Our FULL deep dive on the new MacBook Air, Mac Studio and iPad Air! (CultCast #691)
Mar 23, 2025
This week, Griffin’s reviews of the new iPad Air and MacBook Air, Erfon pores over Mac Studio benchmarks… and Lewis is here, too. Also: Siri’s NEW new management, more crazy folding iPhone technology, Apple’s two new displays in the works — and your listener voicemails! Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 19:02 Intro 28:01 Incogni 30:08 iPad Air & MacBook Air reviews 49:32 Mac Studio benchmarks 58:11 Squarespace 1:00:05 New new Siri leadership 1:14:45 New Apple displays 1:17:28 AirPods live translation 1:22:30 Speakpipe messages
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oh Jesus every time the nerves the nerve of
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that guy once again I disavow well I also disavow
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it uh whoever disavowed it dismbowed
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it you're the best Louis no one's better
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who whoever a disembowed it disembow it's like something like they would say in like the
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1800s you know it's like whoever like I'm going through these with my kids right now so whenever someone drops one
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they're like who did it I'm like whoever denied it supplied it like they've never heard these before ever you know so like
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when they hear them about kids they just die laughing they're like what is that now they just run around the house
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saying it so I'm trying to give them all the fart denial you know jokes that we used to use in like middle school i love
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it uh we got Steve Coburn I think we got
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Level Remix schooling's no good we got That's one of the few things I learned there we got Betty Reyes that and they
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used to serve these things called pronto pups which were like a hot dog and like
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a giant like bagel bun it's like the bagel bun was like like this it was like
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as big as a brick on a house thing was huge and uh a hot dog through a bagel so
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is it just like a ring on the side no no cuz it was it was like the same material as a bagel but Okay the the bun itself
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was like a whole like small loaf of bread it was almost like a small baguette but it was like this big but it
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was made of like bagel bread material i don't know what the difference is to bagel bread it's not bagel shaped that
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would be that would be interesting well it is it is bagel shaped it's like if you took a bagel and you put your hands
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on both sides and then you went Whoop you just stretch it out it's like a big long tube and you put a hot dog through
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the hole that's a chrono pup interesting i'm just imagining like a hot dog through a normal bagel and then you just
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have like a ring of condiments on the bagel that could be good and then Yeah
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you know a bagel-shaped hot dog that sits between the two bagel halves oh man i feel like
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if you warmed it up in some steam you could probably form it into that shape i know oh and then you could still have
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them like rolling on those like you know gas station rolling things but they'd just be rolling on end on the bagel yeah
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that sounds complicated i'm getting hungry for a bagel dog oh man they're so good so good uh okay
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should we do some um should we do some Apple news here
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claps what's that oh god I don't know are you even recording i don't even know
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what's going on we're doing this on a Friday i didn't even write one i didn't even bother i I see Griffin's taking
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full advantage of casual Friday what by wearing it you mean the same
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shirt that he wears every single day and I'm going to guess also to bed
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even in his house on a Friday casual Friday he just rips the sheets off his
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dress shoes are already on sleeps in the patent leather
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oh man dress shoes i'm not a monster i bet your shoes are shiny are your
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shoes shiny you showed them to a They're not shiny i I I live out in the middle
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of nowhere my My shoes are perpetually muddy okay i thought you were just always business business casual always
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just ready to go i've always got the black button-down shirt and the and the gray slacks but my shoes are a uh
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uni-use shoe that can fit any occasion they are see now that I knew that I knew the the LLBAN black leather slip-on
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shoes okay they you know nobody would bat an eye and if you wore them with a
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suit you know you just wash the mud off but Okay daytoday it's just a regular you know plain black shoe but they don't
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have laces no see I knew that right on instinctively I knew that and they kind
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of look dressy i mean if you can wear them with like a dress pant they must be somewhat dressy so they're like They are
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a They are a chameleon shoe uh what gives it away is that they're again they're always muddy because I Yeah cuz
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it's so the thing that makes them not fancy looking is the f is the fact that you wear them outside and you get them
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dirty but otherwise they actually could be considered like a waiter's shoe like if you showed up to a restaurant to serve and you had those shoes on they
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wouldn't say anything to you somehow I knew that i haven't watched any severance yet because my Apple TV Plus
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subscription expired yeah did not realize that llban made so
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many different kinds of shoes i didn't either i didn't even realize that llban was still around i I plan on uh I plan
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on switching from their black shoe to their brown shoe when I buy new shoes wow that's a that's a big departure
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okay they they sell New Balance shoes on their website this is very confusing oh
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really maybe I should check those out new Balance are my favorite shoes they're pretty much the only shoes I
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wear good they're probably more expensive at llban they sell hocas too when they sell a lot of stuff there i I
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get the llban catalog and you know Oh that's that's like my favorite day of the month just like browse through it for a
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while well the good news is that will never stop you cannot get them to stop sending those cataloges
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yeah once they send that to your address every owner of that house into perpetuity will always get that catalog
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that's it yeah just spreading the love yeah yeah i get a catalog from this company called Uline and it's like
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shipping materials and stuff you like those oh yeah they send them to me this catalog is like the phone book man it's
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like probably two inches thick i haven't ordered anything from Uline in five years maybe 10 years and they send it to
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every registered business every registered business receives one of those and man I I like browsing through like the industrial cabinets and like
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you know hazard containers they've got to be taking a loss on me as a customer that that catalog has got to cost them
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like five bucks to ship it's huge and I never order anything from it i haven't
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received one in a while maybe I should I'm sure they'd be happy order a box of paper clips get back on the list
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oh man how is our concurrent viewership going up i have no idea um okay
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everyone's talking about level remix oh man blow silo away betty Reyes don't know if I can possibly fathom that
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scenario season two of Silo the end of season two of Silo is one of my favorite
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show endings of like the last five years that's because you haven't watched the season finale of season two of Severance
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yet i watched that this morning that's what she's saying okay well that that's high praise now I I might have to fork
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over the 10 bucks might I might have to fork it over which I never do geez it's
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like 10 bucks man i know but I don't know i have so many other streaming services Lewis i've been going through
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the entire Have severance that's true but I watch shows that are not
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emotionally um challenging yeah that's pretty much
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exactly it like I I watch Curb Your Enthusiasm i've been going through that show and like that show you can watch it
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and hardly even pay attention to it because it doesn't do anything to you emotionally and it's not even that funny
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there's a there's a few scenes that are so awkward that you can barely that you could barely watch it and there are some things that are funny but man it's the
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elusive funny show there are no funny shows left all right should we go ahead and do this probably uh then I'm going
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to start the stream for the allnew X which I haven't even started yet so we should probably do that as
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well all right give us a tweet i don't have a tweet i told you I didn't write one well should I write one now in real
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time we We have the We have the Take you 15 minutes i mean come on all right i
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already have it written out in our show you do oh last I checked I didn't see it ghost written by AI it's only there it's
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only there every single week you did the description you can't just dump a description into the allnew X and expect
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anyone to click on it what why it's a good description you I know but you got to have a hook man i didn't spend 10
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years in marketing to not be able to write a two sentence summary of a podcast this is it the Colt
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Cast live you've been waiting [Laughter]
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for this week see you got to have a hook man that's it now now I'm going to dump
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your 10 years of marketing experience in in this blurb into into this should I do
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this in real time you guys want you guys want me to broadcast this let's see here no that's why we do it before we go live
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yeah but everyone here is just hanging out man it's Friday it's casual Friday it's casual
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Friday all right folks hold on here welcome to the liinal part of the podcast it's going to be cut out of the
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audio oh this should definitely be cut out uh let's see here but this is why people This is why hundreds of people
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think about coming to the live show but don't but then we have like a handful of people who actually show up um this week
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oh this is going to draw them in griffin's reviews of the new iPad Air and MacBook Air they're going to be like "Wait a second didn't we do that last
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week i thought they talked about this last week." Airfon pours over the Mac Studio benchmarks it's like a quick fly
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over and Lewis is here too i do like that part also let's do a
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carriage return carriage return lewis also series new management new new
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management apple's two new displays in the works and the next mindblowing AirPods Pro feature and your listener
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voicemails uh okay this is going to be it this is this is the big one if I do
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say so myself and we should say and the return of
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Elcani just to bring him in and then when we get to the end of the episode and everyone's like where where's Elanie
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i'll be like oop sorry didn't didn't work out this week and we'll just do that every single week that was like the premise of Jablinsky Games did you guys
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ever watch Jack Black's YouTube channel it was Jablinsky Games it was
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supposed to be a gaming channel and the thing is like he never actually gamed cuz he never got to it so like he did
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like years of content of him just like running around doing stuff and then he's like "Sorry guys no time for gaming this
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week." It's pretty good that's actually pretty funny i don't even know if he if he
