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iOS and macOS massive redesigns + Folding iPhone leaks! (CultCast #690)
Mar 15, 2025
This week, details on the biggest iOS redesign since iOS 7 and the folding iPhone! Also, first impressions of the new MacBook Air and iPad Air, Mac Studio benchmarks, and Apple delaying New Siri again… Chapters: 0:00 Preshow 3:29 Intro 10:26 Incogni 12:35 MacBook Air and iPad Air hands-on 34:03 Foldable iPhone 42:41 iOS 19 & macOS 16 redesign 51:57 Siri and home hub delayed
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that one was unscripted oh he muted himself oh my gosh he's really losing it
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over too too weak to hit the punch button at first we caught the first breath of that God I was trying
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desperately to hit that button yeah well it almost it's called again it's called it's called a cough butt a cough
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button which you know you said you hit or miss today that was a big old Miss
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big fat juice Miss Lou yeah man it's like I was trying to I know it's terrible just
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terrible oh my that's nice and we're live we got level remix
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here and it looks like either the chat's broken or that's it so we'll see how this works uh let's see here but that's
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all we need we only need level remix so that we can start and uh I'll probably go live on
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the all new X oh we got Nathan theory in here as well so now it's really a party
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you want this tweet action leis this is it of anything else this is what you're missing this is going to set your day on
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the right path this will be the first thing that's happened to me all day here it is get ready for
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it there you go leis they don't make them like that anymore well I guess they do but only once a week and only on
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Thursdays hallelujah oh man we got Biff lurette
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here one of my favorite names I hope that's your real name name Biff I really do tell me it's real lie to me we got
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tipia 808 that's got to be a code name for something he's probably in the CIA or
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something did I say tilapia did you say tilapia it's what is that what you said yeah it's definitely not what it
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actually says we got Andy wils here okay I think we're ready to roll and then
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once we get going I'm going to try and broadcast this to the all new X I don't want to do it now because this is all the boring stuff in fact I was thinking
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like what we should do since we're showing everyone how the sausage is made here is we should re we
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should we should edit off the front of the show of the live stream and just publish the part like after the intros
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and everything just going right into the stories that's the part that people want and so we should probably do that going
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forward but all right here we
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go okay sorry I'm reading the chat which is probably not helping me actually
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multitask here I can't multitask I can only task I can't multitask let's go
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ahead uh and que up Mrs you know who oh Mrs
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D see this is the part that we definitely shouldn't leave yeah yeah
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people don't want to hear this Mrs D if you don't mind let's go ahead and get into this show oh my dear you know I
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like to get into it centrally with elany oh God I still don't know if I have a
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stomach for this today you know I I do include this in the edited version of the podcast either you're it's just our
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YouTube people who are subjected to this you're making a huge mistake don't make them suffer even more oh my gosh I can't
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tell if the show is getting better or worse I really can't tell all right let's go ahead and uh get this thing
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rolling Mrs D if you don't mind we will get the music queued up in
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three hello and welcome to the coasty best 30 plus minute Apple conversation you're going to
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hear all week long I'm your host air Li en join me today he spent the weekend hanging around hanging anvils around the
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cult of mat grounds stringing them to trip wies to deal with any potential Riders who decide to quit and maybe
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escape the property he's the managing leis walls is here what you you say
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anvils anvils or an Hills what and you know the things that fall on your head
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when you're running an so like if you're a uh coyote right like a like a coyote
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or a blacksmith or something serial killer blacksmith also with us you probably can't tell but he has to apply
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cosmetic putty to his face before the show to cover the Vision Pro Impressions
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left behind by wearing the mask all day and all night doctors say if he doesn't reduce his usage the lines may become
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permanent [Music]
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oh God G Jones is here good evening we're
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we were about to run out of Music there that was the longest intro we've ever done we're in trouble you can't even
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tell you are just like outstanding with what do they call that thing that you used for spackle
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[Music] chisel what do you call that thing not sure they use it on your drywall you know oh spatula I spatula or something
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yeah I don't know what is that thing called good God I don't know maybe a spatula that sounds like it could be
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right all right well look welcome to the show everyone we got lots of stuff to talk about this week uh actually you
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know before we say anything else should I go ahead and press the button list you want me to press the button yeah let's
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do it all right we may not be here in three seconds everyone cross something let's
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see oh wait that's not gonna work because uh I didn't actually oh you
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didn't do it again I didn't create the broadcast okay you're bragging about it just a broadcast created oh I got the I
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got the uh did you get a notification I Got a notification son of a gun you're joking so we are broadcasting for the
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first time live on the all new X although I don't see anything on
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here all I see is nothing but you can see something maybe maybe that's what we got well let me just uh tap that
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notification and see okay let's see I see a large black screen that says
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loading oh wonderful okay well we won't make the
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listeners endure this hey you know what maybe it'll maybe we're like SpaceX over
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here we just got theal part of the podcast that's going to be edited out what are you talking about it's like the best part of the show probably yeah
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people people love hearing people talk about watching their phone load wait uh
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let me see oh no it isn't working oh okay it's not working try again no it's
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not doesn't say loading anymore all right well still spinning though could be my phone it's wonderful I don't see
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it doesn't look broken on my side but we'll have to fix it later all right everyone we got all sorts of great stuff
