Super-slim #iPhoneAir launches at the #Apple Awe Dropping event as Plus replacement — and the biggest #iPhone redesign in years.
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[Music]
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Yeah. So, this is the rumored slim
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iPhone. We were right on the name. It is
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iPhone Air, although it is not iPhone 17
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Air. It's just iPhone Air. I think a
0:10
friend of the show, Sam Henry Gold, did
0:12
some spelunking on the Apple website and
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actually found a few references like in
0:15
the HTML code where they they refer to
0:18
like images and alt text as iPhone 17
0:20
Air.
0:21
So,
0:21
so weird. Why did they try?
0:22
It might have been a last minute
0:23
marketing decision there, but um yeah,
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the iPhone Air, it measures just 5.6 6
0:29
mm thick, making it substantially
0:31
thinner than current models. It has a
0:33
titanium body rather than aluminum,
0:36
probably for like the additional
0:38
structural rigidity to make it that
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thinner. Much thinner. And they they
0:42
still say it's like the strongest or no,
0:44
I forget exactly the superlative they
0:46
used, but either the strongest or like
0:48
most durable iPhone they've ever made.
0:50
like this. Although it's so thin, like
0:52
you know, we we'll see how how how bend
0:55
gate uh affects this phone, but um yeah,
0:58
it's super durable. For a comparison,
1:01
the iPhone 16 Pro is 8.25 mm thick,
1:06
while the base iPhone 16 and 16 Plus are
1:09
7.8 mm.
1:11
Even the iPhone 6 measured 6.9 mm thin.
1:14
So,
1:15
and that was the previous thinnest one.
1:16
Is that right?
1:17
Yeah, that was the previous thinnest
1:18
one. So, this is substantially thinner
1:20
than like the previous thinnest.
1:22
I've seen a It's about as thin as a an
1:25
old iPod Nano, right? One of the old
1:27
Nanos.
1:28
Yeah. The last Nano they made that was
1:30
kind of like a tiny iPhone. I really
1:32
want one of those, by the way. But yeah,
1:34
it's it's about as thin as that. It's
1:36
not quite as thin as that, but it's
1:37
about as thin as that.
1:38
Okay. I think I've got one with a
1:39
swelling battery that I can sell you
1:41
with a bunch of other Apple junk for
1:42
your collection.
1:43
Sure. Sure.
1:45
Um, so this model gets ceramic shield on
1:48
both the front and the back. Um, and
1:50
they have a new ceramic shield 2 that
1:52
they say is like what, four times more
1:56
scratch resistant.
1:58
Uh, and that and the ceramic shield 2 is
2:00
on the front so the glass isn't going to
2:01
be as scratchy. Uh, internally basically
2:06
the entire phone and all of its
2:08
components are in what they call the
2:10
iconic plateau. So,
2:15
have they ever did they use that term
2:16
before? I I don't remember hearing that,
2:18
but maybe they did.
2:19
Plateau as a term is what they like
2:21
internally used to refer to that bump.
2:24
And I think in some like in like the the
2:26
big long document that shows all the
2:29
exact precise dimensions and specs that
2:31
they send to like camera makers or know
2:33
case makers, they refer to it as the
2:35
plateau, but it wasn't really something
2:36
that they used publicly before. But I
2:40
feel like this goes along with dynamic
2:42
island and all these other new terms.
2:45
Like Apple wants to give a term to
2:47
everything to avoid it being stuck with
2:49
a negative name,
2:51
which I I think Yeah. Like notch. Notch
2:53
is the canonical examp.
2:56
Yeah. So now it's the plateau of the
2:58
dynamic island.
2:59
Feels classy, doesn't it? It's a
3:01
plateau.
3:02
Well, it's not just a plateau. It's
3:03
called the iconic plateau.
3:05
Yeah. So basically the entire phone
3:08
lives in there. I mean, that was the
3:09
open question. We were like, well, you
3:11
know, on the Pro phones, the camera bump
3:12
is going to be bigger, probably because
3:14
they have some fancy camera stuff going
3:15
on in there, but why is it on the 17
3:17
Air? That doesn't make any sense. Well,
3:18
this is the answer. The entire phone is
3:20
in there and protrudes out a little bit.
3:22
It's insane, isn't it? It's it's amazing
3:25
militarization. I mean, that was a
3:26
bigger surprise from this whole thing. I
3:28
think that they managed to cram the, you
3:30
know, the entire guts, the computing
3:32
guts of the phone into the into the the
3:34
plateau.
