Suicides and Poisonings at Apple’s Chinese Manufacturers Provoke Calls for Investigation

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Suicides and Poisonings at Apple’s Chinese Manufacturers Provoke Calls for Investigation

Foxconn Technology, the world’s largest electronics contractor and main supplier of most of Apple’s componentys, is once again in the news over the welfare of its employees in China after it racked up its sixth employee suicide this year.

The most recent suicide occurred in Foxconn’s factory city in Shenzen, where one of their 300,000 workers leaped to her death from her rented apartment. This follows a suicide last week by a 24-year old male factory worker, who also jumped to his death from the top of a dormitory building.

“We regret to see the recurrence of such incidents,” Foxconn said in a statement.

Apple has had bad publicity due to the way Foxconn treats its workers before.

In 2006, Apple launched an internal investigation over the matter of Foxconn “iPod Cities in which hundreds of thousands of employees worked in extreme squalor for pennies a day, and ultimately rejected the claims of abuse, noting that most workers’ biggest complaint was that they couldn’t work more overtime.

Foxconn’s latest slate of worker suicides calls into question the veracity of that report, as does a strike of 2000 workers earlier this month at fellow Apple contractor Wintek over 47 cases of hexane poisonings at the company’s Suzhou factories.

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Not only did a survey by a local agency in the case of the Wintek poisonings find that managers at Wintek repeatedly deceived investigators trying to figure out the cause of the poisonings, but that none of their interviewees had ever even heard of Apple’s contractor code of conduct, which is meant to be enforced at the factories of all of manufacturing partners to guarantee the well-being of employees.

In America, Apple is one of the best and most employee-conscious companies in tech, but consistent reports of worker abuse and unhappiness in China really does raise the question: is Apple having the wool pulled over its eyes by companies like Foxconn and Wintek over the well-being of the workers who make our MacBooks and iPads?

Possibly not, but at the very least, it seems like its time for another internal Apple investigation… and a statement reaffirming Apple’s interest in the emotional and physical wellness of their contracted workers overseas.

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John BrownleeJohn Brownlee is news editor here at Cult of Mac, and has also written about a lot of things for a lot of different places, including Wired, Playboy, Boing Boing, Popular Mechanics, Gizmodo, Kotaku, Lifehacker, AMC, Geek and the Consumerist. He lives in Cambridge with his charming inamorata and a tiny budgerigar punningly christened after Nabokov's most famous pervert. You can follow him here on Twitter.

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  • Phil

    “Pennies a day”? “Extreme squalor”?

    So what are they being paid and how does it compare to the cost of living in China? You also mention “extreme squalor” with a hyperlink that dismisses the accusation.

    Journalism requires context. Otherwise – this isn’t news. It’s bullshit.

  • Barry Wood

    According to 2003 data from the World Health Organization (http://www.who.int/mental_health/prevention/suicide/suiciderates/en/) the chinese suicide rate per year was about 28 per 100,000 people. At the current rate the Foxcomm employees are going to be somewhere in the 5 per 100,000 range, well below the national average.

  • John Brownlee

    “So what are they being paid and how does it compare to the cost of living in China? You also mention “extreme squalor” with a hyperlink that dismisses the accusation.”

    Uh, that’s the point. Apple rejected the original reports that workers worked for pennies a day in extreme squalor. I made that clear.

  • Maxwell Genaw

    We need jobs here in the United States Apple can manufacture the parts in China and have the products made here in the United States what ever happened to business ethics and human rights!

    I have been an Apple computer owner for 4 years now I love there products but it discusses me that all there products are made in China! Come on Apple take the first step and lets start creating jobs here!

  • Mat

    Max, it discusses you? I’d worry about Number One first, homie.

  • Josh

    “We need jobs here in the United States Apple can manufacture the parts in China and have the products made here in the United States what ever happened to business ethics and human rights!

    I have been an Apple computer owner for 4 years now I love there products but it discusses me that all there products are made in China! Come on Apple take the first step and lets start creating jobs here!”