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to talk about this week uh Griffin's going to go handson with the or I guess he has been Hands-On technically speaking he has already been hands- on
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with the allnew iPad Air and the new Macbook Air we're going to talk about
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the huge redesigns coming to iOS 19 and Mac OS 16 and I'm I'm looking forward to those
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for sure I think it's time to freshen things up I'll give you some breaking news on the all new foldable iPhone
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which I think you may not love you may not love this news but I'm gonna give it to you anyway Louis is GNA talk about
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how Siri continues regressing and just what needs to be done to fix it he has
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the whole thing mapped out I hope Tim KCK is listening to this episode we'll have a short update on the iPad like
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smart home hub which I have been excited about and uh we'll wrap up the show if we have time because I gotta be walking
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out the door in 59 minutes so we'll see if this happens so quick announcement
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wrong yeah typical that's just great just great please try again later
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okay yeah says would you like to end your broadcast how about we start it how about we do that I'm gonna restart the
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thing that sounds like something elcy uses I'm not sure that applies to spackling but I know that Griffin
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probably knew the answer to that because he uses that tool on his face before the show and he didn't want to say anything so just going to call that out all right
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okay let's Dive Right In should we talk about the all new which one you want to do first Griffin I guess I'll start by
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talking about my Apple Store experience oh I went to the Apple Store and uh picked up my my devices returned my
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iPhone 16e I was oh you I I picked it up just to like reset
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and like you know erase it and wipe it and put it back in the box and like I picked it up that last time and I was
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like I'm going to miss this so much it's it's such a great phone yeah that's so funny the weight it's just it just
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weighs nothing it feel it almost feels like a a fake like Chinese like plastic like
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fake iPhone oh that's nice yeah like a mockup yeah yeah yeah U anyways sadly
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packed that away returned it picked up the MacBook Air and iPad Air um and then while I'm in the Apple Store I usually
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like to get a few pictures and like videos of like the just the display units for for the use download Final Cut
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Pro yeah yeah all that update the browsers to go to the cultcast decom
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don't forget that I've actually done that I have too yeah anyways I was going
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to get a picture of the the new sky blue MacBook Air right next to the Starlight one but somebody else was in front of
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those computers like taking a look at them or something so I you know got out of the way and I walked over to the
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Apple watch table oh and I saw oh there's just an Apple Watch Ultra with a few of its fun little bands sitting over
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there oh yeah this is just unrelated sign up but I was like you know I've never tried one on before I put it on
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and it confirmed exactly what I thought this thing is just way too big it looked
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com on my wrists it looked absolutely ridiculous my neither of my sleeves my
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like you know black shirt sleeve or even my jacket sleeve could fit over it it it
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was it was insane I don't know how you walk around with a brick on your wrist like that all the time well I love it I
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don't even notice it Gotta Have you know like a beefy arm you know you can't just be walking around with little stick
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figure arms I mean that is a key component that that's what I have anyways I tried on the I shot on the
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Apple watch ultra's like special new version of the millon a loop yeah and it's it's a little finicky like cuz you
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have two things to adjust before you it is a little bit weird I really like it I think it's much more comfortable than
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the regular one because like the links on it it makes a flatter band it's not as like Pinchy and round because like
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the links are designed a different shape I don't know I like Pinchy yeah yeah you ever won the Millan Loop it it pinches
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your arm hair constantly that's my next that's my next band man I as as soon as I I'm Wai I'm just waiting for the ultra
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3 to come out I almost bought the band by itself but you get such a huge discount on it if you buy it with the
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watch but the other thing is is I really love their alpine Loops their alpine Loops are so comfortable and so
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beautiful they have great colors so I'm kind of conflicted but I think I'm going to just go with the millanes loop the
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titanium one I I didn't did you try on the black one by chance no it was just they just had the regular titanium one
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not a fan tried it on in the store and I really just felt like it made the watch look cheap for some reason
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I really like the natural titanium more but anyway I don't want to take over your story here anyways I'll probably take a look at if they have the other
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version of the Apple watch Ultra like the next time when I when I go into return these things but anyways picked up the MacBook Air and the iPad Air I'll
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start with the MacBook Air since I've spent some more time with that I have it behind me over here I'll go get it got
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I'm going full screen Griffin here a that looks bluish it does look blue it certainly does look your mom's probably
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super jealous yep uh it it's really weird it it does sitting in the store it
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looked exactly like the pictures on the apple.com website where it's like you know really prominently blue and it also
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looked that blue when I took it outside but in almost any indoor lighting it's just like barely off silver yeah putty
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gray I've got a proper blue here this is the iBook blueberry that's what it
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should have been Mouse look how much Bluer it is this there's no confusing that this is blue
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but this I mean it's like it's it has a little more blue in it than Starlite has
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yellow like Starlight I mean it it's basically just silver but like you know
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with the temperature dial turned a little bit warm MH this is much cooler than Starlight is warm if that makes any
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sense um I have a proper silver MacBook Pro for comparison as contrast and
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that's really the only way to see it the only way to see the blue is if you put it directly next to Silver
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this is this is my old MacBook Pro MacBook
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fire hazard Pro the the battery is slowly swelling and it will probably explode the house down yeah yeah it's
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pretty bad actually I think I used to have that machine put them side by side yeah one
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of them's Bluer a little bit Yeah you can tell a lot more when it's like that but even then it's still barely blue
