While Apple goes thin, Windows PCs go fat at CES 2017

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Need extra ports? Have fun lugging this beast around.
Need extra ports? Have fun lugging this beast around.
Photo: Acer

CES2017 Apple got some serious flak from fans when it unveiled its new MacBook Pro at the end of 2016, but if CES 2017 is any indicator, Apple’s not in danger of being out innovated by PCs anytime soon.

The MacBook Pro’s Touch Bar may not be a phenomenal innovation. And its four USB-C ports mean you’ll need some dongles. But when looking at the competition, the MacBook Pro is hands-down the sleekest, most useful and most beautiful laptop you can get in the world right now.

Look at these embarrassing Windows laptops:

Razer’s three-headed monster

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Gaming your ass off at a coffee shop with Razer’s three-screen laptop sounds like a dream. Until the barista accidentally crashes into your giant display and breaks a panel off. No word on how much this “Project Valerie” machine will cost, but at 1.5-inches, it’s thicker than Razer’s other laptops and heaver too.

Acer’s curved screen laptop

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You will probably never see Acer’s ridiculous curved screen gaming laptop in the wild. Not just because it’s so heavy no nerd can lift it, but also because at $9,000 no one can afford it.

Samsung’s sick trackpad

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Samsung revealed it is getting into the gaming laptop business to with its new Odyssey line of laptops. The only real innovation Samsung brings to the table though is an ugly trackpad and red-lit keyboard.

Lenovo’s Legion lineup

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Lenovo makes some of the thinnest laptops in the world, but for CES 2017 it went big with its new Predator laptop lineup. The beastly Lenovo Y720 packs a multicolor backlit keyboard, Dolby Atmos audio, a tons of ports, and a glowing Y logo in the back so people will wonder who the hell made your ugly laptop.

  • racerhomie2

    Windows has gone Full Retard

    • Raiden

      Not really you dumbfuck. These are gaming machines and can still beat the MBP in every aspect except for weight. So suck a dick you fanboy piece of shit

      • PegasoneInc

        It’s okay, he wants a beautiful design and you want performance, you are both right from where you’re each of you sitting.

      • Texas

        disagree. Gaming yes PC will rape mac there is no question, but run Final Cut against anything on a PC and you will feel the power of the MacBook Pro 2016. Apple software works best, second Adobe. The problem is when you have to add a powerful CPU it draws immense power and creates incredible heat but it can also play games at the expense of portability… Which begs the question, why not build a tower gaming rig and MBP for the road? Remote Access Play

      • John Murgen

        Do you even game bro?

      • John Murgen

        This is Apple’s advantage of tuning their software to their hardware. I think if you compared Premiere on two similar spec’ computers, one from Apple and one from any PC maker, you get pretty similar results. The key here is similar machines, not some gimped up sub $500 PC that most Apple users point to in their examples.

      • Raiden

        Sadly the MBP packs a very weak CPU for the price you need to pay, any of these gaming beasts can beat the MBP in terms of rendering in Adobe PS, not very sure about the rest as I do not know most of Apple software.

        If I were ever to go to MacOS I’d just buy a Razer Blade 2016 and install MacOs in there

      • racerhomie2

        Or one could just add an eGPU to a MBP and use BootCamp for gaming.

      • Raiden

        Would be an extreme bottleneck with that CPU the MBP has.

      • racerhomie2

        For most games I dont think so

      • jameskatt

        Intel CPUs over the past 8 years have had the same CPU power. The only difference is the frequency. But then that is limited before you have to get liquid cooling.

    • Nextum

      This article is proof just how pathetically incompetent iSheep are.
      The only Mac argument is “at least our laptops are pretty”. Good job, you’re all officially on the intellectual level of pre-teen girls.

  • Peter

    3 screens on a laptop…
    Ventilation vents with ‘caution, hot surface’ warnings…
    Laptops that weigh 9kg…

    If this is ‘real innovation’ i would rather just stick with Apple’s innovation…

    • David Moore

      They are gaming machines….

      • Docservlet

        They made Compaq Portable computers in the 80s. These devices are very reminiscent of those 28 pound machines.

        These are roughly the same weight and size. How far we haven’t come in PC world.

