My Tablet Won’t be Running any Silly Phone OS

My Tablet Won’t be Running any Silly Phone OS

We’ve been talking about an Apple tablet for years now, and of course, that chatter has boiled over into a frenzy that almost guarantees that Steve will walk on stage with something tablet-ish on the 27th, if for no other reason than the fear of a near-nuclear backlash.

While we’re confident that this will be the greatest innovation in tablets since Moses brought a couple down from Mt. Sinai, that’s all we know. The Apple-Reality-Distortion-Echo-Chamber has progressed from being all a twitter with conflicting expectations to achieving some kind of pig-headed consensus that frankly has got to be totally wrong. Principal among these group-think features is the absurd notion that the Moses Tablet v2.0 will run an OS from a freekin’ Phone.

Follow us after the jump where we taunt the conventional wisdom, until they go home crying to momma.

Forward

To kick it off, even writing this article is absurd to me. It strikes as being the Apple-geek equivalent of debating in the comic book store about who would win in fight between Batman and Superman while Krypton was in accent over Chiron.

So I want to be clear, we’re all just a bunch of metro-sexual psudo-analysts mentally masturbating over some alleged copulation of the Easter Bunny and Great Pumpkin.

If you’re here looking for, you know, actual information, you’d do better to skim, chuckle at the funny parts and wait until Wednesday, because neither I, nor anyone else, has any for you; only I’m honest enough to tell you that up front.

The Conventional Wisdom

The following breaks down basically what the Eco-Chamber agrees are the likely specs for the next “One More Thing…”. I’ve gone ahead and saved us both time by showing them side-by-side against my Nexus One phone.

Moses TabletNexus One PHONE
Processor~1-2GHz ARM1GHz ARM
Screen Resolution540X960480X800
Screen Size~10 Inches3.7 Inches
CameraMaybeYes
Internet, movies, music, and junkYesYes
OSiPhone 4.0Android 2.1
Price$800-1000, ~$300-$550 subsidized$530, ~$150-$200 subsidized

At first glance those numbers seem perfectly reasonable, and it’s easy to see how “analysts” who can’t get real jobs could come up with them. You figure that Google sells the Nexus one at near cost, reverse engineer the prices, up the screen size a bit, back into the pricing that conventional wisdom says the thing will sell for, add the “Apple tax”, and Bob’s your uncle.

At second glance, reason flies out the window on the wings of the Tooth Fairy, because all these self-styled geniuses have done is design an iPhone for people with Astigmatism –that you can’t… um… talk on.

Of course, they argue, the Tablet will respond when you touch it. That too is a feature more cheaply purchased in Amsterdam’s red-light district.

The iPhone OS 4.0

Also as of this writing a mythical creature, and one I most certainly don’t want on my tablet. Again, easy to understand how one could think that, the Nook runs Android after-all (of course I sent my Nook back without opening it). The big issue I have with the notion of iPhone OS on any tablet is simple, Applications.

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Oh sure, the iPhone store has like A million of them or whatever. But does it have Powerpoint? Pages? Word, Excel, Lightroom, Aperture, Entourage, Omnigraffle, anything you know, productive?

You see, to be something more than a device I keep in my bathroom to replace the magazines and books usually stacked there to the aggravation of my wife, I’m gonna need to be able to, you know, work on the tablet. In the words of 50 Cent: Just a Little Bit –It doesn’t need to be a full laptop or desktop replacement, my Nexus One sure isn’t, but it does need to be something more than a thousand dollar color book reader before I leave the house with it.

‘Cause you see, my bag is already, full and heavy. I got an iPod, Panasonic Lx3 Camera, 17” MacBook Pro, Nexus One, and Maui Jims, a bottle of water, and assorted snacks that help me maintain this burly pear shape that’s all the rage in Texas these days. Each of these are stashed away, with cables, chargers, cases for protection and such. I Just don’t have room. If anything, ideally, I’d like to leave the laptop at home sometimes for a run out to the Starbucks or a day-trip to Chicago.

So, a real version of OS X, that can run real OS X applications, is absolutely mandatory.

Unless…

Now I wouldn’t be a blogger if I didn’t hedge my bets some. If the thing is $250-$350 bucks, it could find a place in my bathroom and stay there. If it’s impossibly thin & light and still reasonably priced (as Kindle or Nook are) I might be able to convince myself to ditch the copy of Shutterbug for an electronic version, and it could find a place in my bag. But a thousand dollar device that’s got basically the same specs as my phone ‘cept for a bigger screen (even the resolutions are even similar), stays in the store.