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yeah yeah which is a shame because like the the blue on the website is a pretty good blue it it just doesn't actually
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look like that but um anyways man this thing is thin yeah it is it's crazy thin
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it's beautiful the bottom half of it is like thinner than an iPhone which is
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just insane let me try and position these correctly sheesh like when you have the lid open it's it's really properly thin
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it's it's it's pretty neat um the feet are still a little thick on the bottom but um I haven't tested this obviously
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but I suspect that if you were to like uh knock over a drink on a table next to
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it maybe the feet elevated enough where none of the water can get inside but I am not willing to test that myself
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because I don't want to destroy a laptop and be wrong but um anyways yeah it's it's pretty neat I've um I've done all
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my speed tests on it for my review my review will probably be published this weekend I think on Saturday morning or something like that
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and again it's it's it perform is basically identically to the M4 iMac because you know this also has an M4
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chip in it and you know although I I did refine my tests I think they're a little more accurate now but um yeah it
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performs in like four out of the five tests it performs a little bit better than my M2 Pro Mac Mini and in a few
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other tests it performs like a little slower but still roughly equivalent which means that like you know two
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generations on a Bas M4 is a little bit better than the M2 Pro which is two
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generations old but a higher tier with with much more many more Graphics scores but um yeah it it performs a little
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better it's now just like an unbelievable value like $999 for this is just insane I performed all of my speed
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tests on battery like just unplugged spent an entire morning doing that and by the time I was done like exporting
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videos exporting audios doing like AI transcriptions doing like you know running these Python scripts I ran like
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an xcode Benchmark the battery was still at like 9 4% which is just insane that's
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been something I've definitely noticed I mean my computer's new obviously so the battery is new but it lasts so much
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longer I'll use that thing for like hours and hours and hours and I look and I'm like oh I've only used like 15% of the battery you just forget how long the
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battery used to last you know before you own the machine for three or four years
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yeah all right what about the air the iPad Air oh sure over here
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oh you even got the keyboard with itpl room I did I did look how white that is this is the first time I've had an so I
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I guess I should start with this I've never personally owned my own iPad a few years ago I had like an iPad at work but
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that was a work iPad it only did like notes for that and it was a much older one it was the old like iPad I think
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like six generation with a home button this is my first time with the magic keyboard with the apple pencil of any
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kind and U like using it as like a laptop style iPad I got of
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course the purple color and this is much more purple than the MacBook Air is blue
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although it's it's not showing up as well on the camera it does look a little more purple in person but it's still not
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like it's still not very purple um a few observations here uh although this is
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the this isn't the smallest iPad they have there's obviously the iPad mini but even
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considering like the apple pencil on the side it really almost overlaps the volume buttons when you have it
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positioned a certain way like the it's it's like really almost
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touching the volume buttons it's almost kind of like when when you touch them you're almost worried that you're going to like knock the pencil off or
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something yeah it happens I also didn't realize that the pencil only magnetically attaches like in the middle so you can just like spin it around it's
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pretty fun actually yeah it's like a fidget spinner just like get it to D in a oh he's got a dangler he's got a
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dangler there you go yeah um let's I haven't spent as much time with this
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what I want to do is uh I'm actually going to try editing this episode of the cultcast on the iPad oh jeez so if the
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audio is terrible or if it isn't posted until like tomorrow morning it just never comes out at all you know they'll
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never even hear the segment but you know there's logic pro on the iPad uh I am a
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professional so let's see how let's see what it can do that's pretty cool man I uh I've
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never actually tried to to use the iPad in a production capacity before I have to say I'm also going to try exporting
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videos but uh we'll see how it goes I'm also very surprised like this isn't
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really news to anybody but these are just my observations as a Mac guy like
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if you if you put it inside the the magic keyboard case and like or magic keyboard yeah thing en close it it
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becomes pretty thick and pretty heavy like this is a it it feels like dense
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like this is much denser than a MacBook Pro like this it it it feels like you
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know it almost feels like comparable in weight to like my 2015 15inch MacBook Pro like it's it's
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heavy yeah and bulky as well that's why I returned the 13 or the 13inch iPad Pro
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because MH what I realized is this is a laptop replacement like if you're not going to be using this thing as a laptop
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replacement it's way too heavy just to use as a tablet so if you want to have a
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laptop that you can use as a tablet I think it makes sense to get the larger iPad or to get the iPad with the
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keyboard because it does add so much weight it feels like a laptop once you add that yeah um this is my first time
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using stage manager extensively for my own personal use yeah and you know what
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I think I prefer split view mhm which is a weird thing to say but like um I got
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the 11in iPad the the smaller one and I just feel like you can't actually
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arrange things well enough to actually like have it be useful and see multiple things at once there's just so much
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wasted screen space what I like about split view is that it uses virtually 100% of the screen available but like
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when you use stage manager like unless you make every window really tall and skinny and basically just recreate split
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view but more finicky then you have so much wasted space of like the you know seeing the desktop behind all these
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windows and you already have such a small screen I I didn't like stage manager too much I didn't either I keep trying to
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use it and I keep trying to like it but I it just feels like no matter what
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Apple does to make the iPad into something that you would want to use for production it always feels like it's a