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still does it but um it was just it was just him dancing around in a speedo from Smith was a
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vlogger oh dude i remember when he joined Tik Tok
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and I was like "This is it this is the end of Tik Tok." Now I was wrong but you you can't you can't astrourf
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that stuff man you either got to do it and have it be something that you really try to get into and not be afraid to
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like look uncool you You can't have a PR team do your TikTok channel I don't think people
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People smell it people smell a rat you know what I'm in St louis you're faking it what does that smell like you dirty
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rat where's that from that's a pretty good sniff sniff sound i swear you could be like a voice
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actor it's not something like you you could you have to imitate like complicated to
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be quite honest hey look not everyone's got it just because it just because it comes easy to you doesn't mean everyone can do that you could be like a rodent
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voice artist if anyone needs realistic rodent sounds like you're their guy i'll just record my walls in my house
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jeez i had some of that going on myself to be honest with you we caught your rats are making a comeback you caught
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one tie it up on a little chair put it in the middle of the room and say "See this is what happens you slice off an
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ear see you all see this this is what happens we caught him one house and that
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was a big fat juicy one he's been around a while we got him we got him got to
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make example of one of them yep and the other ones I I don't know if we had any more in the walls or if it was just him
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that was stuck but we never heard another rat again i think they all fled i've I've I've heard rats in my walls for most of like the last entire year
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and I've told my landlord about this repeatedly you'd You'd think he would care but he hasn't done a single thing
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like you're still paying rent right this is your house like you know that rats can do serious damage right they can
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they can f up like the the wiring they can start fires like they can they haven't they haven't breached the
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interior of the house yet i don't think as far as you know you you should probably set up a uh
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night vision camera put it in your bedroom at night or like infrared camera actually is going on yeah so you can see
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like the hot spots in the wall where they're all having their orgy
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and one night you're going to hear like a noise and the cracks going to form and they're all going to just come pouring out and you'll be like "They breached
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the hole." All right this show's going nowhere fast
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come on get the tweet we got to go all right all right this is it let me Let me Let me dump this one latest masterwork
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on us i think this first line is really going to grab him this is it the cult cast
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you've been waiting for i mean like that's it that's the one that's going to make them tune in are you ready i hope
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you're ready for this extra five or six people who join the live stream here it happens here it goes
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there you go Louis i forgot I was even working on that to be honest with you not really i couldn't tell when we went
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for 25 minutes before starting the show oh man i'll I'll vamp all day long what do you guys want to talk about i could probably do three hours on Pure Nothing
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this is like the Seinfeld like the mega Seinfeld episode we'll just talk about
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whatever we'll do like an hour of of Midwest goodbyes and the show will be
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over okay is that good Louis now we got
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someone uh Jeremy Edwards is here see I told you we'd get some with that tweet
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action and I'm about to go live on the all new X too that's going to bring them in well oh no they missed all of this
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magic i mean you know arguably the best part of the show okay should we go ahead
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and go live uh fantastic idea
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okay here we go oh Mrs
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d such exuberance list oh Mrs d
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we're ready to go live if you don't mind oh my dear I'll be watching every word
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from the comfort here in my budwoir with Eleni
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i don't even want to know what's going on there while they're watching the show and I wish you hadn't said that mrs t if you don't mind we're all grossed out we
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just want to go live and talk about this week's best Apple stories of which there are so many things to talk about i don't
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even know if I have time to do all this so let this let's get this thing rolling oh you know what holy moly holy cow i
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just realized um one sec oh geez i gotta I
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gotta bring this I gotta bring this last thing up lewis I start i
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uh hold on a second i forgot we got to bring up
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our sponsor notes didn't even put those in here
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can you believe that this is beyond casual Friday this is leaking into Saturday
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we don't happen to have a hard stop at like two o'clock i got to be I gota be done the show at 1:45
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no no no no let me go you edit it you can just put it in we can go a little bit you know slow-mo so it'll it'll seem
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like it's long enough i got to be done at at 126 what's the date today do we even
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know the 21st jeez oh my gosh what is going on with
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this show hold on these notes are all screwy hold on a
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sec there we go wow this is didn't expect this much uh dithering
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about okay Griffin did you watch this seance season
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finale i haven't had a chance to watch it yet i watched it just this morning
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did you although you just mentioned pretty good it's pretty good and that was the final episode mhm
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and so now you can just plow straight through it not have to wait every week what would you what would you rate the
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episode or the season on a scale of one to 10
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i give five star ratings so I would give it five stars okay so one to 10 that
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would be a 10 not necessarily you think it's a solid five i think so yeah oh my gosh really
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mhm well because on a on a five star scale uh if you scale it up then a five out of five could be either a nine out
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of 10 or a 10 out of 10 yeah that's true so you think it's a 10 out of 10 show
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um I don't like I I waffling 10 units is too granular so I'm not sure if it would
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be a nine out of 10 or a 10 out of 10 okay so it's a 9.5 out of 10
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i'd be comfortable it is a five out of five that's what I would say i mean that's that's pretty darn good that's
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pretty darn good some would say as good as it gets okay I think I'm ready sorry about that folks i uh in the midst of
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Now you can you can clarify uh perfect five out of five with with no wiggle room at all like this is as good as it
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can be but I would not say that yeah okay is it better than the leftovers
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oh stumped them i mean I think I like severance more than the leftovers but Okay wow that's
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now that's high praise because you seem to really like the leftovers
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i mean and he also likes leftovers it's like it's a you know the double on tand if you will mhm how many melons are in
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leftovers they don't have a single melon party and how many goats
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uh are there are there goat i feel like there's I feel like there's at least one goat
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well there's probably a goat i think that the leftovers might be the goat how about that finger traps can I finger
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traps i don't think so all right all right it also doesn't have as many old computers
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which is definitely a point of Well that's definitely a negative in Griffin's book okay let's let's go ahead
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and and do this now h how is our concurrence going up i have no idea but we'll have to dig into that afterwards
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all right here we go in three two hello and welcome to the Hookass
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Fast 30 plus spin out conversation you're going to hear all week long I'm your host Jeff
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Les join me today where is he there he goes inspired by the Apple
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show severance he's been researching brain chips that could significantly increase typing speeds and cult writers
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while also reprogram reprogramming their dreams of escape he's imaginative Pokemon Lewis Walls is here got a drill
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Oh it's awesome self installation also with us on the weekends you'll find him scouring the dumpsters of corporate
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buildings searching for old Apple gadgets like Ray at the start of that Star Wars movie that no one can remember
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the title of The Force Awakens he's the He's the writer for Cult the Max yeah I told you it griffin Jones is here
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good evening how are you dude i'm I'm doing okay we're going to start with uh the
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the Griffin question of the day oh okay no we don't have to usually you have something lined up for me but today
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today it seems like maybe I'm excited to keep it simple how are How are How are How are How are How are How are How are How are How are How are you casual Friday thanks i'm doing Lis how are you doing Liz just great it's It's great to
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be recording a podcast on a casual Friday yeah you're looking awful casual
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actually i would say you're the only one feel slightly relaxed you know Griffin
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and I both have collars and you're just you know decided to go caller free it's Friday free today yeah you're color free
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every other day of the week if you do the podcast you are often color free and color free i'm
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like I swear I'm gonna I I thought about yesterday going outside and getting some sun but you know then next thing you
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know it's too late oh yeah well San Francisco is a lot like Seattle isn't it it's like from moment to moment you just
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don't know what you're going to get well also I just didn't leave the house oh well that also doesn't help your cuss
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all right look it's Friday our apologies it's all my fault i accept full
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responsibility and all consequences uh brought about for the delay in the show
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i had a scheduling conflict conflict yesterday could not do his show yesterday but thankfully um we were able
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to make it happen today and this is Griffin's day off he's still here that's how dedicated he is he's like I'm not
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plugging away all last weekend yeah yeah you know Yeah cranking out reviews and
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then tries to take Friday off to try to get a regain a little bit of personal time no I couldn't even last 24 hours i
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was working yesterday too he He was like I'm going to take the whole day off and just sit in my Vision
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Pro for the entire day and not have to take it off for an hour and a half to do the show but not possible today so we're
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grateful to have Griffin here we got a lot of stuff to talk about here this week oh my goodness we got Griffin's
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hands-on iPad Air review now this is different than last week i would I would classify this as like my one week with
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the iPad Air i mean last week was my first impressions i only had it for like barely a day okay okay i'll make sure
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I'll make sure not to like say repeat anything that I said in last episode so it's still worth listening to well I'm
