Cult of Mac editor-in-chief Leander Kahney quizzes managing editor Lewis Wallace and writer D. Griffin Jones on Apple history trivia.
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[Music]
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All right, let's try. We got a new
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section uh right now which um is an
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Apple trivia quiz called Apple Genius.
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And
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oh no,
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I know this is going to be a total
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disaster, but let's give it a try. So,
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what I figured uh we should do is I'll
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ask a it's a six questions and I think
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you two have to compete to to answer,
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right? So, let's do it like with a
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buzzer, but we don't have buzzers. So
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you'll have to go or make a buzzer sound
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and then I will turn to that person to
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give the answer and if they're wrong
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then the other person gets a chance to
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get the right answer.
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I don't like my odds right now.
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Yeah. And there there's six questions. I
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actually I ran this through Gemini. So
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um the first one was really easy like
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So the questions are going to be wrong.
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No. Well, we'll see. We'll see.
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No, the questions will be wrong. Uh
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questions will be right. The answers
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will be I I should just say before we
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start, um maybe this will just make it
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more embarrassing if I if I if I do end
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up losing this, but I should say I'm not
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terribly scared of losing to Lewis. What
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I'm most scared about is uh losing to
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myself, not being as happy with my
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performance and it
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just like in darts, you're playing the
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board, not the opponent. That's a good
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approach.
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But uh yeah, geez, I don't know. I'm
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very trepidacious about this because you
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whatever the question is, you're
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probably going to say, "Oh, wait. I have
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one of those over here in the drawer. Oh
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yeah, this is the third generation
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Pippen. You know,
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I I did some I did some studying when he
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said that we were going to do this as a
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segment, but we'll see.
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Oh my god, he's been boning up.
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Okay, this is the expert one and then
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we'll move to the insane difficult one
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later.
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Okay,
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right after this. Okay, so uh the first
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question is the original Apple 1
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computer was sold for a very specific
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somewhat controversial price. What was
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it?
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I know it.
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Lewis got beat you there. Louis, what is
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it?
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$666.
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Oh, there we go. Griffin got the answer
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there. Okay, one down to Griffin.
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Hold on. I better make a list here. Who
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got what?
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I should have rung in before you
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finished reading the question.
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Yeah, exactly. Okay, next question.
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Okay. Who was the father of the
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Macintosh who originally started the
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project before Steve Jobs took it over?
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Jeff Raskin.
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Well done, Griffin.
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I knew that when I just didn't get the
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buzzer in time.
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Okay,
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you got to get a triangle.
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Yeah. All right.
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Looks unnecessarily
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uh because he was such a fan of
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simplicity changed his name so it only
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had one F.
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Really?
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Yep.
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That's not That's not uh
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That is true.
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Now, that is a question for a future
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quiz if you're not competing. And here's
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a I've got I've got a I'll I'll save my
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knowledge in case it comes up.
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Okay, next question. Question number
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three. Which short-lived gaming console
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did Apple release in the mid 1990s?
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The Apple Pippen.
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[Laughter]
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All right. Correct. Griffin's running
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away with this quiz. Lewis, you got up
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again.
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Okay.
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Well, he just blurted it out. I think my
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buzzer was faster than his his ring.
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That dinged.
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That dinged. Um, next question. This
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question number four. What is the name
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of the dog cow mascot that appeared in
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the classic M page setup?
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Oh my god, this is a sweep. Lewis, you
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might go to darts, but
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all right, number five. Who served as
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Apple's CEO immediately prior to Steve
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Jobs return as interim CO in 1997?
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Lewis. Okay, Louis. Who is it?
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Immed Scully.
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Oh, no. Wrong.
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No, wait. Totally wrong.
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Oh. Oh, right.
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Skully was the second CEO. The one
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before him was Jill Gilio.
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Okay. Griffin.
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Is that the guy who was right there that
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what was I didn't actually hear the
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whole question. What was the whole
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question?
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Who served as Apple CEO immediately
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prior to Steve Joel's return as interim
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CEO in 1997? And and and Griffin got the
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right answer. Gil.
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Was it was it Gilio?
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Yeah. Gilamelio.
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All right. The horrible. Yeah. Okay.
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Yeah. God damn it.
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The uh what they call him the turn. He
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was a what was his nickname? He was a
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turnaround artist.
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Um had a reput he thinking of the guy
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who is called the diesel.