      • John Murgen

        Exactly, no one said innovation, its max horse power first, small second or third, not Apple’s small first and screw everything else approach.

    • Jack Silsan

      Jerk

  • OUsooner08

    Owning the new MBP I can say the touch bar is an innovation and absolutely awesome, I wouldn’t want to go non-touch bar. Also STOP with the dongle madness, there are plenty of inexpensive hubs on the market that come with all sorts of configuration of ports that should suit MOST users.

    • David Moore

      Its a money Grab….. Thats why people are mad.

      • Steve

        That’s your opinion, personally I like the machine as do the others in office.

      • Raiden

        iSheep

      • Steve

        Wow, what a well thought out intelligent response. I own Macs and PCs in my business. I also have a custom built gaming rig at home. Just because I appreciate my Mac that I use for business doesn’t make me an isheep. Which honestly calling someone iSheep is the dumbest thing ever and pretty much ensures no one will consider anything else you say or write as productive or intelligent.

      • John Murgen

        I think the term comes from fans who so quickly and without reserve defend an ‘innovation’ that requires additional purchases to connect a simple thumb drive to a laptop that costs $2500+. While yes USB-c is the future but deprecating everything I own or causing me to by more, should see less defending and more questioning by Apple users, of which I am one. Check out the new X1 from Lenovo, a nice balance of oldish and new ports, and a good keyboard.

      • Docservlet

        “causing me to by more” lol….really?

        What did you do when Apple and other OEMs removed the CD/DVD drive? Whine incessantly about the removal of legacy technologies or adapt? I think Apple was right to rip off the band aid. We all have to adapt and start changing our purchasing habits as USB C becomes there prevailing form factor. And also, why would you fret about a $10 adapter? Is it that much of a hardship?

        Apple makes the engineering decisions it sees fit and users are free to roam the marketplace for something else that suits their needs.

      • John Murgen

        The problem with your argument is that Apple is the only hardware maker for its ecosystem so limiting their hardware focus to their vision effectively leaves no choice if you don’t agree, you have to leave MacOS. As far as your CD statement, well you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Apple didn’t remove it until the ecosystem had moved past it, hard drives were bigger and cheaper than ever, USB drives where ready to replace them, it was a dying format. USB-C is just getting going, there aren’t a lot of peripherals offering it yet, so to ‘rip’ off the band aid of the user effectively forces them to buy dongles for everything until the peripherals are ready and can replace then USB type A devices. Lenovo’s new just announced X1 carbon got it right, two USB C ports and Two type A USB 3.1 ports, plus HDMI. Right now to use a monitor with your MBP costs you at least $50 for the dongle from Apple, or $500-$600 for a new USB C monitor. WTF. All I’m saying is yes change is good, but you don’t throw the baby out with the bath water, and that’s what Apple has done. They are the company of zero choice now.

      • Steve

        But I never trashed “everything you own.”. I have a custom built windows gaming machine and love if. I bought a $50 hub that suits me well, a $50 hub is a small expense, definitely not worth getting bent out of shape over.

      • John Murgen

        This is the mentality Apple wants, spend more of your money to make up for their ‘courage’. It is indeed braves to spend someone else’s money. Why not ask, how much is the margin on a new MBP and you couldn’t keep one legacy port? Really, do these ports take up so much room?

      • Steve

        It’s my money so why does it matter to you? Personally, I like the computer as well as others in my office. That’s the thing I hate about Apple bashers, they are SO concerned about what we choose to spend our money on. I bought a inexpensive USB-C/USB-A thumb drive, and replaced an ailing hard drive for a USB-C hard drive. At the end of the day you’re going to have to upgrade anyway, more and more windows computers will go USB-C as well.

        It’s no different than any other technology transition.

      • Either that or, it’s now that Tim (John Sculley) Cook and Jony Ive are catering to the lowest common denominator, and no longer care about the end user. The investor is mostly what matters now. Unfortunately the vision died along with Steve Jobs in 2010.

    • marinamusic11

      but still, the could come up with a better idea than just a touchbar.

