Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. Blasts Steve Jobs For Manufacturing The iPad In China


Jesse Jackson, Jr. Harbors Deep Ambivalence About the iPad
Jesse Jackson, Jr. Harbors Deep Ambivalence About the iPad

The iPad has inevitably made its debut into the congressional debate over the federal budget.

On Friday, Rep. Jesse Jackson, Jr. D-Ill., made reference to it during a rambling monologue concerning America’s budget and the state of our economy on the House floor.

Jackson is holding up the device as a symbol of everything that is wrong with innovation in America today.

He admitted last month that he’d bought one, and that he thinks that every school child should have one in the United States — but he bemoaned the fact that they’re made in China.

“Certainly [the iPad] has made life more efficient for Americans, but the iPad is produced in China,” Jackson said on Friday. “It’s not produced here in the United States. So the Chinese get to take advantage of our First Amendment value, that is, to provide freedom of speech through the iPad to the American people, but there is no protection for jobs here in America to ensure that the American people are being put to work.”

Jackson’s reference to the First Amendment refers to his thesis that America’s constitutional values have led to incredible innovations — but that that innovation hasn’t provided benefits to all Americans.

He made the comment in a floor speech on Friday rebutting the Republican idea of trickle-down economics. Jackson Jr.’s point: Yes, there’s innovation in America, but the only people benefiting from the innovation are in the top echelon of society — people like Steve Jobs.

Because of globalization, policymakers can’t assume that private, profit-maximizing companies like Apple can create jobs for all Americans, Jackson Jr. said.

It’s a problem that is troubling more and more Americans — especially many thought  leaders both in Silicon Valley and in Washington DC.

In fact, it’s the subject of a new book called “Great Again,” coming out soon by Silicon Valley serial entrepreneur Henry “Hank” Nothhaft, CEO of semiconductor miniaturization company Tessera, and former CEO of Danger, the maker of the Sidekick phone.

It’s not clear what Jesse Jackson Jr. expects the government to do in the short term — other than to perhaps require companies to make their products in the United States. His main point, however, was that in his view, it’s the government’s responsibility to enact policies to ensure full employment, and that leaving everything to the private sector won’t work.

For his part, Nothhaft offers a mix of policy solutions that include tax incentives for companies to manufacture in the United States, loans, making permanent a tax credit for  research and development, and trying to get venture capitalists to invest more in manufacturing start-ups.

It’s clear, however, what stiff competition the United States is up against.

In his book, Nothhaft recalls visiting China in February 2010:

where the mayor of a medium-sized city basically offered me the moon if I would open any type of R&D or production facility there. No tax at all for five years. The land and all construction costs for the facility provided free. All utilities paid for three years. Employee salaries paid for three years. Everything else — all taken care of.”

Nothhaft didn’t spell out what he decided, but he did say that he had to do what was best for the company — the same calculus that Apple’s leaders probably made when they decided to use Foxconn to manufacture its products.

  • dankando

    OMG THE US IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, AND ALL OTHER COUNTRIES SUCK. And Americans are the best people in the world. Make the iPad in America! America! America! A-ME-RI-CAAA!!!

    How dare other countries try and take our We Are #1 position from us!!! I love you America!!! Stay strong!

    Freedom of Speech, First Amendment, Incredible Innovations, More Buzz Words, etc. We rock! No other country in the world has what we have!

  • Itsalive

    what an ass

  • Christopher Turcotte

    Let’s not forget about the crisis Apple had in the early 90’s. The way to get Apple profitable again was to eliminate all manufacturing here.

  • mahimahimahi

    Lower the corporate tax rate and maybe jobs will come into the united states (no pun intended). Until then i’m glad they are made in china. I couldn’t imagine how expensive an american made ipad would be. $2,000? $5,000?

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    Look at Germany, unions there are powerful, Germans pay taxes, higher than USA, they taxes High income, but manufacturing still makes 30% of their economy.

    So WTF?

