CarPlay Ultra is here + Major features coming at WWDC! (CultCast #699)

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no audio you know you know what a podcast without audio is
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really can they hear me okay perfect everyone but the host that's
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awesome uh airphone is working allegedly it's
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it's it's it should should be ready in 45 minutes or less we're mere moments away oh wait did that fix it moments
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away it like all of a sudden just fixed itself all of a sudden just fix it thank you
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they can hear they can actually hear me now so I appreciate that great uhhuh uh hey everyone oh man coming on a
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little bit late today shocker we are having some technical issues most of them on Louiswis's end if
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only he could learn to get it together the show would run so much more smoothly if only he would upgrade to the M4
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MacBook Air hey from his crusty and dusty ancient M1 crusty dusty dusty i
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tell you what man that thing worked fine over the weekend although trying to edit a photo in in the middle plane seat
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trying to crop one was just impossible i I couldn't move the trackpad far enough
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without hitting someone they can get a you get a 15-inch MacBook Air now yeah
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that won't fit on the seat will it or the the seat tray table what they call seat seat back table seat back tray what
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the seat 14 inch is probably perfect for that though that thing is like so it's just amazing what a difference in
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portability you know just trimming off the two inches makes and you know what you can have a gigantic ultra wide
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screen with your MacBook Air if you get a Vision Pro that's true for only for
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$4,000 plus a new computer did you read that article i think it was what is it the Wall Street Journal today their
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their long like like My favorite quote was one person says
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you know it's like total regret after owning it the Vision Pro for like a year and a half yeah the last thing we need
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is more Vision Pro h it didn't immediately make Apple two trillion
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dollars it's a failure this was all people saying I don't use it at all i paid 3,500 bucks for it i
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used it four times in the past month uh I I resold it for 1,800 bucks just I You
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can buy those for 1,800 bucks wow let's let's let's look i know we haven't started the show yet but let's It was a
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it was a sad sad story let's take a look here uh Vision one guy says "Oh I was
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tried I tried watching a movie on a plane and it was really terrible because then they wouldn't when the drink cart
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went by they would just pass me by i couldn't get a drink." I'm like "That's a deal breaker come on now." Okay we're
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going to look at sold listings for the Vision Pro couldn't get that tiny cup of water that's good enough for one sip and
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then nothing else and you have to wait another half hour hey man fella can dehydrate inside of 45
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minutes you miss miss one round of the the drink cart man woo not only that you might you might sober up so for the base
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level Vision Pro and the this one includes a travel case too uh 1,800
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bucks for the auction price uh that one was it
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looks like that one was an auction price which I don't know why people still do bids because it always goes for lower
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when you do that the only people that bid are people that want to pay less so but the fixed prices this one's you know
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two grand here's another one oh this one has Oh this one went for 2500 but it had
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more um storage let's do 256 we'll just make an apples to apples comparison here and see
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what the base models are going for so okay yeah so about 2,000 bucks 21,100 if
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you're lucky um yeah so about two grand 24,00
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2,300 this one has some accessories so just for a base level with or the base
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model with no extra accessories you're looking at about $2,000 so that's not terrible or you
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could buy a reasonably useful secondhand car dude what car are you going to buy
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for two grand chitty chitty bang bang you know you know those those uh those
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like mopeds they ride around India you might be able to get one of those for 2K i'll just say this i bought my Prius for
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$2,000 but I bought it for $2,000 in December 2019 the situation I understand
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is very different than Oh yeah dude used car market is is ridiculous never in my life have I ever actually felt like it
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was worth buying a new car but used cars are so expensive especially the used
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cars that you'd actually want like if you want to buy some old Hyundai good luck for a deal my Prius looks like a
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$2,000 car hey man in college I had a car that cost
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me $750 the thing was primer gray all the
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paint had come off of it um it was a Oh man i forget the model it was some
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Americanmade clunker and it was a full-on grandpa car but I'll tell you what that car had the most comfortable
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interior I have ever sat in my entire life it was 100% burgundy like the entire thing Ford Crown Victoria just
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based on your description oh well yours was No it wasn't it was um LTD dude I
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can't even remember was that a Cadillac copy of it or It wasn't a Cadillac a Cadillac i feel like like it was like it
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might have been like a Buick or something monte Carlo and and the and like like the cushions it power
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everything first of all so power seats but and the cushions were burgundy and they had like like three or four inches
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of just absolute feather top you know it's like you sit in that thing and your buns have never been so comfortable in your entire life like it that thing was
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a sleeper hit you could drive and it was turbocharged so if I had if if I had the
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room for another car in my life I would absolutely get like a 1981 Mercury Grand Marquee like 25 ft long sitting on a
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sofa oh those were classics you know measure your economy in gallons per mile
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oh yeah oh yeah you know but that's that's back in the days where gas was like you know 99 cents a gallon so this
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car I don't even remember how many miles it had on it like 170,000 and it had like this vinyl top like this aesthetic
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that they attached to the whole thing and before I owned it it looks like it was baked off by like the UV rays and it
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had like strands of cloth coming off it that would like wave when you would drive it and then the crows started like
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picking at it to like get nest material so it just kept getting worse and worse i'd come out in the morning and the
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whole thing would be covered with crows they're like picking stuff off of it and it looked like Big E from um um oh go
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what's the name of the movie with um Bill Murray Kingpin where he has like
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that hairpiece that you don't know is a hairpiece until he get he gets like frazzled at the end of like that bowling
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competition and the whole thing starts coming off like wispully waving in the wind and stuff that's what the cop top
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of that car looked like that thing was anointed by God i had zero problems with that car and eventually I got another
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one and within a week of me giving it to somebody because they needed a car the
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transmission went out and he had to drive the thing home backwards
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they don't make them like that anymore i called it the silver bullet man oh man
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I don't miss that car at all but it definitely it definitely was good for
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the time should we go ahead and talk about some Apple stuff i feel like we should go ahead and dive in it's a crazy idea yeah all right we got a level remix
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here we got Hobox sleepy Spirits on the way to work which I love it's on the way to work one
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o'clock in the UK or something all right no other direction
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hawaii maybe Australia japan it's one o'clock it's one o'clock did you say one
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o' some people work second shift i guess that's true night shift maybe
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all right uh let's go ahead and go live shall we
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um I think we got everything rolling and we got all sorts of stuff to talk about here today and we're way late oh my gosh
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I can't believe how late we are okay let's go ahead and queue up Mrs you know who oh Mrs
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d oh Mrs [Music] d oh my dear i'm also a big fan of big
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cars oh really Mrs d oh yes my dear i like to make love to El Kaney in the back seat
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of every time it gets us every time i'm always surprised Mrs d no one wants to hear about that look at poor Lewis he's
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ready to hurl we don't want to hear anymore about your adventures with LK but I am glad to hear that he's alive because I thought that wasn't the case
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if you don't mind I'll get this thing rolling we'll get the show moving in three wait a second
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no I almost forgot my critical piece and three
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two hello and welcome to the whole cast best 30 plus minute app conversation you're gonna hear all week long i'm your
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host Air join me today when he goes to conventions you'll see the other tech editors ducking into rooms jumping into
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nearby garbage receptacles and churning and just running to avoid his piercing
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gaze just another one reason why we call him the toughest editor in tech louis Wallace is here yeah the piercing gaze
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it's it's it's a lot of squinting as well just trying to see anything also
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with us if you thought his Apple tech was old wait till you see his pen made from the long feather of a goose and
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dipped in iron gall ink he's a writer for Cult griffin Jones is here
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good evening the actual pen that I carry out of the house dayto day is just a basic Pilot G2 oh I I've been eyeing the
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um the the Mark 2 pen by Studio Neat but until I am willing to spend $75 on a pen
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I'm just carrying a regular old gel pen you know what I got here i've got something that you're going to cover
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tremendously you know what that is see that little logo on there it's not in focus oh is that the uh Apple pen that
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you can buy at an Apple store yep it sure is and actually it's funny
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um microphone on top no but that would be cool this thing is made out of aluminum
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it's got a wonderful twist here at the top but you know what i I thought this pen was really cool it writes terrifically by the way uh but this pen
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is one that you can just buy on Amazon amazon works with this company i called I think they're called Retro 51 and they
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make this pen and then Apple just screen prints or however they did this UV inks