    All the misspelling aside, this is pure idiocy… iPads would have to cost thousands of dollars for them to make anywhere near the profit they make off of them now. And making profit is their goal.. not making you happy.

    If everything was made in the U.S. nothing would be affordable. Take an economics class.

  • king

    This is capitalism at its best!
    Plus If people in China committing suicide in a non-Apple factory, how is this an Apple problem?

    Looks more like a Chinese problem

  • Neak

    There should probably some sort of iPad/iPhone app for this………

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Reply Josh, Mat

    Mat I am not your homie, I dont talk nigger!

    Sorry I dont have time to spell check every blog that I post a comment on, plus I needed my caffeine. two words get a life! and leave your parents basement for god sakes hi! hi!

    Answer to Josh lets send your a** to work in toxic factories, your an idiot I said assemble them!

  • charli

    in the end Josh it doesn’t really fix anything in terms of worker treatment. the factories would just be treating the workers that build the parts like crap.

    The only way that Apple could get out of this culpability would be to set up parts and build factories in at least the US if not every major sales area directly under their control. but that also opens up all kinds of legal issues since they would have to patent tons of tech from all over the place etc

  • Josh

    First Max… I think you mean “your’e* an idiot”, also get a life is 3 words. I especially love how you have the manners to censor yourself writing a**, but you drop the n-word in the previous sentence.

    Charlie,

    Thank you for atleast being civil. I never offered any solutions.. Everyone knows the shortcomings of our global economy, and I don’t need to get into that. I am stating that bringing those types of jobs to the U.S. will never and can never happen in the economic system we are in. That’s the bottom line. You may not like how workers are treated, but if every worker in the world was treated like American workers, we would not have any of the mass produced, affordable electronics that we have. Or any product for that matter. Things would just cost too much to make mass production feasible. And even if people say they don’t like how workers in China are treated, I think they would change their minds really quick if they could see what things would be like if it were not that way. It’s greedy and selfish, but at least we are the ones on the better end and I am grateful for that.

  • Josh

    Max is this you?

    http://www.google.com/profiles/mpgenaw

    Your language is not becoming of the President of MaximunPC.. lol

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Reply Josh

    What are you some kind of stalker? Like I said get out of your parents basement and get a real job! I bet your one of these people with a real big mouth and no action, typical. Yes that is me I do not hide my real name or who I am if you don’t like what I say good for you! This is America last time a I knew maybe you should go live in China with your buddy Obama.

    Like I said talk no action just dribble…

    Oh yeah, All you English scholars lol is not a real word, give me a break!

  • Josh

    What at all have I said implies I am a liberal? (Not even close) I figured there couldn’t be too many jackasses out there with the name Maxwell Genaw, and as it turns out, you are some pimply-ass, racist kid that has no idea what the hell he is talking about. I’m actually at my desk at my real job (not some made-up company I created). Also, I never said that you can’t say how you feel. I am just pointing out that in doing so, you are allowing the entire world to see how ignorant you are.

    Now, I am embarrassed that I am even having this conversation with you.. I’ve said my piece, I’m out-

    Josh B.

  • tetsuo shima

    daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnnn josh! daaaaaaaaaaaamnnnnnn!

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Reply Josh

    Your not a liberal your a fascist “WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE” I am not a kid I am 25 and I probably make more money then you ever will hi! hi! I have been in business for 8 years and I hope you like your 9 to 5 job, maybe you will be in the unemployment line, I hope. Then you can take your fat ass and go to China and dream about your 5 cents a day job!

    Don’t be embarrassed Josh, you will learn someday :)

    STALKER

  • porkchop1234

    @Josh specifically
    Firstly:
    I wonder where you got your economics degree from because your statement about it being to expensive to manufacture anything in N. America is complete white collar bull. The N. American continent (U.S. Canada, Mexico) is one of the largest economic zones in the world and its that big because of the gross domestic products it produces. One of the chief reasons the economy has long been battered and the middle class has slowly been shrinking is that jobs have been exported overseas to 2nd and 3rd world countries because of greedy companies who instead of making 10 billion dollars demand to make 30 billion dollars. You see an economy is completely dependent on its citizenry and the spending power the public has. The more money Joe/Jane Public has the more he/she is going to spend on various products and the better the economy will flourish. Take away that spending power and Joe/Jane Public doesn’t spend as much because he/she is more interested in buying enough food instead of buying say a car or a cell phone or a iMac or a toaster.

