
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difference I mean that's like saying plan and plan Plan B if there plan a and plan one plan one
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a one emergency plan and B and actual plan all right that that makes way more
52:23
way more sense yeah okay because the emergency the emergency plan would be Jeff Williams let me see if I can bring
52:30
this up currently the Chief Operating Officer yeah and and he's the person that that people say would would would
52:37
take you know take the Reigns if if if something happened to like if if Tim Cook you know you know had a had a heart
52:45
attack today or whatever yeah and he's Apple's coo coo yeah and and the you
52:51
know the the problem with him is that he's almost the same age as cook cook is 6 three and he you know Tim Cook has
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already said in interviews he doesn't plan to be CEO for another 10 years uh which is a fairly long time
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um Jeff Williams is the go-to if if if Apple has to put somebody a place in an
53:14
instant uh but Plan B is supposedly John turnis uh and there's a lot of reasons
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you know for one thing he's more than a decade younger than either cook and Williams he's been taking the you know center stage in a lot of their
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presentations lately mhm uh this this report comes from
53:30
you'll never guess who uh Bloomberg they quote some uh they quote
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some people in this thing some sources and all that uh one thing is T Tim likes him a lot because he can give a good
53:45
presentation he's very mild-mannered never puts anything into an email that is controversial and is a very reticent
53:52
decision maker he's got a very good squint too which is important sounds very Tim Cook likee he's got a he smiles
53:58
a lot yeah he smiles and his smile looks a little bit more genuine than Tim Cook's oh for sure I don't even know if
54:05
Tim Cook has an actual smile it's just like what he's trained his facial muscles to
54:11
do initiate EXC actually that's not that's not fair or true every time Tim
54:17
Cook sees a negotiation come through right he's like oh yeah y'all like when
54:23
he's able to negotiate down to like 0. oh oh oh oh oh oh decimal point and save
54:29
like that percentage of cost on a component like he's all smiles all day it makes his whole day there was like
54:35
one story I don't remember where I where I read this but there was like one story that said that Tim Cook has like such
54:41
like a like laser precise eyesight or like Vision that like he can see and
54:47
like just because your mind like because of his training as like Operating Officer he can he can like look at a
54:54
table and tell you if there's like a you know like a a few millimeters of Bend in the middle of the table and like
54:59
apparently there's like a thing where like he gets his desk in his office replaced like every six months because
55:05
it starts to flex a little bit and it bothers him what where did you hear this there's that can't be true I I I read it
55:12
like a it was a few years ago but although he looks like a man with eagle eyes doesn't he he does somebody asked
55:18
him like so what's that like and Tim Cook said my life is a living hell like I can look at this table right
55:24
that we're sitting at right now and see that it's slightly flexing oh yesik I don't remember where I was
55:30
going with that but well welcome to my world Griffin welcome to my world um anything else on that uh well you know
55:38
um turnis has a you know he's overseen Hardware engineering on iPhone iPad airpods Mac and the Mac Mac transition
55:44
to Apple silicon one thing I thought was interesting about this you know they do there were quotes in this story of people
55:51
saying like maybe he's that he's like not as well respected by top engineers doesn't seem like a you know real strong
55:58
decision maker um I love this people blame him for the MacBook Pro Touch bar
56:05
well if that's true then he's lost my vote hey you know what I think the touch bar was awesome yeah but the problem is
56:11
there there's only like one 1,000 people that actually believes that LE right I know uh they also say that you know
56:19
Apple silicon would have happened faster if if he hadn't been uh you know in the
56:24
loop there but here's the here's the kicker uh this comes from you know yet
56:29
another uh anonymous source um quote Eddie Q the Apple executive known as
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Cook's closest Confidant has privately told colleagues that turnis should be the next
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CEO according to a person with knowledge of the matter huh there you go that seals it he's got Eddie's vote he's got
56:49
mine they need someone young man they need some fresh perspective in there
56:54
yeah what do you think about turnis in these events well look he's one of the youngest that they have he's got cool Factor main
57:02
qualification looks cool well look if you you look like you'd be a fun guy to talk to I I wouldn't say that's true no
57:09
I wouldn't say that's true no it looks pretty serious it looks like he got a smile on his face yeah like one of the
57:16
more legitimately enthusiastic people about Apple products a lot of people in these presentations
57:23
look a little bit like they might be you know that's that's what I'm saying man's got that youthful energy and I love the
57:29
fact that the bottom of his head is almost as white as the top the chin he's got he's got all the the the chin is in