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LeighMcMullen

Leigh McMullen leads the Advisory Services & Strategy practices for the professional services arm of one of the Big-Five firms. He has written several books that would cure any insomnia you might have, and is an avid Mac junkie.

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  • RyanTV

    I’m pretty sick of hearing speculation about this product but I love in this picture that there is a cover to a Pendulum album :)

  • HandyMac

    I for one will breathe a huge sigh of relief on the 28th. Perhaps once the “Tablet” is outed, Apple can allocate a few precious resources to fixing the still glaring problems in Mac OS X 10.6, e.g. non-support for the (tens of?) thousands of PostScript Type 1 fonts still in use everywhere outside (apparently) Cupertino.

  • http://www.kazzmedia.com Kevin Cassidy

    enough with the damn tablet speculation

  • asd

    you are so wrong, apple would never try and sell you an os x version of the hp slate, crap that runs desktop os-s on touch screens is old news not a revolutionary product

  • http://geek.derekmartin.ca Derek Martin

    Sorry Leigh, but I think you’re dead wrong about OSX vs iPhone 4 OS.

    Here’s why:

    a) Apps are simple to understand. Simpler than OSX Programs, and in many cases, simpler than web pages. This will make the device appealing to people who don’t currently use computers (many of whom already have iPhones)

    b) Productivity apps target business users. People who don’t currently use computers, or who use them casually, far outnumber business users. Plus, while business users can use a casual machine, casual users can’t use a business machine (without frustration).

    c) Most importantly, Apple makes money on each iPhone app purchase, but nothing from each OSX app.

    d) If you need to run full OSX apps, you can always use the Remote Desktop Client, and run them on your MacPro/MacBook via the Tablet. That way they’ll run perfectly (using your MacPro’s RAM & CPU & HDD) and not kill your Tablet’s battery.

    Can’t wait ’till Wednesday!

  • http://www.cultofmac.com Leigh McMullen

    @ The folks who are tired of Tablet Speculation:

    Uh… that’s kinda the point of this post…

  • Phil

    Why is it so unreasonable that this thing could run the iPhone OS along with revised versions of iWork, suited to fit a touchscreen?

  • http://technolusters.wordpress.com millca

    Here’s my dream Tablet:

    Runs Mac OS, includes wifi, and has the ability to roam all cellular networks so the gadget always has the strongest network behind it. At the end of the month, each service provider would get their portion of the monthly service data plan. This is the new wave of how the cellular service worldwide should work in the near future. Read more about it here: http://bit.ly/4wq4jU

    Apple would be smart to also add full Mac OS apps into the iTunes store or whatever they are going to rename the iTunes store (as it has long passed just being a music store). I can’t imagine any Mac software developer who would pass up an opportunity to sell their Mac software in an ecosystem similar to iPhone apps. Sure, they’ll give some revenue to Apple, but the marketing side of things would FAR outweigh it.

    I hope Apple’s latest creation will implement both. It would be a game changer — a completely revolutionary gadget like this world has never seen. And I hope the iPhone 4.0 will follow suit with its ability to truly roam all cellular networks. Wouldn’t that be something?

  • Mattzook

    I’m with Leigh on this one.

  • ged

    is that a big iphone in your pocket or you just pleased to see me?

  • IcyFog

    If you’re tired of the tablet speculation then why did you click on a link that had tablet in the headline?

  • Rob-0

    I agree with Leigh. Runs iPhone OS 4 AND costs near $700-800 unsubsidized? No thanks. I’ll spend another $300 or so and have a Macbook instead.

    Unless there are developers out there who are willing to make TRUE productivity apps, this thing will be little more than a giant iPhone. Problem is, I already have an iPhone AND it’s corresponding monthly data fee. I don’t need another one.

    Besides, AT&T or Verizon either one will gouge the hell out of the consumer on the monthly data plan, and AT&T’s network can’t handle the iPhone data demands as it is.

  • Stevo

    The Slablet won’t be running the silly phone-OS running on your Nexus One but it *will* be running iPhone OS 4.0. :-)

    In all seriousness, it makes no sense to run OS X on this device. OS X is not fully touch-optimized and it would feel clunky. IMO, that’s why Windows tablets have failed miserably. Laptop without a lid? No thanks. *That* stays in the store.