    Of coarse certain mega corps who have hijacked the economy don’t give a damn about Joe/Jane Public as long as they can maximize profit shares and stick the money that should be flowing through the economy in their own bank accounts they’re happy. Apple is no angel that I’m positive of BUT they’re stuck in a catch 22 situation for the simple fact if they want to compete with say Toshiba laptops or HP/Sony desktops they have to manufacture overseas. Of coarse I don’t believe for a minute that if they were to say open a couple of plants here or there in the U.S. they would go belly up tomorrow because they have the deep enough pockets in that they could easily do that BUT they wouldn’t be making as much profit as say from a product assembled in China. If govts would just work for its citizenry instead of its mega corps this crap wouldn’t happen or at least wouldn’t happen so much.

    Personally I have a huge problem with the Chinese govt. In the above article the word squalor was used and as far as I’m concerned its 100% bang on. Why do I think its bang on and wheres my proof? You only have to look at the actions on the current Chinese govt for the proof. This is a ruling govt body who tried to hack Google in order to get information from email accounts on human rights activists. This is also the same govt who arrested their own children (students in Tiananmen Square) and shot them in the head all the while broadcasting it on public TV. If that wasn’t enough they then sent a bill to the families of these students they MURDERED demanding payment for the cost of the bullet to shoot their family members with (if you don’t believe me then Google it and you’ll find enough articles about it on old news feeds).

    What these student protesters wanted was very simple. They wanted what we have which is freedom of open speech, freedom of open elections, and freedom of disclosure in able to make the current Chinese govt directly responsible for its CRIMES against its own people. Its interesting now that I think about it while writing this I realize that as a Canadian who has the Charter Of Rights And Freedom and you as an American who has your Bill Of Rights these things are only pieces of paper. You see to me the freedom of all I have mentioned beforehand is God given. It makes me feel sorry for those old govt fools in communist China because they are in for such a rude wake up call in the next life because God never sleeps. Of coarse thats a completely diffrent discussion.

    The fact that after Tienanmen Square the world only grandstanded for a few months then closed their eyes while open trade continued is a testament to how callous the international community (especially the west) can be. The international community sits by while a few old men run the largest country in the world for their own pleasure while sitting on the bones of their own dead citizens. Squalor. You know there’s really a lot of different levels of squalor when you really stop to think about it. That’s the word used in Mr Brownlees article and I believe the word is 100% correct because the Chinese govt treats their John/Jane Does like complete shit and their actions in the past more then prove it.

    Finally:
    These comments you made really disturbs me and I quote:

    You may not like how workers are treated, but if every worker in the world was treated like American workers, we would not have any of the mass produced, affordable electronics that we have. Or any product for that matter.

    It’s greedy and selfish, but at least we are the ones on the better end and I am grateful for that.

    We are talking about PEOPLE. They laugh like you, feel joy like you, feel sad like you, and feel pain like you. Do you seriously think that openly allowing someone to be both ECONOMICALLY ENSLAVED and MENTALLY DEGRADED is really worth you saving 10 bucks on a pair of jeans at Wal Mart, or saving an extra 50 bucks on a iphone or even an extra 100 bucks on a iMac? I suggest you give your head a shake and really stop and think about what you’re saying because the implications are very far reaching. If you think it doesn’t effect you you’re dead wrong because eventually what is happening to someone else’s society will eventually impact you and if not you then your children or grand children. Do you want to see your children or grand children turned into mindless drones with no future beyond a product assembly line? Trust me it can happen you have to only read some history books to realize that it can and has happened to various societies in the past and can happen again. I could add a lot more to this post but its already become huge enough.