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compromise so for me that's why I decided to again get rid of the 13-in iPad Pro and just have a smaller laptop
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which I'm so happy with now when I the 16inch I'm like this thing is ridiculous now don't get me wrong I'm a huge fan of
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the power the the raw horsepower and I do miss having a machine that has a
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bigger display and I know that when I really push the iPad or the MacBook Pro
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the fans are going to spin on and maybe even throttle but I feel like that compromise is worth it just to use it
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every day as a normal computer and to be honest I heard so many people online complaining about how the 14-inch
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MacBook Pro would constantly have the fans spinning and turn on mine have not
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come on a single time I have not heard them once and I've owned it for over two weeks now maybe they're
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broken that's a good point I I guess I never really considered that am my my
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laptop is not supposed to be 160 degrees on the bottom is it I thought that felt hot well you're a big fan of The Griddle
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right so just uh I've been I've been considering returning The Griddle and just using the iPad or the map Pro
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anyway back back to you Griffin yeah I kind of wish instead of stage manager that split
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view was just more versatile in what it could do I know that they're kind of limited because like these apps are
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developed with like spec around specific size classes of screen things and so you can't really like freely resize things
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but I wish you could and I wish you could just like infinitely like tile split view you know have like something
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on like half of the screen and then have two quarters on the other half of it or like you know a third and two3 you know
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I wish there was just like a more dynamic split view thing so that way I know that like I'm just using I'm just
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completely filling the screen that's really what I want I mean I I carefully rearrange all my Mac Windows on my
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screen you know but I also have like a 27 inch canvas to fill so I don't know
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may I think if you want to use it that way you should really just get the 13inch iPad iPad I the air or the pro
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but um yeah I've just been using split view on it and it's fine um other thoughts and observations oh yes this is
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the new magic keyboard accessory that holds the iPad uh farther back so that it makes
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room for the the function row and the trackpad um hold it up so we can see it
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yeah yeah I was also going to say on the way that um yeah it's kind of hard to open because there's no there's no thumb
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scoop so you just have to like get your fingernail in there and like pull it open I don't have
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fingernails but you have the trackpad the trackpad
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still isn't big like it's pretty small I don't know how small it was before but like doing the it's good enough for like
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cursing and like mousing around but when you want to like swipe up or down through a big vertical list that's when
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it feels kind of cramped because that's the dimension that the trackpad is smallest in like it's really only like half
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size um the other thing is that because the iPad is held further back it really
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has a lot of the weight back there it doesn't tilt back very far and also like if it's sitting on your lap unless your
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legs are like perfectly flat it's going to tip over like the center of gravity
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is like kind of around the function keys like right right here almost in the very
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back is the center of gravity so you definitely want to put this thing on a table and not just on your knees CU
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unless you're holding onto it the entire time because this thing will just like tumble over back that's all the iPads
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with the smart that's yeah I mean like the old ones held the iPad like further forward so
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that you had a much more reasonable center of gravity yeah I mean that's the reason laptops are big on the bottom and
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have thin displays and not the other way around which is what every iPad with a magic keyboard is like but dude I'm just
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truly baffled I mean there are people that just use the iPad Pro I I saw somebody on Twitter who was it it was is
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his name Quinn Nelson um from snazzy Labs he was saying that he was looking
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for a reason to buy the M4 MacBook Air but he doesn't even use his current MacBook Air because he just uses an iPad
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Pro with a keyboard attached and I'm like for what how how did you actually
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use it as a laptop replacement because to me when you combine an iPad with the
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is it the magic keyboard or the Smart Keyboard I always get those magic keyboard magic keyboard I always get those two things mixed up it's like the
29:21
worst of Both Worlds you get an awkward laptop and a tablet that's too big to be
29:28
as convenient as it once was it like those two things combined are the opposite of synergy so I don't
29:35
know what the word for that is but it just seems like a diminished experience in in both modalities it's like now it's
29:41
a worst iPad and it's a worst laptop but I guess you don't need to buy another
29:47
laptop or something and I just when people say that they use it as their main machines I'm like really what are you doing on your machine that makes you
29:54
happy to just have an iPad with a keyboard magnetized it's the are having just like a Transformer of a computer
30:00
like it's a computer that can do your work and then you can just tear it off and just use it as a you know video player or hold it in bed or something
30:06
like that and then you can just add the pencil and use it to take notes or Draw yeah I suppose so and and that's
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not what I'm looking for so no hate to anyone that is using it that way I just really enjoy having something that is
30:19
custom crafted for a specific use case and doesn't have to be compromised to like fit all these use cases that you
30:25
may want to do which is why I love like the just the the MacBook Pro by the way
30:30
the stream's working on on X on x I got it working you know what it was I could
30:37
go into deep detail about this maybe we should do the next 30 minutes on this it didn't like the encoding that we were using so I changed the encoding which I
30:43
thought might completely crash our live stream here and I was like you know what what the hey I'll give it a shot anyway
30:50
if we go down we go down I'm going down with the ship and my computer's barely even breaking a sweat so I have my
30:56
GPU doing a duel and code so it's doing one for YouTube and it's doing one for x and it's using different codecs in
31:03
different dimensions and I don't even hear the fans on so you know Nvidia 4080
31:09
for the win the thing's just an absolute monster although not even nearly as good as like the 490 oh man I should get
31:16
myself one of those now that everyone good as the Mac Studio with M3 Ultra yeah it would probably that would probably also be true but um then I have
31:24
to spend you know $4,400 so which you would have fun spending you know I wouldn't mind having
31:31
it but and we're not going to talk about this this week we we bump the story to next week but the specs for the Max
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studio are in and I got to say they're surprising and I think one of the reasons they're so surprising just to
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kind of give a teaser is because in the previous versions of the Mac Studio you got the same gener generation chip for
31:49