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their logo on top of it i think this specific design might be unique to Apple because they make them in like space
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gray and some other colors um Starite they might make Same thing with the same
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thing with the water bottles that they sell at the uh Apple Park store as well they're just like regular like metal
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water bottles that I think some particular brand makes and you can buy anywhere but only Apples has the Apple
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logo on it is it high quality though that's the key it is it's really nice okay it It doesn't actually store a lot
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of water though like my water jug that I keep around at the house is I think a good I don't know 48 or 64 hours looks
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like it belongs to the Mandalorian what is that made out of what that thing looks like it's been through a space
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battle look at that thing even worse marching band okay it's kind of like the smart battery pack that thing has a its
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own hump you know at least Apple whatever it's called has like high quality accessories
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like third party accessories because one of the things that really just bugs me about what Disney does I don't know if
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you if you've ever been on like shop disney.com they've got a like a lot of really cool stuff but a lot of like their merchandise is made by third
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parties or seems to be made by third parties and it's just like cheap chachkis that they've screen printed a
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logo onto and you get it and it's like super low quality plastic gonna last you a week but then it has like some kind of
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Disney affiliation with it so at least Apple does it right like this is a terrific pen um I think it cost me like
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30 bucks and shout out to Captain Dr zack Hicks a longtime listener who went to the Apple location and asked me if u
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I wanted to pick up any gear so I got this and um I also got a shirt yeah
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retro 51 oh see it's carved right into the pen absolutely a beautifully writing
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pen um I'm not usually a pen guy but I actually really do like this thing just flows so smoothly and also Lewis you
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twist it open like this boom right into the neck if um one of those editors is not giving you the due respect that you
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want or deserve it's like can also be used as a weapon i like it probably also put like a poison dart in here and right
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into their neck drag them to your house your basement do
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whatever you do to them in there never to return all right look wow we got a
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lot of apples let's just let's put let's put it off even more should we just continue procrastinating uh today's
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episode is sponsored by Insta 360 a leader in 360 degree action camera
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later in the show it's my favorite 360 camera and uh I don't have one but I wish I did and I'm thinking about buying
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one um let's go ahead and dive into the show this week should we start off with what to expect from the 20th anniversary
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iPhone you know how many years away is this Louis uh what a novel idea 2027
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yeah all right so not too far you've got two years to dream multiple reports are pointing to a real
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redesign coming the 20th anniversary i like to hear that it's weird man it's like after so many
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years of the same suddenly it sounds like this year's going to be a big one next year's going to be a big one and then then the 20th century or 20th
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century 20th anniversary iPhone um supposedly you know front-facing camera will be under the display so there won't
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be a dynamic island which frankly I'm not sure I'm excited about uh well they can still have the functional sorry to
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interrupt you right out of the gate they can still have the uh the dynamic island to be like a status area with like
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running timers and background stuff even if it doesn't have to be like a physical black cutout at the top of the screen so
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then what's the uh what's the real I guess camera in the daylight yeah they
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just can make the whole thing go away when it doesn't need to be there holy crap i can't even find the video
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i'm sorry i'm sorry to get weird here but I I like Did I close the window i I
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hate to break it to you Louis but you got weird long before this broadcast oh god this new thing is weird
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um anyway I continue talking assuming everything's going fine let's see uh so
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one of the sources for this is ET News which I believe is Korean news source uh they reported this
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week that Apple is prepping an undisplay camera for 20 20th anniversary iPhone and uh somebody may have heard from a
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reporter at Bloomberg called Mark German reported over the weekend that the anniversary iPhone will come quote
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without any cutouts in the display i would I I would love that
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i don't see why people get all that excited about but whatever u I want to have a full screen display without any
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compromises louis that's the future I want to live in do you feel compromised i mean when the light is shining
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directly on it and have to see the camera sitting there yeah I do and like
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the weird UI changes that developers have to accommodate because there's a freaking camera sitting at the top of
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the phone in the middle of the screen yeah I do okay you know it's like you're watching a movie on your TV at home and
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it there's like a camera in the middle it's like what what is it doing there you know I shouldn't have a freaking
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camera in the middle of my screen these are all compromises and and Apple
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uh you know has a lot of ingenuity and makes it work for sure and has actually made them useful but would I rather them
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not be there yes i'm glad to hear that i didn't
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realize you had such a issue with the thing that's why I just passionate yeah probably should have given you this uh
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story to talk about let's see uh so the other thing this stuff from ET news is
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it's kind of technical and I don't even really understand it you you guys probably know exactly what this is uh they're talking about other things uh
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related to that that Apple's working on that you know may or may not show up in
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these things like uh most specific plan they say is the introduction of an OLED display driver
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chip DDI based on the finfet process are you familiar with that oh yeah never
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heard of it i had never heard of it either not sure exactly what it is it's some kind of way of putting it so it has
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like a fin and it anyway changes the way it works and I guess it makes it more uh
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efficient let's see um in addition they're they're talking about pure silicon batteries which I'd
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never heard of underd display cameras which and and a quote four-sided bending
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display which sounds bizarre um and they're basically talking about
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Apple's future you know the things that they're looking into with various people in the supply chain thing that they're
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trying to figure out if they're going to be able to work uh they said pure silicon batteries are technology that can dramatically increase energy density
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and extend battery life by using 100% silicon as a cathode instead of graphite which I thought is that what a solid
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state battery is is that just another term for the same thing because that's been an impending battery technology
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that's supposed that's always like two years away for electric vehicles but um I think it's actually only two years
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away this time because automators are saying "Oh yeah we'll actually have them in the next few years." But yeah I it's
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funny i read a story about that this week too so that sounds like that's going to be a actual big boost to
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electric cars when that comes about so uh let's see here uh what else did they
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say udc is had to blah blah you know we already talked about that under display thing and then four-sided
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bending which just sounds nutty uh it it's to quote implement a full screen
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without a bezel okay i do like that love that and then
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so uh Mark German described it as a all screen curved device and I think that
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confused a lot of people like when you say curved phone does that just mean like it's like banana shaped like it has
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actually arked or but I think this is describing that like the um the panel
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will be be curved like around the edges and sort of like into the side of the phone so that you can have the entire so
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that you can eliminate the bezel entirely so that like it'll it'll still be like you know mostly flat you know
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with like the really subtle like you know half a millimeter curve on the edge but basically the whole phone will be
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pixels you won't have a black border around the edge at all and that sounds like that's what they with that isn't
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there already like doesn't uh Samsung or somebody already make like a a display that kind of wraps around the edges
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i remember there was the Samsung Galaxy Edge I thought did that one that had like and yeah you know like you could
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interact with the edges like a little marquee bar on the edge that did stuff i I I don't follow Samsung so closely that
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I know what even has happened to that device or if there is like a more recent version but I do remember that specific
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device they cut that feature a while ago because it was completely pointless and kind of a gimmick and they recently brought back Samsung we knew that part
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wait a minute a feature that's pointless and a gimmick what they recently reused
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the Galaxy Edge name but I don't think the new S25 Edge has like the the Edge
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as it used to be i think it's just their the name that they brought back to now their super thin model i'm looking at it
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right now you're right that is a super thin phone but yeah like the Edge naming
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convention remains but the reason that they called it the Edge is completely gone
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a nice phone actually yeah the other thing Gur said in that uh X post on
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Wednesday was quote "It's called the Glass Wing internally because of its display and design." A glass wing i
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think he didn't he have a picture of a was it he him that had the picture of a glasswing butterfly or moth or whatever
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the hell it is i don't know but can't even remember as you said Glass Wing you looked truly
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insane your eyes get all big and bulgy i I love hearing these code code names
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for Apple products i really do it just makes it so interesting to me i I even if it means nothing I find it
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fascinating all right well look you know what makes me happy about
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the story is that we've got some actual cool updates coming to the iPhone because it's kind of been puttering