    Don’t worry about getting “a lil sumpin” done on the Slablet. A fully touch-optimized, cloud-based version of iWork will be available day one. So, you say you prefer MS Office? No worries. MS will have a MS Office LIte app within 6 months of the Slablet’s release. Guaranteed. Do you honestly think the discussions to alt-ctrl-del Google Maps in favor of Bing is simply a punative response to “The hardware manufacturer formally known as the search engine Google” treading on Apple’s sacred ground?

    @Derek Martin. Most people don’t understand how simple and effective Remote Desktop Clients can be. Hell, there’s an app. in the App Store right *now* called Jaadu and it works like a charm. That’s right, folks. I have OS X with full access to all of the apps. I have installed on my desktop…on my iPhone.

    The revolution has begun and it *is* iPhone OS. Viva la revolucion!

  • thedude

    A couple of points everyone keeps overlooking,.

    Apps,
    If this thing is running iPhone OS 4.0, just exactly where will you get your Apps from? The iTunes App store! thats where! Fraught with all the BS of the arbitrary and inconsistent approval process, you’ll have spent $700-$1000 on a computer, where Apple gets to decide which “Apps” it will allow you to run on it.

    2nd,..
    Mentioned earlier,..where will you get these “Apps” from? the iTunes App Store,..that seems to be superfluous or axiomatic,..but everyone’s overlooking the fact that , you will be paying $700-$1000 for a device, THAT NEEDS ANOTHER DEVICE to manage it.
    So heres the scenario at Best Buy: “OK, you’re saying that if I dont own a computer,..and I want to buy this tablet device thingy,…I need to buy another computer to ‘manage it’ ??”

  • Phil

    I think a big part of the problem, when iPhone OS is mentioned, is that people just don’t get what it is.

    It’s powerful, and it even has a few things (for developers) that Leopard doesn’t have, mainly the single-window, view-centric paradigm, which suits small-screen platforms perfectly (and are the reason you’re able to make the information appliance comparison in the first place).

  • some guy from nowhere

    LOL. The nexus one pwnes.

  • Michael

    I mostly agree, a larger iPhone/iPod touch is not going to make a good device. However just because it may be based off the iPhone OS doesn’t mean it will be the same thing. The iPhone OS is OS X; the same OS on the Mac and on the AppleTV. Yet interface wise, none of them share any similarities.

    The speculation of it using the iPhone OS is primarily because of the touch-based interface. Most people lack the imagination to think outside of what they know, so usually their “ideas” are based off current knowledge (products). What they fail to realize is that Apple doesn’t work this way. If Apple designs a tablet, it will have a purpose and means for achieving that purpose.

    A tablet with Mac OS X or iPhone OS is definitely not going to happen. It doesn’t make any sense. Neither interface is suited for a ~10″ screen. With the tablet, I believe Apple will reveal a new gesture based computing paradigm, that was kicked started with the Newton and then advanced by the iPhone.

    This will begin the third “PC” computer-era. And it’s about freaken time!

  • Wade

    Spell check much? Freekin’=freakin’, accent=ascent, psudo=pseudo.

    Beyond that though, one can’t help but believe this has been in development for years, and therefore Jobs will have analyzed every possible aspect given the criticisms of iPods,iTunes, and the iPhone. Personally I believe it will run iPhone os 4.0, which be heavily modified into more of a hybrid between iPhone os and os X. I won’t be getting one right away, but can’t wait for the announcement because of the possibilities. The original iPhone was not well thought out, and I bet Jobs does not intend to go through that again. Every base will be covered, and this device will inevitably become ubiquitous, because that’s what Apple does. They take an idea that people scoff at, and sell it to the world, in one form or another. If the iPhone had flopped, there would be no web os, android, or user friendly blackberry interfaces. Like it or not, this will change the portable electronics landscape.

  • Charli

    we will know soon enough.

    and those that don’t like the end result will get over it. It will be hard, but I’m sure everyone will grieve and move on.

  • http://nonya Austin Pittman

    I think what a lot of people don’t realize is that iphone OS is OSX, granted it isn’t as full featured in order to save space and improve performance. You don’t want all the rest of the OSX features, it would do more harm than good. If you’re allowing people to run software designed for a 3Ghz processor with 4G+ of RAM on a tablet with a max of 2Ghz and who knows how little RAM, it’s just going to run terribly and people will call it a bad product. If The Tablet is running a lightweight OSX (iPhone OS), with a tablet specific UI and software controlled by Apple (therefore designed for The Tablet) it’s going to do what it does very well, which is good for business and the Apple way.