the Bas version um as you did for the ultra version and now that's not the case and the M4 is way more performant
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than the m 3 so you get in many instances tests where the M4 is actually
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beating the M3 Ultra and the m and the M3 Ultra where it where it is um better
32:09
suited to deliver better performance the performance isn't as huge as it would be if it were an M4
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Ultra which I find to be really interesting um anyway we'll talk more about that next week I I want to do some
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I want to let some more benchmarks come out and do some more research before we dive into that but all right anything
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else to say about the iPad Air or the M4
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MacBook Air Griffin before we so the um M4 MacBook Air now supports
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two 6K displays simultaneous with a built-in display and uh on hand because
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I'm just a filthy poor peasant all I had were two 5K displays yuck but you know I
32:53
I plugged it into both of those and so gross how do you compute I know but you
32:58
know what you're just swimming in screen space it's insane you know and and it's amazing how you can just like plug in
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with a single cable both gigantic displays and because they both they're like the the Ben Q displays that have
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like a built-in Thunderbolt USB hub like you can have all your access like all
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your accessories and peripherals like automatically come on like that and it charges the MacBook simultaneously Thunderbolt is magical
33:25
it's great and it's not even Thunderbolt 5 it's not even the newest Thunderbolt which is just insane I mean I Thunderbolt 5 is just so Superfluous at
33:33
this point it's like what what would you possibly be doing that could even taken advantage of it most people don't even take advantage of Thunderbolt four
33:38
bandwidth to your to your point uh all right let's see here let me look at the notes because I
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have absolutely no clue what we're talking about next not even a clue oh well should I talk about the foldable
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iPhone first before you do the uh before you jump into what's coming next for iOS
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19 and Mac OS 16 the big massive redesigns I just thought that you all might be interested in this story if
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you're interested in the first foldable iPhone from Apple well hope you ready to
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Pony up because it's not going to come to you cheap and if this rumor is true I really
34:18
question who would actually spend the money for this because this is I think excessive Apple's first foldable iPhone
34:25
May sport a book style design in a steep $2,000 price tag 2,000 Buckaroo
34:34
minimum minimum don't forget the upgrade in storage fees it will apparently
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support a 7.8 in inner folding design and a 5.5 in cover
34:46
display let's see here despite being late to the market and a steep price tag
34:52
I'm just reading from the article now Apple's folding iPhone will have strong replacement demand yeah well that's probably true up to a certain degree I
34:59
mean with this price I'm not so sure that's what mingi quo from TF
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International Security beliefs in a research note he shared more information about the alleged specs of the iPhone
35:11
and purported price tag of between $2,254 now you may think that that
35:17
sounds outrageous slap your mom outrageous leis but the Samsung Galaxy Z
35:24
fold 6 there's a name for you wow cost $100 I had no idea it was that expensive
35:30
while the Google pixel 99 Pro fold is $1,800 Apple's first folding iPhone will
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apparently be just 4.5 to 4.8 mm thick when unfolded which is just insanely
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thin that's the thinnest device they've ever made even thinner than the 13-inch iPad Pro which I think is 5 millim and
35:49
when you hold that thing you feel like you're going to break it because it's so thin uh let's see here the fold the
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folded thickness this is estimated to be around 9 to 9.5 mm which is also super
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thin um the hinge will use a combination of stainless steel and titanium alloy and I think the most the most um
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interesting thing about this is that the screen itself when you unfold it is
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supposed to not have a crease which is something you see across almost I think all in fact of the foldable phones is
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that big ugly crease that is present when you unfold the phone because I think they're using plastic screens
36:26
which a plastic screen for a $22,000 device no ma'am as the great Al Bundy
36:32
used to say forgot all about him oh man you know
36:38
what leis they were selling the entire um complete marrywood children series on
36:45
on um do they still call it iTunes I think they do the stores called iTunes
36:52
yeah for buying movies and shows I don't think they ever rebranded it it's still iTunes $20
36:58
$20 so for those of you who have never heard the show Married with Children I'm not going to talk about it you can look it up yourself some of the episodes are
37:04
floating out there iconic program from like the late 80s
37:09
early 90s and my wife was prising
37:15
our iTunes library and she's like what's this I was like Married with Children
37:22
I'm like have you ever heard of it she's like yeah I heard of it she was offended she was offended that I would would have purchased that series
37:29
because like there's some stuff in there that you know wouldn't fly in current year you know Al
37:34
Bundy not not an American hero in 2024 although he was on his high school
37:40
football team if you'll remember I think I think he caught like the winning touchdown in like two different games that's neither here nor there
37:47
there's your folding iphone update what
37:52
do you think chat 2,000 2500 Buck I think it's the the CE of Huawei
37:59
has been like you this would never happen in apple the CEO of Huawei was like photographed on a plane these like
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flying a flight or something he's probably in first class but still he was just like f flying a public flight and
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he was photographed in his um in his seat with a folding phone that they hadn't released yet I still don't know
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if they have or not but it's actually a zold phone like actually has it unfolds
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twice once outer ways and then again like the other way so it has like so
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it's like a triple screen continuous screen folding phone thing
38:36
I that's like I think the the platonic idea like what it might you know like 20
38:42
years from now a folding phone might be like but I mean who knows how much that how much that's gonna cost he's just open caring the thing yeah I also can't
38:50
imagine like how unrel how many he's like probably broken considering it folds twice in two different ways I'll
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try and find Link in the show notes because you really to believe it but yeah it's also like paper thin when you
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unfold it like so thin that it's almost that it's only barely thicker than the USBC port on the bottom God that's wild
39:09
dude what what is the next 10 years going to bring you know there's certain things really cool that the European
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Union codified USBC into law like one year before USBC then becomes too thick
39:19
for all these folding phon I know I know and and obviously that's one of the reasons why it is tough when bureaucrats
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think that they know best because they have good intentions but they can't foresee the future and so they put like
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these limitations on these devices I mean like the pro is is I have I have USBC on everything that I own now which
39:39
is awesome like I love having a USBC cable for everything and I can use one charger for all my devices like I really
39:45
love that part of it but now you have like this limitation in place for Apple
39:51
for other manufacturers and like they're going to move much more swiftly than like the bureaucrats in the EU you so
39:58
now they have to we need usbd yeah we would have been on USB X by now you know like who knows who knows
40:04
what's next but just imagine in 10 years the the big limitation is is battery
40:11
power like that's the one thing that really has not moved very much in the last you know I don't even know how many