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along here for a little while without any visual changes at all and people say
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like "Oh eliminating the bezels that's such like a such like a non important thing." But you know what i look back at
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my iPhone 12 and I'm like "Those bezels are big and it does look annoying and it does make it look old." And then you go
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back to an iPhone 10 and it's like "Wow we thought this was an all screen iPhone that's got like it's got huge bezels
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around the side." Like the bezels really do make it feel old in a way that it's hard to like put your finger on yeah I
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agree i mean my Apple Watch Ultra has pretty big bezels for a watch and I usually use the um the clock that has a
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black background so you don't notice it but anytime you use like one of the modes where the actual clock has a color
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then you are like "Whoa." Like the bezels on this thing are actually quite substantial and you know it's just crazy
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because my my Sony television I mean the bezel is probably I don't know 4
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millimeters if that 3 millimeters it seems like it's actually much thinner
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than my Apple Watch is um thinner than what yeah dude it's it's it's ridiculous
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you mean in comparison right have a 4 mm bezel i I don't know what the actual uh
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thickness of the bezel is but it's practically non-existent it's it's it's hardly there like it's a full screen like edgetoedge experience
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and uh might just be a perspective thing since you sit much farther away than from your TV than I presume you do from your Apple Watch i don't think so
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because I I clean my TV and I go up right in front of it and man arms you know so okay I'm going to measure it
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since you guys are trying to poo the dimensions of my bezels your bezel
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maximum arm length well you know I usually sit like you know 25 feet away
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from it and I can barely notice the bezels from there i can also barely see the TV but I don't want to injure my
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eyes my my mom told me if I sat too close that you know I might go blind so I've always taken that to heart okay I
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didn't and look at look at me now yeah what could go wrong
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well I probably need glasses too man i'm starting to I'm I'm I'm fighting they had television when you were a kid
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what's that well yeah i mean it was they're called paintings
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the television that we had was probably about the size of your house for And then the screen was like Well the TV was
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right the screen was was as big as a house but the Yeah the screen was tiny
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had to get up close to be able to see it especially with all the static yeah right i kind of missed remember that oh
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dude i remember turning trying to get the TV channel to come in exactly right
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that wasn't actually that long ago like um I remember watching the finale of Lost over a TV antenna and because it's
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Ohio it happened to be like stormy that day and so it kept like going fuzzy and so we were like uh it's good enough so
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we don't want to mess with it but like you know as soon as a commercial break would come on it's like okay let's fiddle with this and try to get a
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clearer picture so weird man it was not that long ago you're right
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all right well let's move on and oh I was going to mention something about your uh video fidelity there Griffin but
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it just got better so I'm going to guess that it's probably just your uh connection which you know by for those
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of you who who don't necessarily listen every week first of all shame on you uh second of all um we switched to a new
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streaming platform which we're definitely still getting used to which is why we were like an hour late um you
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know going live today and so like there's little things that happen behind the scenes and I'm like uh oh is this whole thing about to go down but it just
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fixed itself so I'm going to just continue on like everything's fine let's talk about CarPlay one of my favorite
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things I I think I for I forgot the name of the unit that I I talked about in
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under review which dude we should we should probably do again sometime soon um it was my
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first it was my first CarPlay experience getting to actually use it day in day
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out and uh I've completely fallen in love with it i absolutely love CarPlay like being able to have a map up and
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just be on all the time is so useful when you're just puttering around town and going on trips and stuff and then
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you can also just use your phone as you still have the map up and plus you get like a super cool like wideangle map anyway I'm not here to talk about that
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device which I can't even remember the name of but I am continuing to love oh I need a drink of water hold on
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i think it was called the CarPod Go i do think that was the name of the
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device the the Carpod Go and uh sounds legit and dude it's like a it's like a
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Chinese company it costs 200 bucks or something and I was like for sure this
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thing's not going to work well works great it's like been almost bulletproof since since I've owned it like as soon
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as you turn the car on um your phone connects the map loads and it it it's uh
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60 fps um uh so the map actually moves
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you know pretty smoothly it's not perfect it's not it's not promotion but it's pretty good um in any case it looks
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like the future of CarPlay that we've all wanted is is is finally about to
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arrive carplay Ultra is um is about to
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make its landing so you may remember this it was debuted in in uh 2022 at
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WWDC and CarPlay Ultra was like an evolution of like the regular CarPlay
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experience where instead of having just like one little screen like I have it could take over multiple panels in your
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dashboard across like your whole screen and basically be like the interface between you and the car and um that is
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finally going to be landing in in a in an actual real car um it looks like
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Aston Martin is going to be the first to roll it out um the system uh let's see
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with the system available for new vehicle orders starting immediately okay so Aston Martin models featuring the brand's next generation infotainment
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system will receive CarPlay Ultra um through a dealer provided software update in the coming weeks oh that's
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interesting so it's okay so I wonder if this is only for their brand new cars or
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if it's going to apply to older cars as well it's probably just new cars but may
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not be available when you buy your car existing Aston Martin models will be able to use it with a Yeah software update oh yeah but but I think they said
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that they're going to roll it out globally across all of their cars throughout the next year okay and it's gonna it's going to be across all of
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their all of their models oh wow dude that's bonkers that would be really cool apple said that Hyundai I mean Hyundai
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Kia and Genesis are also committed to supporting the platform sadly the car models that you would actually want uh
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Honda Toyota nowhere to be found um you didn't say Ford
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they they were announced previously in 2022 although they they were not mentioned by name in this particular
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update but I think they they said that like Ford Honda
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um who else jaguar Land Rover they they were all committed as well okay i I wonder
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did you say Honda oh you did okay good because But but not just for CarPlay but
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for CarPlay Ultra yeah CarPlay Ultra oh dude that that's that's that's game over for me that could actually make me want
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to buy a Honda i I just The infotainment systems in all these cars are so bad
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they should just let Apple do it not Not a single car company should be doing like their own dashboard design or
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infotainment design they should all just use CarPlay i I think and if you're not um if if you don't remember exactly what
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CarPlay Ultra is like the idea is that no longer is your phone handling all the
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interface and then just like using your car screen as basically an external display uh there are different modes so
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some of it is still handled by by your phone but some of it some of the user interface is generated like on the car
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itself and also there's another mode where it can intermix user interface
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between CarPlay and your car's own native UI so there was a there was a um
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Top Gear video that we'll also link in the video description that we embedded in this article that walks through it
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all and you can see like you know the guy's going through like the um car infotainment settings and like you know
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he gets to the panel where you're like adjusting sound system settings and then it like pops through a user interface
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that's clearly like different from the rest like from the car's own user interface that they didn't adapt to CarPlay to but like it has all the
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vehicle functions in there like you can have a Apple style CarPlay user interface for adjusting your climate
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control settings your radio settings like actual FM radio they brought back
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the the iTunes radio app icon just for that feature which is a fun little detail
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like and it's all customizable you can have there's a mode where you can have um just like you can have on standby on
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your iPhone you can have like two like widgets on your center console screen if you want i can have like a reminders
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widget or a calendar widget apple just does this so well man i'm just scrolling through the pictures by the way if you
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are listening you can always watch the recording at um watch.cast.com that will take you to our
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YouTube playlist where you can see um our episodes and and go back and watch them it just looks so beautiful and
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there are so many companies that design that lack the design talent and the UX experience to make something like this
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and actually make it something that you would want to use like our our minivan we have a Honda Odyssey honda has like
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their own you know Honda infotainment system it's horrible an absolute joke like we never even use it it's so bad
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it's unusable i mean even like the CD like playing functionality is so clunky
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you know like you press a button and it takes like a second for the CD to SK it just the whole thing is I mean the whole
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thing is a farce they put it in there because they have to they got to give you some way to control your car but it's not actually something that you
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would want to use now we have um level remix from the chat no car company wants another company controlling their cars
