Blackberry CEO Coins Dumb New Slur For iPhone Users: “Wall Huggers”

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Takes one to know one, Blackberry. The CEO of the beleaguered Canadian smartphone manufacturer — which recently celebrated achieving its first 0% market share since the smartphone wars started — is now calling iPhone owners “wall huggers.”

Speaking at the Oasis Montgomery Conference, where he was asked about the iPhone’s popularity, Chen said that because iPhones can’t even last a full day, “I call you guys wall huggers.”

It’s apparently a slight against iPhones, meant to suggest that owners of Apple’s handset need to “hug the wall” looking for an electrical socket because they always have to recharge their phones. That’s pretty rich, considering tests have shown that the Blackberry Z10 doesn’t get much more battery life than the iPhone 5s, and takes an “irritatingly” long time to charge.

I’d also argue, of course, that it’s easier for your smartphone to last all day when you’re not actually using the thing.

  • Guest

    perhaps

  • TcinAtl

    Said the guy who’s Company has been on life support for many years.

    • Jamie

      like Apple was on life support in the late 90’s?

      • $43641445

        Wow, you have to go back to the 90’s for that one?

    • D R

      He’s just doing this to try to keep BB still in the smartphone conversation. Right now, you go to a store and you come out with an iPhone or a Samsung, you aren’t even shown a BB.

      Getting all this press by slagging the market leader gives some people the impression that they make a phone on a similar level as the iPhone and will ask about it when they get to the store [as well as letting the real wall-huggers, namely current BB users know they are still around].

  • rfr1

    Very weak. Very weak indeed. Nothing better than that? How about iPhone users are smart. Oh, that wouldn’t work for you either would it.

    • Jamie

      I wouldn’t say iPhone users are smart, you pay more money for less product. How is that smart?

      • $43641445

        Yes there are millions of really dumb people with iPhones and you’re the only real smart guy…lmao!

      • Jamie

        According to research, BlackBerry users tend to earn more money while iPhone users tend to be more vain. There are still about 70,000,000 BlackBerry users, including Obama

      • http://www.designstrategies.com Len Williams

        You’ll use anything to try to make your point that iPhone users are stupid. People use iPhones because they like the operating system, the quality of the phones, the durability, the ease of use, and the Apple eco-system (iTunes, apps, movies). I know iPhone users who are vain, but they were like that long before the iPhone was released. I know many other people who use iPhones simply because they like them. Use the brand of phone which works best for you and try using some tolerance by not criticizing others who don’t think like you.

      • Jamie

        The points I made in my previous point were in an actual research report. I in no way meant to imply that all iPhone users were vain or that the iPhone is what made them that way. I know many iPhone users who use an iPhone because it does work best for them. I also know many others who simply have one because everyone else does and they usually don’t have a clue how to use any features beyond text and email. I don’t know many BlackBerry users who buy them because using them is the cool thing to do and they almost always use many more features. Apple makes a very good product, I will never deny that. I’m only saying that from a technical stand point, they no longer are the gold standard in hardware or software and anyone who claims they are tend to be very mis informed people who have bought the hype

  • MartinJdub

    Chen has a point….i rock an iP5, Q10, Z10, Z30, HTC1, SGmini…the iP5 Z10 SGmini and HTC are on par for the most part and wall hug often, but the Q10 and Z30 battery life are light years ahead of the others.

  • Jamie

    What’s funny is that you compare the Z10 to the iPhone. The Z10 has the worst
    battery performance than any other of the BlackBerry 10 smartphones. I had the
    Z10 (after my iPhone 4) and the battery did disappoint me but the OS really
    impressed me. When the Z30 was released I decided to give it a try and it filled
    in all the short comings of the Z10. The battery lasts longer than on any
    smartphone that I have ever had, the signal strength and call quality is
    incredible and the OS has had 2 major updates since the Z10 was released. I can
    even download Android apps directly to my phone from google play through a BB10
    app called Snap. iPhone fan sites like this one (and the media at large) love to
    bash BlackBerry but they only thing they lost at was the marketing war. If
    anyone here truly believes that any iPhone, with it’s old OS, low specs, no
    expandable memory, no NFC, short battery life and weird screen size is actually
    a better phone than the new BlackBerry phones needs to give their head a shake.
    This article shows how touchy iFans really are. Chen didn’t say anything not
    true about iPhones, the battery life really does suck. At least he sticks to the
    facts and not the same media talking points about BlackBerry that have been used
    for the last 3 years that no longer apply. Market share is way down for
    BlackBerry but that isn’t because of the quality of their product.

    • plaztik

      “If anyone here truly believes that any iPhone, with it’s old OS, low specs, no expandable memory, no NFC, short battery life and weird screen size is actually a better phone than the new BlackBerry phones needs to give their head a shake.”