    @Maxwell
    In future please take the time to properly edit your posts. I’m far from a Tolstoy but I take the time to do a quick 5 minute spell check to at least limit any glaring spelling errors. Also please refrain from using racist language. I’m sure there’s enough users on here who are black and its a hurtful word to them not to mention it only serves to make you look ignorant. If you want to push a view then push it using clear concise language and clear concise points that way people on here will take you more seriously. As it is you owe users on this thread an apology for using such a hurtful word.

    Bless

  • Warwick

    Open up your Dell. Open up your HP. Look at all the Foxconn branded components inside.

    Why does Apple get all the attention when there’s “OMG Foxconn” stories.

  • Peter Bloom

    If tech companies like Apple manufactured everything in the USA, the prices of products would double. And how many of the morons (who want them manufactured in the USA) are still willing to spend that kind of money on mobile devices? Well, morons? What is your answer? You willing to buy $980 iPhones or Droid handsets?

  • porkchop1234

    @ Peter Bloom
    I’m going to treat you the same way you just treated me.

    Hey FUCKHEAD would you want your daughter working in a place like this

    http://www.nlcnet.org/reports?id=0034&t=1

    just so you can have a cheaper phone/mouse/cam?

    Whats your answer to that huh FUCKHEAD? People like you make me want to puke. Tell me something is it the fact that you’re really that greedy, self centered and ignorant that you don’t care or is it the fact that the people who are being affected aren’t white? Do the world a favor Peter Bloom and go walk in front of a speeding truck.

  • porkchop1234

    P.S.

    Before any of the MS haters start piping in their dumb comments do any of you really think that Foxxconn is any better then KYE Systems Corp ? I highly doubt it.

  • tsi

    Blimey, this has been quite an experience reading this blog . The Maxwell Genaw character has got to be one of the dimmest people I have ever encountered. Basic spelling problems are hilarious. It has nothing to do with being a scholar. 7 year olds spell better than that. Also anyone who mentions that they earn more money than someone else is perhaps a tad insecure (My dad’s bigger than your dad etc…)

    In a word, a completely shallow halfwit. Hold on, that’s more than a word, or is it? Well we’ll be discussing that next week when we will be looking at advanced maths having dealt with elementary spelling for wankers this week.

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Reply
    tsi

    Calling all English scholars! tsi must be won, tsi get out of your room and experience the real world. Like I said before people like you have a fat mouth but no action. I bet your one of these college educated people with no real hands on experience about life and Mommy and Daddy paid for college and your car and your rent how does it feel to be such a panzy. Like I said before this is a blog with a quick comments section we are not writing a thesis to turn into your professor BITCH!

    Reply
    porkchop1234

    Wait until you experience a drive by shooting then tell me how much you love niggers! Screw off and your spell checking maybe you should become a English teacher or a speech writer this is a blog big deal!

    Keep it coming because I can dish it!

  • http://ihbs.co.uk ben

    Oh dear Maxwell, you should probably stop before you embarass yourself on the internet anymore…

  • Fearless Fred

    I know I shouldn’t do it, but it’s too tempting to not reply to Maxwell….

    Hi Maxwell, I have a few points for you to mull over….

    “We need jobs here in the United States Apple can manufacture the parts in China and have the products made here in the United States what ever happened to business ethics and human rights!” – That would be a bad business decision. As someone who’s been in the electronics industry for twenty years, I can tell you that from a cost perspective, you try to locate all your manufacturing as close together as possible. That way, you cut down on logistics and stocking costs. Also, the board of Apple (like that of any other company) have one primary focus: to maximise the profit of the company. To do that, they will locate their manufacturing (or outsource their manufacturing to be honest) wherever they can get the cheapest per unit cost. They haven’t got a “responsibility” to locate jobs in the US.

    “Reply Josh”: Come on, is it REALLY that difficult to type the words “in” and “to”?

    “I am not your homie, I dont talk nigger!”: Nor do you speak English, it seems.