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or their experiences i think that's 100% true but I also think that CarPlay is going to become so good is already so
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good that it would actually um go into the buying decision for somebody and they might actually be willing to pay
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more for a car that supports it or not buy your car at all if it doesn't support al I can attest to that like I
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was interested in the Hyundai IonX6 and knowing that um Hyundai has signed up
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for CarPlay Ultra and you know but the possibility of them adding that in the next few years makes me more inclined to
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buy that car i was kind of like you know maybe I'll buy it maybe I won't i know Highandai is one of those companies that
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like sells out a bunch of your you know user data and like location data to third party brokers maybe I won't buy
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the IonX even though it looks cool but you know they're signing up for CarPlay Ultra that starts to push me back in the
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direction again yeah man i when I was thinking about buying a new car before I bought my Subaru which we'll find out if
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if that was a huge mistake or not um I was actually thinking about buying a Honda Civic with a Honda Civic hatchback
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dude the new the new ones look so cool i I I just couldn't get myself to pl $30,000 for for The interior design on
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that is just It's a beautiful car i agree and uh I was actually thinking about getting a model with um well a
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higher price model with more of like the tech features just because it featured wireless CarPlay as opposed to like the
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wired version which is completely such a money grab because they could just enable it so easily um and I was willing
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to perk down the money and get get a more expensive model just just to have that feature and have like the extra and and I would play more pay more for for
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CarPlay Ultra absolutely would because I I think it's going to be so beautiful to look at and to have something that
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integrates with your phone it's good that it's running on the car because the last thing you want is for your Wi-Fi connection to cut out and for your
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speedometer to disappear or your steering wheel to stop working
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how do you feel about the name CarPlay Ultra it's confusing because it sounds like 4K stupid
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yeah i feel like Apple thinks we like the name Ultra more than we do because
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you know what Apple Watch Ultra Apple Watch Ultra that that makes sense for that particular product but everywhere
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else that they use the word Ultra just makes it confusing and worse like I constantly I mean I follow the Mac for a
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living and I still get mixed up whether uh M4 Ultra or M4 Max is the better one
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um yeah Apple like CarPlay Ultra I'm not I'm not a sold on that
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yeah i mean again to me it indicates like fidelity and because that's what ultra is typically used for in my mind
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um although we obviously have ultra hardware as well i feel like they should have called it like CarPlay Plus to
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indicate like it has more features than normal CarPlay well then it sounds like a subscription that sounds like Yeah that sounds like a subscription sorry L
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carplay 2 that's what people were calling it before and that's a good name yeah but you could have CarPlay 2 without having CarPlay you could have
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CarPlay Ultra well maybe not can you have CarPlay Ultra if it's not the version
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that expands across all the different screens like isn't there because that feature is part of the next generation
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of CarPlay and I feel like you could have CarPlay without having CarPlay Ultra no I don't know if I I just completely
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confused Louis he's about to blue screen i feel like if your your car either supports CarPlay or CarPlay Ultra all
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right i don't know i feel like that was said in the video but All right maybe what were you gonna say Louisis
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i don't even remember now i can't remember do you know there's smoke coming out of your ears that whole CarPlay
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conversation we use the car the word CarPlay about 45 times i do love it though yeah I I love it too i've been
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using it for years now but it's still it still suffers from Siri i mean just
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yesterday I was driving along and I said this is what I said play Long Time play
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the song Long Time by Boston and it and it says it says now playing Long Time
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Live by Boston and I said I said horrible
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play Hey Siri play longtime live sorry
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play long time by Boston studio version and then it it says now playing you know
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uh I spoke the wrong words uh it it it starts saying okay now playing something
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complete gobbledegook nothing at all like what I just said but it's like you know Tripping Down by the river by Lil E
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Boston and I'm like what in the world is and it not only that but I I tried it
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again said just play the play the version of the song on the studio album it cannot parse any kind of actual
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information and it played the exact same rap song by some rapper I've never heard
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and it's that is like you're driving down the road trying not to wreck and
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talk about steam and smoke coming out of your ears my god it's just the most frustrating thing in the world when that
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thing starts doing something that's completely ridiculous i'm not going to let you bait me loose you're trying to
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bait me into a die tribe about Siri and just how bad it is i'm with you i agree
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with everything you just said but I'm not going there people keep talking about the you know making it better it's
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like how about just make it not horrible i mean that'd be a great start i mean God in your music library to play a
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radio station or ask Louis is about to go to it i can't
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make it stop how do I stop it it won't stop okay i came home came home from the
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vacation and it's been playing in my house for like five days in a row surprised the cat didn't lose its mind
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uh well they started off that way so I'm not sure how much is left big fan of Boston
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hey look before we move on um I want to tell people about the new Insta 360 X5
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flagship camera so let me uh bring that up plus poor Louis is about to lose it
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look at him his eyeballs turn it off is to like YouTube god almighty
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oh man the Insta 360 it just keeps or the X series cameras they they just keep
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getting better you can shoot first point later isn't that just a catchy slogan
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with 360 video capturing everything around you just hit record find your focus and choose the best angles later
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with AI powered refframing tools in the Instep 360 app um it's really kind of
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magical i know that these 360 cameras seem kind of like esoteric and it's like what do I do with this thing but they're
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so simple that's the beauty of them is you don't have to worry about what you're pointing it at you literally just put this thing in your hand or on a
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stick and uh by the way our our listeners get like the free selfie stick
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with it and you just I mean it doesn't matter which direction up down left right and then afterwards you you you
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load up the video on on your app and it's like peering through a portal of into your video you just hold your phone
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in front of your face and as you move the camera left right up down the video moves with it you're like literally in
39:32
in the middle of the video looking around and you can use that to edit the video so to look at different things as
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the video timeline is progressing you can point it to different things it's incredible it also has like AI features that will edit the video for you and
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find the most interesting stuff in your video um the new X5 um is the first to
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feature 8K which is bonkers it has enhanced um low light performance and um
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a longer 185 minute battery life for all day shooting i think one of the better parts of the new camera is also the user
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replaceable lenses cuz you're going to be taking this thing Oh by the way it's waterproof um you'll be taking this thing wherever you go and sometimes kind
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of like any action camera uh you might drop it and with previous versions that
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was something that you might have to send in to actually get repaired but this new one has user replaceable lenses
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so it's going to add a whole new level of longevity to the camera because if you ever drop it or anything you'll actually be able to fix it yourself um I
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think more than anything else though like I really love the look of the video that's created by the Insta3X5
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you can go on YouTube and and and see people who have used it and uh have created um like review v videos on it it
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just creates a really beautiful image i think that's obviously one of the most important things it also um I'll tell
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you how you can get a free selfie stick when you order um and when you put this thing on a selfie stick it somehow is
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able to just completely edit out the stick so the video that you're taking doesn't have a stick in it so you can
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just be holding it up and it just looks like a camera's following you around everywhere you go and and uh the stick
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is completely gone by the way I know that some people think that they that 360 cameras have like a weird like
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rounded video look to it but the software lets you completely dial that out like you can make it look you know
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16 by9 just like you do with your iPhone and have like a normal looking video so if you want to have like that 360 look
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you can also do that but you you don't need to do it so I encourage you if any
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of this sounds good to you um you can um score a free 45 inch invisible selfie
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stick with your Insta360 X5 purchase just head to
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store.instre.com and use the promo code cult um at checkout um this is available
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for the first 30 purchases only um and again it's insta or
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store.instre.com store.inst insta360.com and use the promo code coltcast at checkout you'll get the um
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free 45 inch invisible invisible selfie stick which you'll absolutely want i I promise you if you have a 360 camera
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you'll want the stick cuz it just makes so many more shooting scenarios possible to you um and you can do way more with
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it and it's invisible so be careful try not to lose it it's best to maybe put
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some tape on there or something that will help you see it because if you don't and you set it down boom it's gone
42:33
forever right until you sit on it by accident or something trip over it I'm sure uh all right Lewis let's move on
42:42
lewis I'm taking the next one well yeah but I was going to say "All right Lewis it's time to send it to Griffin."