      Yeah, all those hundreds of millions of iFans (seriously? It’s 2014 and we still do the iWhatever name calling thing?) are just not smart enough to “get Blackberry”. They rather use they’re old OS and weird screen size (because now a 4″ 16×9 screen is weird?) , and not have the cutting edge tech that is is NFC, instead of Bluetooth Low Energy that is miles away better. Nop, stupid we. Always aiming for the worst…

      I’m pretty sure that people who need a “head shake” are those stuck in a past where they think physical qwerty keyboards, NFC, and Corporate Whatever Integration, are what ordinary consumers want. Yeah, we should all be head banging to the sound of that sweet 90’s Blackberry music. Rock on my friend m/oom/ and let us iSheep/iFans/iWhateveryouwanttocallusinanattempttobesmart live with our “worst” phones in peace…

      • Ryan

        Bluetooth has its limits, and NFC is a nice option to have and will become more popular as more adopt the technology. One example is that I will never be able to use Bluetooth to make financial transactions. In Canada right now I can go to Tim Hortons (the Starbucks of Canada) and pay for a meal with my BlackBerry.

        And you can’t deny that iOS is the most dated OS available and the iPhone is on the lower end as far as specs. That said specs don’t drive iPhone sales. iPhone is easy to use, quality build, is a very nice looking phone with an array of colours, lots of apps, 1000’s of different cases and accessories.

        These are the main reasons the iPhone sells well and these features I mentioned are marketed very well through word of mouth and advertising.

      • plaztik

        So bluetooth has limits and NFC doesn’t? NFC is more limited than BTLE in lots of ways. Range is one of them for starters.

        Why do you say you will never be able to use bluetooth to make financial transactions? What is stoping you? Are you just saying that because right now you can pay at a Tim Hortons with NFC and not with bluetooth, or you just think that bluetooth can’t be used as a way to make the payment?

        iBeacons started being deployed this year. NFC is being used for a couple of years now. NFC had it’s chance to “become more popular” in adoption, and it hardly gained any traction, and since 2012 has had it’s volume forecast revised downward more than twice.

        I’m not even going to try and make an argument about the “most dated OS” because everyone has their own idea of what dated means i guess. And as for specs, i’m pretty sure from your comments your one of those “my phone as 18 billion cores so it’s faster” type of person. No need to argue that too, it would be pointless. It’s like those car guys that “the bigger the engine = the faster the car, what matters most is a jet engine in it”, and then let’s forget that a track as corners too, because it doesn’t fit their narrative.

        But ok, my coiche of tech was made because someone marketed it well, and I like shinny colours and cases. Sure. Like a crow. Can’t escape those shinny pretty things. That’s it then…

      • Ryan

        Ok this is a tech forum and since your here you probably make more informed decision about what you buy. I have no idea why you bought your iPhone, but for the majority of iPhone users yes these are the reasons people buy the phone. It’s been proven that specs don’t drive iPhone sales because they do have lower specs than the competition and still sell remarkably well. I didn’t choose my phone on specs alone, it’s a factor but not the number one as my phone doesn’t have the highest specs. Also I never said NFC doesn’t have limitations, but it’s nice to have both BT and NFC available to me. iBeacons are interesting, but unless Apple makes the software available on all platforms I’m not sure stores would commit. It also requires a subscription from the consumer, and as far as I can see you still can’t make payments using iBeacons and LightSpeed. To me it looks a bit intrusive and I can see corporations taking advantage of the consumer’s shopping habits through targeted advertising.

      • plaztik

        But the thing is, BTLE is an improvement on the way NFC works, it does the same, and more. So there’s no need in having both. And Android also supports beacon tech in BTLE since 4.3. It’s a standard, so it can be implemented in any platform. Regarding the targeted advertising, I can agree with you. There is the potential to exploit it, but seeing it is optional to accept the beacon, it’s a case of, if you don’t mind it, leave it on, if you do, turn it off, so i’m not worried that much.

        The fact of specs never mattered regarding the iphone because the software was tailored to the hardware it ran (same as on the macs). And the fact is, that only when Google came out with project butter, Android was considered to have the same smoothness of iOS. The other only way Android manufacturers had till then to make the OS run smoothly, was by ramping up the specs. But that was a problem with Android/Android phone manufacturers and not with the iPhone or iOS.

      • Ryan

        I agree specs and software go hand in hand no doubt. I’ll use your car analogy. You can have a Ferrari engine in your car, but unless you have the proper tires to transfer that power to the road your just spinning your wheels.