    “Your not a liberal your a fascist “WORKERS OF THE WORLD UNITE” I am not a kid I am 25 and I probably make more money then you ever will hi! hi! I have been in business for 8 years and I hope you like your 9 to 5 job, maybe you will be in the unemployment line, I hope.”: I hope you spend a little more time on your language when talking/writing to your* customers. You’re** bordering on the unintelligible. (Note: *your means belonging to you, while **you’re means you are). Oh, and punctuation isn’t mandatory I know. But is sure helps to make a sentence readable.

    “Calling all English scholars! tsi must be won,” I think you mean “one”. (unless of course tsi is the prize in some sort of competition!).

    “I bet your one of these college educated people with no real hands on experience about life and Mommy and Daddy paid for college and your car and your rent how does it feel to be such a panzy.”: Tell me, what do you think the “?” and “.” keys on your keyboard are for?

    “Like I said before this is a blog with a quick comments section we are not writing a thesis to turn into your professor BITCH!”: Oh dear. Turn into? I hadn’t realised that a thesis could actually transform magically into a person. Or perhaps you meant “turn in to”?

    “Wait until you experience a drive by shooting then tell me how much you love niggers!”: Now you are just being racist and offensive.

    “Screw off and your spell checking maybe you should become a English teacher or a speech writer this is a blog big deal!”: No, in fact it’s that most of the other posters here have the common courtesy to actually spend more than a second when they write to make sure things are clear and easy to read.

    Oh, and can I just say that typing “hi! hi!” to supposedly signify laughter really *does* make you sound like a little teenager trying to impress.

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Fearless Fred

    Maybe you should be an English teacher your so smart pointing out spelling errors on a blog did you grow up in a cage near the computer? Racist no I don’t mind Mexican, Asian, Arab and many other ethnics but there is something about the black folk that bug the hell out of me! Impress no I impress NO ONE shows how shallow you are ah! hi! hi! I did it again!

    I hope they ship your job overseas, then you can be an English scholar in China you ass hole!

    Keep it coming!

  • http://ihbs.co.uk ben

    @Maxwell Genaw

    How drunk are you right now? Be honest…

  • Fearless Fred

    Max (If I can call you that?)

    “Maybe you should be an English teacher your so smart pointing out spelling errors on a blog”: Obviously not, considering you’re (note the spelling) still making a basic mistake that my 11 year old niece would be embarrassed of making.

    “did you grow up in a cage near the computer?”: What? If that’s supposed to be an insult, you really need to try harder. I did, however grow up in a time when floppy discs really *were* floppy, learning how to program in Fortran, etc.

    “Racist no I don’t mind Mexican, Asian, Arab and many other ethnics but there is something about the black folk that bug the hell out of me!”: Do you *seriously* not see the logical flaw there? (Oh, and I think the word you’re looking for is ethnicities).

    “Impress no I impress NO ONE shows how shallow you are”: Oh dear, that sentence is simply bereft of any sense whatsoever. Do you want to try that again, but in English?

    “I hope they ship your job overseas, then you can be an English scholar in China you ass hole!”: Okay, leaving your childish abuse aside, my job *is* overseas. I’m in Europe.

    My training is in micro-electronics and physics. That’s why I’ve been an Project Engineer and now a Project Manager for the last two decades in both small start-ups and large multinationals. I’ve dealt with all levels of people in both customers and suppliers, from VPs down to assembly line workers and all points in between. Let me say that if I received an email written with as poor a grasp of English as you exhibit here, I’d delete it as spam. I receive emails from colleagues from Asia, Europe and Russia who show a greater understanding of the English language than you do. Seriously, go back to High School, as you are embarrassing yourself.

  • Fernanda

    Easy girls… don’t pull your hairs.

    I agree with a thing: the suicides are not just a problem of this factory. It is a problem of all Chinese factories.

    While the world looks to China with $ $ in his eyes, things like that (and worst) will continue to happen.

    Is sad, but true.

  • Veronica M.