3:35
It's crazy. And that rest of it is just
3:37
battery. Battery and screen.
3:39
Mhm. I think it's an open question as to
3:40
where the taptic engine is because that
3:43
usually works better on the bottom half
3:45
of the phone where your hand is so that
3:46
you feel more of the vibration there. I
3:48
don't know if we know that yet or maybe
3:50
somebody hasn't dissected Apple's like
3:52
3D imagery of it yet. But um yeah,
3:54
another question people had was like,
3:56
well, you know, if the camera bar is
3:57
sticking out that far, is the phone
3:59
going to be really topheavy? Because
4:00
that would be kind of uncomfortable to
4:02
have. But I mean, I would think about
4:03
it. probably the battery is probably
4:05
going to be the heavier part of it and
4:06
so having all the battery weight like in
4:09
the lower threequarters might not might
4:11
offset like the extra protrusion on top.
4:13
So again, we'll we'll see that when we
4:15
have it in our hands. Uh the display
4:17
size is halfway between the regular
4:20
phone and the big phone. So it's 6.5 in
4:23
compared to 6.3 and 6.9. Single 48
4:26
megapixel rear fusion camera just like
4:29
the iPhone 16e.
4:31
Um, as far as I know, I don't think they
4:33
made that many improvements to their
4:35
rear 1x lens this year. I I don't
4:38
remember them. They didn't really talk
4:39
about it that much. A lot of the camera
4:40
improvements are the front camera, which
4:42
we'll get to. You know, the the
4:43
telephoto lens on the Pro phones, and
4:45
the, you know, the the regular iPhone 17
4:48
gets the improved ultra wide camera, but
4:50
not really anything new on the 1x
4:52
camera. If I, if I remember correctly,
4:54
the front camera is an 18 megapixel
4:58
square sensor. So, because it's square,
5:01
you no longer have to like physically
5:03
rotate your phone vertically and
5:04
horizontally.
5:05
Yeah. Yeah.
5:06
That is excellent. That is an excellent
5:08
These are probably This is probably some
5:09
of the big the best the best camera
5:11
improvements is that is that front
5:12
center stage camera and the and the
5:15
stuff they're doing there.
5:16
Mhm.
5:17
The new selfie camera. That looks really
5:18
really sweet.
5:19
I'm I'm very excited to try that out. Uh
5:22
in terms of accessories, we have an
5:25
iPhone air case with Mag Safe uh which
5:28
is the the thin translucent one that's
5:32
under a millimeter thin in the back. You
5:35
know, the whole thing about that phone
5:36
is like, you know, oh, you buy a super
5:38
thin phone, but you have to put it in a
5:39
case. Well, this case is still only like
5:41
they they described as being under a
5:42
millimeter thin. So, if you think about
5:45
it, even if you add that case, you'd
5:47
still be thinner than the thinnest than
5:49
the next thinnest iPhone ever because
5:51
that would be what? 6.6 millimeters
5:53
thick. Still thinner than the iPhone 6.
5:55
So, you can put this thing in a case and
5:56
it'll still be thinner. That's kind of
5:58
crazy.
6:00
Uh, you have a bumper case with a quote
6:03
reinforced polycarbonate design.
6:07
The interesting thing about this bumper
6:08
case is that the camera protrudes beyond
6:12
the edge of the bumper on the back.
6:15
Yeah, Apple has like one promotional
6:17
image on their, you know, when you go to
6:18
buy the case on the Apple store where
6:19
they show it from the bottom and you can
6:21
see
6:22
Yeah, the the camera protrudes beyond
6:24
the border of the case. So, I think that
6:28
was a question we had like, you know,
6:29
how would how would it work? I was
6:30
thinking, well, maybe the bumper would
6:31
get thicker on like the top edge of the
6:33
phone since you're not really touching
6:35
that area anyways. No, Apple Apple
6:38
doesn't want to blemish the the the
6:40
beautiful design of the the thin uniform
6:42
bumper. So,
6:43
yeah. Yeah. I wonder how that's gonna
6:44
work. I maybe we can get a bumper for
6:45
the um for the camera bump. A bump for
6:47
the bump of the bump.
6:49
Yeah. Additional bumper.