42:47
Telling Lewis that I'm going to take the next story well I was just letting him know where we're going first so he didn't feel confused i thought maybe it
42:53
was a chance for me to offer up for sale a slightly used HomePod mini well you
42:59
don't want your HomePod mini anymore i think just I had to unplug it oh it's going bonkers it's time to wipe it Louis
43:06
when the thing starts going berserk you got to just wipe it won't play what I want it to play won't stop playing
43:11
things when I don't want it to play that's not the HomePod's fault that's Siri nothing we can do about that okay let's talk about What are we talking
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about here Griffin are we talking about Apple has unveiled some major accessibility upgrades coming in iOS 19
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okay so continuing their annual tradition they pre-announced everything coming in iOS 19 Mac OS 16 and Vision OS
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3 related to their accessibility features for global accessibility awareness day uh so I'm just going to
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run down some of the top things there are some honestly really great features in here that everybody is probably going
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to get some use out of apple will introduce accessibility nutrition labels to App Store product pages kind of like
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the uh privacy nutrition labels that they have that'll tell you which features an app supports before you
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download it like um voice over voice control larger text dark mode and
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reduced motion it'll say like supports dark interface if if that feature is
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available so a lot of people probably like that this is a big one uh for the
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Mac the magnifier app from the iPhone is going to be on the Mac in Mac OS 16
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that's cool this will let you uh zoom into things in your area um using the camera so presumably you can use the
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webcam but like really what you'll want to do is use continuity camera from your iPhone or you can plug in any USB camera
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and you can point this camera anywhere you want even use desk view if you have a Mac that supports that and you can
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have multiple cameras simultaneously and then just like zoom into things all around you like um the use case I I read
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somebody talking about on Mashadon was um you know when they were in high school they had you know vision problems
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and so they always had to you know sit in the front row of the classroom and squint and like you know ask the teacher
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to write everything really big on the whiteboard well if they had a magnifier on their Mac they could just you know point their camera at the screen and you
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know Yeah man see things much better apple put out a video showcasing that
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this person sitting way back in a like a you know college lecture hall and
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putting a a phone on the top of their MacBook and zooming on on the chalkboard and stuff oh yeah i mean stuff like that
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is life-changing uh Braille access lets you launch apps take notes do math
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calculations see live captions and more from your iPhone with a uh connected braille display that's an awesome thing
45:36
I didn't know existed but you know that's I feel like learning Braille would be so hard like just knowing be
45:42
very motivated though yeah I guess that's true but like just feeling like dots to communicate let that just sounds
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tremendously challenging sorry go ahead um accessibility reader is kind of like
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reader mode in Safari but available for other apps and in other contexts like um
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reading PDF documents or other stuff like that like in the um Apple Newsroom
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post you know that's the thing if you ever open up a PDF on your iPhone and if you know you have to like turn it
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horizontal and zoom in really far and get the margin so you can actually read the dang thing well this is like reader
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mode for that everywhere in the operating system and that's awesome
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how does that work that sounds sounds very useful it also sounds like probably a nightmare
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to implement because I've done a little bit of reading into how the PDF file format works and it's an absolute
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nightmare so I hope Apple has done it well u the Vision Pro will now support
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uh the magnifier feature as well so you can have a zoomed in portion of your
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screen like in in the Apple included video like they they have like a screen simulation of you know looking around a
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room and then they just have like a tiny little like floating window in the middle that's like magnified it's like
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you know it's like you have like a magic like magnifier glass floating in front of you um you can zoom in your entire
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field of view that sounds pretty awesome vision OS3 will also support live
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recognition which will describe your surroundings over audio to you so as
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you're walk you can walk around presumably with like low vision and it'll like tell you you know oh there's
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a door right in front of you or it'll even read documents which is pretty
47:27
mind-blowing live captions uh previously mentioned are now coming to the Apple Watch which is pretty neat um name
47:35
recognition this is a feature where you can um it's sort of related to sound recognition where you know if a fire
47:41
alarm goes off you'll get like a notification on your iPhone if you have a hard time hearing those or you know if a doorbell rings or like you know glass
47:48
breaks or stuff like that uh that's u now getting name recognition so you can
47:54
train your phone onto what your name sounds like and it'll show an alert whenever your name is being called which
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I imagine will be handy mhm you'll be able to create a personal voice which is an existing feature that
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takes like a really long time to set up but in iOS 19 you'll be able to create a personal voice uh dictating only 10
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phrases with only a minute of processing instead of an hour or more which will
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make that feature easier to use this is this is a crazy one iphone
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and iPad will support brain computer interfaces for users with severe
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mobility disabilities i was gonna say seems like we might be kind of early on this one aren't they just starting to
48:35
roll out those kinds of features but I don't know maybe this is more popular than just having Neuralink
48:42
yeah I mean I I don't know much about this and the Apple newsroom doesn't go into much detail but that sounds crazy
48:49
and awesome so I'm glad they're working on that problem assistive access this is
48:54
also an existing feature that sort of turns your iPhone into like a Jitterbug style phone do you remember those
49:01
commercials the Jitterbug was like the flip phone that like had commercials like "Oh really big easy to read numbers
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and really easy to use user interface." It's all simple like that um whenever I hear Jitterbug I think of wham you know
49:14
what I'm saying louis Jud when I hear Jitterbug I think of like the 20s or whatever whenever that dance
49:21
was yeah you were really into the dance then weren't you oh it's great yeah back
49:26
in high school his kids all high school anyway let's continue how many we got left um
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assistant access turn your iPhone into a jitterbug thing and now there's an API for third party apps to you know uh put
49:38
their own apps in that um style and um here's the last one but certainly not
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least you can share accessibility settings between phones so if you have your phone text size set really big and
49:51
you need to borrow someone's phone and suddenly you can't read anything um you'll be able to temporarily put your
49:56
settings on their phone so that's handy as well that sounds wild dude with the uh the new um like visual assist
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features so you can see things that are farther away and like the um the features on the AirPods to help you hear
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things that are far away it's going to be an eavesdropper superpower here man you get the Vision Pro on the AirPods Pro you're going to be unstoppable the
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gossip you'll be able to collect from just like you know hundreds of feet away actually for journalism this might be good just go to like a cafe in somewhere