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going to do a transcript of last week and this week and then put those into some kind of AI engine and compare so
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we'll let you know if you repeated anything we've also got Griffin's review with one week with the new MacBook Air
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um I'm going to talk about the allnew Mac Studio i touched on this a little bit last week i've been pouring over the
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different benchmarks god this is such a confusing machine I have to say but I
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think there are some takeaways that are very clear so I'll do like a TLDDR flyover for those of you curious about
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you know the state of the new Mac Studio um and if you're thinking about getting one I definitely have opinions on that
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lewis is going to talk about how Siri might be finally taking a turn for the better look at him his face is filled
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with hope his countenance excited and hopeful yeah I can tell and we'll tell
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you about the shakeup happening at Apple and it looks like Apple has some new
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stuff in the works some new monitors which we'll see if this is true this
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comes from um Apple professional journalist Flark Sherman and so I think
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it might actually happen this is uh display rumors and then we almost cut
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the story i said "No I don't think so this might be the most interesting story in this entire
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wasteland of pointless Apple." No I'm just jo uh uh of um exceptional Apple
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stories that happen in a week where Apple's not releasing any new products and we'll talk about uh how your AirPods
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might be getting transformed and then we're going to wrap up with your voicemails if you listened to
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the show last week you can leave us a voicemail speakpipe.com/culttcast and we've got
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some that we might want to play on the show in fact I'm going to start with one right now right now you ready this one comes from John that's
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all I know about him this was his entire message are you ready to hear it i hope that you're ready
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hello oh
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I don't john you should re-record that when you finish that message and become
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a ghost story what was that the entirety of the message that was it that's all he sent us i'm blocking his IP address
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don't worry it's like a It's like a message sent you
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know to a spacecraft that's out on the edge of the solar system or something it did sound rather like a death rattle
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didn't it we might have just heard John's last word you want it again yeah all right
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now I just have bear for it i mean look my apologies this is an abomination here we go
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hello he's got to work on that man thank you
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for that John you need to sip some ginger water to get that flim out of there yeah we should uh another PSA for
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our listeners there's the also the system where you can send us a text i feel like I should let everybody know uh
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we don't have the ability to text you back no we don't so we can receive and read all your text messages but uh our only vessel for responding is talking
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about it on the show that's true so if you'd like to have a conversation with us you know we're on social medias could
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Couldn't you send a postcard or something i'm not giving away my address are you although we did consider a new
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feature that would be part possibly of the cult club and that is if you fork
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over enough money I will give you all of Lewis Wallace's contact information his address his phone number you can text
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him you can go to his house i mean you'll have his address think how much fun that would be now I do think
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he's packing some heat you're You're welcome especially if you have some handyman skills like I could
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use the entire house painted there's some rotten wood out in the front that could be replaced if you you know kind
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of carpenter skills yeah okay what were you going to say Griffin before we move on here
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i don't remember it's must not have been important all right well let me give a very hearty thank you
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before we get started here uh to incogn for supporting this episode and uh let
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colac YouTube channel if you want to watch them live we This is such a great comment from I got this from multiple
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people people who texted us by the way um we go live typically at 12:30 Pacific
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time on Thursday now that's not I wouldn't say it's spoton um you know
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this is not a train in Germany we're talking about and we we we might be a little bit late sometimes but typically
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I think we're about 12:30 um trains in Germany are notorious for being late all the time are they i thought the train
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That's actually a pretty apt metaphor yeah maybe it is this is not a train in Japan there you go there you go okay that might be better um and you can go
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live.cult let me try this this may not even work it's on the Cultamac YouTube channel so you can always um Oh my gosh
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yeah that works live.cast.com i can't believe that actually works i set that up forever ago
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um and that will load the latest episode there so just go to
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speak about incogn here because I've been using incogn i think you might too and if
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you're wondering what incogn is well they allow you to take back your
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personal data with incogn do I have this loaded please let's see if this
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with this first story griffin's going to tell us all about his experience with
30:38
the iPad Air his first week with the iPad Air take it away Griffin so let me start this off by saying that
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a few weeks ago I made it clear that my plan was to buy the iPad Air and the MacBook Air with my Apple card and
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return them at the end of the two weeks just for the review uhhuh however what I
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didn't say is that it's very fortunate that Apple released both of these
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products simultaneously so I can review them simultaneously because I have actually been thinking about keeping one
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of them oh okay so I've I've been thinking like you know there might be room in my life for a fourth device i
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have my Mac Mini my Division Pro my iPhone I guess the Apple Watch too but I don't really count that as being a
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primary device and they they cover all my bases very well except for one i
31:28
don't travel a lot but I have been thinking well if I were invited to WWDC
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which Apple should do what computer would I bring i can't bring my Mac Mini with me i don't want to be the doofus in
31:40
the audience with a vision pro and I wouldn't actually be able to do a lot of work because I would only get two hours of battery life anyways uh like what
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would I do if I were invited to WWDC i don't know so I've been thinking maybe
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I'll keep one of these devices and so the reason both of the reviews for these products are mostly centered around how
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much of my regular work I can do on them is because I've been assessing that as
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you know a crux plot twist not just for the review but also you know will I can
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I actually do these things so I've spent a full week I'll I'll reveal what I
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bought at the end of this segment i think I know what you did okay so let's
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start with the iPad Air because that was uh the most interesting to me because the iPad Air has the unique capability
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of you know not just being a computer but also a tablet like I don't have any other method of like drawing with the
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digital pen or anything like that for the art that I might want to do in my free time um I have a few notes that I
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picked up over spending a week with both of these devices different from like my first impressions last week uh to
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clarify I got the base model 128 gigabytes of storage it comes with eight gigs of RAM that you can't configure the
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Magic Keyboard and the USBC Apple Pencil the Magic Keyboard I really enjoyed i
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actually think the Magic Keyboard on the iPad is better than the keyboard that comes on the MacBook Air because the
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keys on the Magic Keyboard although they're a little smaller they have more of a gap between each key so you can
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feel the difference between them and they actually have more key travel which I was both of which I was very surprised
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by so I have I have much more uh enjoyable typing on the iPad Air i find
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myself like making a lot of extra typos on the MacBook Air because the keys are just like so perfectly flat you can't really feel the gutter between them so
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your fingers get misaligned as you type on it i I felt sloppy key on the Magic Keyboard
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what's that no sorry go ahead just reiterating your point um when you don't have the Magic
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Keyboard attached and you just want to do like a little bit of writing on the iPad itself as a tablet uh I know that
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you can also use the Apple Pencil for that anywhere you can input text you can use the Apple Pencil as well and that
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was mostly okay except in the one place where it really matters on the Cult of
33:59
Mac website through WordPress all of these web apps they absolutely fall
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apart when you try to use the Apple Pencil as input like they break like you're it the the palm rejection doesn't
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work as well you're constantly like throwing errors like cursor throws itself in the wrong place complicated
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web apps like WordPress Google Drive Notion they they just fumble apart
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immediately if you try to use the Apple Pencil as text input if you're using the web app um you have more success if
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you're using a third party app uh because Apple's APIs for text input are much better than that um WebKit not so
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much another thing surprised me about the Apple Pencil i got the I got the entry level Apple Pencil with USBC with
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like charging not not the Apple Pencil Pro and the Apple Pencil with USBC has
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one advantage over the Apple Pencil Pro oh tell and that is the slide out cap
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that covers and hides the USB port it is so much fun to fiddle with and fidget
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with it slides in and out like perfectly magnetically it has a very satisfying snap when you close it it's a lot of fun
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i'm just looking at the picture and I can tell you've been fiddling with it cuz that area looks like 185 times more
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dirty than the rest of the pencil you can literally see your finger grime on that area of the Apple Pencil it's like
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all shiny and like stainless steel like chrome on the inside and not anymore it's all smudgy with my fingerprints because it's so much fun
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um stage manager i expressed last week on the show that I find myself
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preferring split view over stage manager because split view fills the entire screen stage manager like you can have
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more windows on screen at once but it's not too useful because you can only see when you have you can't you can put four
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windows on the screen at once but like you can only see like a fraction of them it feels kind of fidgety and complicated
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i found out that you get the best of both worlds when you plug it into an external display i didn't know this but you can have split view on the built-in
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display while you have stage manager on the external display oh that's cool yeah
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I didn't know that but uh with that never tried it yeah yeah i uh I plugged it into a um a Ben Q display that I had