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That was
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Michael, right?
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Um
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I don't know. I just I always heard him
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Amelio referred to as a turnaround
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artist.
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Yeah. But well, I guess he did I mean
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kind of somewhat true except it was
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Steve Jobs. He did the turnaround, but
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he did bring Steve Jobs back.
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Mhm. um which um for which he will
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always be Apple fans will forever be
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grateful to him for doing that.
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Um but he spent more time overhauling
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the bathroom um in the executive offices
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than uh than turning the company around.
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All right, ready? Uh the final question
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uh question number six. Before Swift was
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introduced in 2014, what was the primary
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programming used in iOS and Mac OS
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development?
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What is it?
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Objective C. Correct.
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All right.
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I would have never gotten that one.
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So, Lewis, uh, I'm afraid you have zero
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points.
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Goose egg. Yay.
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And Griffin. Griffin sweep the the board
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there with six points. All right. Let's
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try the insane difficulty Apple trivia.
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I don't know how much more of this I can
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take.
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This is so much fun, Lewis, that we've
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got to do another one.
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It's
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Maybe you better wait until buzzing
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before until after I finish the
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question.
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Okay.
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Maybe that would help. How did how
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that's not the way game shows work.
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Well, all right, whatever. Um, this is
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this is a test. We're going to see how
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this works if it or if it works or not.
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Um, in the early n Okay, question number
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one. In the early 90s, Apple engineers
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used an the internal kill named Carl
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Sean for the Power Macintosh 7100. After
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Sean issued a cease and desist, what
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spiteful acronym did the engineers
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change the code name to?
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This is Oh. Oh,
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Lewis is in pain right now because this
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is in a Today in Apple history that we
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read.
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I've read this several times
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and I cannot remember what it is. Uh,
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do you want me to give you four multiple
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choices so you can choose?
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Sure.
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Uh, no. Hold on.
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Well, Griffin, do you know
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you know it, Griffin? Is this one that
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you don't know?
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I remember reading the Today in Apple
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history, but you probably read it more
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than I have.
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Yeah,
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so I don't remember it off the top of my
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head.
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I bet I'll bet half the listeners know
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the answers to this.
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This is embarrassing. My goodness me.
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Come on, guys. This cult editor,
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it's something. It's you know something
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astronomer something dumbass astronomer
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or something like that.
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Okay. Getting closer. Getting warm.
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Getting warm.
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What was it? What was the thing that
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What was the question again?
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Uh in the early 90s, Apple engineers
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used the Intel code name Carl Sean for
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the power Macintosh 7100. That was the
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code name for the machine in
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development. So after Seiken issued a
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decease and desist, what spiteful
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acronym did the engineers change the
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code name to?
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Give us multiple choice. Make this a
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multiple choice for
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Okay. CST for Cosmos Star Treker.
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SOS, Sean's own story, DNA, do not
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disturb. I'm sorry. DN D do not disturb
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or B number four. BHA buttthead
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astronomer.
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There we go. Four. It's four.
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All right. Neither of you got that.
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You're both useless.
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That's fair.
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Okay, next one.
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Uh, okay. This is a good This is a good
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one. And this is one I didn't know
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myself. Written by 15-year-old Rich
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Scranter in 1982,
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Elk Cloner is widely considered the
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first computer virus found in the wild.
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Which Apple computer did it target?
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That would have had to be the Apple 2.
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Correct. But he didn't buzz in. But I'll
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give that one to you anyway. Great.
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Okay.
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Because Lewis was obviously struggling
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there.
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It could have been the Apple.
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When did the Apple 3 come out
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81? But nobody had the Apple 3. So,
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right. Who's going to write
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popular enough to be virus?
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Yeah. Honestly, I I was only scared that
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you were going to say no, it was the
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Apple 2e or Apple 2 Plus, but I think
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even the Apple 2e was 1982. So,
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it infected floppy discs on the Apple 2
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operating system. So, um, the part I
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didn't know was that it was the first
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computer virus found in the wild.
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Very cool. Uh, okay. Here's here's one
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that I bet Lewis knows. The 20th
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anniversary Macintosh released in 1997
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featured a unique design by Johnny IV.
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Which nickname was this computer given
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during its development?
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During its development?
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Yeah. What was its nickname?
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Okay, I'll give you I'll give you the
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four choices here. Excalibur,
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Spartacus, Odyssey, or Pomona.