6:51
We have the crossbody strap which is
6:54
made from your recycled yarns and uh
6:57
Apple describes it as draping
6:59
comfortably around you with an embedded
7:02
flexible magnets and a stainless steel
7:04
sliding mechanisms so that you can
7:07
adjust the length and uh keep both of
7:09
like the the straps like snapped
7:11
together so there's no like you know
7:13
dangly bits around that. Cross body
7:16
straps I am told are very popular. Have
7:17
you have you seen a lot of people
7:18
wearing these styles of things? I've
7:20
seen a few. I've seen a few. Yeah. And
7:22
definitely more popular more recently.
7:23
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You see people that in
7:25
the wild.
7:27
One of the videos or something they have
7:29
was like of a a guy getting on a bicycle
7:31
with a with one of those things on. I
7:33
was like, I don't know. It's an odd
7:36
look. I was wondering how many men are
7:39
going to be using the cross body strap.
7:42
And I
7:43
I mean, we have pockets, so that's not a
7:44
concern for us.
7:45
Yeah. Yeah, I mean most of the people
7:46
I've seen using these things. It's been
7:48
when I've been uh on vacation, see
7:51
people, you know, tourists, it's perfect
7:53
for if you're a tourist, you're walking
7:54
around, you got this thing, you know,
7:56
it's always there. You don't have to dig
7:57
it out if you see something you want to
7:58
take a picture of.
7:59
But
8:00
I've heard somebody say like it's harder
8:01
to uh, you know, get get your phone
8:03
swiped out of your hands if it's if
8:04
you're wearing a strap. You know,
8:06
pickpockets, they they can't just like,
8:08
you know, grab it off of you because
8:09
they'd have to pull it off your
8:10
shoulders. They can't just like grab it
8:12
out of your hands and like go running
8:13
down the street, you know? Does it
8:15
detach attach magnetically though? I
8:17
mean, it's just going to pop right off.
8:19
It's going to be like
8:20
So, it clips into the corner of the case
8:21
to your phone. So, that part is secure.
8:23
The magnetic part is the fact that like
8:26
the strap attaches magnetically to
8:28
itself so that it isn't all like
8:30
loosened down.
8:30
No, I I misunderstood the whole thing.
8:33
So, it's actually secure. Somewhat
8:35
secure.
8:35
It is secure. Some of the Apple cases I
8:38
don't know if they've actually said
8:39
which ones or they they don't make it
8:41
obvious. Some of the Apple cases like
8:43
the tech woven case and the 17 air clear
8:47
case have like holes on the bottom that
8:49
you can loop lanyards through. So I mean
8:51
the advantage there is that you can loop
8:53
third party lanyards through it as well,
8:54
not just Apple's official
8:56
lanyard. Got it.
8:57
Strap. We have a mag safe battery for
8:59
the 17 Air that attaches to the back. Uh
9:02
but because it's so tall and thin, it
9:05
doesn't fit any other model of iPhone,
9:07
just the 17 Air. They describe it as the
9:10
17 Air battery pack. And that is the
9:12
only one it fits, which is a mild
9:15
disappointment. I think a lot of people
9:17
were wishing for Apple to like update
9:19
the Mag Safe battery pack accessories so
9:20
they could buy it for their, you know,
9:22
iPhone 16 or 17 Pro. I was one of those
9:26
people, but uh no dice. It is just for
9:28
the 17 Air.
9:29
Yeah, that that sounds a bit of a lost
9:31
opportunity maybe, but
9:33
I I can see where they're coming from.
9:34
They want to make it as thin as
9:35
possible, and to make it as thin as
9:36
possible, they have to make it as tall
9:37
and wide as possible. And the 17 Air is
9:40
the only phone that has had that much
9:42
open space on the back without a, you
9:44
know, camera bump.
9:45
Yeah,
9:46
except for the 16e, but the 16E doesn't
9:48
have Mag Safe. So,
9:50
yeah,
9:50
there's going to be no shortage of of uh
9:52
of of batteries anyway, isn't it?
9:53
Compatible with these new phones. So,
9:55
we we talked on the show about like
9:56
these new Ankor Mags Safe battery packs
9:58
that are also pretty thin and light and
10:00
fit on modern iPhones. So, third parties
10:03
can step in there. This is kind of
10:05
interesting. During the event, they were
10:07
really koi about talking about the
10:08
battery life on the iPhone. They were
10:10
like, you know, John Turner was like,
10:11
"Now, let's talk battery life. It has
10:13
battery life.
10:15
They're like, "Oh god, how's it going to
10:16
be? How much bad is it going to be?"