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years 20 30 years like that lith that lithur that Li Li lith that's the new
40:25
thing you guys never heard of it that's fine you don't keep Battery tech that lithium battery
40:31
technology has been upgraded and made more efficient and made better but what's the next thing for Batteries
40:37
because like you need something that holds just an absolute insane amount of power and solid state batteries and
40:42
super capacitors that's what towards is that a real thing like I I think they're
40:48
going to start making their first solid state electric vehicles like within the next year or two really and like how
40:54
much more capacious the the energy I don't know exactly what
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the difference is but it's much much bigger that's all I know okay it just seems like there needs to be a huge leap forward what are you gonna say leis
41:08
discipline me for my new word I don't really know what a solid state battery is I don't know how it works but I don't
41:14
know how electricity works in fact no one even knows what electricity is I've never seen it well
41:22
show it to me have you ever seen one of those balls at Spencer Lewis that's it dispensers still exist I
41:29
think so if you want to see electricity that's it right there that's
41:35
how it works like the all the little blue things go flying around and when they Collide they create a power
41:41
exchange okay but we know how to control electricity but we actually don't even know what it is I don't think we
41:46
actually know what it is like we just know how to control it Griffin is Griffin is scowling and looking dubious
41:52
I think that's actually true tell keep me Keep Me honest here chat do we know what electricity is does anyone actually
41:57
no I I took two levels of physics in college and what is it it's it's electrons that condu well sure it's
42:04
electrons well understood we know it's Behavior but like we don't know necessarily why it works the way that it
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works or what like it actually is in the whole I don't know physicists know quite a lot about electricity I know I know
42:17
they know quite a lot but you're only proving my point they know it's Behavior they know how to manipulate it but like
42:22
what is it okay nobody knows okay then all right let's move on
42:30
Griffin's clearly unprepared to have this argument about electricity and the origins of human life but let's see he
42:37
might be the only one that's prepared for it let's move on we have no time for this let's move on like let's uh something that Griffin look over there
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is prepared for the massive changes potentially coming to iOS 19 and Mac OS
42:50
16 Griffin what do we got going on here I'm excited about this well a redesign in the coming
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months will supposedly make iOS and Mac OS much more alike this is a quote from flark Burman the revamp due later this
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year will fundamentally change the look of the operating systems and make Apple's various software platforms more
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consistent uh the broad changes will affect the most basic features of the various operating systems including
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quote icons menus apps windows and system buttons according to German's
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unnamed sources bu in apple uh quote the design is Loosely based on the Vision Pro Software says the report Vision OS
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uses more translucent Design Elements and they use much more like the of the frosted glass like material on Windows
43:35
and things like that a previous rumor indicated Apple intends to bring the Luke of vision OS to other platforms
43:41
though earlier we thought this would don't be like you know peace meal coming to the camera app and maybe another few
43:47
apps one by one but apparently it's this new look and design is coming to all the operating systems all at
43:54
once the modifications in iOS 19 16 allegedly will be more than simply
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cosmetic you know bring up that Steve Jobs quote design isn't just how it looks and how it works yeah uh quote the
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company is working to simplify the way users navigate and control their devices so user interace elements themselves
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will or might change with this redesign um and if this turns out to be
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true then we'll of course see it at wwc2 which is now scarily close only like two
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and a half oh my gosh you're right which I might be gone when WWDC happens do we know the
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date approximately I mean it's always the first or second week in June okay I
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leave yeah I leave after the first week so you all might be doing this show
44:45
without me or maybe I can call in or something from the airplane so I'm going on vacation you're
44:51
leaving Ed Ed Hardy is also one of our writers is also leaving in June like why why do people schedule who cover Apple
44:58
schedule of vacations in June look it's it it's every year I this was not my
45:04
choice I wanted to go on vacation in September because we're going to well
45:10
we're going a couple places we're going to Georgia and then we're going back to Orlando Florida
45:17
jents going back to Disney World Disney World again huh going to Disney World again I I didn't think it would happen
45:24
when we went the first time which was 2022 I believe I was like this is
45:30
probably a once-in-a-lifetime thing like this is going to be something that we do once and then that will probably be it
45:35
and then I was talking to my wife because she wanted to go visit her family and I said well look one of the
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most expensive Parts about going to Disney World is just getting there and
45:48
like we're going to be going there anyway we could drive to Orlando now I've since come to realize although the
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flights there is one of the most expensive parts it's certainly nowhere close to being the most expensive part it's just one of
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the most expensive Parts there are plenty of other expensive Parts like the tickets to Disney World are insane
46:06
they're so expensive and the lodging is outrageous Slap Yo Mama outrageous Le
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I'm bringing it back and so it's still going to be a ridiculously expensive
46:19
trip and you know what to be honest with you I don't know if you all follow Disney L you probably don't so let me
46:26
fill you win Disney World is in the midst of a massive like refurbishment
46:32
and overhaul they're going to be reportedly tearing down huge parts of the park which I won't even get into
46:39
that it's only going to make me mad and they're going to be adding new um
46:44
sections of the park and like all this work basically kicks off in 2025 and so
46:50
they're closing down a bunch of stuff across all their parks at Disney World um so there's going to be like
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construction going on there going to be a bunch of stuffed closed not the greatest time to go but it's probably
47:01
the best time to go if you want to go for the next three or four years because I I would not go back until all that construction work is done it's going to
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absolutely be worth it an even better time to go would be the third week in June or even the first week in July no it's the
47:15
worst time to go the best time to go is like midt because that's when the prices plummet because summer vacation is over
47:22
it's still warm although it's still pretty hot to be honest with you but you want to get the before all the Halloween
47:27
festivities start in October because the prices go back up because Halloween's like a really popular time to go to the park so like September's a really great
47:33
time to go and that's when I wanted to go but I was June is also a great time to do an apple podcast but you know look
47:42
I'll just I'll just call in and I'll be talking about the Apple news and then you hear me go ah as I'm going down like
47:50
the like the huge drop in Splash Mountain although they don't call it Splash Mountain anymore I do cuz yeah
47:56
will always be Splash Mountain to me what do they call it now Avengers water tank no although that
48:05
would have been better than what they changed it into I'm not talk maybe you should head north and instead of going
48:11
south to there you Mak should head north and go to Dollywood you know I've often heard that
48:17
Dollywood is a lot of fun I've always wanted to go but I've never I've never actually taken it seriously and tried to
48:24
make plans to go do it but maybe we should maybe we should L he great things uh
48:31
anyway we got lots of stuff to keep talking about don't we should we keep going yeah I think that's it for the
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updates on iOS and Mac OS do you have anything else you want to talk about there
48:44
Griffin yeah um I'm little sad yeah yeah I