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in Certino and just you know set down your iPhone or adjust your AirPods you
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can hear the conversations that are happening from like 40t away time to get those scoops louis
50:36
think I just gave you the perfect visual i'm thinking maybe uh pub might be a better idea or or or that yeah or just
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hang out loiter on the edges of um like uh the headquarters of like major top companies just kind of hang out point
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your head in the right direction boom intel right there okay cool well do you
50:55
want to talk about vision OS scrolling as well i thought this meant eye rolling i was like is this a new way to be sassy
51:01
to your parents when you're wearing uh the uh vision pro of the eyesight thing on the outside
51:08
now now when you roll your eyes your eyes will roll oh that's pretty cool yeah like exaggerated cartoon style yeah
51:14
it's perfect oh no this is even better uh according to Mark German Vision OS3 will quote "Louverage the Vision Pro's
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existing eye tracking hardware and software to take the system a step further the new feature lets users
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scroll through software with their eyes." And this um eye scrolling will work across all of Apple's built-in apps
51:33
so presumably this means that like you know focusing your eyes at the bottom of a or top at a window will scroll the
51:40
contents in that direction which would be pretty awesome because I mean the the scrolling gesture
51:46
on the Vision Pro I mean you have to pinch your fingers together and like move your whole hand or your whole arm
51:52
you don't think about it and it sounds like a you know that's should be easy but it is a lot more work than just like
51:58
flicking a single thumb like what you what you're used to on a smartphone or on a Mac you know just your two middle
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fingers on a trackpad rotating your whole wrist is a lot more work and it kind of discourages
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visual interfaces on the Vision Pro from having like really big long scrolling views
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but you know although I feel like doing it with your eyes would cause like such massive eye fatigue like just just think
52:21
like you're looking down and then you're looking then you're looking up and you're trying to look down and look up and look down and look up look left i
52:27
mean your eyeballs are going to get so tired maybe they have you like you know cross your eyes for one page full full
52:33
scroll oh yeah cross your eyes for page down then go one eye up one eye down like a
52:40
lizard there's definitely be some shortcuts built in there it reminds me of the movie The Jerk do
52:45
you remember when he designed those sunglasses with like the nose bridge that came down and it like drawed
52:50
people's eyes to like the middle of their face and he created like this feature that he thought was going to be
52:56
useful but it just made everyone go crosseyed and there's like that massive lawsuit that like bankrupted him i kind of feel like we might be in
53:02
that territory here with this it's like now you're going to be using your eyes as like an input method or a control
53:08
method for like the UI when your eyes are not really designed to be used that way and I feel like you're going to be
53:13
looking for an idea pro like that's how you that's that's that's your cursor well sure but to select things is one
53:20
thing to scroll cuz like you do a lot of scrolling and sometimes you got to scroll a lot up and down and left and right right and you're like boing boing
53:26
boing boing boing like making your eyeballs go up and down did Did they say exactly how it's going to work or they
53:31
just I mean this is a rumor so we don't know how it'll work but we'll find out in presumably only four weeks at WWDC
53:38
and I'll be excited to try it out got it i'll report back i thought this was part of the uh the Apple announcement i I got
53:44
it confused oh that's fair all right well let's continue on here because we
53:50
uh have been live for 15 hours and we had two hours of pre-show just to get things working let's talk about Apple AI
53:57
well Apple's going to be using AI hopeull hopefully it's not Apple intelligence to extend iPhone battery
54:02
life we thought you guys might find this interesting let me bring up the story here you know the one thing that AI does
54:08
really well is notice patterns and there are going to be patterns buried all over
54:14
throughout our world that AI is going to surface and help us take action on or take action on our behalf once it
54:19
becomes fully self-aware you think I'm joking i don't mean self-aware like self-aware is the wrong language uh uh a
54:26
aentic so like once it's able to operate autonomously which is like the next phase of AI we're not even there fully
54:33
yet um it's going to be completely bonkers well Apple's going to be at least according to this report trying to
54:39
leverage AI to increase battery life um particularly around the iPhone 17 Air
54:45
which is supposed to be so thin that you'll probably get 15 to 20 minutes of battery life and that will be it but hey
54:51
all your friends will be impressed by your thin phone well we don't know how much battery life you'll get but you
54:56
know they're going to be making it so thin that clearly I mean I would presume that it's going to affect battery life
55:03
well to this is according to Mark German uh to create the technology part of the
55:09
Apple intelligence platform the company is using battery data that it has collected from users devices to understand trends and make predictions
55:15
for when it should lower power draw and certain or the power draw of certain applications or features uh reports
55:22
Bloomberg the same AI uh could show users on the iPhone's lock screen how long a recharge will take before their
55:28
handset battery is back at 10% and um this is like one of those great uses of
55:34
AI right for it to like comb through data comb through your historic usage and to figure out what to do and how to
55:41
set a pattern in your phone um yeah and the battery it saves will offset the the
55:47
cost and energy of running an AI local on your phone that's right the battery
55:52
life just went down to 10 minutes 10 minutes but hey it'll be thin how long but it can tell you exactly how long it'll go who needs to use their phone
55:58
for more than 10 minutes in excessive it's gonna help wean you off your your iPhone addiction uh I think that's all
56:05
the stories we got should we cruise through these these uh user voicemails real fast before we wrap up we got some
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more um we probably won't be able to go through all of these please keep them coming in we're going to keep trying to
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include these um if you want to leave us a voicemail head to
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saying that whole URL it's way too long we need to come up with something that's more memorable um like we listen to
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you.cultcast send us a message.org or something like that i'll workshop that we'll come up with
56:40
something all right let's see i do love hearing from you all by the way um so thank you for sending these in you can
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56:52
super easy and you can send us a message in like one minute just keep it short try to include a question uh we
56:59
appreciate your praise and um you know compliments but it is um it is useful to
57:06
get a question out of it as well just so we have something to talk about and not just tell us like how buff we are how veiny our arms are since we've been
57:11
working out more often I mean all that stuff is great and also true but we get plenty of those comments we don't need
57:17
more yeah that is true it's like all those comments basically okay this one is coming from
57:24
Xavier hopefully my phone's still connected let's
57:29
Hey this is uh Xavier from Australia i've been listening to you guys since high school uh and I'm now I'm finishing
57:36
my second master's degree and I have a mustache you know what i think that we
57:41
can take a mustache i think we could take direct credit for both of those things those are those are equal
57:46
accomplishments in his eyes second master degree grew a mustache that might
57:51
be in the right order too because the show's educational i have no doubt that we contributed to to to um mentoring him
57:58
in his education but the mustache that's definitely us 100% actually forgot about your show for many
58:05
years but uh I always Well now that took a downturn quickly didn't explain why the mustache took a while to come in
58:13
remembered it was hosted by a guy with a peculiar server voice and uh now I found you guys again wow welcome back anyway I
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wanted to call uh and just say I'd really love to see the revival of the Emac or an Emac like machine something
58:25
sort of affordable and good-looking and compatible as a display uh having been at university for almost a decade now
58:32
I've sort of seen the slow arasia of the Mac from the campus really as Apple's
58:37
focused on portables and transition to I think more of a luxury brand libraries
58:42
and labs are dominated by these sort of cheap plastic screens and if not simply an aesthetic nightmare um I think Apple
58:49
totally underestimates the cultural cache that education space provided that I think Steve Jobs clearly recognized
58:56
anyway let me know what you guys think love the show wow this guy's so articulate i wonder if he's looking for
59:02
a hosting job what was that as the person who's closest to school out of the three of us even though it has been
59:08
a long time for me I will say that I think that the invention of the Chromebook killed any and all hopes for
59:15
Apple to take back the education market when you can give everybody a laptop for like a hundred bucks i don't think Apple
59:24