10:18
It's kind of perplexing because it
10:20
actually doesn't have that much worse
10:22
battery life than you would expect. If
10:23
you look on Apple's website, and they
10:26
don't have very good specs for this.
10:27
They only measure battery life in hours
10:30
of streamed video playback. But based on
10:33
that metric, the 17 Air has the same
10:36
battery life as the iPhone 16 Pro. Both
10:38
of them site 22 hours of streamed video
10:40
playback. So I don't know why they were
10:43
so koi about it if it's actually
10:46
pretty good. Yeah.
10:47
Yeah. It's the exact same as their
10:49
flagship phone of the previous year.
10:50
And if this is a Isn't it a different
10:53
kind of battery? Is it a new battery? I
10:56
think it's a new battery chemistry or
10:58
some new battery technology because all
11:00
of the Apple devices got significantly
11:03
better battery life this year. All of
11:04
the iPhone lineup, the Apple Watch got
11:06
the first battery life increase that it
11:08
has ever had on the regular series
11:10
models. The AirPods have better battery
11:12
life. I think they switched to a new
11:14
battery chemistry. Apple was also really
11:16
koi about this. They just said they
11:18
rearch re-engineered the battery
11:19
architecture or something vague like
11:21
that. But
11:22
but because there was all these all
11:23
rumors about how it was going to be a
11:25
solid state battery, wasn't it?
11:27
Yeah, I think these might be like
11:28
partially solid state batteries in in
11:30
some way or another. They're tear downs
11:32
will probably reveal more answers to
11:34
these questions, but new battery
11:35
chemistry.
11:36
I mean, it's such an important This is
11:38
one of the most the things that people
11:39
are most worried about, isn't it? When
11:41
they I mean, this is the one feature
11:42
that people want Apple to improve um is
11:45
battery life. It's like the one thing
11:46
that comes up over and over. And if they
11:47
have a new kind of battery, it's
11:49
surprising they didn't make more of a a
11:50
bigger deal out of it. They didn't talk
11:52
about it.
11:53
They're just uh shy about like going
11:55
into too many technical details. They
11:57
just wanted to talk about it in terms of
11:59
this device has eight more hours of
12:00
battery life than the model it replaces.
12:03
Yeah. Yeah. And that was a that was a
12:04
really packed event anyway. I mean, it
12:05
was like bang bang bang bang bang bang
12:07
bang and so fast
12:08
that uh you know
12:10
it was really short too. It was, you
12:12
know, they had similar amount. I know
12:14
that point loss on the prediction game,
12:16
but they honestly had more that they
12:18
announced this year than last year, and
12:19
the event was shorter by like 20
12:21
minutes.
12:22
So,
12:22
yeah, it was snappy. It was good. I
12:24
really enjoyed it. I I liked it a lot.
12:26
Uh, in terms of colors, we have uh
12:29
colors inspired by the concept of
12:31
lightness. So, we have sky blue, light
12:33
gold, cloud white, and black.
12:36
Could barely call them colors.
12:39
Yep. barely colors.
12:41
Which Which color do you like the best?
12:43
Not especially taken by any of them. I
12:46
ordered an iPhone air in the light gold
12:50
color. I'm going to see how that looks.
12:52
The colors on the the glass colors on
12:54
the back are very pale, but you know,
12:55
the shiny edges around look kind of
12:57
vibrant. So, I I think the gold might
13:00
have a an attractive look to it.
13:02
I think white white's a good color. You
13:04
can never really go wrong with a white
13:05
iPhone. I think
13:06
if I were ordering this personally for
13:07
myself, I would probably get either the
13:09
white or the black. But if it if I'm
13:12
buying a product to review, I feel
13:14
compelled to like get one of the colors
13:15
so I can talk about the colors more
13:17
with my hands-on experience for the
13:18
people who like colors. So, I felt
13:20
compel compelled to get either the blue
13:21
or the gold. And
13:23
I'm going to go for the for the one
13:25
that's closer to the hues of tans and
13:27
browns that
13:29
that is my favorite. So, yeah, light
13:31
gold. We'll see how that looks. $999 for
13:34
256 GB. So, it takes the slot of the Pro
13:38
phone price-wise and bumped up in
13:40
storage.
13:42
That's still And that's a base storage
13:44
across the whole lineup. Everything is
13:45
now the the 256 minimum. And that's a
13:48
pretty good that's not a bad size, is
13:49
it? I mean,
13:50
it's excellent. I think I think a lot of
13:52
people who have pretty light needs are
13:53
easily going to fit within 256
13:55
gigabytes.
