Zuckerberg vs. Apple: Is Meta Quest 3 Really Better Than Vision Pro? | The CultCast Breakdown

I don't want to play the video, but come on, bro

Come on, bro. Mark Zuckerberg says Quest 3 is better than the Vision Pro

I mean, the copium he must have huffed to get to this sentence is truly astounding

I know the MetaQuest 3 is good, especially for what it is, but I've seen, I've never worn the MetaQuest 3, so I should put that out there

But I've seen a lot of videos of it, and I'm like, no, the MetaQuest 3 is like a really good Dotson

and this is like a Ferrari. Like they're not even the same category of product almost

Like the MetaQuest 3 is like an entertainment device. And the Vision Pro is like, well, it's a spatial computer

It's something that you could actually wear all the time and live your life in. Although I don't think it's quite there yet

Let's see here. So there's a video out this week in the video Zuckerberg says he always expected the Quest 3 to be a better value for most consumers

He's not wrong about that. Not surprising since the quest starts at just 500

But after using Apple's headset, doggone it, Zuckerberg said he thinks the quest is, quote, is better for the vast majority of things that people use mixed reality for

And then he put the mask on his face and took another huff of the copium. Zuckerberg called Quest, quote, a lot more comfortable

He's probably right about that because it weighs less. And it's not his front heavy

So he's probably right about that. Additionally, the quest lack of wired battery pack means more freedom of movement for users

Probably also true. Let's see here. Additionally, Zuck says, or he highlighted the quest wider field of view, yeah

But none of these things make it better. They were looking for small marketing blurbs they could use to ride the Vision Pro wave and say

well, if you think that Vision Pro is too expensive, you should just try the MetaQuest 3

because in a lot of ways it's better. And he's right, but those ways are not substantial enough to make the MetaQuest 3 better than the Vision Pro in any way, shape, or form

Griffin, you said you had some color commentary on this. Yeah, a lot of people are calling this like a Steve Balmer moment, which I think is a little bit off the mark

Because the funny thing the really hilarious thing about the Steve Balmer iPhone interview video is that Steve Balmer genuinely believes that the iPhone was going to fail and that the Windows phone products of 2007 were better than the iPhone

Hey, they had a keyboard. He's just totally blind to all of the reasons why the iPhone is better

Whereas I think Mark Zuckerberg in this video, it's like the fact that he's making it completely

unprompted tells me that he's concerned about the Vision Pro and that he's, he's true

trying to like there's there's no way he genuinely thinks that the metaquist three is better than the

vision prep there's just no way that is actually i think it's i'm like you can't believe what

you're saying there's no way and and you can tell because like steve balmer is very genuine and mark

zuckerberg comes off incredibly robotically he always does yeah because that's just standard

in his source code because because CEOs aren't good actors like the the base qualities that make a

good CEO are completely antithetical to the qualities that make a good actor. Like, you have to understand human emotions and have sympathy in your heart, which you don't

become the CEO of Facebook by doing that. But like, Mark Zuckerberg, he's just speaking, he's tiptoeing so very carefully in the way

that a CEO obviously would when talking about a competitor's product. But, yeah, it's

I saw some people actually praising that video. And I watched it

I didn't. I thought he actually seemed closer to human than normal. And I thought he made some good points

And what he's trying to do is capitalize on all this interest, right

And he's already solved the biggest pain point by, what, a factor of seven or something, right

I mean, it costs one seventh what Vision Pro costs. That is a – I mean, that makes it an actual thing that you could buy, you know, and not have to worry about it

Like, oh, I use this, you know, once a week to. watch a movie when I'm home by myself

I use this on my my airplane flight when I have to fly to, you know, Ohio on my own

you know? I mean, it's doable at that price. And you could also, as I was earlier, you could get two of them

You wouldn't, if you had to buy two and it costs $1,200, that's still, I mean, think about that

You could buy a whole family one of these things for the price of an Applevision pro I not saying it a better a better product but it is it if people are into this kind of thing

if they want to, you know, take in their entertainment through a headset

I mean, it's kind of a no-brainer. I mean, as far as like, why

I mean, the price difference is so incredibly different. It's also a completely different product. Like

the, If the Vision Pro is the Macintosh, then the meta quest is a Nintendo entertainment system

Like, you know, yeah, it's one's a lot cheaper than the other. One has more games than the other

One doesn't have like a real operating system that you can do work on

And one's, and one's a spatial computer. Yeah, but what did Apple pitch this thing as

The ultimate entertainment device. I mean, that, why? Because it's not that great for doing real work, right

I mean, everybody's, I haven't seen anybody say, oh, yeah, this just kicks the max butt when it comes to actually doing work

Nobody has said that. I've seen some people say, oh, I can do this one thing and it is kind of cool

And, you know, like that one guy said virtual video editing, pro level, Hollywood virtual video editing was great with it

Okay, great. So it's great for, you know, remote work. It's great for collaboration

That's fantastic. And if you're a Hollywood movie director, you can probably afford to buy one of these things

If you're, you know, Joe Sixpack or, you know, Timothy Chardonnay, you're sitting at home and you've got three kids, you're not going to pie every one of them, one of these things, right

And you're not going to feel comfortable, like Erfond says, being in a room with your family members

So, I don't know. I think Zuckerberg was really smart with that video

because he pointed out all the ways that it's similar to Vision Pro

and how it meets many of the needs of people who are interested in buying a Vision Pro

but maybe don't want to spend $3,500, $4,000. Yeah, I mean, to Griffin's point, they are completely different products

You might even say it's apples to oranges. People also said that 1984 Macintosh was a baby computer that couldn do real work either And you know what They were kind of true for the first few years But then a few years later like it found its niche hit in desktop publishing that took advantages of you know the things that the max real strengths

And then it became a hit product. But, you know, it took a few years to get there. Yeah

I imagine we'll see the same thing play out. I mean, none of this is, I don't think what Zuckerberg is saying is this is a superior piece of hardware

and we really beat Apple's engineering team. I think what he's saying is this product is approachable

does many of the things that a Vision Pro does, and hey, if you want to get in on the action

you don't have to mortgage your house. Yeah. I think that's all he's saying

And I think it's a very accurate point, not having worn either one of them, okay

You know, talking completely out my... But, I mean, it seems pretty clear to me, you know

And I remember when, you know, Apple was talking about this thing and spatial computing this, amazing that

next, the future of computing, everything. And then it really kind of shocked me

when a couple of weeks before they opened the preor, it's like, oh, it's the ultimate entertainment device

And I'm sorry, an entertainment device doesn't cost $3,500. You said that like a TV does

but the problem with that is 10 people can watch that, you know, 100, 100 inch awesome TV, right

But it's, I don't know, it's a very, It's a complicated problem

And I think what Zuckerberg did is said, here's a solution to many of those problems

Yeah, look, it's like I said earlier, this thing's going to be everywhere in four or five years

It's going to get to the point where it's so good. Everyone's going to be wearing these, and it's going to replace your iPad

For some people, it may even replace their phones. And the MetaQuest is not on that same trajectory

Like, the MetaQuest is like a video game console. You know, it's something that you may use

use recreationally, but it's a completely different category of products, unless somehow

meta is able to increase the level of functionality to a degree where it can compete with

the Vision Pro, because in my mind, they're completely two different products. Like, the MetaQuest is

an Xbox and the Vision Pro is like a Mac. It's like they just don't do the same things and

they're not meant to. Okay, we, we sufficiently flogged that horse. He's been dead for several

minutes now I just checked his pulse yes he's he's definitely dead