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outside like near my kitchen it's It was a lot of fun um Logic Pro and Final Cut
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Pro this is where it gets a little interesting um obviously I wasn't able to record the podcast last week on the
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iPad because iPad OS still doesn't let you have multiple microphone inputs at once but I was able to edit last week's
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show and surprisingly it was pretty easy i had to change like a few settings on
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my template on my Mac and then send it over to my iPad and getting our like you
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know multi- gigabyte large files on there was a little it took a little bit of setup yep
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but once I started editing it was surprisingly pretty breezy uh you know I
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had to learn the new interface and all that but it's it's pretty neat like you can just it supports the Apple Pencil hover so you just like double tap and
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you can do the splits and all that stuff uh and again I still doing the splits
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you know you can do the splits he's been working on them forever with a tablet in your hand
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all the way to the floor anyways I wasn't I and again I wasn't able to finish it on the iPad because I
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still needed to uh export the chapter markers and do an extra like balancing on the Mac and not logical on the iPad
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i was able to do more of it than I expected I was able to i was I wasn't sure that I would be able to do it at all um but that that's a promising start
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uh Final Cut Pro I had less success with because you can't just directly open a
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Final Cut library that was created on your Mac on the iPad but there is this third party tool that exists called I
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think transfer Toolbox oh my gosh uhhuh and I got it to work but then I opened
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so like I I took one of my existing YouTube videos ran it through Transfer Toolbox got a Logic Pro for iPad file
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out of it moved it to my iPad consolidated all the media so I didn't have to you know worry about that opened
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it on my iPad and eventually I got like a full timeline open on the iPad uh and
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then I started like replacing the titles and doing a little just fidgeting around i wasn't sure what I was going to do but
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you know just seeing how it worked and then it crashed and then I tried to open it again and it crashed again so I
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cannot do video editing on the iPad it turns out man that's mind-blowing man i I I I'm surprised that it wasn't more
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streamlined i mean you have to pay a monthly fee for Yeah for Final Cut Pro
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but I think from a process perspective they designed Logic and Final Cut Pro to
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be apps that you use where you record the video on the actual device like if you need to that this is what I mean
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like if you want to do any actual real work you you can't really do it because you can't use professional cameras
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easily you can't get the content onto your iPad easily it's a compromised experience it's like it's really just a
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maybe a more pro version of Cap Cut which I don't even know if that's true because Cap Cut's so good i I did try
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that apple has a Final Cut camera and I haven't been able to use the multicam
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live recording feature i tried that out um and I was able to pull out of the
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drawer an idea that I've been sitting on for like maybe 10 years now and that I wanted to set up a chess match between
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two computers in my old collection an iBook G3 versus like a DOS PC each
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running chess and then what I would do is I would I would just start the match on one computer and I take its moves and
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I input them on the other one and go back and forth and I recorded that using uh two different iPhones
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uh all recording live onto the iPad and then it just creates like a multi-cam recording that you can start editing in
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Final Cut on the iPad and uh that worked so I I just tested to confirm that worked poked around in Final Cut a
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little bit you know you can you can get a little proper video out of that but um a 10-year dream come true yeah that's
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Yeah I can't wait i hope you post that on the site uh well I I probably won't because uh
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the chess match itself ended in a rather um anticlimactic draw so okay well I I'm
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I'm still I might reuse that idea i I might I'm not putting it to rest yet anyways one more thing about the iPad
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the battery life was surprisingly mediocre wow i I can't imagine like draining my
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MacBook 100 to zero in a single day but yeah I was kind of surprised how fast the iPad drained i feel that same way
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about my iPad Pro it's like I thought iPads iPads seem like they should have much better battery life and what's even
40:41
more confusing is the 13-inch iPad Pro the battery life is the same as the 11 in it's like how is that possible it's
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the same performance it's the same you know silicon inside why isn't the
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battery life much better it's very confusing when I thought about it like the MacBook Air I looked up the numbers
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has twice as big of a battery as the iPad so that makes sense but I was thinking well the iPad is so much bigger than my iPhone why is it not better than
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my iPhone yeah has a bigger display but I don't know okay anyways those are my
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thoughts on the iPad you can find my full review on the site and I also recommend watching the YouTube video you
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can see more of that in action love remix from the chat just real quick says he uses his iPad as a sidecar while
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editing video before I got the display that's interesting i you know I have almost never used sidecar and I've heard
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people use it for this use case and and I actually might try this like do you feel like the lag is a problem or is it
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pretty real time when you're trying to like watch videos and pause and you know and pause and start the video and stuff
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cuz I'm imagining like you have like the actual video itself on the iPad so that you can watch it in a larger display
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which is something that I never think to do and now that I have like the 14-inch MacBook Pro I'm like actually that would be pretty useful I feel like I haven't
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tried using Sidecar but that's something I want to I want to try out yeah all right all right on
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to the M4 MacBook Air the one that you probably decide to keep
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well I'm not giving anything away yet i again got the base model 256 gigs of storage 16 gigs of memory the 10 core
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CPU the 8 core GPU um here's what surprised me about the MacBook Air so
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Apple has been redoing their keyboards recently I think like starting with the the new iMac or whatever and I know
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they've changed up the function keys but I wasn't exactly sure what they did i didn't know that they took the keyboard
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backlight control keys dude off of the function row yes so not a terrible
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decision f5 and F6 it's just like dictation and I think do not disturb
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it's like you you go to hit like you know the number seven or the number six your finger slips suddenly you have do
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not disturb turned on and you don't even know why you're not getting your notifications like why would he have a
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single do not disturb like a do not disturb key i don't know that I don't know that my M4 Max MacBook Pro has a do
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not disturb key i need to go back and look at the keyboard i'm gonna look this up while you're talking about it should be F7 but like Yeah like Okay here's the
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other thing i restored my MacBook Air from the backup the time machine backup of my Mac Mini which means that when I
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set up my MacBook Air not only did I not have the keyboard brightness controls as the function keys I couldn't change it
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at all because my Mac Mini obviously doesn't have the keyboard brightness in control center or in the menu bar so it
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wasn't there on my MacBook Air so I was like how how do I change this thing i had to dig into system settings to add it in like turn it back on you can add
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it to control settings I think can't you you can you can but uh even though it's a laptop it didn't have it there by
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default because I restored from the backup of my Mac Mini okay yep yep i which is just perplexing yeah i don't
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know or they have mission control as a button i'm like dude really oh you're right they do have do not disturb as one
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of the buttons i uh I just bring this up i I I didn't even I didn't even realize
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that so I know they they probably do it because they want to have the same keyboard design everywhere like they
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want it to match the keyboard on the iMac and you know the iMac doesn't have a backlit keyboard so they can't have
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those controls there but like I don't know I feel like it's more important than having a dictation button and dude
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they have a Siri button is that Siri no that's a dictation button oh that's dict No but next to the dictation I guess
44:22
that's a search button so brings up spotlight like why would you why think the keyboard shortcuts
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should be things that you need to access the most frequently Right i imagine a lot of people don't know that command
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space does Spotlight and so they have that button there instead that that I can understand okay maybe maybe I could
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go along with you on that one but like the dictation thing like who's actually using dictation i would I would guess a
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very small percentage of people that use it voice is the back keyboard everybody yes everybody uses it it's like one of
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those things that you use all the time and and the do not disturb button why do you need a button for do not do not
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disturb that is something that could live in control center cuz most people probably never even use it i I would
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venture a guess this is a complete guess that less than 5% of people actually use do not
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disturb in any a lot of people do use it accidentally because again it's just a button and you don't have to like hold
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it down to activate it just tap it once and suddenly you're not getting any notifications and you don't even realize that's happened yeah that's true and
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like if you need to use it you definitely don't need to use as often as you need to adjust the keyboard brightness dude and I just Yeah they
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need to hire me as a product or product manager i'll set them straight man this is crazy
45:36
uh another thing the colors as I mentioned sky blue isn't very blue uh but I did come up with a better metaphor
45:43
for describing the color to people who haven't seen one in person you know when you go to a fast food restaurant and you
45:49
go to get a cup of water but the uh the fountain drink dispenser stick with me
45:54
on this doesn't have like a a bespoke like water dispenser yeah so it just has
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like the combined water lemonade one i use that one all the time you go to press the water lever but then it gives
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you like a single spurt of lemonade at the beginning so then your cup of water has like a little bit of lemon in it
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that's about how blue it is okay mine actually is um they mix it with Pepsi so
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it's like barely brown which who knows maybe is Apple's next color maybe maybe isn't that uh
46:24
Isn't that desert titanium touche yeah they need to go full brown like the zoom brown in fact that's what
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they should name it um the display the display is only 500 nits so I was
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curious how well it would do outdoors but uh luckily it happened to be like a full sunny day the day I was testing
46:42
this pretty rare in Ohio but you know the stars aligned and um I did a pretty
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significant portion of my review uh sitting on my back deck in broad daylight the display it's kind of hard