13:56
Yeah.
13:56
I I think that is one of the the the
13:58
sleeper hits of the year. Really?
14:01
Yeah. What what did you think of the
14:02
phone though? What were you tempted by
14:04
it? I
14:05
Well, I I thought that the
14:07
way that they introduced it was
14:09
brilliant.
14:11
I loved the video that they had made me
14:14
definitely want one immediately. Like
14:16
like it was just
14:19
the whole like way that they made it
14:20
look. Oh, it's so light and it floats
14:22
and it you know I mean that was a that
14:24
was a really great introduction. I mean
14:26
I complain about them uh doing these
14:28
pre-recorded things but that was pretty
14:30
beautiful. Um, yeah. I mean, I it's
14:33
tempting to get the phone just because
14:35
who wouldn't like a a light more
14:37
lightweight phone. Um, I got, you know,
14:40
the Pro in my back pocket all the time.
14:42
It always feels like I got uh something
14:44
substantial back there. Uh, then again,
14:47
you know, like I the lack I I think the
14:51
biggest thing for me is the the lack of
14:53
camera on the back. You know, the the
14:56
Well, the new one has an 8x camera,
14:58
right? And this thing has what, 2x? I
15:00
mean, that's that's not much of a zoom.
15:02
I kind of like having a zoom available.
15:04
I mean, I I regularly use a 5x zoom just
15:07
to be able to read a uh a bar menu, a
15:10
beer menu in a bar.
15:12
Uh so I and it's I mean, it's true. It
15:15
It's almost like a you know, geriatric
15:18
beer help.
15:22
Five Zoom.
15:23
Yeah. Yeah. I mean,
15:24
you just hold the menu close up. No,
15:26
like you know, you go to one of these
15:28
great bars like uh you know, Holy Water
15:29
up here on Courtland. They've got the
15:31
rotating taps and they're all on little
15:33
signs that are about the size of a a
15:35
license plate or something with little
15:37
little writing that explains what it is.
15:38
I if I'm standing at if that bar is busy
15:40
and I'm standing at the back, I have to
15:41
use a 5x zoom to get well maybe not
15:43
five, but more than two to to get a nice
15:46
and then you can see what the beers are.
15:48
You know, it's nice. So,
15:50
that's a very specific use case.
15:52
Yeah. Unfortunately, I use it a lot, but
15:55
uh
15:57
yeah. Well, but the cameras though are
15:59
great, aren't they? I mean, um in the
16:01
16e, I mean, you tested it out, Griffin.
16:04
Yeah. Yeah. It's great as long as you
16:06
don't want to zoom it in. But
16:07
when whenever you do, then you're just
16:09
kind of at a loss.
16:10
I mean, that like I I don't really
16:12
lament the ultrawide too much. I know
16:14
like a lot of Gen Z like the ultra wide
16:16
camera, but I don't really use it too
16:18
often, honestly. I think it's kind of
16:19
annoying when you're trying to take a a
16:22
regular picture of something like on a
16:23
table and it switches to the ultra wide
16:25
camera but zooms in and crops it and
16:27
makes it uglier like just because the
16:29
main 1x lens doesn't have a very good
16:31
like minimum focus distance. But like
16:34
yeah the zoom the if if you ever take
16:37
like zoomed in pictures with the
16:38
telephoto like the 5x that I mean that's
16:41
really the biggest draw of this phone in
16:43
my opinion. Um I I don't like how it
16:46
doesn't have the telephoto zoom. I also
16:47
don't like how it's even bigger than the
16:50
regular one. I mean, I understand they
16:52
have to maximize like the length and
16:54
height of it to fit as big of a battery
16:56
in it as they can.
16:58
Like, if they made it as, you know,
16:59
narrow and short as I wanted it, it
17:01
would probably get like half the
17:02
battery. But
17:04
that's an unfortunate side effect. Yeah.
17:06
Um,
17:06
you want like an a credit card size
17:08
phone, you know. But that's a good
17:09
point. Uh, it is bigger than the Pro
17:12
like dimension wise. And I I really
17:14
think that the the current 6.3 in size
17:17
of the Pro is like
17:19
it's on the fence of being too big. It
17:21
is like just barely small enough to
17:23
really be tolerable
17:24
for someone who likes to use their phone
17:26
one-handed.