    Wow, Max. I am African American and I am a conservative and don’t care for Obama politics but it’s people like yourself that continues to bring down the conservatives for their fight for real issues due to your racist stereotypes. Get a clue. Your ignorance is costly!

  • Maxwell Genaw

    This is fun I enjoy messing with people! So serious :{

    Reply Fearless Fred
    Get a life and stop using thesaurus.com hi! hi!
    Big deal I have maintained networks for Fortune 500 companies, your credentials are laughable! Enjoy your European socialism, I pray you lose your job maybe you can eat my table scraps one day if I let you!

    Reply ben
    Do you live on this blog or do you have no life?

    Reply Veronica M.
    I say what I want its a free country! maybe you should tell your African American buddies not to blame or ask me for restitution due to slavery its been 200+ years ago and my family had nothing to do with it!

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Keep it coming I love it!

  • Fearless Fred

    Seriously, Maxwell, your attitude sucks. You lack any form of basic social skills, it seems.

    “Get a life”: I have a very fulfilling life, with a good job and loving family. How’s *your* life?

    “stop using thesaurus.com hi! hi!”: Nope, it’s called knowledge. I happen to know more than a few different words for similar things. You may want to consider going to Adult Ed and brushing up on your English. It seems to be lacking in word usage, punctuation, and basic sentence structure.

    You claim that my credentials are laughable, which is a joke coming from an ex IT support technician who runs a PC repair shop from their basement. Speak to me once you have 20 years of negotiating, designing, and implementing multi-million dollar infrastructure projects across three continents in markets such as the oil industry, Fibre-optics communications, Mobile Communications, Command and Control systems for Air Traffic Control.

    “Enjoy your European socialism”: Why are you so fixated on labeling people as being “Socialist” or Fascist”?

    “I pray you lose your job maybe you can eat my table scraps one day if I let you”: You will have a long time to wait for that, and they’ll be having a snowball fight in hell when it happens.

  • Maxwell Genaw

    I love it keep it coming!

    Reply Fearless Fred

    You have a fat mouth and no action, LOSER hi! hi! You make me laugh!

    I will be retiring at 30! its nice to have that kind of money and live good!

    Yeah 20 years of floppy drive experience? I do not operate my computer business from a basement, idiot. You don’t even know who I am so don’t lecture me on your background in computers. You probably need someone my age to show you how to “really” use the computer. Big deal I have maintained networks for Walmart corporate and the Social Security Administration and made millions!

    Keep working for peanuts buddy!

    Lets keep it going I like arguing with idiots!

  • Fearless Fred

    Oh, this is just classic. The boy tries to prove his worth, puffing out his chest without thinking of the consequences…..

    “Yeah 20 years of floppy drive experience?”: No, I mentioned I started in my career when Floppies really existed. Poor debating skills there, Maxwell. Trying to suggest that that’s all I’ve done is just embarrasses you by highlighting your lack of cognitive skills (Look it up. I’m sure you can ask your Mom for help in reading the long words….)

    “You don’t even know who I am so don’t lecture me on your background in computers.”: Well, you were kind enough to acknowledge earlier in this thread that you’re the same Maxwell Genaw as referenced in http://www.google.com/profiles/mpgenaw , so one minute of time online will show exactly who you are. As to how that negates (yes, I know, another long word for you to cope with. I hope you’re not having to read this out loud to work out what they mean) my experience, you’ve committed a typical defense error of trying to deflect investigation into your own failings through misdirection. You’ve been clear that you’re only 25, so the fact that others may have more knowledge or experience clearly scares you a lot.

    “You probably need someone my age to show you how to “really” use the computer.”: Priceless, truly priceless. An IT support technician trying to tell an experienced design engineer that he can’t use a computer. Oh, I’m wiping tears of laughter from my eyes as I type this…

    “Big deal I have maintained networks for Walmart corporate and the Social Security Administration” You *really* think that maintaining a network for Walmart is the same level of complexity as designing and implementing an ATC system, a system for deploying an intercontinental fibre-optic infrastructure? You need to get out of Michigan sometime and see the world outside. By the way, it’s interesting that you don’t reference either Walmart or Social Security on your website. Something you’re ashamed of, maybe?