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to photograph because again if you're like taking a picture of the screen outside the screen's going to be so much
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dimmer than like the rest of the image but uh in person you definitely can read
47:03
the display sitting outside and I know that was something that that bothered me a lot when I was in college like you
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know sitting there with my crummy 2008 MacBook Pro that's probably only like
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150 nits there's no chance unless you find like a big shady tree but um yeah perfectly
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bright uh so those are my thoughts and again I was able to do all my work on the MacBook Air like no problem i work
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on Mac OS on my Mac Mini obviously on the same on my MacBook Air so it can video edit it can it doesn't even break
47:31
a sweat like I exported it a video and I think it was even faster on the Mac Mac Mini i think it was even faster
47:38
exporting a video on the MacBook Air than my Mac Mini like Well you're definitely keeping the iPad because you
47:43
love your Mac Mini so the the Air is redundant for you isn't it here's the
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verdict okay i prefer the iPad Air
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because I the the MacBook Air in my opinion is just like my Mac Mini but uh
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more expensive and a little worse because it doesn't have as much RAM or storage space um the iPad Air has the
48:07
unique capability of being a a drawing tablet which I like and I and I'm drawn to the weird things so I kind of like
48:13
how the iPad Air is kind of a weird laptop but also a tablet and all that yeah however it still fails to fulfill
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the purpose of uh what I actually need it for which is hypothetically recording
48:27
a podcast in Certino um Okay so I'm actually returning both
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of them however it lined up with a different purchase
48:38
that came from the Jones household oh i have been fielding complaints about
48:43
another technology in my house uh and so I have made a large purchase that I will reveal next week oh what a tease okay I
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can't think of what that might be nothing comes to mind people are
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complaining so Roomba I think it might be a microphone
49:04
microphone about my audio levels i mean if people are complaining what could they be what
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could they be complaining about i can't think of anything anyways uh check out my reviews on Cult of Mac or on the
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YouTube channel i I think they're pretty good videos so go give those a watch all
49:21
righty cool well thanks for that uh firsthand accounting of the new MacBook Air and the iPad Air i don't want to
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talk too long about this but I've been pouring over the M3 Ultra Mac Studio
49:36
well just the Mac Studio in general first of all let me just say nobody cares about the Mac Studio i am shocked
49:44
how poorly the videos that I've seen are doing on YouTube like abysmal views it's
49:51
like nobody cares about the Mac Studio at all suddenly and and I and I don't mean that um actually nobody cares i
49:58
mean I think that the general interest in Mac Studio was was definitely a lot
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higher in previous versions and like for this one it seems like completely
50:10
toppled off a cliff and and I know that that people who are really into having a powerhouse Mac are still interested but
50:16
I'm just surprised how poorly these reviews are doing um just from a numbers
50:22
perspective so I'm not going to dive into every nook and cranny of all the different benchmarks because I I just
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find like you all find that boring i think the interesting story about the Mac Studio is this it is a weird machine
50:37
because of Apple's decision to use the M4 Max as the base configuration and
50:44
then the M3 Max as the M3 Ultra Ultra well it's but it's using the M3
50:50
generation chips i mean and I said this last week and it's it's proven to be
50:57
true the M4 Max is such a powerhouse and it's so much better than the M3
51:02
architecture because the leap from M3 to M4 was a gigantic leap it was bigger
51:07
than you might think and and so I think in previous Mac Studios the difference
51:13
between the Ultra and the um Max performance was probably a lot wider and
51:20
that performance gap has been severely narrowed because M4 is so good and M3 is
51:26
so old so like you get the M3 Ultra and really the only places where it
51:31
outperforms the M4 is in scenarios where you really need all the cores and all
51:37
the cores are taken advantage of from a GPU and a CPU perspective well that's
51:43
not most things so like if you need an M3 Ultra you know that you need it and I
51:50
know that's cliche because people have said that in the past and I think in the past that's probably not true because you would get so much better gains just
51:55
across the board but that's not true anymore from what I've seen if you're
52:00
not doing something extremely resource intensive where the M4 Max is struggling
52:06
to keep up then the M3 Ultra in many respects is actually going to be worse
52:11
for you because it has slower um single core performance and so if you're not
52:18
taking advantage of all the different cores then your performance is actually worse and you're paying a lot more for
52:24
that worse performance so unless you're doing something where you need to have you know four ProRes video
52:31
encoders or something that is absolutely maxing out your GPU and CPU cores and
52:37
from what I've seen there are not a lot of apps that do that so if it were up to
52:42
me if I were going to be pling down my money I wouldn't even consider the M3 Ultra in this generation because of like
52:48
the bizarre choice to go with the older architecture for the Ultra version of the chip i don't know what happened in
52:54
that story it's kind of interesting because Apple based the M3 what is it m3 Ultra on you know the
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M3 Max chip but they didn't really just like take the existing M3 Max and turned
53:09
it into an Ultra they did much more than that because the M3 Max if they had just doubled the M3 Max it wouldn't be able
53:15
to have 512 GB of storage and it wouldn't have Thunderbolt 5 so they did and a lot of people said when the M3 Max
53:21
came out oh you know this doesn't look like it has the uh interposer stuff at
53:27
the bottom of it so they can't make an Ultra out of this so it's it's they've
53:32
definitely done like a lot of work to the M3 Max to turn it into the M3 Ultra much more you know than just like
53:39
doubling it they've done a lot of custom work on this to make this computer and that's probably why it took so long
53:46
maybe and maybe it took them a lot longer than they thought it was going to take and so by the time they actually
53:51
completed it like the M4 generation chips were already out i don't know what the story is i also heard that um on
53:56
background when Apple was giving the brief rings to this to like John Gerber and Jason Snell uh like that Apple not
54:03
so subtly insinuated that it took a long time for it to be like certified as a Thunderbolt 5 device and that also
54:10
contributed to its delays because you know the M3 Max wasn't Thunderbolt 5
54:15
capable but they had to certify this one because they added Thunderbolt 5 to it interesting okay that's good intel so
54:22
who knows what happened but the pairing of the M3 with the M4 generation or competing with with or having those two
54:30
competing chips in the same machine I think it's very strange and it just reduces the gap in
54:36
performance between the M4 Max and and and why spend the extra money if you don't need to unless you have a real pro
54:44
need like you need to have 512 GB of RAM which you know if you're doing anything
54:50
with you know machine learning like that might be a need for you but outside of
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like those really serious prolevel actual prolevel not like guys like me who buy the M3 Max and only utilize 5%
55:02
of its performance wait you're saying that you don't need an M3 Max to release one YouTube video every 3 years well no
55:08
for YouTube I do because I don't know that it's possible to create a YouTube video without an M4 Max chip you it it
55:15
would literally take you so long to export a three minute video that by the time it came out the video would would
55:20
be too old for anyone to watch so I think that might be the one use case that and like you know if you're doing
55:26
physics calculations if you're doing some kind of like 12K timeline for a professional
55:33
cinematic you know endeavor that you're working on um I do have a I do have one more thing to say about the the Mac
55:39
Studio do you remember when the M3 MacBook Air came out like last year and
55:45
all of us like collectively rolled our eyes when Apple tried to describe it as like "Oh this is the best laptop for AI
55:51
because it has a web browser and you can use AI on the web." That's hilarious apple actually did create the best
55:58
computer for AI completely by accident just because the Apple silicon
56:03
architecture happens to have unified memory and this is the cheapest way to get 512 gigabytes of like you know
56:09
memory for your GPU they did it accidentally and they aren't advertising it they didn't think they did it really
56:16
oh yeah i mean they designed the Apple silicon architecture like probably starting 10 years ago or more before you
56:22
know running LLMs locally on your machine was even a thing they considered especially Apple because they didn't see
56:27
this whole thing coming yeah they accidentally made the best AI computer in the world for real this time and
56:33
they're not like they should be you know shoving it down everybody's throats saying that like this is the best
56:38
computer this actually is the best computer for AI yeah and you know we got Betty Reyes from the chat saying "I need
56:44
the ultra chip for Revit i've never heard of that and rendering yeah so like anything where the computer is actually
56:51
saving you time and you know as Lewis Wallace likes to say time is money he yells that at the cult writers all the
56:58
time and uh if you can if it can save you time then then it's actually worth it but for I think a lot of people who
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think that they need the Ultra would never actually see any benefit from from the Ultra because they're not going to
57:11
get anywhere close to t to to taxing any of the hardware in any way shape or form
57:17
right so they're they're literally just paying for all that extra you know hardware for for no good reason anyway
57:22
go watch a bunch of YouTube reviews i mean they're they're they're all over the place and everyone has kind of the
57:29
exact same conclusion that I've seen um and you know you don't have to uh depend on anyone else's conclusions everyone
57:35
always shows you their benchmarks and you can just look at them and it's like dude where is the gains where are the gains none of the gains there's so many
57:43
benchmarks that I've seen where the Ultra performs worse than the M4 Max and a few scenarios where it performs a lot
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Lewis Wallace talking about Siri Lewis yeah it's that time it's that time
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let's do it it's time for Louis talk about Siri his favorite topic yeah this
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big shakeup in Siri Town very exciting uh Apple reportedly put Mike Rockwell in charge of upgrading Siri with artificial
1:01:37
intelligence this is what we've been promised for what seems like decades now i guess it's only not quite a year but
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uh anyway uh it's a process that's critical to Apple's future this report
1:01:49
of course comes from you won't believe it Bloomberg reporter Mark German never heard of him is he related to shark
1:01:57
foreman he's he's had some big scoops on this story in in the past week um and uh
1:02:02
the latest thing he put out I think was uh he just put on X you know basically
1:02:07
Apple just wrapped up an internal meeting with the AI division announcing these big changes i'm told i love it
1:02:13
when he says I'm told by TC he says uh quote "It included Craig Federigi Mike
1:02:20
Rockwell John G andrea Robbie Walker and Kim Vorath they didn't ask questions but
1:02:26
all seemed very positive about the moves uh anyway you know obviously they're
1:02:32
trying to uh get this project back on track you know they promised at WWDC
1:02:38
last year oh Siri's going to be so much better it's going to work in all these different ways it's going to work across
1:02:43
your apps it's it's amazing ai is going to make it amazing it's it's going to be the Siri that you've you know wished
1:02:49
forever that we had right uh let's see when was it i guess about a
1:02:56
week ago or so apple uh or maybe two I can't even remember now it's all blurry together but Apple actually admitted hey
1:03:02
this is delayed you know after rumors after rumor you know after it didn't show up in various versions of iOS Apple
1:03:08
finally comes out and says hey guess what and then after that that's when when German had this like maybe the most
1:03:14
amazing scoop he had this basically almost like he had a transcription of a a Apple meeting where people were you
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know the the guy who who was ostensibly in running the show uh on Siri although
1:03:27
I don't know i heard some weird like oh he wasn't really in charge of Siri whatever but his name was Rob Robbie Walker right who was uh he was quoted in
1:03:34
this thing he's leading this meeting and and it basically sounded like a almost like a group hug like "Oh you're all doing really great job and you just keep
1:03:42
doing a great job." But listen to that mocking tone unbelievable did you read that story it was filled with quotes it
1:03:48
was it was all like it was all like "Oh you know keep I know it's depressing and it's ugly how horrible it sounds." And
1:03:55
because you know Apple's been getting kicked left and right by you know people like uh Gruber at Daring Fireball and
1:04:01
basically anybody who uses Siri they're getting kicked by about the fact that they promised something they are not
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even close to delivering they even put out ads that were completely misleading which man marketing department got ahead
1:04:14
of the skis on that one holy moly uh that that report from German was was
1:04:20
like shocking like how how much they he had from that meeting anyway um so then
1:04:28
this this latest thing is oh they're putting Mike Rockwell in charge this is he supposedly got this job because you
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know he uh led the creation and launch of something you might have heard of called the Apple Vision Pro giant success i
1:04:41
mean technical success okay maybe not it is good hardware i believe I believe he was like mostly in charge of the hardware stuff i know everybody who's
1:04:48
reviewed the Vision Pro has said like "Yeah this hardware is incredible it just cost $4,000."