    It is about USA’s way of making biz rather than taxes or lack of incentives.
    As an example, with this financial crisis if Microsoft didn’t have governments from all over the world within its multiple pockets, can you imagine how bad would Microsoft be?

    Industries ( German and Japanese, S. Korea economy ) are more sustainable than financial gymnastics warped in shenanigans ( USA current economic bed ).

    So he never used nothing from China?
    Strange how people freaks with apple success, Apple does’t rely on government contracts as HP and DELL and all Windows vendors PC makers.
    Without china apple would have NOT exist as we know it today.

    And Please say thanks to Chinese people “capitalist” party. china has been paying for USA cheapness.

    Change your mentality, or Germans will buy your country.

  • Amazed

    If the iPad wasn’t manufactured in China it would cost twice as much.

  • CharliK

    So Mr Jackson how about some incentives to make local production less costly than going overseas. You can pay for them by not giving you and the rest of Congress big raises and expense accounts, particularly when you can’t finish a budget without putting the country in fear of a shutdown

  • 5imo

    the us is great in economics and culture but politically, socially or in education its terrible.

  • 5imo

    the us is great in economics and culture but politically, socially or in education its terrible.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    Do you ever ASK why China buys more from Germany and France than from USA?
    In France and Germany the Rich pay more than the rest.

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  • MikeLP83

    Next Article

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    USA underground music ( where “A” artists lurks ) , its modern composers from the 60s, do not forget Western minimalism came out of NY, as well no wave. Forget punk it was bult after Bo Diddley.

    Jazz gave birth to Roll and Roll and influenced Free improvisation and even European modernism, Blues fueled psychedelic rock and the crapy hard rock.

    And yes!
    Pop Art, which i do nor like as much of HollyWood.

    Not much thinkers as the French or Germans, but USA did contribute for Earth finnest culture.

  • Connor Mulcahey

    an inconvenient truth…

  • WhatAshame

    This country is so eat up with reality tv, Xbox and NASCAR to ever make a device like the iPad. Just watch the commercials on the television, they are targeted at the largest demographic of people, notice how stupid they are?

  • Multi_moog

    What country are you living in?

  • Allan Cook

    I hope Junior calls out every other American company that has its products assembled in China.

  • AgirlyGirl

    You sir, are an american idiot.

  • John T

    *double facepalm*

  • Oscar Gutierrez

    I hope it was sarcasm…
    If not… Could you die PLEASE?…

    FIRST: (For you and all the people who live in the US) America is a CONTINENT!! There are so many countries in America some of them are Canada, US, Mexico, Honduras, Belice, Guatemala, Cuba, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Panama, Chile, Brasil, Peru, Paraguay, Argentina, Uruguay…

    SECOND: A country is a simple zone limited by a imaginary line… There is no real difference between you and the people in other countries, except for the language and maybe your need of consumerism, so STOP saying all of that SHIT…

    THIRD: I really feel a headache by people like you, you’re so DOMINATED by the government… How is possible you could ignore ALL the deficiencies the US has?

    Because of people like you, all the other countries HATE the US…

    OK. Now I hope you read this before it is deleted by the moderator…

  • Ronald Stepp

    If it WAS made in the US it would cost 2 to 3 times as much. Once we get people like Jackson out of our faces and our businesses, maybe then we CAN make the iPad here.

  • dankando

    Yep, it was sarcasm, I don’t even live in the US :P

  • Fredastair

    Jealous much?

  • Alexander530

    Business is business. I do agree with him to a degree. But business has to make money and survive to be able to compete. If other countries provide better incentives for businesses then why not venture out there? Apple has a lot of stores here in the US as well, providing jobs to US citizens and residents. If outsourcing to another country is cost-effective, and LEGAL, then I don’t see anything wrong with it. It’s called FREEDOM Mr Jackson.

  • HenryFordJr

    He conveniently left out the productivity gains to Americans from using iPads, the increase in the number of and revenues of American businesses which support iPad apps, accessories, etc., the Mac-based businesses that pick up new clients switching to Mac, and of course the American’s who invested in AAPL.