        I’m going to have to disagree with you on the BT vs NFC though. They are similar but both have advantages and disadvantages. I prefer to have both. I dropped a link below.

        I didn’t know iBeacon will be available on Android also, that’s good news, hopefully it gradually moves to smart tags instead of barcodes. It would be great to use BT tech for your shopping then NFC to make your purchase at the cashier. You can use NFC for tap and pay the tech credit cards use already, but only a number of banks have jumped on board to use it. It also requires the purchase of a NFC SIM card. CIBC has started using this tech.

        I also hope iPhone will support miracast, USB OTG and wifi-direct soon. SD card wouldn’t be a bad idea too. The main problem for me about Apple is that it seems everything I own has to be Apple to get all the features out of it. They force you to use other Apple products because it won’t work with anything else.

        http://www.mobile-phone-marketing.org/nfc-bluetooth.html

      • Ryan

        I agree specs and software go hand in hand no doubt. I’ll use your car analogy. You can have a Ferrari engine in your car, but unless you have the proper tires to transfer that power to the road your just spinning your wheels.

        I’m going to have to disagree with you on the BT vs NFC though. They are similar but both have advantages and disadvantages. I prefer to have both. Google NFC vs Bluetooth

        I didn’t know iBeacon will be available on Android also, that’s good news, hopefully it gradually moves to smart tags instead of barcodes. It would be great to use BT tech for your shopping then NFC to make your purchase at the cashier. You can use NFC for tap and pay the tech credit cards use already, but only a number of banks have jumped on board to use it. It also requires the purchase of a NFC SIM card. CIBC has started using this tech.

        I also hope iPhone will support miracast, USB OTG and wifi-direct soon. SD card wouldn’t be a bad idea too. The main problem for me about Apple is that it seems everything I own has to be Apple to get all the features out of it. They force you to use other Apple products because it won’t work with anything else.

      • iDad

        You’re a Canadian, of course you are going to favor(favour?) Blackberry. Enjoy your Tim Hortons, eh!

      • Jamie

        Yeah you got it. It’s the people using the OS released in 2013 that are living in the past where people using iOS that was released in 2007 are cutting-edge. I still use the iWords because your like sheep. You seriously believe that iPhone is a better product in every way. Do you think BlackBerry doesn’t have bluetooth? I don’t deny iPhone is a quality product but it is factual that it is very dated when compared to the new BlackBerry and the battery does suck.

      • plaztik

        Yes, because the OS released in 2007 stayed EXACTLY the same from 2007 to 2014. If I decided to create an OS that just had ONE button right now, my OS would be more advanced than every other OS just because it was released RIGHT NOW. Because that’s how software development works isn’t it?
        And again, the moment you start using words like iWathever and Sheep, it just shows you’re an idiot. It’s the moment I immediately lose respect for your opinion, valid or not.

        To answer your questions. Yes, I think the iPhone is a better product in every way (despite not having said that) and AMAZINGLY I also think a Blackberry does not have bluetooth (despite this being 2014 and almost every phone having it). I’m sorry, you’re not an idiot. You’re an idiot with some kind of reading comprehension problem. My bad I guess. And I really hope you can detect the sarcasm in the comment.

      • Jamie

        Thank you for proving my point. I used to use iPhone, have you used BlackBerry 10?

      • plaztik

        Yes, I have. And now i’m pretty sure you really have a learning comprehension problem, if you think I proved some point you made.

      • Jamie

        I have a problem? You keep comparing bluetooth and NFC like they are two totally exclusive technologies. You talk about NFC having a limited range. You idiot, that’s exactly what it is designed to have, Near Field Communication! NFC is secure because of it needing close range to connect and then the transfer is done using bluetooth! Almost every Canadian bank now has programs to allow NFC enabled devices to be used as a method of payment rather than debit or credit for card. Every major phone manufacturer has been using it for over 2 years now except Apple. As far as dated OS, Apple now has the oldest OS on the planet for mobile operating systems. That’s what I consider dated.

      • plaztik

        Again, some bad case of reading comprehension. Not going to even bother anymore..