17:27
Uh so although I'm very excited to like
17:30
try it out because I bet it will feel
17:31
excellent in the hand just because of
17:33
how thin it is.
17:34
Um it I guess I should also point out it
17:37
isn't quite as light as I think a lot of
17:40
people were hoping. It is a little
17:41
heavier. It's about the same weight as
17:44
the iPhone as the iPhone 12. Not the 12
17:49
Pro, but the iPhone 12, like the
17:50
aluminum one from 2020. I was kind of
17:52
expecting it to be a little lighter, but
17:53
you know, a lot of its volume is
17:56
occupied by battery, and the battery is
17:57
probably very dense in this thing. So,
17:59
yeah, I I wish you could see this before
18:01
you could you have to order it. You
18:03
know, es especially for us, like, you
18:04
know, the pre-order types.
18:06
Um, the ones who have to get it straight
18:07
away. Um, I'm very sort of nervous about
18:11
pulling the trigger before actually
18:13
checking it out. Um, like you said, I
18:16
think the screen size is one of the
18:17
things that I'd prefer a smaller phone.
18:19
Um, even though I'm using a a Max Pro
18:21
Max right now, I'd like to go smaller.
18:24
Um, and will that, you know, will it
18:26
make that much of a difference between
18:27
6.5 in and 6.3 in? Actually, probably it
18:31
would, wouldn't it? You know, like
18:32
smaller is better. But yeah, I
18:34
definitely want to check it out before
18:35
buying it. Um,
18:37
so it's a shame. I don't know what to
18:39
do, you know, like I I'm I'm you know,
18:41
pre-orders start tomorrow, don't they?
18:42
So,
18:44
I'm not going to I'm I I have no idea
18:46
what I'm going to order. No idea at all.
18:47
I mean, they they keep an amount of
18:49
stock in the stores. So, if you go they
18:51
they have some reserved for the people
18:53
who just walk in and want to try before
18:55
they buy.
18:56
Yeah.
18:56
If especially in San Francisco, you're
18:58
very lucky. If you go to your nearest
19:00
Apple store, you can pick both of them
19:01
up and see, oh yeah, I want this one
19:03
more or
19:04
make that decision.
19:05
Yeah, maybe I'll skip the pre-ordering
19:07
this year. Then I have to get up at 5
19:08
a.m.
19:09
Wow, that sounds appealing, actually.
19:12
I mean, I think the ultimate question
19:13
is, is the Air a better addition to the
19:17
line, more valuable to the lineup than
19:19
the than a potential 17 plus would be? I
19:23
mean, if you liked the Plus model
19:25
because you just want the biggest screen
19:27
without spending a lot of money, yeah,
19:29
this is kind of this doesn't really fill
19:31
all of those requirements and it
19:32
probably has worse battery life than a
19:34
17 Plus would have had. But honestly, I
19:37
think it it's better because it
19:38
diversifies the lineup much more. You
19:40
know, instead of having four basically
19:43
the same phones, you now have one that
19:45
is marketkedly different, makes a
19:47
completely different set of trade-offs,
19:48
has a different philosophy to it. you
19:50
you ultimately have more choice now than
19:52
I think you would have had before. So
19:54
yeah, it's actually exciting. For the
19:56
first time in, you know, a little while,
19:58
there's an exciting new iPhone,
20:01
right? And then, of course, you know,
20:02
there was a lot of speculation that this
20:04
is obviously a trial run for the folding
20:06
phone
20:07
coming coming next year. This is Apple,
20:09
you know, doing testing out the
20:11
components, the design, the durability.
20:15
I'm sure there's all kinds of stuff
20:16
they're going to learn over the next
20:17
year or so before they uh trot out the
20:20
iPhone that you know that the supply
20:21
chain. Um getting all the components
20:23
lined up, making, you know, the
20:25
manufacturing is all nice and clear.
20:26
It's obviously a trial run for the
20:28
folding phone.
20:28
And the thing about that is that like a
20:30
folding phone would have to make fewer
20:32
trade-offs than the Airhead just because
20:33
it would have more surface area to work
20:35
with. Not just screen space, but also a
20:37
folding phone would have room for the
20:38
extra cameras on the back. It would have
20:39
room for more speakers. The folding
20:41
phone, although it'll fold into a mini
20:43
iPad, will feel more like a premium pro
20:46
phone than this one will.