57:37
dude look at that thing that might be the whitest chin I've ever seen it is I'm showing it man I got a picture of
57:44
him of of him up right now he's got it you know it's funny I never actually noticed just how big his chin is and now
57:49
I'm never gonna be able to unsee it thanks it's huge I mean that is a manly chin right there it is like
57:56
four or five inches across at the at the point it they they must take him so long
58:02
to shave like he must spend so much time sh you have all that acreage you know that's right probably takes them more
58:07
time to shave than it takes for me to do my hair and yeah it it might be easier
58:12
because his his face is only flat smoth yeah it's right angles only so Hune from
58:19
solid Granite look at that thing man he just goes over to a sand a sander and just like you know Place face down on
58:25
the left on the right and the sparks flying off everywhere yeah he could he could have been the maror man look at him you know
58:33
um all this talk about this in the past week I was watching you know some clips from an old Apple presentation I think I
58:40
was gussing up one of our uh uh today and Apple history post or
58:46
something like that but for some reason I had an occasion to watch an open it's like Tim Cook introducing something it
58:54
was iPad Pro the first iPad Pro and and then he was uh you know handing off to Phil Schiller you know what my God I
59:02
miss those Live Events me too I'm tired of these cand wins they just they just the more of them that happened the less
59:09
I care about them and the more formulaic they feel the more like an infomercial and it just there's
59:15
something missing man I I don't the live live you know I don't know if it's the
59:21
you don't know if something's going to screw up or if just it just seems more real more human right I mean I I feel
59:26
like Tim Cook goes into you know full marketing mode in these things you know and it's it's just it's yeah he's not
59:32
good live and and I think even more than that I know what they're trying to do they're they're trying to move away from
59:39
having one face represent the company just like when they had Steve Jobs it's
59:46
the same thing that Disney's doing I mean they're moving away from like the vision of Walt Disney and they're moving
59:51
away from identifying with him now they're not completely disconnecting him but like they almost never talk about
59:56
him anymore and they don't want to hang that off of one person but the problem
1:00:01
is especially with maybe this is not a problem because only guys like us like us actually watch
1:00:07
the keynote but like it's like watching SNL the more you get to know somebody in
1:00:12
their style the more you enjoy their performance on SNL and if they bring in new people every single show and you're
1:00:18
like who are these people every time I watch an episode it's like a new person that I've never seen before then you're
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just not as connected to it like people like to have connections with the people that they're seeing on the screen and
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feel like they know them at some level and if it's always somebody new like what Apple's doing then it does kind of
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make it more corporate because now it's just well you know John Brown Clover from the homepod division it's like okay
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cool last week it was you know uh tub grovesan and now he's gone it's like
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every single week you're bringing in a new person and I never really I I I don't know who this person is like oh they're a program manager cool like I
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want to I want to face man I want to chin I want something that I can gravitate towards that I actually like
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Steve Jobs you were in for a performance and you liked that and you wanted that
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and it made you feel connected with the company you were also just I don't know
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there was something more they tell a joke in the Live Events and you hear the crowd like laugh back
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you know like a laugh track you know on the Live Events you don't you don't get that there's just like the awkward silence having laugh track you know
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it it really helps with those sorts of things you know anytime I have to watch a I have to go back and watch a keynot when I'm researching an article or
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something like you know I mean that's like 45 minutes gone because I just you know they're they're really enthralling
1:01:38
I like watching them yeah they have that live slower they had a much slower Pace
1:01:44
too you know these new ones are just like zing zing zing zing you know when I watch them I feel like I'm watching a
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ping pong match you know and it's just it's hard it's harder to write as like someone who covers these two cuz like
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you know during during the Live Events like you know they're designed to have journalists in the room live blogging about it but when we do like the live
1:02:01
Apple events like the iPad one last week I mean I had to I I just had to like pause it and I didn't finish the keynote
1:02:07
for like an extra hour because I was still writing about the dang iPad yeah yeah they're very dense but that's