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And if only there was a Metallica video wait there is one have you watched that yet by the way i have watched the
1:04:59
Metallica video is it awesome uh if you like Metallica but I don't like Metallica so it's not a moving
1:05:06
experience if you don't i was impressed by the the you know the fact they're watching like this thing in immersive VR
1:05:11
but then I was also just like making a mental list of all the people who I would rather be watching instead and I
1:05:17
post that to Mastadon if you're curious fair enough uh let's see um yeah so uh
1:05:23
Rockwell this is this is uh once again German quote Rockwell hasn't been shy about criticizing Syria according to
1:05:29
people familiar with the matter for years he has pitched senior vice presidents on ideas for over overhauling
1:05:35
the voice assistant to make it more personalized well who hasn't been anybody who's used it ha if you're being
1:05:40
truthful you have to say "Hey this is garbage." And by the way where's the one you promised nine months ago uh so and
1:05:47
this is what I This sounds really kind of sneaky and and very very Tim Cookie
1:05:54
uh two people from Rockwell's team Kim Vorath which we reported on this a while ago and Amy Nent previously got
1:06:01
reassigned to work on the Syria upgrade so basically they send in these two spies very close to this guy Rockwell
1:06:06
send them in there to work and and like get the lay of the land and then
1:06:12
eventually they put this guy in here uh so what this means is Siri Development is no longer under the control of John
1:06:18
Deandrea god I love saying that guy's name apple's senior vice president of machine learning AI strategy he's a guy
1:06:24
who came over from Google a few years ago kind of a big big catch supposedly
1:06:30
uh German wrote "Chief executive officer Tim Cook has lost confidence in the
1:06:37
ability of AI head John Gandrea to execute product development." Dude I
1:06:42
mean can I just point out real fast that Gur says Apple has just wrapped up an
1:06:47
internal meeting with the AI division announcing these changes i was this was this I I I didn't see was this announced
1:06:53
to the whole company geez you just weren't listen no this came out i don't
1:06:58
think any of this was announced to the whole company i mean that's what I mean apple had this like offsite thing or
1:07:04
something day two of their top 100 people right so yeah he's he's So you know you got to imagine like there's
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probably people who work for Gandrea who are like I I work on Siri and it sucks
1:07:14
and where's the leadership i just wonder how he got to him well when there's this
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kind of this is the kind of scenario where uh people talk to you because they
1:07:27
want change they want you to say they want you to say "Hey this guy who's
1:07:33
leading this has he's he's dropped the ball he doesn't he he's not he's not going to get it done."
1:07:38
I mean you you can completely imagine right all these people like talking crap about their boss or you know somebody
1:07:44
they don't like whatever or or maybe they just want their their friend their you know best f-orker to to get a better
1:07:53
uh position but I I don't know this it's this whole thing sounds kind of wild and the the positioning of this guy's
1:07:59
lieutenants inside that department and then he goes in and takes over i thought that was kind of this a major this is a
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major major shakeup can you bet if I was that guy Gandrea I would be like
1:08:14
I don't know embarrassed interesting part of the story it might be half days g and Andrea will remain at
1:08:20
the company even with Rockwell taking over Siri an abrupt departure would signal publicly that the AI efforts have
1:08:27
been tumultuous as if we can't already tell something Apple is reluctant to acknowledge as if we can't already tell
1:08:34
um Gian Andrea's other responsibilities include oversight of research testing and technologies related to AI the
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company also has a team reporting to Gian Andrea investigating robotics so
1:08:46
they're not firing him but this is like as close as they'll get to firing him because they've taken away his biggest
1:08:53
project away from him it's like oh yeah you know you you still have a team you know tooling around with robots
1:08:59
not only that but like it's Siri is being re rebuilt with machine learning
1:09:05
and is supposed to integrate like Apple intelligence all this stuff and like he's their AI guy and they're taking the
1:09:12
AI work from him and giving it to somebody else i wonder if there's like a bit of stigma because he came from Google like oh he's
1:09:19
he's not one of us and so like it's harder for him to build a build the trust and you know maybe he also just
1:09:25
have like the different culture of like you know oh you know just tell the managers what they want to hear and then you know they don't they don't even know
1:09:31
that like the Siri is so far behind that they can't put it in 18.4 for
1:09:36
18.5 mash of cultures i don't know anything about this guy uh you know like
1:09:42
is he actually a genius but I mean he's definitely a highle person that that Apple was you know proud to steal from
1:09:49
Google the question is like did he just have too much on his plate i mean that's possible then they they just said "Hey
1:09:56
we got to make this Siri thing a priority." And you're you know I I I mean you could imagine that happening
1:10:01
too right like they actually go to him and say "Hey wait what's going on here?" But it
1:10:07
really sounds like it was a sneak attack sneak attack yeah man well look I I I I have
1:10:14
hope man like they just imagine in one year if they actually are able to pull
1:10:20
off what they're trying to do here and make Siri actually usable that would be such a huge improvement to iOS imagine
1:10:26
being able to use Siri like you could be able to use I don't know Grock or
1:10:32
Perplexity or I've been really diving into like a lot of these AI tools and they're they're so far ahead of where
1:10:39
Apple is i mean like they're not even in the same universe at this point they're on the cutting edge and doing things
1:10:44
that that Apple has has kind of alluded to maybe with Apple intelligence but is
1:10:50
like not even close to actually accomplishing and like the real tools that you could use for like real work
1:10:55
and real life improvement and that might be something that we bring to this show i don't know if you all be interested in it send us a text it's um in a link at
1:11:02
the top of the show notes let me know what you think do you want to hear more stuff about AI because I've been dig I've been digging in deep to all this
1:11:07
stuff i want to learn all that I can and there's some interesting tools out there and I think a big question that a lot of
1:11:13
people have myself included is okay everyone keeps telling me that AI is going to be the future and is going to
1:11:19
be doing all this stuff what are like five practical things I could use it for in my own life right now because I feel
1:11:26
like no one actually knows what are things you could actually use AI for that would improve your life and would
1:11:32
be something that you would actually want to do like can you name five things off the top of your head like it's actually not easy to do all of it just
1:11:38
seems like hype factor currently it's like it's going to be the future everyone's going to be using it i think that is that probably is true but it's
1:11:44
such wild west days that no one actually can say what it is that it's going to do for regular people
1:11:51
the uh the one example that's been you know this pops up like Apple said that
1:11:56
you could say for instance send the photos from the barbecue on Saturday to Malia you know that's and and this you
1:12:04
know AI powered Siri would be able to work across the apps you know go to the photos app look in your email you know
1:12:10
find your photo identify the person look at the counter you know all this stuff pull it all together and and do
1:12:15
something which would you know powerful thing I mean another example was like you know get my grandma a plane ticket
1:12:23
from Phoenix to Oakland on Saturday find me the best price and buy it all this
1:12:29
kind of stuff complicated actions well um one of the the reports that uh this I
1:12:34
think this one came out right after last week's podcast this is the the first like the one that Gur had the big scoop
1:12:39
like basically transcription of the entire uh meeting private meeting um the
1:12:46
the guy the guy who was talking up the troops and trying to keep them you know from getting too depressed about what a
1:12:52
failure this whole thing has been he said um where oh now I can't find the quote it was uh he said like "Oh well it
1:13:00
it works like between 66 and 80% of the time." Oh that's like uh the great um
1:13:07
Ron or uh not Ron Burgundy quote from Anchorman like 30% of the time works
1:13:12
every time sex panther it's just kind of shocking you know like
1:13:18
gez you know I because that's the kind of it's so mission critical it can't it has to work
1:13:24
99.9 you know it can't it can't work twothirds or three/arters the time well
1:13:30
now allegedly we have Kim Vorath reporting to Mike Rockwell reporting to Craig Federigi so they've got a chain of
1:13:36
command of you know real leaders in charge there now so let's see what happens yeah and Federigi was uh in that
1:13:42
first report he was they were saying like he was one of the people who was like "Oh my god it just doesn't work it
1:13:48
just doesn't work you got you got to fix this." So yeah I hope so i I really like Federigi i mean at least on it doesn't I
1:13:54
mean at least on a charisma level you know I I mean I don't feel like Apple's software
1:14:00
is getting better all the time but uh you know he's also in charge of I mean
1:14:07
how much do these people have to be in charge it just seems crazy like he's in charge of all the platforms how in the
1:14:13
world could you stay on top of them all lots of people working under you that's how hopefully good yeah hopefully that
1:14:22
um man we got so much left we don't have time for all this how long
1:14:28
have we been live it feels like we've been doing the show for uh 55 minutes
1:14:33
really because we spent so much time before we went live which is funny because 55 minutes is like typically how
1:14:39
long the show is it's like if you actually go look in your app it's like "Oh the show's 55 minutes." Let me breeze through these last stories we'll
1:14:45
we'll do a couple speak pipes and we'll wrap this thing up get your speak pipe ready uh let's see here apple's working
1:14:51
on some new mystery displays here we go this is the big one we've been talking
1:14:57
about this before can I find it mini LED could it actually happen perhaps we got
1:15:04
Mark the Germinator of course who else he says um "Apple is rumored to be
1:15:11
planning a second generation studio display with mini LED backlighting for release later this year." Oh man it's
1:15:17
time to sell guys it's time to sell if you got the current studio monitor next year um in his recent Power newslet yeah
1:15:24
yeah yeah yeah yeah whatever specifically he said Apple is working on an additional monitor however he's not
1:15:29
sure what this additional monitor will end up being so it is a mystery product for now he speculated that two monitors
1:15:36
yeah that's right he speculated that Apple could be developing two different second generations display mo models and
1:15:42
will eventually choose which one to launch okay so they're they're testing them out alternatively he guessed that
1:15:48
the other one could be the second generation Pro XDR display which usere plebs would never actually buy and
1:15:54
afford so I don't know but we got to we got to follow the beat on this one because here's the play if you have the
1:16:00
studio monitor like I do you got to sell it to some unknown person on Craigslist
1:16:05
like a month before the announcement before the price plummets so that you should sell it right now and buy one of
1:16:11
the alternative ones you know used and on the cheap and then you won't feel bad about it i probably should get the get
1:16:17
get the Asus Pro Art 5K it's a great display i'm sitting in front of one right now keeps keeps reviewing all
1:16:22
these ones that cost like half the price and deliver the goods and you know what i I have the uh the View Sonic 5K
1:16:27
monitor uh coming to my house I think like within the next few weeks yeah see but Griffin's getting all these as
1:16:33
review units he's not paying for any of them yeah buy a used one buy a used one they're only like new they're only like
1:16:41
$800 wait for the studio display but you know but then I got the next studio display