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do believe it or not I I my notes did not include anything on Disney World but
48:56
um anytime I hear like really news about Mac OS makes me scared because I like
49:02
the way Mac OS works right now I mean yeah if if anything especially with uh news that doesn't involve Allen Dy no
49:09
longer being in charge of the Mac because I mean ever since Big Sir the Mac has only gotten worse and worse
49:16
buttons are harder to find things are hidden and pushed out of the way and when I I kind of agree with you yeah oh
49:23
they're going to make it more like iOS that just makes me scared yeah yeah I definitely don't want to see a convergence of those two os's in any
49:31
primary way because they're completely different os's meant for different interaction methods so I think it makes
49:37
uh it makes sense for them to unify them visually to a degree but beyond that they don't need to be the same things
49:44
they need to remain distinctly different because they have completely different use cases now I will say I'm thinking
49:49
about the most extreme version of this like making it look and work like Vision OS yeah like what if they you know on
49:57
Vision OS like every window has like that little white bar on the bottom with a little like dot next to it to close and like the the white bar on the bottom
50:03
is what you look at to like you know pinch and grab and move Windows around like that I can kind of see that
50:09
interface element working on an iPad or an iPhone because it's already kind of similar to how the home bar works or how
50:14
you resize windows on the iPad and Stage manager but like oh God what if that's like the big new user interface element
50:20
that they bring to the Mac like Windows don't have title bars anymore they just have a white little hovering thing on
50:25
the bottom that you click and drag to move around and oh you don't have the red yellow and green buttons anymore you
50:31
just have this one one button on the side that just closes it and that's the only control
50:36
like what I think what everybody's really interested though is are they GNA go with the circular app
50:43
icons I hate those things change the app icons again and make everybody make new
50:49
icons again like for the third time in 10 years that's did they really do it
50:55
two times in the last 10 years they made them all make new icons well I I guess with yosity they made everybody
51:01
redraw them to be like the the simpler color palette and then they made them all squircles and they could make them all circles
51:08
yeah yeah I don't know man let's not panic let's just see what happens I mean
51:14
it seems like it's going to be a visual unification but maybe not functional but
51:20
I do like I don't want to have Vision OS on my Mac but one of my favorite Parts
51:26
about OS was the aesthetic like it was really beautiful and thoughtful and in
51:31
intuitive I mean it's just so easy to use which is really um an a a Marvel of
51:38
user experience that they were able to make something that was so easy to use for a completely new Computing Paradigm
51:44
okay look we got to keep moving because I want to get this last segment in where
51:49
we can listen to some user some user to some listener um submissions so let's do
51:57
this story about Siri real fast and I might even skip the smart home story well I'll just tell you it got delayed
52:02
we were expecting it to come soon it got delayed we won't talk any more about it right now but we'll probably feature on Siri because it's actually why it's
52:09
delayed yeah that's true because it it it uh the story says as The Story Goes
52:14
it was relying upon the updated Seri which is not coming right LS not anytime soon that is correct and it's not just
52:20
like every rumormonger and reporter saying it now now Apple itself has confirmed that the smart Seri that they
52:27
promised at WWDC 24 isn't coming together as quickly as anticipated what
52:33
a shocker everybody's just amazingly shocked uh after touting the minor Siri
52:38
upgrades that already rolled out a company statement ended on a depressing note and this is what the Apple
52:44
spokeswoman Jacqueline Roy told I think believe this was a statement that she gave to uh daring Fireball right she
52:51
said quote we've also been working on a more personalized Seri giving it more awareness of your personal context as
52:57
well as the ability to take action for you within and across your apps it's going to take us longer than we thought
53:02
to deliver on these features and we anticipate rolling them out in the coming year wow what does the coming
53:10
year mean right I've heard a lot of people say year like right very vague
53:16
very you know oh everything's going great you know we're just a little longer you know anyway uh can I just add
53:22
real fast just just just as somebody who works in in engineering and in Tech the
53:29
language here is so vague I mean it really sounds like they actually don't know when they will be able to get this
53:35
thing rolled out they're not saying that they're going to get it out this year they're saying we anticipate that we'll
53:40
be able to get it rolled out this year meaning they're talking to like their engineering teams and their engine say
53:46
this year in the coming year which does that mean the next 12 months or does that mean in the current calendar year
53:52
or in the coming year the year to come I mean yeah it sounds like their
53:59
engineering teams are either not sure or don't want to deliver the bad the bad
54:04
news to their managers and say this is not coming anytime soon so like well hey what's going on with Siri well we think
54:11
it's going to be coming in the year right like that's what we think and you deliver the soft message and then later
54:16
it's like oo nope we dug in we realize that's not happening that's not happening we're hoping it's going to be
54:22
next year hoping right like this language is so imprecise it can mean anything it's completely non-committal I
54:28
feel like now we can piece together a timeline of you know iOS 18.4 is
54:34
approaching and approaching and approaching and then by the time like the you know the executives is saying
54:39
okay can we include this new Siri thing in the betas you know whoever's in charge of the project says uh no it's not nearly ready yet they get the boot
54:46
and then as we reported on like a few weeks ago they put somebody else in charge Kim Vera who then takes a good
54:51
look at it and says no we this isn't coming anytime soon and then they have to the statement I feel like that's what
54:57
we can you know drawing between connect the dots there it's and supposedly I think this is also
55:04
from uh I think this is from maybe German's reporting saying that uh Apple Executives including Craig feneri you
55:11
know their main software guy quote voiced strong concerns internally that
55:17
the features didn't work properly or as advertised in their personal testing oh
55:22
really basically Siri doesn't work at all even just just you know right now it doesn't work like they say it does and
55:29
it doesn't it's not anywhere close to what they're we're talking about and like I don't know people this this is
55:34
all bouncing around on X this week you know like look remember these ads that that uh Apple put out around the time of
55:42
uh I guess this is around the time of WWDC talking about how much greater series is going to be you know on iPhone
55:49
16 or whatever uh it's like it's just not even
55:54
close man I mean and and they're taking quite a beating actually uh from people in the Apple
56:01
journalism sphere right talking about how geeez you know they this is like the biggest overpromise and underd deliverer
56:08
like ever I mean these these phones are built from the ground up for Apple intelligence and then none of the Apple
56:14
intelligence stuff is there when you get the phone and then they start to roll it out and they start to roll it out and it's un underwhelming at best so I don't
56:22
know and the thing I think you were talking about this in slack right Griffin like the the this new series is supposed to be you
56:29
know really like conversational like a chat bot and know all about you so it knows like you know for instance you say
56:36
hey uh buy a plane ticket for my my grandma to go to her favorite hotel or something and it somehow pieces that all
56:43
together but so the the danger is that it has to pull all this data about you
56:48
into this workable thing and you know that's like a security risk right and
56:53
and you said this this based on app intense which I don't actually understand what that is maybe you can explain app intense to me and everybody
57:00
else who cares well a lot of these AI powered agents like that the these agentic AI like that's the new buzz word
57:06
you know right trying to make AI actually useful for something for the first time anyways like uh what what
57:13
sets Apple's implementation apart is that it because this new Siri is allegedly based on app intense there's
57:20
much less danger it takes away a lot of the risk because you're not just like throwing full control over your app all
57:26
of your apps and all your data over to an AI That's going to go Rogue and like delete your account or something like
57:33
that like from what we were described again this could be wrong because Apple only
57:38
showed this in a brief demo six months ago and then canel it apparently like what how it was supposed to work we
57:43
think is that you know you give your command to Siri and then Siri uses its
57:49
machine learning algorithms to piece together what you were trying to say what you want to happen it determines if