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almost kind of what you need to do in order to keep people engaged in something that's not alive because it
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loses the energy and so it has to be faster paced to like keep people watching it I don't know we have so many
1:02:24
stories left I I don't even know if we're going to finish all this stuff like uh do you want me to just take the most interesting one out of the three
1:02:31
yeah let's just let's just do that and then let's although we tease some of these other ones so I feel maybe we have
1:02:37
to talk about them yeah let me tell you about the iPhone 17 lineup first let's do it let's do it let's let's do that
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yeah so we already kind of know what the iPhone 16's going to be like this fall apple reportedly pled some big changes
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for next year's iPhone 17 lineup the changes include a smaller Dynamic Island and a quote more complex aluminum design
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but here's where it gets interesting the company might revamp its lineup with the addition of the iPhone 17 slim oh
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they've always kind of like struggled like like ever since they had the capacity to make four phones a year the
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the fourth phone they've always they they don't really know what to do there like there's the regular iPhone the iPhone plus it doesn't seem to be doing
1:03:18
very well the iPhone Mini sadly my my heart pours out for that every single day you know the iPhone pro and pro Max
1:03:25
that's doing great but like what do they do with the fourth one well Jeff Pew thinks Apple will reshuffle its lineup
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in 2025 with a slim model as the name indicates the phone will seemingly stand out in the lineup with a slim design it
1:03:38
would replace the iPhone 16 plus this corroborates a recent rumor suggesting
1:03:43
that the 2025 model will have a slightly smaller display than this
1:03:49
year's Pew also says Apple will debut a quote more complex aluminum design on
1:03:55
the iPhone 7 17 slim and 17 Pro so uh currently the
1:04:01
iPhone 15 pro and pro Max are both titanium but uh only the iPhone 17 Pro
1:04:08
Max will continue using titanium and it will get a narrow dnamic Island uh those
1:04:14
two features will remain exclusive to the biggest one all four iPhone 17
1:04:19
models might feature a 24 megapixel front-facing camera uh da da da da you know promotion displays is always on
1:04:26
support come at all of them but what do we think about an iPhone 17
1:04:32
slim I don't know man I that means they going have to slim down the battery and I'm like I don't see them doing
1:04:40
that they're gonna want to get as much battery life out out as they can so I I just don't really I find this kind of
1:04:47
hard to digest well a lot of people yeah you know a lot of people really like the new iPad Pros how how how skinny and thin
1:04:54
they are and honestly since they the they switched to like the you know modern design with the iPhone 12 they
1:05:01
haven't been getting thinner at all they they've stayed about the same thickness I think they've actually gotten a little thicker especially with the camera like
1:05:07
the camera is huge on it yeah ridiculous so maybe maybe with that uh you know fourth model of iPhone it's basically
1:05:14
still a free space for them you know it's it's like their experimental spot maybe they're going to try and see what it's like if they try to optimize a
1:05:20
phone for thinness again I would mind a thinner phone iPhone six
1:05:26
is the skinniest iPhone they've ever made and that was like you know 2014 they haven't made an iPhone so skinny in
1:05:33
10 years I'm over the thinness thing like I when when me too can't stop eating
1:05:41
Johnny I was here he was all about thin and light thin and light thin and light and thin and light is great but as long
1:05:47
as you're not sacrificing too much to get there I don't want you pulling out every single port that belongs on a
1:05:55
computer and reducing battery life by 40% just because you want to make it thin that doesn't make any sense like
1:06:01
thin is great but it needs to be balanced with everything else that someone needs on a computer or or a
1:06:06
phone and if there are people that would sacrifice battery life for a thin a thin phone like that's great I don't know how
1:06:12
many people there would be that would do that but I imagine there are some I don't think I would sacrifice battery
1:06:18
life for a thinner phone I think especially with the reduction in size of and weight of the
1:06:24
new 15 series phones I I'm happy with where they are now I'll always take
1:06:30
thinner lighter well particularly lighter I don't even really care about thinner I just want to have lighter as
1:06:35
light it as light as you can make it is is what I would like but that's just me I don't know L what you think I mean
1:06:41
with the screen size continuing to get bigger it's not like they're losing that much area you know like the the it's
1:06:46
still probably more volumous than like the iPhone 5S or the iPhone 4 so they still have space for more battery and
1:06:52
all the components have gotten like smaller you know as Apple silicon is ADV you know the actual circuit board inside
1:06:58
and especially since they switched over to eim like you know they can have a greater proportion of the inside be
1:07:04
battery yeah that might very well may be true and and and so if they could fit the same amount of battery but make it
1:07:10