1:16:47
is probably going to be better because it'll be mini LED and these Oh man it's gonna be great so So hold on you didn't let me finish my angle here so you you
1:16:53
shuck this thing off to some poor sucker on Craigslist right and then like three weeks later the new one gets announced
1:16:59
he's flabbergasted because he doesn't listen to this show he's like "Oh man how did this happen to me?" The price
1:17:05
plummets it's worth half of what it was when he bought it and you my friend are sitting there with your brand new Studio
1:17:10
Display too that's the play right there eyes are Eyes are twinkling eyes are Eyes are twinkling so we got to we got
1:17:16
to follow this beat we got to make sure we know what's going on with the release so we'll keep following this story so we all know when to dump our studio
1:17:23
displays at the right precise moment so some sucker buys it um all right uh last
1:17:30
story before we do um some speak piping um
1:17:35
sounds like something name of that product is so weird it's not good it's not It's not good they should Sounds
1:17:40
like something you pick up in the tenderloin it sounds like something that El Kaney uses that the DEA is investigating all right so iOS 19 could
1:17:49
transform your AirPods into real time translators oh man this is This is
1:17:55
That's Lyall Kenny oh my gosh he is mini um LK Jr look at him yeah I've I've seen
1:18:02
him in person he looks I haven't seen him in a long time he looks exactly like Leander that's wild apple has
1:18:07
continuously improved AirPods via regular updates yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah with iOS 19 Apple seemingly will focus
1:18:14
on adding live translation capabilities to AirPods this is of course coming from the one the only Flark Sherman cousin of
1:18:21
Mark also a great reporter uh Bloomberg reported Thursday that the feature will translate in-person conversations to
1:18:28
another language in real time this is almost too good to to believe um for
1:18:33
example we're gonna give an example as though that didn't already make sense if someone speaks Spanish to you your air
1:18:39
I'm literally reading this for the cult of Mac story here Louis airpods will translate the conversation to English in
1:18:45
real time so got to hit 500 words somehow yeah well you know they get paid per word don't they um let's see airpods
1:18:53
live translation feature will be tied up will be will be would be tied to the upcoming iOS 19 release um Apple will
1:19:01
first showcase the operating system in June oh my gosh it's almost WWDC25 that
1:19:06
is unbelievable dude that's a bonkers feature what you left out the part of it that explained how it works when you
1:19:12
speak your iPhone will translate your words from your AirPods into Spanish and
1:19:17
then play into the speaker of the iPhone or the other person you left that part out sorry I missed it um this this
1:19:24
feature was something that was on the Galaxy Buds 3 Pro and Galaxy S25 Ultra
1:19:32
and they announced this like a year ago maybe longer i don't know how it works i mean it could be complete vaporware i
1:19:37
mean it is Samsung after all but does anyone know if like this feature
1:19:42
actually came to fruition on these Samsung products i don't know i would assume that this feature would probably be based off of the um Apple Translate
1:19:49
app you know like Apple system translation i don't know if like either of you have used it but um the the
1:19:55
Mastadon client that I use has like a you know customizable buttons and so you can add like a uh a translate button
1:20:01
right underneath every every post and every time I see like you know somebody tooting on Masttodon in French or you
1:20:08
know Danish or something like that I it it feels like a superpower i can just like tap the button and be like I can
1:20:13
read your conversations i know what you're talking about you weren't trying to write for us Americans but I can see your stuff and you know it it it's fun
1:20:20
like the system translate feature is pretty uh it doesn't support all of the major languages it's missing a lot of them compared to Google Translate but uh
1:20:27
it's pretty pretty good it's incredible man we live in an incredible time i mean I've traveled all over Europe and and I
1:20:34
did a lot of it when I was younger and it's like communicating with people it's like hand motions right like hand cues i
1:20:41
you don't speak English and if you're in some village in France they're not going to be speaking English to you and to
1:20:47
have something like this where it just real time translates that's it's literally like Star Trek dude it's like the star it's like the translator in
1:20:53
Star Trek it's really unbelievable it already works great i mean it's just that you're you're both sitting there
1:20:58
staring at a phone right or you know the the upgrade on this is that you'd be
1:21:05
hearing it through the AirPods instead but I guess I mean I don't know I I've never actually tried it with my AirPods
1:21:11
in i mean what happens if you are wearing AirPods is you try that right now why didn't I think of that before I
1:21:17
before I came on the air the advantage of of doing it on your phone instead of through your AirPods is that the AirPod
1:21:23
the translation through the AirPods would be private to you only you would be able to hear that so the other person who's speaking Italian wouldn't be able
1:21:29
to know if it's translating it poorly or not okay yeah it also makes it more clean I feel like because they're not
1:21:35
hearing both the audios playing all the time it's like it's interesting yeah i guess it just m it turns it from a text
1:21:42
experience to an audio experience i gotcha okay but but it I I've used it in
1:21:48
uh you know an ER room in Italy you know it's not ER well I guess it was an emer It was kind of an emergency room but you
1:21:55
know you're sitting there like of all times you know you're trying to explain you know what hurts and they're they're
1:22:02
asking you questions in Italian and you're going "Holy crap." Yeah the emergency room
1:22:09
that's how much of an emergency it was it's a room i say er room oh my god
1:22:15
that's right it's Friday i had to go get money at the ATM machine
1:22:20
you know it's funny pin number did it have an liquid crystal display
1:22:28
all right look we got to wrap this thing up should we do some speak piping oh I
1:22:34
can't wait for this yeah um you know what i I I have only listened to part of these so we'll see what these people say
1:22:40
hopefully it's nothing offensive um what wait wait a minute you have Yeah you
1:22:45
haven't vetted these yet not Not entirely if you all want to leave us your own message for a future episode
1:22:51
speak speakpipe.com/cultcast and it's really easy to do you can do it from your phone
1:22:56
and it takes like you know 20 seconds well well it takes however long you want to leave the message the point is that
1:23:01
recording it is super easy like it would take you should take 20 seconds we don't want to keep it to 30 seconds or less
1:23:07
right don't don't don't give me a long you know five minute story about your aunt Eugene and how she wants to make
1:23:12
you pancakes for your birthday but that's not what you wanted and then go into your Apple story after that or whatever you want to talk about actually we don't care what you say um all right
1:23:20
we care a little bit about what you say maybe a teeny tiny bit uh we got Ben
1:23:25
from Spokane ben from Spokane i hope he doesn't say anything horribly racist let's see here jeez hi this is Ben
1:23:33
calling in from Spokane Washington and I am just calling in to let you know that I love the cult and I listen every week
1:23:42
and I've been using a Mac since June 1st of ' 08 he knows the date and I used
1:23:47
voice over and I am very excited about the new redesign that Apple is doing
1:23:55
is he talking about the OS redesign that makes one of us ben
1:24:00
geez I like this guy he listens every week love that he knows the exact date at
1:24:06
which he entered the Apple ecosystem that's That's impressive well you got yours tattooed on your palm right uh
1:24:12
it's actually on my left derriè butt cheek okay which is the next level but he'll get there all right we got one
1:24:19
more allan allan from the UK ready obvious
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this one might have some questions for us so here we go hello Fon Lewis and Griffin this is Alan from the UK first
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of all thanks ever so much for producing the extremely funny Cultcast podcast every week it's my second favorite
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podcast ever oh I think that's the end of the audio there let's go ahead and get that IP of best band can you get the
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mods in here second only to the UK's Mac and Forth podcast though I probably should declare an interest there that's
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a great name mac and Forth that is good anyway I'm calling today about Apple's
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one of Apple's best ever products you know what it is it's the original HomePod
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might be one of Apple's best products ever wow i've listened to my stereo pair
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of white OG HomePods in my kitchen almost every day for seven whole years but last week one of them succumbed to
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the dreaded popping sound and then completely died a few days later so by my calculation that HomePod cost me
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about 14 p per day over that seven years of service I've had out of it okay so
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now I'm considering paying £99 to a UK repair guy who says he'll replace all of
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the dodgy diodes and capacitors that are known to cause problems and it'll breathe new life into my beloved HomePod
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i think I'll find that to be a good investment so I have two questions for you guys first question to Airon what
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happened to your OG HomePod that went faulty did you get it repaired and how's it doing now oh and the second question
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to all of you do you ever like me work out the cost per day or the cost per month for your tech gear i tend to do it
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obsessively and it it usually makes me feel a lot better about the value and longevity I get from buying quite
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expensive Apple products anyway thanks again for producing a truly great show cheers guys
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i like this guy i like this guy a lot well let me address first of all thank you for your question Alan and for
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taking the time to send us something um quick catchup on my HomePod saga i
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have not got it fixed yet but I am going to i think the HomePod is one of the
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original HomePod is one of one of Apple's best products that they've ever made i also think it's one of the biggest product bungles Apple has ever
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had they designed that that thing had that thing has several fatal flaws first
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of all it has like these weird issues that they never dialed out and then they somehow um didn't realize that they need
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to make the HomePod serviceable in any way and no one can seem to repair these things except for like these you know
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guerilla warfare dudes who like you know whisper at you on the street and they're like "Hey you want me to fix your HomePod?" And you have to like go into
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their secret underground layer where they have like you know children taking apart computers and soldering irons
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everywhere water dripping from the ceiling water's dripping from the ceiling and there's a dog barking that's chained to some fence and then they
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repair it for you why is it so hard to service these things and yet it's such a
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beautiful angel there's just nothing that sings as sweetly as one of the HomePods especially in a stereo pair and