can feasibly compete with that in any in any meaningful way yeah which is sad but um
59:29
yeah those Chromebooks they're they're they're fine but you know it's a cheap
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computer made for students and it is not beautiful it's basically just a browser
59:40
that you get to operate in and everything is done in in in the Google office suite what do they call it do
59:46
they call it the Google office suite the G Suite the G Suite okay and that's typically all they need to like do their
59:53
actual schooling and stuff so I I don't think that we'll see uh u the education
1:00:00
institutions go back to Apple because their stuff is so expensive but I would also love to see that because that's what I grew up on and they were great
1:00:05
machines and a lot of the skills that I have now I don't know that I would have had if I didn't use Apple devices and
1:00:11
and actually I think this is kind of the tragedy of it all is like the Chromebooks are really good for doing one specific thing and that is like
1:00:17
using the G Suite but like I had Apple I had pack access to like um we we didn't
1:00:22
have any eac but we had like the power Mac towers and like I could edit a video like there's a bunch of stuff that I did
1:00:29
in in my school years that there's no way you could do on a Chromebook and you have to have those tools available for
1:00:35
kids to play with in order for them to like learn those skills and I don't know if schools still have those kinds of
1:00:41
computers available anywhere or if they're only in a video editing lab or something most of the computer labs when I was in
1:00:48
school were those like cheap gray plastic Dell Optiplex computers that did
1:00:53
not inspire a joy in computing because they're running like Windows 2000 or something like that but at one school in
1:00:59
my district there was like one computer lab that was all the G3 iMacs and you
1:01:05
know that is what got me a taste of Apple for the first time because I I had
1:01:10
assumed computers were all boring Windows 2000 machines and then I got like just a little taste of Mac OS 10
1:01:15
with like the glossy aqua interface and that just sparked something inside me that is why I'm here today yeah I
1:01:22
remember getting my first Power Mac um or Power Book i was I was blown away
1:01:28
when I got that thing i I mean I had never loved a piece of technology as much as I loved that machine in my
1:01:34
entire life and I was so into just tech in general building my own PCs and all sorts of stuff but that machine was so
1:01:41
polished and they put so much effort and ingenuity into like the aesthetic and
1:01:46
the design and it was made by people who had good taste which was so unlike
1:01:51
anything that had ever existed in the PC or the computer space and I think that
1:01:56
continues to be a big part of why people love Apple stuff is because it's just beautiful i think people underestimate
1:02:02
and undervalue beauty and I think that was something that Steve Jobs really changed about technology is he wanted
1:02:09
things to function in a way that made you feel like you knew them before you even started using them but he also
1:02:14
wanted them to be beautiful and I feel like that that that sense has been woven
1:02:20
tightly into Apple and that's one of the things that they still do really well okay let's move on uh thank you for that
1:02:25
um message all the way from down under let's go over to Pavlo oh man I love that he's called back pavlo schlott one
1:02:33
of my favorite Germans and my one of my favorite German names
1:02:40
g everyone pablo oh whoops here from Germany again first off thanks a ton for
1:02:47
the brutal roast last time i feel very honored our pleasure Pablo come back
1:02:54
we'll roast you anytime has anyone here messed around with Hackintosh computers i keep reading that
1:03:01
Hackintoshing is basically dead now thanks to Apple's new M series
1:03:06
computers i've been using an 2018 Intel Nook i think it's the seventh generation
1:03:14
and it's set up to mimic a 2018 Mac Mini it's running smoothly and still holds up
1:03:20
performance-wise for the things I do no complaints here so what's your take on
1:03:26
the whole Hackintosh stuff these days thanks and bespoke
1:03:33
the last time I tried to make a Hackintosh was again right before the
1:03:38
transition to Apple Silicon which just sadly killed Hackintoshes forever but it
1:03:44
was only a few years ago that I I bought a cheap Lenovo X250 because this is a laptop that I did
1:03:51
some research on and apparently it was easy to Hackintosh and there was like a GitHub repo that like gave a bunch of
1:03:57
directions to it and still I wasn't able to quite make it work so I just threw Linux on it instead but um yeah it's
1:04:04
it's sad that Hackintoshing is over because that that was a fun little hack to get a to get a Mac when you know you
1:04:10
weren't able to afford Mac hardware what do you think what do you think Lis
1:04:16
well I mean that's the kind of thing I would ever do right i just want to buy a computer and have it work immediately i
1:04:22
don't want to spend all this time setting it up and figuring out how to work around problems yeah that's kind of
1:04:30
the same with me to be honest with you hackintoshes are dead man i don't it's not just that I don't feel like I'm as
1:04:39
interested in a Hackintosh but I see almost no content on YouTube about Hackintoshes anymore it just feels like
1:04:45
that it's just died a slow death i'd say maybe two years ago three years
1:04:51
ago i Apple made changes I think to make it even harder than it was before and it
1:04:57
also just seems like kind of a big waste of time it it's just so much easier just
1:05:02
to buy a computer that you need and and have it work for you and and work flawlessly but I also I think this kind
1:05:08
of maybe connects to something that I've thought for a while and it seems like
1:05:13
the Apple passion has been slowly dying i really think that's true yeah
1:05:19
like when we started this podcast I feel like it was alive and well and it seems
1:05:25
like since we lost Steve Jobs people's interest in Apple as a company and the
1:05:31
things that they're doing and like rumors has just kind of slowly gone away
1:05:36
and people just consider Apple to be like just another tech company and it has its fans i mean we're still here and
1:05:43
I know there there are a lot of you out there that still care about what Apple does but I feel like most of those
1:05:49
people now are just developers and I' I've said this to Louis before and he's he's like I don't think so and maybe I'm
1:05:55
wrong but it does kind of feel like the developer community is especially angry with Apple at this particular moment we
1:06:00
haven't been following this story on this show but like everything that Apple is doing in response to every piece of
1:06:07
regulation they just refuse to give any more like a more than an inch than what
1:06:13
they are legally required to and oftentimes they're doing less than what they are legally required to right like they're just doing everything they can
1:06:19
to like treat developers like a supply and not like the customers and Apple
1:06:25
loyalists and and you know the the core audience that they really are to the
1:06:31
company and I think the app store in many ways put them at odds with the
1:06:37
developer community because they're collecting such a big cut of the money that's being made there whether fairly
1:06:43
or unfairly I leave to you to decide but so I think a lot of developers ers are angry about that i mean it makes me
1:06:49
angry that if we were to to use the Apple features to like promote our podcast that Apple would want 30% of
1:06:55
that revenue i I think that's outrageous for a small business or for a small podcast or for a small developer to to
1:07:02
fork 30% over 30% they're entitled to whatever they want to do but it just creates
1:07:09
podcasting is an open network so we we don't do that we have the ability to host our podcast elsewhere and have and
1:07:14
monetize our podcast through support.cast.com but that is true developers it's like if
1:07:20
they they have no other choice apple refuses to allow competition if you don't it is if if you don't if you want
1:07:27
to play the game at all you have to take that 30% deal or nothing yeah and
1:07:33
unfortunately I think maybe what we didn't anticipate was that the entire
1:07:38
um body of web activity would move from like the open web to apps and so Apple's
1:07:45
got you where they want you it's like if you want to exist on the web you need to have an app now this is not completely
1:07:51
true but I think by and large for anyone who's just normal who wants to interact with like a company or you know a
1:07:58
website they usually use an app because it works way better most activity is happening on the phone and so you you
1:08:04
gotta have an app and if you want to charge for features well TC is there tapping his finger into his palm and so
1:08:11
you c you kind of have to exist there if if you want to be relevant and I don't think that that's a shift that we were
1:08:17
anticipating it's like the the the entire state or the entire use of the internet shifted into the hands of
1:08:22
Google and Apple with the app stores um and it's not as fun being like a fan of a company like I I started as both a fan
1:08:30
of Apple products and Apple the company but it's it's it's hard to be a fan of Apple the company when you're rooting
1:08:36
for the biggest publicly traded company in the world it's not it's not such like a fun little upstart like you know
1:08:43
passion project it's like oh I'm rooting for like the biggest company in the world like they don't they don't need me
1:08:49
they're not That's true and I also think and and I'll probably leave it at this but like
1:08:55
people connect with people people don't connect with company right so like having a figurehead like Steve Jobs gave
1:09:03
you someone that you were connected with like that is a face it's a name it's a personality and you know whether you
1:09:09
liked him or not it's like that's someone that you could have a connection with where it's like do you have a connection with like this amorphous
1:09:15
corporate entity it's like no you're just there to sell stuff and do stuff
1:09:20
but I have no emotional attachment to you necessarily as like an entity but like Steve Jobs like we loved people