      • Steve

        Obviously you have not used one. The touchpad is phenomenal, has made my computing experience a lot better. Since you have such great ideas go get a job at Apple, no one else is doing anything innovative other than copying Apple form factor. Surface line is junk my wife’s work Surface Pro 4 has been replaced 3 times this year.

      • Raiden

        Your wife’s probably dumb enough not to know how to use a Surface Pro.

        A fucking touchbar that requires you to look down, so counter-productive lmfao. Also, 4 usb ports? Way to go (y)

      • Steve

        My wife has a PHd, just for your info.

      • Docservlet

        Why is looking down worse than having to lift your finger to poke at a screen? Hunt and peck to close windows? Nonsense. You’re a moron.

      • Raiden

        Because while lifting your fingers and pointing at the screen lets you have control of what you’re doing and gives you much more freedom than when using a mouse

      • Mike

        Lenovo had a touchbar before Mac, so don’t claim that as innovation.

      • Steve

        No a multi-touch, contextual touch bar with touch ID.

      • Nick Privalov

        I’d call that very bad luck. I’ve had a Surface Book for a while now and it’s been golden.

        If “no one else [was] doing anything innovative other than copying Apple form factor,” we wouldn’t even have a Surface line in existence.
        Exhibit A: Every Surface has had a full touchscreen built-in.

        ☐ Not rekt
        ☑ Rekt

      • Docservlet

        The Surface Book is a bad laptop and a worse tablet.

      • Steve

        Personally I hate touch screen computers, so I don’t view that as value. Reaching up and touching the screen isn’t anymore convenient than using your track pad or mouse. Not to mention at the typical distances most people sit at when using a computer it’s cumbersome and smudges the screen, plus you have a arm in front of your vision.

      • Steve

        I was talking about the Surface Pro 4 not the book. The SP4 has all sorts of issues, for the first 6 months it was practically unusable with all the issues. Not to mention battery life is atrocious.

      • Raiden

        >Implying MBP has a big battery life. Fuck outta here iSheep

      • Steve

        You inferred that, I didn’t say anything about MBP battery life. I get 9-10 hours. Funny you called my wife dumb, but every post you make just shows how unintelligent you are.

      • marinamusic11

        Don’t get me wrong, I’ve been using apple since the 90s and PCs since the 80s. I know when apple make a true innovation, but definitely not a touch bar.

  • stevesill

    Lame!

    When has anyone purchased a Mac for gaming… which all the computers listed above are built for.

    Buster is this the best you can do, you should probably quit your day job.

    • Raiden

      They are for gaming and for productivity still beat the MBP in every aspect, except for wheight.

  • AngryConsumer

    I know this is ‘Cult of Mac’, but still… Petty, fanboyish article. These are GAMING laptops. They serve a purpose. Try playing some of the latest titles with everything turned up to max on the 13″ Macbook Pro, with it’s year and a half old, dual core processor, integrated graphics, and 8GB of slow DDR3 RAM. I can wait.

    Also, who the hell are you to call this a lack of innovation? Innovation is pretty much by definition pushing the boundaries of what’s possible and creating technology just to ‘show it’s possible’.

    Acer doesn’t expect it’s ‘ridiculous’ $9000 laptop to sell in droves. They made it to show that they could.

    And just before I leave for a more unbiased site, what in the hell did Apple bring to the table with the Macbook ‘Pro’ this year which can actually be described as innovative? Smaller battery, check. Screen resolution unchanged from two years ago, check. Severe lack of (useful; today, not in 3 years time) ports, check. Last year’s processor’s, check. Integrated graphics (across the board), check. A tiny little strip of lights on the keyboard? Oh, please. They’re putting 4K touchscreens on laptops. And anyone can make a decent keyboard and trackpad. That’s hardly innovation. Also, extremely overpriced!

    In their obsessive quest for thinness and lightness to the bitter end, Apple has turned a professional laptop into a glorified Macbook. Oh, but you wouldn’t know, would you. You’re too busy kissing Apple’s ass to notice.

    • Jack Silsan

      I f*cking agree with every single word

  • tonny_m

    There is great article on The Verge about why PC gaming laptops are so ugly. This is one of the areas where the lack of Apple’s presence shows perfectly how others fail to innovate in industrial design area. When there is no leader, there is no one to follow and the consequences we can see in the pictures above, now we can imagine smartphone world when Apple doesn’t step up with iPhone.