    “Keep working for peanuts buddy”: Who says I’m working for peanuts? I have a job I love doing, it’s set me up for a comfortable life with my family, with a lifestyle that gives me what I want as well as the day to day challenges that I crave. It sounds like you’re more than a little jealous of the rest of us outside the Wolverine State..

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Fearless Fred

    Your funny! I like pissing you off! Jealous no way, my life is going good money, houses, cars and now my new yacht, I am so excited. I have been around the world buddy China, Russia and South America. Shows how small minded you are :) Alright working for table scraps then he! he! Most experienced engineers are washed up I don’t see you working for Apple designing the iPad, iPhone?

    I am sure Daddy and Mommy paid for all your college :) thats so sweet :) little boy in a man’s body still I see.

    Comfortable but not wealthy remember that!

    We can continue to argue if you like its kind of fun I get a kick out of stupid people.

    Your wiping the tears from your eyes because you want to take a ride on my new yacht and I said NO. hi! hi!

    Do you still want to eat my table scraps?

  • Maxwell Genaw

    I love it keep it coming, I can dish it!

  • http://ihbs.co.uk bennyappleboy

    Yes Genaw, I live on a digitized file, sitting on a server. You got me.

    Why the constant need to explain to everyone how much you’re worth, what you’ve done with your life, what you own, and a lot of other stuff people don’t care about? You might well be one of those classic examples of the people who compensate for what they don’t have over the internet.

    As for the ‘I love pissing people off’ style of social interaction, you keep forgetting that while you might be laughing wherever you are, you’re doing it alone. Its pretty lame to laugh at your own jokes.

    And one last thing, if you really were the owner of a large, successful company, its probably a very very bad idea to post replies such as yours on a public forum. I imagine shares in your company would plummet if your stock holders could only see who was running the company.

    Just something to think about while you conjure up another load of bull for us all to munch on.

    p.s. that picture of you in that google profile, you should probably get a haircut, some new glasses, a better tie and shirt combo, and sort out that kind of nerd-face thing you have going on, you’ve got the money for it…. haven’t you?

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Reply bennyappleboy

    Maybe I can wipe my ass with your paycheck. BITCH

    I sold my company a year ago I am starting up three other tech companies.

    Did you mean watching porn? – digitized

    I love to rub my money in your face there is your answer.

    No I am laughing with a couple of my friends and my hoe!

    Idiot my company was private not a publicly traded. Yeah let me pull my billion out of the bank, stupid ass.

    Personal look attacks, I am so offended, yeah right! are we three years old? I bet you look like Brad Pitt you perfect person you. I bet “I” could screw your girlfriend or wife if I wanted to hi! hi!

    Keep it coming I can dish it!

    Sweet, I love controversy!

    I don’t need to be social I have chosen to be this way. Why don’t you go and ass kiss your Boss your co-workers for the peanuts they pay you! I am laughing all the way to the BANK! OH YEAH!

  • Maxwell Genaw

    I want more! Come on is this all you got!

  • http://ihbs.co.uk ben

    Maybe I can wipe my ass with your paycheck. BITCH
    -
    What are you even talking about? Maybe you can’t, seeing as I live several thousand miles away, and i wont let you.

    I sold my company a year ago I am starting up three other tech companies.
    -
    Fantastic, good to hear, but still you’re the only person whos interested.

    Did you mean watching porn? – digitized
    -
    No, I meant a digital copy of a file. Not porn. Perhaps think through your comebacks a little better next time, they are definately slipping.

    I love to rub my money in your face there is your answer.
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    Again, good for you, but no one else is interested.

    No I am laughing with a couple of my friends and my hoe!
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    Theres 2 things wrong with this statement, A: you have a girlfriend and some friends, and are sitting on a computer insulting people you dont know on a public forum for kicks, I’ll let you interpret that as you like. and B: If your previous, and continuing social interaction is anything to go by, I’m surprised you have any friends at all, let alone a woman.