    My thoughts:

    iPhone UI was designed to be used with one thumb. Apple won’t be using that UI…soooooo, The Tablet will be using the same style lightweight/mobile build of OSX with a tablet specific UI.

    There will be much more powerful apps available strictly for The Tablet (i.e. lite versions of iWork, iLife, Adobe Creative Suite, etc, also with Tablet specific interfaces for ease of use.)

    The tablet will also run iPhone apps.

    Look up videos of people using those custom MacbookTablets that are made by some companies, they aren’t very user friendly. That’s why tablets have never taken off before. Apple won’t be that stupid.

  • http://www.cultofmac.com Leigh McMullen

    @ the iPhone *is* OS X Crowd… yeah… I get that… but what it can’t do, is run regular run of the mill OS X applications.

    Might was well argue that iPhone OS is BSD, or Darwin. it is, but it’s not helpful to the underling problem, that you’re restricted to iPhone / App store apps.

  • http://www.chrisburke.ca Chris Burke

    Personally, I couldn’t care less about a tablet.. I think its lame, and a tablet only reaches a SMALL portion of people who could use it.. business people sort of thing.. the average joe has NO use for a tablet..

    I would be excited if they were releasing a netbook.. a REAL netbook.. with netbook like pricing.. (250-350 range) I know people are saying that the tablet is going to be Apples answer to the netbook, but, the reality is, a tablet is NOTHING like a netbook, AND it wont be priced anywhere near a netbook price.. chances are, if a tablet is announced, its going to be at LEAST $1000 and that just doesnt compete in the netbook world..

    I know that I wont be getting a tablet.. and I think apple is stupid if they don’t release a true netbook.. they are the craze right now.. thats what people are buying.. not tablets.. no one is sitting at their desk saying “oh, man my life would be so much simpler if I had a tablet” but what they are saying is “a netbook would be great, because it’ll fit nicely in my back pack.”

    As someone who flies a lot, and speaks at conferences, using keynote to do presentations.. my MacBook is small, BUT when sitting on a plane, a guy my size just cant type properly when sitting there on the plane.. (I’m 6’5 so room is limited) and a tablet doesnt meet my traveling need either, because I want something small that isn’t going to confuse the heck out of customs..

    Personally, I think that Apple has failed on this.. and trust me, I’m a BIG apple supporter and user.. the idea of windows computers just makes me sick.. but, I do think that this is a stupid move on Apples part..

    We will see what apple does on Wednesday I guess..

  • http://www.grinningidiot.com JAYnLA

    Me no wantums an big iPod touch.

  • kayla

    John Tantillo did a post a while ago naming Apple the brand winner for all the buzz the Tablet was generating…even though we don’t really know what it is… chalking it up to Apple’s fabulous record for innovation and bringing customers products they really want.

    I don’t think the Tablet will be for the health care industry… but this is still my favorite guess/article I’ve read on it so far

  • http://www.szilveszter.ca WS

    The version of OSX running on the iPhone is fully compatible with mobility. It supports things like the App Store, cellular connections, and is quite robust. You don’t think things like iWork can be ported over to the platform? Interested.

    I’d say you are flat our wrong and provided little to no actual reasoning behind your beliefs, other than the inability of the platform to run iWork or more advanced stuff. That’s not much of an enticing argument.

    The iPhone OS is after all OSX. A mobile version. Would it not make sense to put in some resources and transfer the functionality of their office suite to a mobile platform, that will, brace yourself, run on a mobile device? How you became the head of where you work with such myopic viewpoints is beyond me, but you leave much to be desired regarding your critical thinking and journalism skills.

    They’ve spent years refining this device. To port over iWork (which most likely will run natively on the device, and not be an additional purchase) and a slew of other “big boy” applications doesn’t seem all that challenging. Moreover, if the tablet will indeed be able to support wireless carriers, then you might want to lock it down. Something that is currently being done on the iPhone. Using a full-fledged OSX may provide challenging to those that would want to install things like Bootcamp or generally hack up the device. Obviously that is going to happen, but I imagine Apple would want to dissuade that practice.

    I guess we’ll find out soon… but I’d be surprised to see it running anything other than the mobile platform they spent so much time and energy investing in. After all, it is a mobile device, not a notebook.

