Jury’s in: Samsung found guilty of infringing Apple’s patents, again

Photo: Jim Merithew/Cult of Mac

Photo: Jim Merithew/Cult of Mac

The jury is done deliberating. The results are in. And Samsung is guilty. Again.

Weeks of legal sparring between Apple and Samsung has finally culminated this week in San Jose, as a federal jury just ruled that Samsung did indeed infringe on at least one of Apple’s patents while it only partially infringed on others.

After three full days of deliberation the jury found that all of Samsung’s accused phones infringed on at least one patent, while some devices did not infringe on other patents in question like universal search.

The verdict comes after the jury heard more than 50 hours of testimony from both sides as Apple sought a total of $2.2 billion in damages. Samsung argued that it only owed Apple $38 million at most, but was also seeking $6 million from Apple on patent infringement claims of its own.

In the end the jury awarded Apple an underwhelming $119.6 million after the company was awarded around $1 billion from Samsung in 2012.

  • taz89

    Great win for Apple, not bad 120 million return from the 2.2 billion they wanted.

    • exzrael

      Great loss to since Apple has to pay Samsung about 158 million for patent infringement. But apparently Cult of Mac didn’t like me posting a comment with link before…

      • Sander Cortenraad

        No… You misread that. It was $158,000, not $158 million. So you’re off by a factor of one-thousand. Better luck next time troll.

        Source: http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-samsung-verdict/

      • Tariq

        It’s actually 158K, bro. Maybe you should read before posting?

      • exzrael

        Crap, I so wanted it to be 158 million!

      • r l

        read much? you must be 7…dufus

  • digitaldumdum

    “Jury’s in: Samsung found guilty of infringing Apple’s patents, again”

    And, in fairness, vice versa.

    • Kr00

      Sorry? Can you point to a link that backs up your comment?

      • d33b
      • digitaldumdum

        Certainly. But as it’s all over the news, a careful reading of any well-reported article would show you the same. This line—much the same as in any other story—comes from recode.net:

        “Meanwhile, the panel ruled that Apple violated one of two Samsung patents that the company had countersued over, but ruled the infringement was not willful and awarded only the $158,400.”

        As an ardent Apple fan… make that HUGE Apple fan, I always want to think the best of my favorite company. In fact, it is a corporation, and like people, corporations make mistakes, intentional or inadvertent. The jury obviously felt this patent infringement on Apple’s part was not willful, evidenced by the amount of the award to Samsung. Still, it was an infringement. Samsung clearly *did* willfully infringe on Apple, and I couldn’t be happier they’re being fined. It should have been a lot more in my opinion, but there is wisdom in trying to limit these litigations. (Now BP? That’s another matter. Fine ‘em till it hurts ‘em.)

      • digitaldumdum

        Certainly. But as it’s all over the news, a careful reading of any well-reported article would show you the same. This line—much the same as in any other story—comes from recode:

        “Meanwhile, the panel ruled that Apple violated one of two Samsung patents that the company had countersued over, but ruled the infringement was not willful and awarded only the $158,400.”

        As an ardent Apple fan… make that HUGE Apple fan, I always want to think the best of my favorite company. In fact, it is a corporation, and like people, corporations make mistakes, intentional or inadvertent. The jury obviously felt this patent infringement on Apple’s part was not willful, evidenced by the amount of the award to Samsung. Still, it was an infringement. Samsung clearly *did* willfully infringe on Apple, and I couldn’t be happier they’re being fined. It should have been a lot more in my opinion, but there is wisdom in trying to limit these litigations. (Now BP? That’s another matter. Fine ‘em till it hurts ‘em.)

  • Alaskanoo

    Oh crap. Now Apple will have to dance on the streets of California.

    • tonyadams66

      It does not mean they do need to dance in the streets of California, But this verdict surprises them to protect their unique innovations.

  • iMimime

    Apple was found guilty of infringing as well. Typical cult of mac article..

    • Kr00

      Any evidence to back your idiotic claim Mr troll?

      • Dario K

        I am in no way a troll however reading this: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/03/samsung-ordered-to-pay-apple-120m-for-patent-violation

        Quote “The jury also found Apple had infringed one of Samsung’s patents.”

        No trolling on my part, happy Apple fan here..

      • d33b
      • Kr00

        Dario, The number of infringements on behalf of Apple are in the few, compared to Samescum and fit into a narrow, technical range. Samsescum on the other hand made a deliberate attempt to copy “what Apple are doing”, as said by one of their own heads. It affected the market, and cost them over $1 billion dollars, because of its commercial impact. Nobody could hardly say what Apple infringed upon, had any commercial impact, let alone $1 billion dollars worth.

      • digitaldumdum

        iMimime, he hit me up with the same (albeit slightly more polite but still sarcastic) accusation of not knowing my facts. I was fine with it until I noticed he called you “Mr. troll.” Since that •usually• indicates someone below the age of 15, I’m sorry I wasted my breath.

      • Sander Cortenraad

        http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-samsung-verdict/

        Both companies violated patents as you can read. Although the numbers ($119 million for Apple, and $158,000 for Samsung) are hardly comparable.

