Apple Responds To Google: “We Disagree”
2:17 pm, September 18th, 2009, Leander Kahney
Apple has responded to Google’s charge that Phil Schiller rejected Google’s Voice app: “We do not agree,” says a spokesman.
Apple says it has NOT rejected the Google Voice app and continues to evaluate it. In a statement, Apple PR says:
“We do not agree with all of the statements made by Google in their FCC letter. Apple has not rejected the Google Voice application and we continue to discuss it with Google.”
Earlier today, Google unredacted its response to the FCC, claiming that Phil Schiller had personally killed the Google Voice app in a phone conversation in July.
Who’s lying?
As reader Steven points out below, a good test is whether Google’s app is available in the app store — which it is not. “Until the application does appear in the App Store, we can all say with 100% certainty that it has been denied,” he says.
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either apple or google is clearly full of poop then. as usual, we’ll never get the true story from either of thwm.
firesign3000, on September 18th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Well, that’s just about the dumbest response I’ve ever seen, not to mention disingenuous. The litmus test is simple:
Is the Google Voice app present in the App Store, or not?
Until the application does appear in the App Store, we can all say with 100% certainty that it has been denied, or at a minimum, not approved. Oh, and let’s not forget that there were a couple of Google Voice apps already *in* the App Store that were pulled at the same time – how is that not a show of denial???
Apple is obviously lying here, and I just want to know why they believe we’re all too stupid to see through it?
Steven, on September 18th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
In Response to Steven’s post Dated Sept 18, 2009 3:23pm.
Duplicate Answer to Blog Titled:
Who Is Lying About the Google Voice App, Apple or Google?
Pure Speculative Nonsense,
Just because the Google Voice App is not available doesn’t make it so, You can make all the arguments that Apple is lying all you want, But without substantiated proof of fact you have nothing but conjecture with a sprinkling of “because it’s Google they can do no wrong”. and Apple is the Evil Butcher.
Recently a few disgruntled developers use the “Blogosphere” and with the help of personnel friends that have some connection to relaying information for the benefit of getting free publicity have made something out of nothing.
“It’s Apples Sandbox, Play by the rules and agreements set forth or move on and try to bully someone else.” That’s Choice to use a different Device or Platform or in Googles position that soon will be emerging, use your own platform.
This proves nothing except more & more people have an entitlement complex “and want it only one way”, and like little children cry because they could’t get what they want, When they want it.
The developers of Google Voice haven’t proven to be very trustworthy and forthcoming either, Putting a “sensitive Information Block and asking for non publication” show’s the intent of non transparency and proves they are hiding, and Questionable at Best.
Only by being forced to release the “redacted” parts of Googles transcript leads to another possibility of Google developers hiding a dishonest answer that will be found out in the coming day’s & due to the force from users requesting the release through the freedom of information act, They Had to.
Googles not as forthcoming as people want to believe and at the least are trying to hide something “that may” Blow up in their face’s.
Has anyone thought for one moment that Google wants to use the iPhone as a testing ground on Apples device to see the reception, and then to use Apples Platform to work out the bugs of the App so that when Google releases their own Platform, Google Voice would have
“Second Generation Status” with all the Bugs Worked Out..
Think About it, Anyway you look at it, questionable and plausible, But this also play’s into other additional things that the G.V. App does that all of us might not know about or understand.
You can look at it any way you like, 2 sides to every story but saying it is so Doesn’t make it as Such.
Making a Blanket statute that Apple is Lying is asinine and completely unfounded without fact and is pure Blog Baiting for clicks.
I could say you have One Way Thinking with bitterness and resentment issues, but not knowing your mental background and stability and associated issues,
That Would Be Speculation without Fact.and unfair for me to do without proof correct.
Something Like what you have Suggested Stephen with the Two Line’s quoted from your personal assessment.
1.) Until the application does appear in the App Store, we can all say with 100% certainty that it has been denied, or at a minimum, not approved.
2.) Apple is obviously lying here, and I just want to know why they believe we’re all too stupid to see through it?
I Fell for it, I responded to this Nonsense, Why??
Had time to kill and nothing better to do. Now Let’s see some Proof.
Scott B., on September 18th, 2009 at 8:38 pm
It’s not rejected. It’s under indefinite review.
Now if Google would just modify GoogleVoice, to remove the ability to make or receive phone calls or voice mail, it could be approved tomorrow! Oh, that’s core functionality, as in, the whole point of GoogleVoice. In that case, we still need more time to fully review it.
dave, on September 18th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
Hypothetical conversation:
Google: “Here’s our friggin’ app. Let’s roll!”
Apple: “Does it allow voice communications over a 3G wireless network?”
Google: “Hell yeah it does, beeyatch.”
Apple: “We can’t do that. If it only uses WiFi we can let it in just like we did for Slingbox and Skype”
Google: “^&*(%$*% that, farfrumgruven, we’re not changing out App. We’re going to use the same code base for an Android version.”
Apple: “It’s not our rules, it’s governed by the contract we have with the major cell providers.”
Google: “Pffft. Major cell providers are so 1990s!”
Apple: “Whatever man, they own the network. Until you change your app we can’t approve it.”
Google: “Power to the people man! Net neutrality! Down with the anarcho-syndicalists! Do no evil man!”
So now we have a situation where Google’s app hasn’t been _rejected_ by Apple, they’ve just been told to make a fairly simple change due to contractual arrangements. I made a Skype call tonight on my iPod Touch, surely if Google Voice offered the same functionality as Skype a flat out rejection wouldn’t be…realistic.
I suspect the current situation is a battle of wills. I have the willpower of 10,000 men, and I would NOT take on Steve Jobs dude.
(There may have been some alcohol–perhaps a few Pabst Blue Ribbons–involved in the foregoing comment. I accept all blame, not the beer. I do accept beer though…)
Darcy McGee, on September 19th, 2009 at 12:02 am
Apple might have perfectly valid contractual reasons for rejecting the app, but right now they are just playing with words. If they did not allow the application “AS IS”, then they rejected it. If Google changes the app to please Apple, then that is not the same application.
Don Pope, on September 19th, 2009 at 9:46 am