  • Billy D. Kid

    OK, I think the Slate, iPad or whatever they end up calling it will be great, but what about the chances that there will be a new iPhone or an announcement regarding the end of AT&T exclusivity??

    http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-apple-to-end-att-iphone-exclusivity-on-wednesday-report-2010-1

    It could totally happen!

  • Geek

    This is the first brutally hones article I have read and I fully agree. The only thing I would add for those who have not received the memo, the economy sucks and money is tight. The under 25 crowd are worried about getting or keeping their jobs, paying college loans or a tank of gas.

    Me, my briefcase is already full and my netbook with a real keyboard at about 2+ lbs with my blackberry serves me well thank-you.

  • oomu

    okay…

    it’s that simple : apple selling a musical device ?! it’s silly. and you have to know, I’m a huuuuuuge apple fan, but a apple walkman?!! no sir. without NO removable disk !

    I need my space and I need my disks. I travel a lot, I have many records, I do not want a silly closed box who will scare customs. I have a serious life, me!

    I’m sick thinking of buying some stupid sony product, but they do make good minidisc stuff, apple is silly here. what apple need to do is a tablet Mac. it’s all the craze in newspaper ! Bill Gates himself told it will be the dominant form for computing in a few years, but nOOOo Apple can’t do that ! they know beeetter !

    the whole economy is trashed ! Hello, Telecom crisis, Terrorism and all, how can you expect people to buy a stupid little music box you can’t even switch your music at will… It will be expensive and silly. the economy sucks and money is tight. No one is sitting in their room saying “oh, man my life would be so much simpler if I had a little digital box playing music”.

    Me, my bag is already full and my cds and cdplayer with a real bass sound amplifier serves me well thank-you.

    We can all agree the first mac was not very refined. I thought now Steve Jobs would not like to do an other half-assed product…

    go figure.

  • http://awarmgun.net/ Ian Adams

    If your stylesheet uses underlined text to indicate a link, please don’t underline non-links. Too many times while reading this article I moved my mouse over some underlined text only to discover that it was not a link.

    Thanks!

  • porkchop1234

    IcyFog quote:
    If you’re tired of the tablet speculation then why did you click on a link that had tablet in the headline?

    Its impossible not to read these articles considering the second you open a page there’s a stupid headline waving in your face like a huge red flag. A great example of what I’m talking about is this site. Go check the history of the posts for the last week or so and you’ll see for yourself that most of the articles if their not about the tablet they allude indirectly to the tablet. Take away these articles and there’s practically nothing left to read.

    Stevo quote:
    Don’t worry about getting “a lil sumpin” done on the Slablet. A fully touch-optimized, cloud-based version of iWork will be available day one. So, you say you prefer MS Office? No worries. MS will have a MS Office LIte app within 6 months of the Slablet’s release. Guaranteed.

    Gimme your number and address dude I’m looking to invest in the stock markets and require you and your crystal ball to tell me the future. Another example of someone whose throwing out facts and making assumptions when he doesn’t know anything.

    Stevo 2nd quote:
    In all seriousness, it makes no sense to run OS X on this device. OS X is not fully touch-optimized and it would feel clunky. IMO, that’s why Windows tablets have failed miserably. Laptop without a lid? No thanks. *That* stays in the store.

    Ever stopped to think that maybe Apple did something about that? Not that I really give a crap what OS the tablet may run as long as its useful for my needs I’m happy. I think old Stevo here should pack his bags and move to Cupertino immediately and get a job with Apple so he could tell Steve Jobs what the next big Apple product should be and what it should run.

    quote Leigh McMullen
    While we’re confident that this will be the greatest innovation in tablets since Moses brought a couple down from Mt. Sinai, that’s all we know. The Apple-Reality-Distortion-Echo-Chamber has progressed from being all a twitter with conflicting expectations to achieving some kind of pig-headed consensus that frankly has got to be totally wrong. Principal among these group-think features is the absurd notion that the Moses Tablet v2.0 will run an OS from a freekin’ Phone.

    How can I say this? Leigh I love your posts for the simple fact they make me laugh. Its good to see there’s someone on here who doesn’t take this stuff so seriously and shows that although Apple tech is groovy candy there’s more to life then just Apple. The problem I have with your article is the fact that although you seem to be as much fed up with all the BS about the tablet as I am you still make an assumption about it without any hard facts to back it up putting you in the same camp as all the other BS articles. I’m not trying to be an ass about this I’m simply pointing out an obvious observation.

    quote Chris Burke:
    Personally, I couldn’t care less about a tablet.. I think its lame, and a tablet only reaches a SMALL portion of people who could use it.. business people sort of thing.. the average joe has NO use for a tablet.