    So did he sell his iPad or…

  • Dae Myung

    So easy to say “Hey why is not made in USA”

  • ctt1wbw

    Jesse just jealous that Jobs just makes more juice than he does.

  • newbill123

    Apple used to used domestic labor to manufacture products from components. The US (and Irish) production lines of Apple II’s and Macintoshes were engineered almost as tightly as the machines themselves. And they simply were not price competitive. Within 5 years the “uniqueness” of each line was lost to competitors copying their designs and using oversees manufacturing to cut the price. Apple would not be around today if they demanded only American labor.

    !!Warning, politics follows!! (bail out now if this bothers you). The largest country receiving interest on the US National Debt is China. This is almost the quintessentially perfect example of a group (the US government) that should straighten out its own backyard (the debt) before telling others how to straighten up theirs. Private companies compete in a capitalist market, if they can’t compete then they can not survive.

    !!More Politics, sorry!! I am guessing Jesse Jackson Jr. got a lot of angry feedback about his recent proposal that every school kid should have an iPad. This is his way of getting back on the good side of his supporters. It will amount to nothing more than maintaining his political base so I’m done with this issue until it appears to go beyond that.

  • Travis284

    What a boob. It would make it impossible for most Americans to afford Apple products at all.

  • Robert Pruitt

    I’m expecting a capital -D after his name. Well sir, start with Walmart and then work your way down to Apple. They are the ones that set the expectation of cheap Chinese manufacturing.

  • CharliK

    Not if the Government did something to help out that issue. Like tax cuts, subsidies for companies that hire tech workers, grants for schools that train them.

    Hell they could probably create whole programs to hire high school dropouts or homeless folks who would live in dorms and have to attend classes, job training etc.

    But it takes the Government wanting to do anything and thus far they haven’t shown that willingness

  • Thiswayup999

    The factories would have to be twice as big to accomidate the average American workers Ass. Imagine how big the work stations would have to be. I don’t think the average American worker could stand up for a 12 hour shift either.

    Bottom line is if we were producing iPad’s in America it wouldn’t be released in numbers until 2014.

  • Alex

    And just think how much cheaper it could be if they used Chinese prison labor instead of Foxconn…

  • Honyant

    That is all true except for the bit about economics and culture.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    Not a country.
    Planet EARTH!

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    He will NOT.
    Apple success is unacceptable for many.
    Google creates more jobs outside USA than Apple, not to say Microsoft with their licensing scheme biz type to take over the world.

  • Honyant

    Here’s some more politics.The U.S. government won’t straighten out its own backyard (the Debt) as long as they are being run by private industry. Private industry likes the brand of socialism that bails it out of self created debt, they can take great advantage of that.

  • xmattingly

    Is this the same scumbag that tried to BUY a Senate seat from another notoriously corrupt politician? The same thug who antagonized another Congressman, then challenged him to a fist fight?

    I can’t imagine any reason why this political hack should be given the time of day on the issue of overseas production; let alone that, as the author says, he failed to articulate what would incentivize American manufacturing of electronics.

  • Bob Forsberg

    Stupidity obviously runs in the family.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira


    That is socialism, don’t you know, like the benefits from the government Boeing receives ( and still cannot compete with European AirBus ), NASA?
    But who is government?

    It is you, you elect those crass ass, remember?

    Business is about profit, but when there is NO heart, it goes abroad.
    Wonder WHY Germans and French ( who penalize companies who goes abroad with heavy tax ) keep their industries?

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    USA prison labor you mean?

    That is a great idea.
    Instead of doing nothing beside taking drugs, people in prison should be working.
    They say working makes you FREE.

  • oriorda

    This Jackson ‘analysis’ of the issue is light on facts. Yes, we in the West have been dumb to send most of our assembly and manufacturing offshore. We can see the devastation this has caused to former industrial centres like Detroit. But this is a societal issue, not a company issue. We need laws and tax regimes to incent companies to make at home.