they could smush it down more and just have it spread out more inside the phone because they have the extra space I mean
1:07:16
that actually sounds kind of nice but you know what leis what I'm
1:07:22
tired of having a phone that's just not folded that's what I really want like all these phones it's like oh look it's
1:07:30
unfolded I take it out I can just use it that's boring loose that's not what can't be folded unfold I want an extra
1:07:35
step you you can't even and if you do try to fold it guess what you can't use it anymore I found that out the hard way
1:07:42
Le I have all of these Square pockets in my pants these perfectly Square Pockets that are very thick and my phone is just
1:07:49
too skinny and too rectangular shaped what am I supposed to put in there that's right I buy I buy my jeans from
1:07:54
Costco they say kkin on the label I could fit I could fit a cellone from 1985 in
1:08:00
my pocket loose and that's what I'm looking for
1:08:06
well uh you might be in luck you might be able to get a folding iPhone no you
1:08:12
might be you might be out when the 2026 is the latest date oh my I'm gonna have
1:08:18
to deal with thin until then yeah I've been waiting so long Louis I just want
1:08:24
to fold it you know what oddly enough I a guy on my
1:08:29
darts team has a folding phone and I looked down on the table yesterday and I saw it sitting there I'm like oh my God
1:08:34
somebody's phone is broken in half I'm like oh wait someone said on this phone purpose it's on purpose it's inten they
1:08:41
look weird you know it's like it seemed like it was an inch tall anyway yeah they're super thick and they always have that weird seam in the middle yeah can't
1:08:48
bear to look at them and they always break after six months and then there's that so this rumor comes from Jeff H
1:08:56
again who's going to have to get some kind of MVP award on for this week's show uh so he says the first iPhone with
1:09:02
a fing screen will go into production in 2026 second such report in recent months could be assigned apple is really ready
1:09:08
to move ahead with the product you know they've been talking about it and doing patents and everything for ages uh this
1:09:16
is from our story those who resist the idea of foldable devices that's people like you are Fon usually question how
1:09:23
they could be better than current ones the device Apple has on the drawing board reported come with a display significantly larger than any previous
1:09:29
iPhone between 7.9 in and 8 8.3 in sounds perfect for my pocket and as we
1:09:35
as we point out that's impractical for a non-folding phone yeah impractical it's
1:09:41
impractical uh supposedly would not take the place of current models in Apple's product lineup hope be something like an
1:09:47
iPhone fold in addition to an iPhone Pro and regular iPhone uh but this is going
1:09:52
to be for the you won't believe this quote Ultra ra high-end Market close qu
1:09:59
people who are willing to pay even higher prices for a Cutting Edge product sheesh how much never could have never
1:10:06
could have guessed that one yeah let's see uh yeah we've been hear about it since 2024 blah blah blah
1:10:13
trying to make a device is Slim iPhone once foldable screen without a visible crease that seems like table Stakes to
1:10:20
me no visible crease I don't know how I I keep I remember when they first were talking about bendable glass I'm like
1:10:26
what what what yeah anyway well you know what
1:10:32
else might be foldable and before that actually and I would say that I'm even more interested in this product than I
1:10:38
would be a foldable iPhone that's a foldable MacBook is this one from
1:10:46
Jeff pew2 Mr it is Mr popular who is this guy coming out of nowhere according
1:10:53
to Jeff Pew from height Tong International Securities we don't know how accurate this guy is do we a 20.3 in
1:11:00
foldable Macbook will go into production near the end of 20125 this isn't the first time we've
1:11:05
heard of this device oh yeah we've definitely talked about this before uh analyst Ming C talked about it in March
1:11:11
and Ross young said in early 2022 that a 20-in Macbook is in the first stages of
1:11:17
development but Pew is the first to say that the notebook tablet will come out
1:11:22
in 2025 which is next year as reported by the Voldemort of tech blogs they who
1:11:30
Champion names all right 95 Ma I hate even saying it Pew's sources are in
1:11:36
Apple's component supply chain where he claims there's increasingly increasing
1:11:41
Talk of the device the folding MacBook screen supposedly won't Sur plant
1:11:47
current models so the just like the phone it's going to be a unit for the
1:11:53
ultra high-end Market willing to pay even higher prices unfolded it could be
1:11:58
held in the lap while the user writes or draws with the stylus Steve Jobs dream right there or
1:12:04
it could be set on a table with a Bluetooth keyboard and a mouse as thought as though it were a portable
1:12:13
Mac there you go that's it it's weird calling this a
1:12:20
foldable MacBook because it sounds more like a foldable iPad and it may turn out to be that
1:12:25
Lo it may turn out to be exactly that something that it's just a bigger iPad
1:12:33
because you can't make a iPad much an iPad much bigger without making it kind of unruly to carry around like you can't
1:12:39
have like a 20-inch iPad that thing's ridiculous what what are you going to do with that cut carry under your arm put
1:12:44
in your backpack like no way get out of here get out of my face you got to have a way to make it more portable and
1:12:49
people can handle thickness but thickness and the length
1:12:58
no oh dear this somewhere but I'm going to leave it there that sounds like
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