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Excalibur, Spartacus, Odyssey, Pomona.
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Pomona is actually the name of a
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different unreleased Apple product, a
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code name of a different concept that
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they had. I'm going to say
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Spartacus sounds vaguely familiar. So,
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I'm going to guess Spartacus. Lewis,
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I would guess Excalibur. All right.
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Unfortunately for you, Lewis is right.
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God dang it.
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Oh my goodness me. This is
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Even when he doesn't know, he gets
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lucky.
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I
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I thought the answer to that I thought
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the question was going to be uh how were
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they delivered?
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Ah, that's a that would have been a good
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question. That would be by concier.
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Yeah, a dude in a tuxedo.
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Wasnack. And how many does Wasnak have?
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That's another good question.
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How many of those does he have? Yeah, he
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has a personal collection of
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he he was gifted one on stage at an
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Apple event that I know for sure.
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I have no idea. 20.
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Several, I believe. But he actually I
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think he came out in an interview and
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said how many he had, but it was and it
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was kind of embarrassingly
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quite a lot.
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And and I know that Gilamelio as part of
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his exit package as he was being pushed
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out of the door of the company because
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the 20th anniversary Mac was his like
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pet project, he requested that he be
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given a new one.
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Yeah. And it did. It had a built it had
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a subwoofer, didn't it? separate
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subwoofer. Kind of a cool idea for the
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top.
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A subwoofer built into its power supply.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And a and a built-in CD player, too,
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wasn't it? So he could function as his
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home stereo.
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Johnny IV special. That was one of his
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first projects when he when he got hired
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at Apple.
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All right, fourth question.
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Oh my god.
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When the Apple Lisa was released,
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marketing claimed LISA was an acronym.
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What did it stand for?
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Logical integrated system architecture.
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No.
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Oh,
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close.
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Something integrated system
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architecture.
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H.
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Which letter do I have?
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Local.
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The sword.
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Oh, logical integrated software
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architecture.
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That's right. All right. So, one more.
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I'm gonna go back to bed.
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This apparently this is they called it a
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backronym.
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Mhm.
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And it was invented to deny rumors. It
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was named after Steve Jobs's daughter.
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That part I
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and Apple employees came up with their
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own acronym for it. There was like
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something lazy something stupid acronym.
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Lazy invented stupid acronym they called
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it.
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You better. Yeah. That was what it
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should have been called.
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Mhm.
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Um yeah. So uh one of the one of the
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other choices there was logic logical
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integrated system architecture. So you
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were very very close there Griffin. Very
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very close but not quite. But you did
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get it in the end. So I'll give you that
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point. I don't know. Should I get in
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that point Lewis? Maybe that seems about
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give it to me.
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You didn't have anything. So I don't
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think you really deserve that.
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All right. Maybe Lewis, here's your last
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last two chances to catch up. Um, what
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was the internal code name for the first
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public beta version of Mac OS 10
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released in September 2000
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for the public beta? Kodiak.
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The internal code name. Good god. What?
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You got it right. I can't believe it.
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What the hell?
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This is insane mode. This is a wash.
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This This thing's a disaster because
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Griffin's just running away with all the
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answers. Okay, last qu uh last question.
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The AIM Alliance was formed in 1991 to
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create the Power PC architecture. Apple
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and IBM were two members. Who was the
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third member of the AIM alliance?
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Motorola.
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[Laughter]
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All right, we have a winner.
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Easy one.
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We have an easy one.
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Oh my god.
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Did you have any clue there, Louis? The
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choices?
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Uh, I would have probably got to that
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eventually.
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Of course, this isn't really fair
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because Louis is at a distinct
12:53
disadvantage. Having won the B- League
12:55
dance championship last night and having
12:58
had a few celebratory drinks is not on
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your not on your toes, right? Not on
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your best form.
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I'm uh I'm a little a little groggy
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still. Didn't get that much sleep last
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night.
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All right. Congratulations, Griffin. You
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got
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You won a new car.
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Yeah. Yeah. Um Yeah. What do you win?
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I've got a I've got an old iPhone case
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around here somewhere.
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Okay. Can have
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for an iPhone 12.
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Maybe I could I can ship you some wild
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broken MacBooks.
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Oh, sure.
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Maybe you can get a broken MacBook.
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Okay.