    In the specific case of the iPad, my understanding is that the total assembly cost is around $8. That’s what China makes out of the deal. The bulk of the profit is made onshore, in the US.

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    Private industry has the money, they can buy politicians thru fear of distorting the news if the money is not enough.
    Fox News?

    Like it or not, money matters.
    Wonder WHY Japanese car makers open factories in the USA and Europe even though they only work as extension of Japanese factories. It is called strategy.
    In the case of USA company it is called money first.
    In the case of apple is survival, PC and android cartels do the same.

    How many parts of iPad is fabricated by USA’s companies should be the reason for debate. I mean the battery is made by Apple, but the rest?

  • Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira

    Jobs makes one dollar a year, no?

    Apple success is too much for many people.

  • CamilloMiller

    The iPad is so iconic, everybody use it as a unit of measure of an entire category. And that’s wrong, since A) it’s the excellence of the category and shouldn’t be used to make broader examples, and B) it’s from a company that gives a pretty solid job to thousands of people in the U.S., both in retail stores and Cupertino. And, if I remember right, it’s from a company that just invested 1 bln dollar in a huge complex in one of the most depressed areas of North Carolina.
    The bottom line is: rep Jackson, your point is right but don’t you forget you live in a country who drew his greatness from capitalism. And, you know, gettin’ the highest profit possible in the market without breaking any law looks a lot like good capitalism.

  • Virgil Bierschwale

    let me show all of you experts what we are doing to ourselves as we create sweatshops around the globe with zero remorse.…

    As for competing, that is only a lie that the Tokyo Rose Global Propaganda group better known as the media portrays, and by the way, they are owned by the same big businesses that tell them we must compete.

    However if you will look at the latest GDP numbers, you will realize that only 11% comes from exports.

    Are we really competing against somebody, or are we just implementing ever decreasing wages in america so that we can remove the regulations that gave us the quality of life that we have come to expect?

    I for one believe that we need to raise the salaries of all the other countries to Americas levels so that we can compete on a apples to apples basis and also so that others must not be worked to death just to survive and die a slow tortured death in our sweatshops.

  • zazou1

    It seems that Jackson Jr. is following in his daddy’s footsteps of extorting money from companies. It would be nice if they were made here but in order to accommodate the Unions ridiculous wages and packages the cost of an IPad would be a minimum of $1000.

  • Buba

    Fuck You.

  • MacawMan

    I hate to agree with him, but I do… We need to bring jobs back to the U.S. and Apple could really start the ball rolling. I’m to the point now where I am really looking at American made products so we can keep our folks employed and not continue down this economic slope of decline.

  • ggore

    I can’t even IMAGINE just how much the iPad would cost, were it manufactured in the U.S. Good lord, $2-3000 maybe? Union-labor salaried workers? The mind just boggles!!!!

  • Thiswayup999

    The Truth get’s you fired up a little Huh? That’s good. If more people got fired up and actually did something, instead of following along like Sheep, the world would be a better place. You have taken the first step.

    Now do something Useful !!!!!

  • SteroidsBlog

    would our fat fingers be able to do the job as well as workers in Asia ?

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  • AdamZSG

    Can you really blame companies for actually wanting to make a profit? If companies don’t make profits, then obviously they cannot hire anyone. The issue is not that executives are searching the globe for financially viable locations to set up shop before they even consider the United States out of choice – the issue is that they have no choice but to do so. Here in the United States, we currently have some of the highest corporate tax rates in the World. Let that sink in… We have let politicians (on both sides of the aisle) spend our money into oblivion – our money. To make up for the ridiculous amount of money they spend, they have consistently raised taxes on the most productive citizens in our country leaving a horrible environment to start and run a company successfully, therefore reducing the number of large corporations we see producing here in the country. Add to that the tens of thousands of pages of new regulations added every single year and it’s no wonder that Steve Jobs has said there is no way he and Wozniak could start Apple in his garage the same way again.

    Just one man’s opinion…

    – Adam Z.