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so I'm still using my single it's actually sitting right behind me the the one that still works and I found a guy I
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mentioned this before who works in Belleview Washington which is close to Seattle it's right across the water
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actually and I've been meaning to go over there and and see his repair center the the dude streams all of his repairs
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on YouTube um in fact I wish I had the address here if I were more prepared I would have and um he will he can repair
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anything and he's he's like the dude is so busy i mean anytime I try to get together with him like he he's like I
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have like 25 repairs coming in this week like people are sending this guy his HomePods or their HomePods to get them fixed because people love the HomePods
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so much and there are very few people that know how to fix them so is it worth the repair i think so because you can't
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replace it and the new HomePods are not even in the same realm as the old
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HomePods apple lowered the price but they lowered the quality and they removed that special something that the
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first HomePods have the second HomePods are not I was going to say nearly as magical but I think I would say they're
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not magical the first ones were they have like this magical eperrovescence to the audio that the second ones don't
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have and it's truly sad so if you can get one fixed I I would go ahead and get
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it fixed now to your second question Lewis I send that to you do you ever break down the cost of your gadgets
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on a per hourly per minute basis well see I'm a word guy numbers are not my
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friend so no I have never even thought about doing that and I my brain hurts even thinking about it so no no I
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haven't i was scared to run those numbers but I I did it for the sake of
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the show for the show uh I believe Allan said that he worked out to 17 p with his
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HomePods i'm averaging uh over $10 per day with my Vision Pro whoa well the
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longer you have it you know the uh Yeah yeah it's funny i don't do that with Apple products but I do do it with other
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stuff like my gym membership yeah I with like with my gym membership but only when it annoys me i never do it to to
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make myself less annoyed like for my gym I'm like "Oh if I don't go like four
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times a week then then my gym is costing me like $10 per visit or something i forget what the number is which just
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annoys me it's like it motivates me to go more because every time I go it cuts down my my my per use you know cost."
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And but like with gadgets I think the way I always think about it is like I spent X dollars on this and if I have to
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replace it I have to replace the whole thing and if it breaks before a certain
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time period I'm just annoyed by that you know I'm like this should have lasted me seven or eight years because I spent
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like $500 and if you know you had $500 spread over eight years it's like okay I
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got a reasonable lifespan out of it but it never makes me feel better to break it down on a per daily basis it's like
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it's like when people say I always hear this in podcasts they're like "Support my podcast it will only cost you 12
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cents per day." And I'm always like "Who who does that logic ever make anyone want to actually give you any money?"
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Because I don't think that people typically calculate costs on a on like a per daily basis when they're having like
1:30:40
an outflow it's always like on a monthly basis it's like "Okay how much do I have to fork over per month?" It's like "Oh
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$6." It's like "Oh man six bucks just listen to the cult every single day like
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the same weekly episode seven times in a row then it's only one cent you know it's like one how much does it cost per
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word that we speak it's like you know infant decimal you cannot even calculate it so in that in that way it's like a
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great value this episode's really cheap considering how long we're going yeah that's true and uh I think I might have
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a solution for your uh your gym problem air fun yeah let's hear it if you live anywhere I guess this goes for anybody
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if you live near a university of any kind don't go to like your Planet Fitness or whatever just go to your
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university rec center usually it's just like a student sitting behind the desk and you can just like walk by and they won't really care i did that student at
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Ohio University uh that's what I did for fencing i was part of the OU fencing club because it's just like open for any locals who live there i just walked
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right in they didn't check huh they would look at me and I just like "Oh fencing." And I just like walk right through the gate see my rec center so
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I'm I'm probably three miles from the University of Washington huge huge college and they have a state-of-the-art
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rec center like it's beautiful it's overlooking the lake i have a feeling that everything in there is automated
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like you probably have to scan your badge there's probably like It's probably like going through airport security in that place and if you don't
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have like a student ID with like a NFC chip in it like I don't think you're getting in to that place but I should
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check it out because there are no good gyms in my area and uh I tried 24-hour
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fitness it was horribly depressing although the price was right um you know
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it was like $10 a month it was crazy but it's kind of too far from my house and then I tried I was going to try LA
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Fitness so they built this brand new LA Fitness near my house which you know there's not a lot of brand new gyms
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anywhere near my house and the price there was really good and they had a lot of really good really good features like
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they had this perk that allowed you to bring a friend with you anytime you wanted to go and I was like dude that's
1:32:43
cool like you could bring somebody with you well it sounds cool until you go
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there and it's near the college so what is it it's a bunch of people sharing gym
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memberships right so the place is always packed you're always waiting for machines worse it's And I didn't know this was a
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thing but this is a real thing dudes bring their girlfriends to the gym and the girls just sit there like "Oh wow."
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Like "Oo so much weight." And like between sets they're making out i'm not kidding what like buff guys bring their
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skinny girlfriends to the gym and the the girl just sits there on the machine waiting for him like watching him lift
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weights and then in between they're sitting there like smooching and stuff and giggling and he's like she's like rubbing his muscles and I'm like this is
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what's it called la Fitness la Fitness it's like a national chain dude and and and it it
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sounds like it's going to be great because oh I can bring people no man because I'm not bringing anyone i'm
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married you know like I'm not My wife's not trying to go to the gym with me and and and and rub oil in my biceps while
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I'm lifting like that's not happening right it's like these college kids do it and then there's like the older guys who
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show up with the college girls and they're there for fanfare i don't know
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but like they never seem to actually lift anything heavy so I don't know where I was going with this man but
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bring your own cheer squad to the gym like all those I could give examples for
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all those stories those are true situations that I witnessed in the gym
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anyway I think that's it that's all the whole cast we have for you guys finally hit bottom this week that's it i hope
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you're all sufficiently nauseated that means that it's time for us to go uh but you know what the party continues if
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you're on the allnew X anyway I'm at Airfon lewis is at Lewis Wallace just Google DG Griffin Jones he's on all
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sorts of you know random shady social media outlets
1:34:40
well bold of you to call Masttodon shady when you're on X but all right but you might find him there just
1:34:46
waiting to have a conversation with you because there's no users on the platform besides him
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i'm sorry i'm just tooting alone in the dark i know or you can hang out with us
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in the all new coat club all you got to do is fork it over it's only1 cent for two hours isn't that a good deal aka $5
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a month is that too much to fork over i don't think so not Not for some good oldfashioned fun and friendship anyway
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that's it that's all the cocast we have for you guys this week but never fear new episodes of the cast come out every
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Thursday night or Friday i want to thank you all for hanging out live and for listening we'll see you
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guys next time it's like watching It's like watching
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the offic's prison mic at the gym that's what it's like man it's
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surrounded by girls figning girls who just love and are so impressed by how much the
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person's lifting there was a guy at my gym the other day took his shirt off
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took his shirt off at the gym and was flexing in the mirror guess who was with him his girlfriend she was impressed i was not
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oh jeez surprised they weren't live streaming it uh don't give me any
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[Music] ideas all right everyone oh shout out to Hugo Lassa 1999
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super chat i forgot to mention Hugo maybe bye
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