57:55
it do it or not and then it just you know plugs in and pushes all the buttons using these app intents that actually
58:02
execute on your command so the things that is actually doing the things that's actually you
58:07
know sending the email or booking a flight or reserving a table at a restaurant that's all going to be
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powered by app intense which are the tried andrue things that app developers can do all themselves and you you know
58:19
that they work solidly and reliably apple is the first company that really
58:25
the only company that can pull the this off because apple is the only platform that has this app intense system built
58:30
out to the degree that they do uh but as John Gerber points out Apple tried to show it off thinking that only Apple can
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do this and it turns out not even Apple can pull it off yeah time for I don't know what the
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big I don't know what the big deal is I mean they're worried that launching it
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you know that it's not ready and it's not going to work and to your point earlier leis it's like well that's never
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stopped them before well I mean if it could even just do the the basics things
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that it ought to be able to do right now you know simple things like play such and such a song reliably I me we don't
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know if it can they haven't show they haven't even shown this in private demos I'm talking about the actual one that's
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already live now if they could just they could just make it work the way it's supposed to that would be a huge leap if
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you could say hey turn on my I it's actually pretty good with the homekit stuff you know you say hey turn on such
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and such a light that that typically works but uh I mean within Apple TV and
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and within Apple music it's still is wildly unreliable and I you know don't get me
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started on the transcription stuff I mean it it's terrible at that it's only gotten worse did you see the one like I
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saw I saw you Tweeting about it this week God it just it won't stop I mean am
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I am I saying the word when wrong isn't that how you say when every time I say win in a text message it changes it to
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when you know the the Vietnamese last name n guu Yen which I am I guante toe
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you I have never tried to say that on purpose I don't have any friends with that last name nobody in my context has
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that last name it's just it's unbelievable that it changes the simple
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word win when using a sentence like I don't know when I'm coming over and it changes it to a Vietnamese name I mean
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that is it's just like Peak stupidity that sums it up pretty much right there
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is it doesn't even understand the context of the conversation like it should it should know that it should never use that word in that context
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because that that word never belongs in a sentence in the context uh for which it would normally be used because your
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context doesn't match it it may in fact have even properly gotten it and then changed it to that last name that's the
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absolutely the most frustrating part of it and yeah I mean that has without a doubt gotten worse the more they've
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leaned into AI that that has gotten worse and I don't know I I I mean it
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that doesn't even seem like it should be that hard to fix I mean that that's not that CLE clearly it is hard because they
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would have fixed it by now I mean this has been going on for years yeah but I mean I I don't own an Android
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phone but I I don't hear Android phone users complaining about the Siri that we currently have almost had like a
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Apple had the problem of being the first one of the first to do it and so like when when Siri was originally created in
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like 2010 before Apple acquired it and then in 2011 this they built this whole uh you
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know this whole gigantic feature that is only grown and grown on an old Foundation that they haven't been able
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to like fully replace they built this whole eego system this whole system on you know old technology that was only
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barely viable when it was created and so they they haven't been able to like do the full revamp and it's taking longer
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than they want to fully modernize it yeah well anyway well good the good news
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is uh you know it's coming soon you know within the next fewe you know couple of
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years or whatever one to three years maybe maybe I mean three years maybe every year in the future is coming the
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coming year we got we got this we already got the shiny new interface man I mean isn't that enough yeah it it
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glows when you I don't think the problem is Apple I think the problem is your bad attitude
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lis yeah maybe maybe my pronunciation is just terrible I mean I that could be it too maybe you slur too much were you
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using it at a darts game by chance this was not during a darts match was it after a darts match or or during or
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during the precious warm-up period I was going to say it was it during the prefunc hours when you were maybe
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warming up but not your arm no it was not it was just normal every day trying
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to get some work done just cannot understand the word win yeah well
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it happens to me too mine is H whenever I say has it changes it to Capital H SS
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all right they avocado type of avocado right I mean I'm sorry why does it get hung up on these things and why would it
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why would it have like I mine I think mine has done that that hos at least
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once but does yours do win I've never seen that one no that's I've seen it
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many times and I I would like to know what like somewhere deep inside my own
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little Siri there there's like you know a a cross wire how do I uncross it you
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can't you can't that's it you just have to live with this for the rest of your life and one day it will drive you mad
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but you know what when it when that happens Griffin and I will come visit you probably just once yeah sure I'm
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sure walk into the the baded cell well hold your elbows won't let you into the
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cell slowly you know the the premises all right look we we can't do
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the final segment because we talked got to do it got to do it no we can't we I I am out of time these sweet buns are
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walking out the door in two and a half minutes which means we only have time for this but you know what we will save
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it for next episode I know it is I I'm disappointed this isame you're taking cues from Apple well look oh yeah we're
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got we got this big thing coming it's coming the end of the show oh well you know it's later antip I anticipate that
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in a future episode we might get to it but hold on you got stop we got the music going I got I got to wrap this
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like we're running out of Music how awkward is this going to be if we run out of music do I just restart
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it I feel like that would be it I would just freeze and that would be the end of the
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