  • jonathanOz

    I think to a certain extent, Jackson’s comments are gratuitous, but they do pose a greater issue. Corporations are asking for, nay demanding, tax breaks and preferential treatment ostensibly because helping them helps the economy of the United States. They then export their jobs overseas because of greater efficiencies under the hubris that their only obligation is to their shareholders. I am sorry, either you’re interesting the economy of the US or you’re interested solely in maximizing shareholder profits.

    You can not logically demand preferential treatment of ostensibly American corporations based on their benefit to the economy, and then deny the benefit because it doesn’t serve your interests.

    As for Jobs’ $1 salary. That ignores his stock options which only get taxed as capital gains. Make no mistake, Jobs is not a philanthropist.

  • Ronald Stepp

    Rightttt, lets have the government give us even more of the same crap that’s the root of the problem ALREADY. I’ll assume you were being sarcastic with that reply.

  • Howie Isaacks

    You are so right! It’s a shame that we have to build these devices in other countries to keep the cost low. Otherwise, the unions would push the price of electronics so sky high that none of us could afford them. Jackson needs to shut the hell up, and focus on government getting out of our lives instead of trying to find ways to intrude even more. I don’t give a rat’s ass what this idiot thinks. I’m glad my own congressman (Sam Johnson (R) TX) doesn’t run his mouth like this.

  • Howie Isaacks

    It’s really sad, but you’re probably right. I used to work a 12 hour shift a Texas Instruments. It was very tedious and boring. I remember there were a lot of lard asses on that assembly line. They demanded chairs to sit in, and took smoke breaks just about every hour!

  • MacawMan

    Nice attitude!

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  • Robert Pruitt

    Although I don’t think you achieved the objective of getting an accurate point across, your enthusiasm more than makes up for it.

  • Equality 7-2521

    Yes, let’s all listen to Mr. King and his vast experience running multi million dollar corporations, and maybe, just maybe, the tech industry will one day end up just like the auto industry in this country.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    Um last time I checked it was because Jobs got his ass kicked out of Apple by the dumb asses on the Apple board who then turned around and started making shit buggy products. But hey what do I know keep paying the 400, 300, 200 dollar Apple tax premium while more Chinese workers continue working 16 hour days and jumping off of buildings.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    (face palm)
    I wish N America would send people like you to China to work on the Foxxconn production floor.

    I hope your Mac blows up in your face.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    No it wouldn’t you dumb S.O.B. You’d pay more but not double. Stop acting like such a cheap bratty douche.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    How about we just tell the 7 figure CEO’s who sit on their fat asses behind a desk all day fucking around that if they don’t want to have their pay cheque’s and companies taxed through the ass all the way up to the eyeballs they better find ways to keep/create job’s and stop exporting them abroad so they can pay someone a dollar a day. That would work very well I think.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    you mean like you?

  • iHate_Is_Back

    You sir are an imbecile.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    No it’s not called freedom you dumbass. It’s called some rich idiot using his money and political connections so he/she can pay other people who happen to be stuck in a less then free political system 5 dollars a day so they can shove more money in their fat wallets all the while laughing at morons like you. Last time I checked that was called SUPPORTING FASCISM. Tell me something Yankee, are you one of those people who think political freedom and civil rights is only meant for white America? From your post you seem to be one of those idiots. As for your bullshit legal statement at one time black slavery was legal. Just because it was legal didn’t mean it was right. Think about it fool.

  • CharliK

    how about the 7 figure government. Same guys that give themselves raises while education and health care are in the crapper. happens on the state level and on the federal.

    Fact is that those CEOs are hired to make money for the company shareholders. And like it or not, foreign labor means more money.

    In my own industry we deal with runaway production a lot. States like New York and Louisiana bend over as much as they can to have shows set in those areas actually film there instead of in LA or Canada. why not apply that game plan to more industries. With the right encouragements Apple and others might be willing to at least manufacture what will be sold in the US in the US. Even if the world supply comes from China or else. So what if it is socialist thinking. perhaps that is what we need rather than just knee jerking it away as something evil.