    Well Chris you win the award for being the biggest idiot on this thread pun on your 6’5 height intended. First of all I’m a regular joe blow who isn’t a white collar business guy and I need the added application and mobility a tablet if done right would give me. My days are 12 hrs long and are split shifts and during my downtime a device that is more powerful and would have a bigger screen would be far more welcome then just my ipod touch. Have you ever tried surfing the net on a iphone/itouch? It works but lets be perfectly honest its not the most pleasant user experience.

    2nd quote Chris Burke
    I would be excited if they were releasing a netbook.. a REAL netbook.. with netbook like pricing.. (250-350 range) I know people are saying that the tablet is going to be Apples answer to the netbook, but, the reality is, a tablet is NOTHING like a netbook, AND it wont be priced anywhere near a netbook price.. chances are, if a tablet is announced, its going to be at LEAST $1000
    and that just doesnt compete in the netbook world.

    Netbooks suck. Apple has said that netbooks suck and I agree with them on their statement of clunky hardware, crowded keyboard, being underpowered and generally a shitty user experience. I’ve owned a netbook and I sold it 9 months later because it was so shitty.

    3rd quote Chris Burke:
    BUT when sitting on a plane, a guy my size just cant type properly when sitting there on the plane.. (I’m 6′5 so room is limited) and a tablet doesnt meet my traveling need either, because I want something small that isn’t going to confuse the heck out of customs.

    Are you seriously trying to say that a netbook is more mobile then a tablet form factor which is lighter and thinner? Have you even seen the size of a 10 inch screen? A 10 inch screen although bigger then a touch or iphone isn’t really that big. Man give your head a shake.

    I could go on and on copying and pasting stuff from the above posts but why bother this post has already become big enough.

    FINAL SUMMATION:
    I have a rather novel idea which involves everyone just practicing the skill of STFU for another 3 days and waiting to see what Apple unveils. Maybe then we can all have some productive discussions that would actually lead to people thinking and (shudder) actually walking away with some new useful knowledge. As it is it doesn’t matter what Apple unveils tablet wise (if they even unveil a tablet). No matter what it looks like or what OS it runs or even what it can do there will be a thousand blogger’s on here who will show just how truly intelligent they are (not) and scream it sucks then go out and buy one just to show off and act like a big shot. It just goes to show how truly two faced and self absorbed society has become.

  • http://dougitdesign.com/blog Doug aghassi

    I would rather have an iPod Touch & a netbook with a great keyboard, 10.1 inch LED screen, 2.5 lbs, 1.6ghz Atom, 160GB HDD, and Snow Leopard 10.6.2— all for less than $450…Oh wait, it do.

  • faddy
  • http://www.cultofmac.com Leigh McMullen

    WS Wrote:: The iPhone OS is after all OSX. A mobile version. Would it not make sense to put in some resources and transfer the functionality of their office suite to a mobile platform, that will, brace yourself, run on a mobile device? How you became the head of where you work with such myopic viewpoints is beyond me, but you leave much to be desired regarding your critical thinking and journalism skills.

    None of my co-workers can figure that out either. Don’t know why you decided to be insulting rather than have a dialogue, but hey. I guess thats how some people have fun. I would argue that my laptop is a mobile platform, and is already touch and pen enabled albeit save for the screen. I would also argue that simply having iLife and iWork does not a platform make, and why would apple want ANOTHER one. Could even point out that there are a lot of other applications folks use every day, that won’t run on big ipod touch, making it’s 800-1000 supposed price point kinda crazy… I could argue that, but you’d probably just call me fat or something and make me cry.

    @Faddy: We totally did the Tablet big-foot thing like a year ago: even put a link to it in the first 6 words of this post. http://www.cultofmac.com/bigfoot_found_mac_tablet/2532

    @porkchop & everyone else who understood that this was tagged “humor” for a reason: thanks

  • chano

    Truly foolish article. PowerPoint? Really? You’re outing yourself about that here? I guess you only use a toaster that you have to boot up, log into and search for the program to burn your bread, and then pull down a menu to eject same and to quit and shutdown. Ho hum. You’re missing all those windows and dialog boxes huh?