      • Guest

        Certainly. But as it’s all over the news, a careful reading of any well-reported article would show you the same. This line—much the same as in any other story—comes from recode:

        “Meanwhile, the panel ruled that Apple violated one of two Samsung patents that the company had countersued over, but ruled the infringement was not willful and awarded only the $158,400.”

        As an ardent Apple fan… make that HUGE Apple fan, I always want to think the best of my favorite company. In fact, it is a corporation, and like people, corporations make mistakes, intentional or inadvertent. The jury obviously felt this patent infringement on Apple’s part was not willful, evidenced by the amount of the award to Samsung. Still, it was an infringement. Samsung clearly *did* willfully infringe on Apple, and I couldn’t be happier they’re being fined. It should have been a lot more in my opinion, but there is wisdom in trying to limit these litigations. (Now BP? That’s another matter. Fine ‘em till it hurts ‘em.)

      • iMimime

        Son, I’ve used iphones since its launch – iphone, 3, 4,4s, 5 & 5s. Also own mulitple ipads and ipods. The matter of fact is, samsung (note that it’s not spelt samescum) infringed on two patents which were licensed to samsung by google. Apple infringed on one of samsung’s patents as well. Two vs one is NOT a significantly different. Also, take a look at the new features in ios7. Tell me that’s not copied from android. Not to mention ipad mini and larger iphones – following android much? It’s uneducated scums like you who makes the entire apple users look like bunch of spoiled hipsters.

  • exzrael

    Yes, Apple also got slamed with a verdict saying they infringed on patents – and they must pay more then Samsung.

    http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/05/03/apple-v-samsung-damages-breakdown-revealed-in-jury-verdict-form

  • Kr00

    To quote Mic Wright, writing for The Kernel, after visiting Samsung HQ:

    “The idea that South Korea is a shiny futurescape of democratic wonder is ultimately the result of sitting next to the fetid, Communist disaster that is North Korea.

    The South looks better, thanks to the success consumer technology and semiconductors has brought, it but the grip of the chaebols is pernicious and corruption lies beneath every facet of Korean society.

    You’re welcome to love Android and hate Apple. Just don’t be fooled into thinking Samsung are the good guys.”

  • Sander Cortenraad

    What is pretty big about this verdict is that for the first time (I believe ever) in the world that a jury (or a judge in jurisdictions which don’t have jury trials) that another company has been awarded damages from Apple for violating a non Standard-Essential patent. All earlier (counter-)claims by Samsung had centred around SEP/FRAND-patents (mainly concerning 3G connectivity) which are treated differently under law than design or software patents. Apparantly it was Samsung’s ‘449 patent for an “apparatus for recording and reproducing digital image and speech” (whatever that means, but it sounds camera related). But that wasn’t invented by Samsung at all, they acquired the IP from Hitachi, who did the actual inventing and stuff.

    But still, a mixed bag for Apple, since they’ve now lost their high horse as to their claims of being a peerless innovator. As a matter of law they’ve now violated a software patent.

  • Prasad Tiruvalluri

    Apple found infringing Samsung patents again. It might have to run to Obama. Again..

    • r l

      Whatever moron, the jury said THE ONE patent infringement was unintentional AND NOT EVEN INVENTED BY THEM (read above post) it was purchased for the purpose of asserting against Apple for this trial! Besides, even if they tried to license Samesung would have tried to tie it to a broader agreement to protect them from the current litigation and any FUTURE copying, as they have in all previous negotiations, which is why those talks always fail. that’s like telling Apple, hey if you sign this, count on us copying your designs in the future. As far as going to Obama, of course, allow a ban on the iphone due to a bogus FRAND assertion against an American company by a foreign one?! Umm, any prez would say, I don’t think so, dumba**.. and bravo to him for it.

      • Prasad Tiruvalluri

        moron
        ˈmɔːrɒn/
        noun
        informal
        a stupid person.
        Suits you perfect.
        Apple copied. It has copied Hitachi Patents so what. It is a copycat too. Apple got beat fair and square and it now has zero incentive to go after Samsung in further cases so I think this is a tragic end to Suck Jobs thermonuclear war..

        Apple should hang its head in shame as this has happened in its own backyard, with a judge who has been partial to Apple all along and a sympathetic jury.

        All over the world Apple won nothing in 50 months of litigation. What has apple lost – Made to apologize in UK papers and its own website to Samsung.. ITC ban which had to be over turned after it ran to Obama with its tail between its legs..,

        Samsung asked for 158k for its patent and it was awarded the total amount. The rest of it was the other patent which was not given.

        The Data Detectors patent by Apple was laughed off by Judge Posner in the Motorola Case and Apple was only asking for 60c in that case and suddenly it wants $12 in this case. The jury really taught Apple a lesson. Not sure if Apple is really smart enough to learn it though..

  • http://www.thegraphicmac.com/ JimD

    Sensationalistic (and inaccurate) headlines. Rushed & un-researched copy. Yep. I must be at Cult of Morons.

  • ianthetechman

    Apple are a great company but I do wish they would simply give this up now they have won this time. The big winners on both side really are the lawyers

  • http://www.igeeksblog.com/ Jignesh Padhiyar

    So is this the end of the great Apple vs Samsung lawsuit? Or are we going to witness more?

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