1:09:27
were sad when Steve Jobs died like they showed up at Apple stores worldwide that was an event culturally that we all
1:09:34
remember but you know you don't have that with a building um so like what do
1:09:41
we what do we know about Tim Cook the person he wakes up early he likes his reading his emails he likes charts and
1:09:47
he likes diet Mountain Dew for some reason i think you just I think you just wrote his his Tinder profile for him
1:09:56
i hope he's listening to this episode squinty yeah I like to squint when I'm focused i love ch I love a good chart
1:10:03
all right uh let's do one more we're sorry we can't get through all these guys but please keep sending these um if
1:10:09
we get enough of them we might actually just do like a full-on like cast off topic which we haven't done in many
1:10:16
moons i realize I I admit that we have to get back into it um and if we get enough of these this would be actually a
1:10:21
great segment to do okay this one's from Donnie Goins
1:10:27
hi Cass team this is Donnie go what did he just say he say did you hear that hi Colt Cast team
1:10:35
did he say Cultcast i thought he said something different what did you think he said hi class team this is Donnie
1:10:41
Goens i've listened to every single show you guys have produced since the very
1:10:47
beginning wow and you guys do a great job i'm the gentleman who won the Steve
1:10:52
Jobs doll many years ago oh my gosh my little dog that was a long time ago holy
1:11:00
daughter is grown up now going off to college have a quick question wow very cool is there any new MacBook Air errors
1:11:06
coming out anytime soon or should I just go ahead and buy her a new laptop
1:11:11
getting ready for college thanks guys keep doing the great job this is an easy one well first of all hi class team this
1:11:18
is Don donny's trying to get around too there um he sounds like he's a OG member
1:11:24
of the Gov Club which is the people that have been listening since day one which was like I think 13 years ago or
1:11:29
something so it's always incredible to hear from people that have been doing that and I love hearing like yeah like
1:11:36
I'm getting my second master's degree and I just grew a mustache um or my daughter's graduating high school
1:11:42
because you know like over the like the last 13 years like we've all gone through a lot right like we've all grown up a lot there's a lot of things that
1:11:48
have happened to all of us individually and we don't necessarily talk about that stuff but like we've all kind of grown
1:11:55
older together for like this long period of time so it's cool for me to hear what has transpired in other people's lives
1:12:00
like oh my daughter graduated high school like 13 years ago his daughter was probably in grade school he's been
1:12:07
listening that whole time that's pretty cool um what do you think about the MacBook Air question Griffin i think I
1:12:12
know what you're about to say uh the MacBook the M4 MacBook Air was only announced a couple of months ago so I
1:12:19
think if there's going to be an M5 MacBook Air it would be a year from now or 10 months from now so go ahead and
1:12:24
get the M4 MacBook Air it's an excellent computer i wrote a review of it i'll link it in the description oh dude h
1:12:29
that that was like the very first thing that came to my mind i was like get the M4 MacBook Air you were about to embark
1:12:35
on a computing journey that you're not you you have not even fathomed you're about to get one of the best machines
1:12:42
ever carved out of a solid ingot of aluminium you're going to be so happy
1:12:47
with that machine that thing is going to absolutely scream and I think the prices on them have actually been coming down i
1:12:54
think I've been seeing sales on them um you know509
1:12:59
i'm not even a laptop person but you know what i I called it in the headline of my review the closest you can get to like the perfect computer and I stand by
1:13:07
that 256 GB little bit poultry in my opinion but you're getting 16 GB of RAM
1:13:12
which is far more important than than the 256 uh gigs of storage space i mean
1:13:17
I would maybe consider bumping that up a little bit but I don't even think that you need to for someone just going the storage first but um aside from that
1:13:24
like there's no bad MacBook for sale anymore anyone you buy is going to be good but you know yeah buy as much
1:13:31
storage as you as you can afford and that that'd be the first thing I would upgrade you know what I would also
1:13:36
consider is maybe just getting an iPad instead
1:13:42
like an M3 iPad with like a smart folio now I would never want to have that as my main computing machine but I feel
1:13:47
like as a student you might be able to make that work and then you have an iPad and you have like a like a laptop as
1:13:56
long as your daughter isn't getting like literally a computer science degree and requires a computer I would maybe ask
1:14:01
and see if an iPad would be uh more familiar and would serve her needs i
1:14:06
totally agree yeah and that's actually a good distinction like if she's using it for creating anything of any kind I
1:14:13
would not get unless she's an artist anything technical yeah if she's an artist that's one thing but yeah if
1:14:18
you're going to be doing any like kind of like serious typing or computer science don't don't don't get an iPad
1:14:23
any thoughts on that Louis before I hit the button i think $8.49 for one of those things is fantastic there's still
1:14:29
you can get the blue one right now 8.49 and uh you know everybody always says
1:14:35
"How many iPads say?" No a Mac there's so many things you cannot do on an iPad up to including like booking tickets on
1:14:42
certain websites you try to do it with an iPad and you'll you know just die out of frustration and and then then you
1:14:49
walk across the room and don't try it on a Mac first time it works i mean I'm sorry for some people though they get
1:14:55
For some people who've never used a computer before and aren't familiar with like a file system a computer is fr
1:15:00
gives that same amount of frustration yeah but his daughter is probably like 18 she's going to figure it out you know
1:15:07
like I mean Yeah and you you know you kind of need to figure out how to use a computer anyway most people you know
1:15:13
don't you I mean I'm sorry it's it's like a basic life skill at this point until Apple
1:15:18
intelligence for computing i've been reading stories about like actual computer science professors with their
1:15:24
incoming freshman class like they have to start at a much more basic level than they have ever before like they need to
1:15:30
teach freshmen how file systems work on their computer like how the Explorer works how the Finder works stuff like
1:15:36
that because they just use phones and iPads their whole life yeah yeah because they're I mean now today's like college
1:15:42
students were born in what 2007 all they've known are iPhones and
1:15:47
iPads that's right and if they if they haven't been given a computer from a young age that's what my kids are
1:15:52
growing up on although they do they do have the Chromebooks as well but even the Chromebook is like not really like a
1:15:57
actually you know what it's not a real computer it has a desktop though I think doesn't it it just runs everything in
1:16:03
like some kind of like Chromium engine or something but run still running web apps isn't much like a Chromebook if
1:16:08
you're only running web apps that's not much better you still don't understand like how a computer works or files or
1:16:13
file formatting like what a JPEG is it is an interesting point and a lot of kids just grew up using an iPhone or an
1:16:20
iPad and a lot of kids just grew up unable to have like actual conversations
1:16:26
with people because they're so used to just doing everything via text and so when you get them in person and you
1:16:32
expect to have like a conversation they really struggle to do that with you because they don't know how they're used
1:16:37
to texting everything and that might just be a problem of you getting older
1:16:43
and kids still being kids i'm only 24 i'm not that much older than a lot of these kids but I I don't like texting uh
1:16:51
particularly because I don't like typing on my phone i just don't like typing i'll do it if I have to but I feel like
1:16:58
it's always full of misspellings and you know turning words from normal words
1:17:05
like has into hos and all sorts of like little stupid things that iOS does on my
1:17:12
behalf i don't know i just I'm pretty old school i like I like to have an actual MacBook or a MacBook Pro like if
1:17:19
I could only have one device if you're like you got to get rid of your phone and your iPad and everything and you can
1:17:24
only keep one thing what would it be without a doubt it would be my 14-inch
1:17:30
MacBook Pro i think you know because I use my phone all the time but do I use
1:17:35
my phone for anything important i'm not sure I do you know you
1:17:41
can look funny Karen the last social media taking pictures but I can do that yeah hello without a smart person
1:17:48
without a smartphone you could have like a you know flip phone or something like that in this imaginary scenario oh well
1:17:53
that would make it an even easier decision and and in some ways I feel like it would make my life better because I'm so addicted to my phone and
1:17:59
I use it for so many things just to waste time you should start a series of MacBook selfies
1:18:05
yeah okay just start carrying Take one to Disneyland see how it take one to a concert and hold that up in front of the
1:18:10
crowd and see how quickly you get punched in the face until you drop it and you realize you just you know broke
1:18:16
$4,000 on the ground okay we're going to go ahead and wrap it up there that's all
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guys next [Music] time what do you call that when you
1:19:13
change the volume and pitch of your voice as you go up like that is that a [Music]
1:19:20
squeal i figured there's some kind of musical term
1:19:26
that Yeah I like that oh modulation
1:19:34
okay whatever it is I've developed a unique talent to do it i would
1:19:43
say it's uh something I should maybe seek to do
1:19:49
professionally a voice actor or something i'll see all right
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