    You are not everyman, or everywoman for that matter. It is still the case that only a minority of the world use a personal computer. Even in America, there are still tens of millions of such folk. What will bring them into the fold is a computer that is unbelievably easy to use. A true ‘no-brainer’ device that is language, location and culture-agnostic. I mean a device for which even the most basic education or even no education at all will not be, automatically, a barrier to adoption. (I refer you to ignorethecode.net/blog/ and to Farhad Manjoo discussed elsewhere on CoM). The iPhone/Touch OS has shown that such a combination of great power and simplicity is possible. No, actually it’s proved Apple’s 25 year old mantra:

    ‘ease of use, promotes use.’

    And the outcome of this will be huge success for Apple. The outcome will also be to take Apple into UI and UX realms where it is hard for others to follow, other than by skin-deep copies that may look-alike but they will certainly not work-alike.

    As for this comment of yours

    ….’But does it have Powerpoint? Pages? Word, Excel, Lightroom, Aperture, Entourage, Omnigraffle, anything you know, productive?’

    It is too sad really. Most of the world is not interested in the things that you seem obsessed about. Most people want to use computers for the new NEW serious activities, like having FUN, a word you may not have come across before.

    Get a life. Better still, find a topic you understand, and blog about that instead. Like, ummm, toilet accessories say or, better still, write about getting (paid for) responses (sic) from Amsterdam prostitutes. You seem to have some practical expertise there. Well, you said it.

    Stick to what you know chum. The rest of the world has moved beyond PowerPoint et al. We’re about to have fun, in addition to all the serious stuff we already know how to do on full-blown computers. Horses for courses. You should consult a proctologist, pronto, if you feel deprived at the prospect of not having every app you use replicated everywhere. Eeesh!

    Odd that we never hear anyone moaning about their inability to reprogram or customise the workings of their TV or HiFi, microwave, pre-iPhone smartphone etc etc. I don’t see anyone working them selves into a sweat trying to second-guess or even preach to Dell, HP, Sony, GM ( the genuinely untalented companies) on their product strategy. Why is that? They surely need some guidance.

    What a bozo you are. Here’s a suggestion for you. Re-visit your article. Take out all the nonsense the self-indulgent, irrelevant, waffle and the cover-your – arse retractions and your masterly achievement here is that you have said nothing. Less actually.

    ‘Q-DOS’ to you. You would be at home there.

  • chano

    great joy and delight to all on Wednesday…….

  • http://www.szilveszter.ca WS

    Leigh, I appreciate the reply. Your viewpoints on a full fledged OS vs. the iPhone OS focused mainly around software that will reside on the device. Yet you have no idea what Apple has been cooking. You also don’t seem to have any coding experience or knowledge in that area, so I don’t see anything about iPhone OS platform limitations. If you know them, you certainly didn’t bring them to light in the article.

    You mainly focused on reasons why it would either remain or be taken out of your bathroom. Your article provided the equivalent of a students saying, “that teacher sucks, man.” I tried to pick out a formal argument as to why you didn’t see the new tablet having a mobile platform and found the only rationale you provide to be a limitation of current Mac OS software and it’s incompatibility with the iPhone platform. That lead you to the conclusion that the device would be nothing more than a over priced cook book reader.

    I expected a lot more depth and critical thinking for someone who holds such a position and has written books. Your little puff piece was nothing more than an attention getter (and I’m sure it did that quite well).

    In closing, I’ll leave you with this: http://www.cultofmac.com/apples-tablet-is-based-on-iphone-os-publishing-bigwig-says/27788?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+cultofmac%2FbFow+%28Cult+of+Mac%29

    It’s not a shocker to me, but it may leave you with amazement…

  • http://www.cultofmac.com Leigh McMullen

    @WS now that is a mutually respectful way to start a dialogue. so I’ll delve a little further into my article.

    My thesis and even my headline was simple: “My Tablet won’t be running any silly phone OS”. It was very precisely worded and remains true. Nevertheless, the Apple tablet almost certainly will run iPhone OS, and that would likely prevent me from buying one (thus it would not be **my** tablet) unless conditions I stated in my closing held true (mostly price, and form factor).

    My thesis was supported by a few arguments;

    1. nobody, especially bloggers know a damn thing and everyone is speculating (and I included myself in this cadre)

    2. the Apple Tablet as spec’d by conventional wisdom was bigger but little more powerful and had basically the same screen resolution as my phone.

    3. the exclusion of productivity applications would render this device little more than an expensive book / multimedia reader.