    • Raiden

      Ahah, suck more dick you apple fanboy piece of shit

      • Docservlet

        Troll.

  • appliance5000

    Not all of life is a Braun shaver. Maybe Apple could open a “pole out of their ass” division and bring out a modern pismo for people to throw whatever they want inside, and live somehow with 7 hours of battery life. And while they’re at it, they could make the keyboard lighting red and green. They’re so boooooring.

  • Jack Silsan

    Hey you jerks Apple bl0wjøbers, this is a GAMER laptop. “Thin” is a huge con, especially when you need a large battery life – oh, you only care about sheet weight. So buy a million pack of it

    • Docservlet

      Hey you psycho…we all know what these are but it doesn’t stop them from being ridiculous. A “laptop” that weighs 20 pounds? Idiotic.

      • Jack Silsan

        Don’t you want to buy one? Congrats. Some people would and there’s no problem at all. Period.

      • Docservlet

        No I don’t.

        If you want to buy one, good for you.
        Why are you crying and losing your mind?

      • Jack Silsan

        I’m just arguing, not crying

  • David Moore

    LOL the PC’s are thicker cause they are made to game. Gaming on MAC’s completely sucks donkey balls

  • marinamusic11

    but still, the new macbook pro sucks.. these pc gaming laptop has always been like this, the design, the power etc.. but mac? well, I use mac too, but when I’m into gaming I would pick these laptops as long as it works.. mac is supposed to design something that would suit its users & fans better, definitely not the ugly touchbar.

  • mick

    Oh for the love of god, you named off a bunch of gaming laptops. They are far and away more powerful than the mac book pro. These are not entry or even mid level laptops. They are meant to play the most recent releases at 60 fps in whatever panel the machine has. In some cases 120 fps. The 3 screen Razer is a concept, it isn’t something that is going to be for sale anytime soon, and most likely will never be sold. You are an idiot.

  • John Murgen

    This article is click bait for people too lazy to check out real CES stories. Yes, there are some weird laptops this year, there are also some incredibly awesome lite innovative laptops being introduced. The examples here are trying to meet the gamers demands for power over everything, and surprisingly the manufacturers are trying to meet the demand. Hey, I love Apple products but let’s face it Apple has stopped trying to meet user demands for a while now, the last MacPro was a Pro Mac no pro really liked, and I use Pro in the sense that the user needs the fastest, most powerful, expandable, and upgradable Mac available. The MacPro missed several of these points, and hasn’t seen any love from Apple since. To gamers Apple says you’re doing it wrong you really just want to play iOS like games, see how thin our only pro laptop is, see how flat our keyboard is. Oh and because we think $4000 for a laptop is ok, we made it so it doesn’t work with anything currently on the market including our $800 phone without buying more bits to make it useable.

  • Kim Operario

    Either this is a clickbait article or your definition for “innovation” is incredibly narrow-minded and shortsighted. That Acer Predator sports two GTX1080s in SLI configuration – TWO!! Isn’t that awesome? A desktop level GPU inside a gaming laptop (and there’s two of them). Razer, regardless of how you classify the design as ugly, was able to create a laptop with three screens. Amazing! That’s just to name a few. You even failed to mention the Asus ROG that has an external liquid cooling dock. Regardless of how ugly you think the designs are…well, I urge you to visit Steam forums and comfort Apple gamers begging for their favorite games to be given “Mac support”.

    It seems that your idea of innovation revolves around outward appearances. Isn’t that incredibly shallow?

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  • jameskatt

    I think the Razer looks great. I have to carry two external 1080p monitors with my MacBook Pro. This combination weighs a lot more than the Razer.

  • jbelkin

    It’s simply a different market. The only full margin WIN PC’s are in the gaming niche. The buyers there are only concerned about speed and screen resolution. They also like to believe that their keyboard should invoke lava or its from an alien spaceship. They don’t care if the battery sounds like a jet, they have headphones on. Battery life is of minimum concern also. It’s just a different market – of course with the Nvdia GeForce, the days of these might be numbered.