20:48
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw people,
20:49
actually, but you mentioned the stereo
20:51
speakers that people were losing their
20:52
minds on the socials about the fact that
20:54
it only has a mono speaker that doesn't
20:57
have stereo speakers. It was like, oh my
20:58
god, I can't believe they did this, you
21:00
know? Like, who's going to pay that kind
21:01
of money for a premium phone and that
21:03
without stereo speakers? But like when
21:06
was the last time you used a speaker for
21:07
anything except like you know maybe the
21:08
ringtone or
21:09
young people will just play Tik Tok over
21:11
their phone speaker as entertainment. So
21:15
that that is actually a downside if if
21:16
you don't have AirPods and you just want
21:18
Can you actually hear does it any stereo
21:19
separation on the stereo on the stereo
21:21
speakers on
21:22
I don't think it's I don't think they're
21:23
complaining so much about stereo
21:24
separation as they are about like it'll
21:26
probably have lower volume and lower
21:27
audio quality.
21:29
Yeah. Well, we'll see. It it has uh
21:34
only speakers at the top, right? Like
21:36
where where the ear
21:37
Yeah.
21:38
It doesn't have them at the bottom of
21:39
the phone.
21:41
And same thing I think microphones are
21:43
uh like only a micro like less
21:45
microphones,
21:47
right?
21:48
So I'm It has built-in microphones at
21:50
the bottom and built-in microphone at
21:52
the top.
21:54
Okay.
21:54
So three. That's not That's not that
21:56
Yeah,
21:56
it's probably the same as the 17,
21:58
honestly. and uh one built-in speaker at
22:00
the top and no at no speaker at the
22:02
bottom.
22:03
People are also losing their mind about
22:04
the um the off-center USBC port
22:10
that was that was causing a major major
22:12
meltdown. Yeah, I mean, I'll admit I
22:15
wasn't a fan of the offc center USBC
22:16
port when it was on the iPhone XR, but I
22:19
think it it's more obvious why it needs
22:23
to be offc center this time just because
22:24
they they have to make room for the
22:25
screen on top of it and they've only got
22:27
a few millimeters of wiggle room to play
22:30
with. So, it makes a little more sense
22:32
on this phone.
22:34
It kind of also make I I wonder whether
22:35
they they'll ditch the the port
22:38
altogether on the folding phone. Surely
22:40
that's a limiting factor, right? That's
22:43
got to be one of the factors in
22:45
determining how how thin it is. And I
22:48
wonder if you if you got rid of it,
22:49
could you go much thinner?
22:51
Only one of the halves of the phone has
22:52
to have the port on it. Maybe the maybe
22:54
the other flipping part that flips out
22:56
or like the lid of it is going to be
22:58
even thinner than that.
22:59
Well, do you think it would be
23:01
Yeah, I would have thought they would
23:02
have been symmetrical, but you know,
23:04
maybe
23:05
there's no reason why it has to be
23:06
symmetrical.
23:07
True enough, right?
23:09
Yeah. It'd be it would feel weird in
23:11
your hand if the two sides weren't the
23:12
same thickness, wouldn't it?
23:14
Yeah. And it would it would be, you
23:16
know, completely lopsided, wouldn't it?
23:18
It would it wouldn't be balanced.
23:21
Well, Apple doesn't have any problem
23:22
making phones that are lopsided and when
23:25
you when you when you sit them on a
23:26
table anyways,
23:28
right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw people
23:29
doing the the bump the wiggle test or
23:32
whatever it is, you know, they put it
23:33
down on the on a on a flat surface and
23:34
of course the thing's wobbling
23:35
everywhere like a weeble.
23:38
Yeah. And uh the pro the one thing did
23:40
you talk about the price? 9999
23:42
$9.99 takes the spot of the 16 Pro.
23:45
Well, by the time you add the battery
23:46
though, it's actually going to be 1,100.
23:50
Same price. Yeah.
23:50
Yeah. I wonder what percentage of people
23:52
uh go ahead and put that in the in the
23:54
bag.
23:56
And the strap
23:57
85%.
23:58
I don't know this. I'll be very curious
24:00
to see if the straps catch on.
24:03
Yeah. So, I guess I should say I I
24:05
ordered a 17 aired to review and I
24:07
bought all the accessories. the battery,
24:09
the strap, the clear case, the bumper
24:11
case. It actually adds up to like what
24:13
$13,400 after tax. Like
24:16
these things are expensive.
24:18
Yeah. Yeah.