  • Jeremy


    Thats all I’m going to say.

  • CharliK

    It’s not all that bad an idea. Many prisons with work programs (in or out of the prison) do so with the idea that teaching the prisoners a skill means they can get a job when they get out and thus are (hopefully) less likely to commit a crime again. So why not incorporate prison workers into the mix. Not serial killers and such but misdemeanor level folks

  • iHate_Is_Back

    I think you should shut the hell up and get back to your rewarding job cleaning toilets.

  • Mail Phisch

    His parties tax and environmental policies are what are driving manufacturing out of the US. Can’t really blame Apple for doing what makes sense.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    Once the white collar smarten up and understand that they have to give up a little to get a little in return then I’ll start giving up a little. Until these rich idiots stop making flowery speeches using catch phrases such as “we all have to tighten our belts” all the while giving themselves sizable raises while the average person takes wage cuts or loses his/her job there’s absolutely nothing me or anyone else should give up. Case in point look at Carol Bartz the CEO of Yahoo. She’s done nothing to increase Yahoo’s market share and has only succeeded in laying off people year after year and sending those jobs to India. To top it all off she laid those employees off just before Xmas. That’s just cold and callous. As far as I’m concerned its her incompetence that cost those employees their jobs not the market. She has done nothing that can be said is positive for Yahoo and definitely doesn’t deserve her 7 figure salary.

    As for foreign labor my overriding concern has always been that the average person be treated humanely no matter where they live. The facts show that companies don’t give a crap about foreign labor and couldn’t care less if Juan or Chan Yon Faht make enough to eat. They only care about maximum profit for their companies which leads to fatter salaries for themselves. We all seem to forget that a lot of these backwater banana republics become powerful because of hard capitol created by foreign investment from the industrialized world. It kind of amuses me how people seem to have such short memories. Hussein of Iraq would have never stayed in power so long if it wasn’t for American and European support and that eventually bit the U.S.A and Europe in the ass. You really think those communist fools in Shanghai could have stayed in power all this time if it wasn’t for all the money flowing into the govt coffers generated by N. American and European investment. I wonder how long its going to be until the world finds out they’re going to be bitten in the ass again? Those little gadgets everyone wants for cheap will eventually cost lives both Chinese and others.

    I do understand where you’re coming from though. To bad this isn’t a world where people actually use their heads more constructively instead of talking through their butts.

    Just my 2 cents

  • firesign

    Or your Dell PC, also made at Foxconn. Not to mention several others.

  • iBilly

    We probably should stop driving cars too. Most of them are not made in the US.

  • Tom112gostate

    i see far too many taking (cluless) shots at the white collared fat cats who actually create jobs for our citizens. When’s the last time you had topull a line of credit to make payroll or pay unemployment taxes or payroll taxes, for that matter??? Your post just shows your ignorance regarding how business actually works. Go start your own private company before you pass judgement on those who put it all on the line. Yes, they get the reward when a profit is realized; they also take it in the shorts when they’re running in the red!

  • mahimahimahi

    Get off your high horse. China has an economy too. If we would pull all production out of china, then there would be a massive starvation OF THE CHINESE PEOPLE followed by large pandemics while their economy collapses. Ignorant idiots like yourself need to get out of la-la land. Ideology is comprised of ideals. Reality is real. Sometimes I think people have forgotten what reality is.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    Here’s the reality you stupid cunt, people in China are being used to make your gadgets so assholes like you can sit in suburbia and act like losers on the net. I don’t want those jobs in China to disappear I want the people in those jobs to be treated humanely and not like robots and be properly compensated for a honest days work so they’re not forced to work 16 hour days to make ends meet. Next time you post a reply know what the hell you’re yammering about or STFU.

  • Howie Isaacks

    I’m an Apple Consultant actually, and you’re a moron with nothing better to do with his time than trash others who are obviously more intelligent than you are.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    Oh so you work at the Apple Store wearing a blue t shirt and giving out high 5’s well good for you. I hope you’re having fun at the Genius Bar showing people how to hold their iPhone 4’s properly and telling others there’s no more iPads in stock. I give you 6 months before you’re sending emails out to the CrApple site.