    Idiot my company was private not a publicly traded. Yeah let me pull my billion out of the bank, stupid ass.
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    And how was I to know its a private company? lucky you dont have anyone to offend with your racism and rude remarks. Oh wait…

    Personal look attacks, I am so offended, yeah right! are we three years old? I bet you look like Brad Pitt you perfect person you. I bet “I” could screw your girlfriend or wife if I wanted to hi! hi!
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    No. Well at least no on my part. I don’t know about you. I look nothing like Brad Pitt unfortunately, you can see what I look like on my website. I dont think you could ‘screw’ my girlfriend ( I’m not married) because A: she lives too far away from you and B: judging by your manners she wouldnt let you within 50 feet of her.

    Keep it coming I can dish it!
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    And each time you do, you look even more uneducated, narrow minded, and ill-mannered. Congratulations.

    Sweet, I love controversy!

    I don’t need to be social I have chosen to be this way. Why don’t you go and ass kiss your Boss your co-workers for the peanuts they pay you! I am laughing all the way to the BANK! OH YEAH!
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    You don’t need to interact with other people in a sociable manner? Did your money really get you everything you wanted? Because if it did (which I highly doubt it did) you’d be the first person in history.

  • porkchop1234

    HUGE FACE PLANT

    Maxwell you are by far the hugest imbecile I’ve ever had the misfortune of running across. I thank God that inbreds like you are a dying breed and will one day become extinct. You have all the intelligence and charisma of an amoeba. You are a lowly individual with no future to match your no brains. I’m completely done even bothering with you anymore. I consider you so low you’re not even worth commenting on anymore.

    P.S.
    Hey Maxwell you can look up the meaning of words like inbred, extinct, charisma, and amoeba on Google. I have no doubt in my mind these big complicated and correctly spelled words confuse you.

    @ ben, bennyappleboy, and fearless fred
    Don’t bother with the asshole. Everyone is born with an asshole so why even bother talking to Maxwell when you only have to bend over in front of a mirror to experience the same effect.

    @Veronica M
    Sorry you had to see this crap. Most users on here are far more intelligent then Maxwell so I hope you won’t lump us all in with the redneck inbred.

  • http://ihbs.co.uk ben

    @porkchop1234

    Lol. Yeah, Ive grown bored of trying to help him as well.

    It’s a shame, because apparently he can dish it!

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Reply
    ben
    porkchop1234

    Face transplant is this all you got? Uh oh we are in trouble now?

    Cowards lets see your real names? Like I said before most people have a fat mouth and no spine! My life is fulfilling I don’t sit around all day trying to find the meaning of life, and watch porn on my computer all day. I live life maybe I will see both of you in the streets begging for food? You know what I might throw you a piece of my bread crumb.

    Look up the word mongoloid on Google, your so smart you can look up words on Google did your Daddy and Mommy teach you this? Are they sitting next to you, holding your hand through this entire process? Maybe your Daddy is sucking you off as we speak? Wipe that cum from your face :)

    I have grown bored of people like you, small minded human, maybe your girlfriend and I get it on when your not around? I am the clit master!

    Coming on is the best you nerds got, come on I like your’e idiot rants and your’e dumb responses. I think a rock can come up with better comebacks than the shit your coming up with!

    You keep talking about social skills and how bad mine are I bet your’e a PHYCOLOGIST? and an English professor :) Idiot! Wake up and see the real world its not fucking ponies and rainbows.

  • http://ihbs.co.uk ben

    Jeepers you really do have issues dont you…

  • Fearless Fred

    Nice to see at least one small town has kept up the tradition of the town idiot…

  • Maxwell Genaw

    Reply

    Fearless Fred,
    ben,

    Thats it! Thats your comebacks! WOW is all that I need to say!

    Issues no, I have issues with you!
    Nice to see Fearless Fred has no spine and will not show his real name COWARD!

    As I said before! All talk no action! Maybe you should become a news anchor you are so knowledgeable :)

    Come on I have just started!

    Is this all you got!