    #3 is the most contentious, while #1 and #2 are pretty much irrefutable, since they’re not disputing facts, but are a fact-based observation of speculation.

    To support #3, I would offer only this, I assert the absence of 3rd party productivity applications because we’ve essentially heard nothing about them. The post you linked supports this somewhat illustrating that those outside of Cupertino are happy to leak information, even as Apple remains tight-lipped. One assumes that someone at Microsoft or Adobe would let slip that they were working on a new versions of their applications for this amazing new mobile device.

    Now, technically, it is possible though it’s rumored to have an ARM processor to be able to run Intel based apps through a mechanism like Apple employed with Rosetta during the migration from Motorola to Intel. This might even be favorable, if Apple intends to use their own silicon in their mainstream computers in the future. Though I hope it’s true, I fear this to be unlikely.

    which leaves us at: as rumored the device is underpowered, and under supported by 3rd party productivity applications. Further rumors I didn’t address suggest that it may even be locked down like the iPhone, making it less desirable to me. because afterall, this whole thing was a jibe at factless bloggers, that are suggesting that Apple might actually release a thousand dollar device that has little place outside my toilette.

    I have deep in my heart held the hope that the bloggers are wrong, and apple will simply AMAZE us tomorrow. They usually do.

  • http://www.cultofmac.com Leigh McMullen

    @WS my post was, however, explicitly designed to be sensationalistic…

    you caught me.

    **grins**

  • http://www.szilveszter.ca WS

    Leigh, I wasn’t talking about your thesis, but rather your actual argument. Your topic was clear, lucid in fact. It was the arguments for your viewpoint that lacked any real meat to them. I found them to be actually meek at best.

    Example.

    Thesis: I’m going to show crows are one of the most intelligent birds on the planet.

    Arguments: When tested for cortical thickness and neurone density, no other bird comes close. Moreover, in experiments involving elaborate tests to pull food from traps and puzzles, crows complete the exercises far quicker than any other bird tests.

    I’d say those are solid arguments to provide evidence that your thesis is likely true. A thesis is simply your theory or topic of discussion; the conclusion to your argument. An argument, however, provides support for your theory. Without it, well, why should I believe you a word you say. After all, opinions have to be based on something. Why do YOU believe in your conclusion? You need to convey those points to your reader. No one wants to read:

    “I think crows are the smartest birds alive. I think they’re really neat because they’re black and they fly. They’re much better than any other bird because they’re just so clever. They can figure stuff super quick.”

    The thesis in that paragraph is clear, much like the first one, but the argument is non-existent. All the writer said was essentially how much he likes crows and reiterates his thesis. That’s poor writing. It’s a blog, but it’s still an article and you are trying to convey a point to your readers. An argument as to why they should believe you; as to why they should consider what you say is certainly in order.

    Specifically, if you are going to make outlandish claims, you’re going to need a good argument, which is why I dug into you rather deeply. Based on the information reported in the media (iPhone apps running in “high res”, for example), it was very likely the iPad would run the iPhone OS. Even general wisdom supported that theory. But you flew in the face of that. So I expected something much more inline with the first example above, than the second.

    And you may be interested in this article over at Engadget: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/27/appple-announces-iwork-for-ipad/

    I appreciate the time you’ve taken to reply to my posts and hope this gives you some food for thought, and ultimately improves your writing.

  • http://www.cultofmac.com Leigh McMullen

    @WS: Apparently the precision of my headline is still evading folks. I stated that **my** tablet wouldn’t be running a phone OS, not that Apple’s tablet wouldn’t.

    I also taunted the conventional wisdom for thinking that Apple could get away with selling an over sized iPod Touch for 800-1000…

    Apparently Steve felt the same way, which is why they’re selling it for $499. Whic incidentally is a perfectly appropriate price point for what is in effect an over-sized iPod Touch.

    Apparently you also failed to note the nice table I put up listing the purported specs of the iPad against my phone. I’m uncertain as to how much more data I would be expected to provide to justify an article whose thesis was that **I** wouldn’t buy one of these things if it was an over priced sooped up iPod. and that the conventional wisdom was wrong for thinking that Apple would sell one.

    (which, incidentally, they’re not. a fact that Steve himself poked fun at as well).

    Perhaps instead of my writing skills, someone can work on their English comprehension skills instead?

    Cheers.

  • http://profiles.google.com/arixmail Ari Weinstein

    This is what I thought too. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite pan out that way. At the same time, it doesn’t cost $1,000, so…