    You’re not a consultant you’re a store clerk. Just because you’re given a fancy shmancy job title doesn’t mean you’re doing anything more then being a gopher for customers. A real consultant has a degree and works in an office crunching number’s and studying facts and trends. They don’t spend their time demoing iPod’s and running to the back stock room to grab a Macbook Air. I can use the name custodial engineer all I want in the end the job being described is nothing more then a janitors job. You’re a store clerk friend and nothing more and it doesn’t take a lot of intelligence to do that sort of work it takes a thick skin and a good pair of shoes for running around all day.

    I don’t like to come across as being mean but I’m rather pissed at your attitude that organized labor is 100% responsible for the economic mess in the industrialized world.

  • mahimahimahi

    Here is a little fact about myself. I’m an extreme environmentalist and human rights supporter. Don’t assume that I don’t care about the Chinese workers and their rights being violated. I do care. I also care about the Chinese landfills that are absolutely destroying the environment because they are filled with old electronics. I care about the villagers that are drinking the water spewing from those toxic sites. Are you really as involved in the situation there as you try to make it seem? Do you really know what is going on or do you only repeat (like a parrot) what the media has told you to say. Foxconn is not a bad place. The workers at foxconn are not in sweat shops. Don’t let the western quality of life cloud your vision on what is good and what is horrible. What is not covered by the news should concern you (you know, the real sweat shops). Do some research.

  • yoshi

    maybe you should get your facts straight before you go on an ignorant rant. An Apple Consultant doesn’t work at an Apple Store. They are not Apple Employees. Most own their own business, and had to take several thousand dollar tests and study a lot to pass the tests you need to take to become and Apple Consultant. You need to be at least an Apple Certified Pro to even qualify to carry the name “Apple Consultant”. so shut up.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    Why would anyone need a consultant for an Apple product? According to the people who come on here Apple products are supposed to be magical, intuitive devices that never ever break down. (rolls eyes)

    I couldn’t resist and had to throw that comment out.

    OK OK yoshi you made your point. I’ll back off its just I find it hard to accept some peoples thinking that this mess is solely the cause of organized labor.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    Oh yeah right, the salaries of CEO’s have been going through the roof for the last 3 decades. If laborers wages had rocketed up there like those of the CEO’s had everybody would be making 60 bucks an hour. Whether they screw up or not it doesn’t matter they still laugh all the way to the bank. They don’t put anything out on the line anymore. As much as I dislike Steve Jobs at least he’s honest enough to gear his real salary by how well the Apple stock performs. What that means is if Apple does well he does well but if the stock fails then he financially fails along with it. I wouldn’t be half as pissed about all these overpriced CEO’s if most of them actually preserved/created jobs but most of them are only concerned with exporting jobs so they can pad their quarterly revenue reports.

  • iHate_Is_Back

    Dude are you for real? This is China not Britain or France. China doesn’t give two hoots about human rights never mind the environment. They more then proved that when they murdered their own students in Tienanmen square. They more then proved that when the Dalai Lama had to flee into exile when China invaded Tibet. An they more them proved it when they chose to politically and militarily support N. Korea who also has a huge list of human rights violations. Most of those factories were set up to generate foreign investment and much needed capitol for the communist govt. They exist for that sole purpose alone. The Chinese govt and the business people who run them couldn’t care less about the people who work there or their well being. I’ve had a problem with China since way back in 89 when I saw on TV the tanks roll through the square of Tienanmen. An for your information yes I have been involved and I have researched the subject and I know what I’m talking about. You want to really help those people and save the environment then admit there’s a problem and admit part of the problem is foreign companies from the West turning a blind eye to obvious human rights violations. Just because you like a certain brand name doesn’t mean you should turn a blind eye, you’re smarter then that or at least should be.

  • Sam