      • Jamie

        Nice talking point but again your an idiot. Address your mistakes with something other than “poor reading comprehension ” or avoid leaving comments on sites where people have a bit of technological knowledge

      • Jamie

        Apple has updated the OS several times that’s true but it’s still the same OS with improvements. The problem is that the more they ask of the OS the more it creates a less efficient system. That’s why the battery dies so fast. Did you notice that every time an iPhone Updates the battery dies quicker? And being the last OS isn’t what makes it the most advanced but the BlackBerry is by far the most advanced because of the QNX building. Nasa uses QNX because of its stability. For that matter, most mission critical applications use QNX because it doesn’t crash like every other mobile OS on the market. You act like you know what BlackBerry is all about but it’s obvious that you can’t get your head out of Apples ass long enough to see that Apple is dated and in fact BlackBerry has taken the lead with respect to technology. It has the fastest browser on the market, the best keyboard on the market, nearly the best battery life and the best antenna they put in a cell phone. These are facts and not subject to anyone’s personal opinion as to what is the best products. Your unwillingness to acknowledge BlackBerry’s lead in these area over the iPhone shows that your not a person who knows technology but just a simple fan who thinks anything apple is the best. You would be one of the people who only bought an iPhone Because you think it looks cool. Good for you

  • Amit SaMy

    Chen, you are the master of wall hugger as your company is a pitfall which need support.

    Also, you are a dick in an ass!

    • Jamie

      Oh, poor baby. Did someone say something true about your iPhone and now your mad? If you don’t settle down you have to go to your room for a time out

  • 1stRadiant

    I do admit z10 has shit battery but I find it funny that people are not comparing the latest v latest. How about your iphone 5s v z30. Battery goes to z30, keyboard to bb10, browser to bb10 and note that blackberry 10 has the fastest browser compared to any other OS, OS apps goes to iOS but note that bb10 can install any android apps directly…

    But hey what can I say? Fun boys will be fun boys and iPhones ones will be blind to the grave!!!

    • mahadragon

      Your Z30 is closer to hitting the grave than the iPhone 5S.

    • LordV

      Lets just let the market decide…….

  • Angus Matheson

    http://supportforums.blackberry.com/t5/BlackBerry-Z10/Just-compare-Z10-battery-life-to-iPhone5/td-p/2582939

    This is the most modern comparison I could find. I think wired did an iPhone vs blackberry vs android thing and talked about battery life but it wasn’t very scientific. All smart phones have terrible battery life. Whoever developed a smart phone with great battery life will sell an amazing number of phones. But it doesn’t seem to me that blackberry or apple or anyone else has figured that out yet.

  • exsudburyguy

    And that’s why they call the site “the cult of mac.” Really is cultish. BBs are way better phones. Of course Betamax was a way better system too but lost out to marketing of VHS. Better doesn’t always win, but I’ll still stick with my berry.

    • plaztik

      Just like a captain of a ship, proud to go down with his vessel. Good for you!

    • Hemlige Arne

      Haha…i love when people prove their stupidity :)

  • Nutty Squirrel

    Everyone knows that lithium batteries prefer short frequent charges.. Forget about using it dry and charging it once a day, hugging the wall for 3-4 hours per charge.. That’s gonna hurt your batteries.. Unless BB is still using nickel cadmium, well that’s an inspiration! If that’s how modern batteries work, i guess everyone is a wall hugger dude!

  • PitBullCH

    Didn’t BlackBerry used to be something ?

  • http://www.geeksonhugs.com/ W. Anthony Tanas

    Come on John, it was obviously said in jest. Hardly a ‘slur’. What about how Windows PCs show up in Finder with the BSOD? Admitedly Apple’s barb was funnier. But anyway…lighten up.

  • Damien

    Chill. This is so school yard. John Chen does like 4 interviews a day. He was teasing the interviewer. No big deal.

  • emersive

    I don’t end charge my iPhone everyday… I am not even sure I do it ever other day. My iPhone is also over three years old. I don’t really buy the “wall-hugger” thing. Maybe it is because I don’t have a new phone or because I haven’t had a blackberry recently.

    Honestly, I don’t think blackberry is going to survive. I would be unlikely to buy a blackberry any time soon, I don’t want worry about buying apps for one that will not transfer to any future devices.

    Also adding hard keyboards back to blackberrys to me is a big step backward for mobile devices.

    • Subliminal7X

      “Also adding hard keyboards back to blackberrys to me is a big step backward for mobile devices.”

      Yep sure, someone should tell this to Typo for making a physical keyboard for the iPhone !

  • jb

    This is clearly taken out of context to bash BlackBerry. Chen was commenting on Samsung’s marketing campaign that happens to be aimed against iPhone wallhuggers and their waiting and waiting for a larger touch screen as well. The term wall hugger was initiated by a campaign to promote the S5 by Samsung (not sure how you guys missed all these commercials)… that’s the reality of this… also the only phone to be released under Chen has been the Z3 with a massive battery and it seems that the Passport will follow the same model. Edit – didn’t realize how old this article was, but still Chen seems to have a focus on long battery life. Not sure what the context was in this without the transcript as we all know that the media loves to bash BlackBerry, but when the turnaround signs become even more obvious the same people that bashed BB for years will jump on the turnaround train. We all love fighting for the underdog and BB is clearly in much better shape now than at the time of this publication.

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