People are touting these numbers without really explaining how they define ‘smartphones’.

As some commentators have pointed out some of those Nokia phones are more accurately ‘feature’ phones and hardly of the level of the iPhone. David Pogue suggested that there should be a new category for phones of iPhone level called ‘app phones’. Nokia’s OVI store barely functions with many apps not running on all phones. TechCrunch calls it a complete disaster. So if apps don’t work well on many of these Nokia phones how ‘smart’ phone are they?

These kind of numbers always depend on definition and are always suspect. For example for PC numbers, netbooks and PC used as cash registers, weighing machines etc are counted but iPod Touches which are mini computers capable of running 140,000 apps are not. Apple sold more Touches and iPhones than all the netbooks by all manufacturers but due to the way its counted Apple’s PC market share is still small. Will the iPad a BIG iPod Touch be counted in PC numbers? If iPads are counted as PCs then why are Touches not counted, just due to size? If iPads are not counted then what are they? How does that affect PC market share? See numbers are wonky.

@nabil2199,

all you can say is fart apps. It’s pointless arguing with people who think 140,000 apps are fart apps.

But just to humor you: can you give me statistics from a reputable source to prove your point?

Supporting MY comments:
DailyMobile : “is the OVI Store a complete disaster”

Washinton Post “Today sees the worldwide roll-out of Nokia’s Ovi Store, the company’s response to Apple’s App Store (and other centralized content stores for mobile phones and OS’es), and no doubt the company is watching the launch unfold on a global scale with watchful eyes. Here’s the thing: the launch is an utter disaster and I assume (hope) Nokia executives are outraged with the way things are going.”

TechHerald “Ovi Store labelled ‘FAIL’ after launch disaster. much of the content is proving inaccessible, and individual pages either crawl or don’t load at all.”

Zdnet : “Nokia Ovi Store fails in many ways, buy with extreme caution”

etc etc.

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And about definition of smart phones.

David Pogue New York Times:
“What should we call these iPhone-like, touch screen Wi-Fi phones with music and video, real Web browsers, e-mail, sensors (light, tilt, location, proximity), and, above all, app stores? These machines can download thousands of free or cheap add-on programs – “apps” – and become GPS units, musical instruments and medical equipment.
“Smartphone” is too limited. A smartphone is a cellphone with e-mail – an old BlackBerry, a Blackjack, maybe a Treo. This new category – somewhere between cellphones and laptops, or even beyond them – deserves a name of its own.”

Mossberg of the Wall Street Journal calls them ‘super smart phones’ and there’s only a handful of phones including the iPhone’ in this category.

a lot of Nokia etc phones fall into this old ‘smart phone’ category and is not in iPhones league.
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See I can back up my contentions, so where’s your stats about 140,000 iPhone OS apps being fart apps?

NABIL?

Rest, dear brother

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