Shocker! Adobe Flash Player Has Serious Issues Under OS X Lion

Shocker! Adobe Flash Player Has Serious Issues Under OS X Lion

Wondering why your laptop’s battery life has dropped and its CPU temperature has gone through the roof now that you’ve installed OS X Lion, especially when watching YouTube videos or browsing Flash-heavy sites?

Surprise, surprise: Adobe Flash is having more problems post-Lion, as Apple’s favorite punching bag has sheepishly admitted that there seems to be an issue with Flash Player under OS X 10.7.

According to a knowledge base article posted on their "http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/905/cpsid_90508.html">website:

 Flash Player may cause higher CPU activity when playing a YouTube video possibly related to disabled hardware acceleration. Custom native mouse cursors are not animating properly on Mac 10.7. The Flash Player settings dialog does not respond to mouse clicks. If you find yourself in this state, you can use the “tab” key to change the focus to the “Close” button and use the spacebar to close the dialog.  While not all settings are available, you can also use the Flash Player
native control panel located in System Preferences.

Note the use of the word “possibly” related to disabled hardware acceleration. In other words, Adobe doesn’t know… it could just as well be their own crummy programming.

Honestly, I think half the problem for Adobe isn’t that Flash Player sucks, though it does, or that it totally isn’t necessary to install anymore, which it isn’t. It’s the fact that since Apple directed so much public scrutiny on Flash as a product, Adobe keeps on failing over and over again, which just ends up affirming in most people’s minds what Steve Jobs has already said.

Get your act together, Adobe. You’ve had months to test Flash Player under Lion. Even if this is Apple’s fault, you could have been telling people about this problem weeks ago, under the Gold Master. Now Flash just looks terrible… again.

  • BrianVoll

    I’ve been getting that error in SL recently. A lot.

  • AndrewHrubik

    What a hack job of an article. I came here for news and all I got was a opinion. Next time you type something out make sure it’s news and not your idea of what happened. Have you ever considered that Apple might bear some responsibility in this debacle?

    News is comparative not declarative.

  • prof_peabody

    Shameful that Adobe doesn’t even seem to test their products on new OS’s either.  All the problems I’ve had with Lion so far are related to Adobe products.  

    In a month or so they will come out with a fix for all the glitches, but if an indie developer can be ready for Lion a month *before* it comes out, why does Adobe have to wait for a month *after* it comes out?  

  • Brian Moore

    I just downloaded the Adobe Flash Player 11 Beta. Seems to be working good, so far… *cross fingers*
    Adobe Flash Player 11 Beta… It’s for Mac OS X 10.6/10.7 & can be downloaded here: http://download.cnet.com/Adobe

  • Tom Ghyllebert

    And who’s fault is that? Apple clearly tries to get rid of Flash… again… 

  • brownlee

    Cult of Mac is, amongst many other things, a blog, which means that we’re free to state our mind about the news of the day. If you don’t like that, I suggest Reuters.

  • imbenking

    Agreed….not very objective at all…I wouldn’t expect news that biased from Fox, let alone from here…

  • imbenking

    There is stating the news with an opinion, or a blatant fanboy post. Also, Cult of Mac IS used by many as the most up to date news source. 

  • imbenking

    There is stating the news with an opinion, or a blatant fanboy post. Also, Cult of Mac IS used by many as the most up to date news source.

  • martinberoiz

    You come here for news? To a website called Cult of Mac? This is mostly rumors and biased articles, I come here for those. Get your news on the NYT.

  • imbenking

    I come here for Apple news as it is the most up to date and I like the aritcles. Im all for opinion as well. The above article isnt even that bad. Its just the last paragraph I personally found to be a little fanboyish. Steve Jobs has all sorts of other reasons for publicly bashing Flash. Sure, his public argument stands up….but lets remember he also wants flash to die so his tablet offerings dont look like they are lacking and his App store stays healthy.

  • crateish

    I block that old technology, except where I absolutely need it momentarily. And I can do with out videos of cute kittens for a while until Adobe takes its head out of its a$$ and fixes this.

    I believe that they had access to developer’s Lion for a long, long time.

  • Allan Cook

    This is a blog, people. If you don’t like the opinions, move on. There’s plenty of opinion and news on Apple all over the interwebs.

  • Allan Cook

    This is a blog, people. If you don’t like the opinions, move on. There’s plenty of opinion and news on Apple all over the interwebs.

  • imbenking

    You may want to read the About Page for this site in that case…

  • Iphoneication

    i downloaded it to,, my macbook air was having heat issues,, and I’m sure it was related to adoble under lion,, since my download, all is fine and dandy

  • Nutz320

    CULTofMac, idiot! What do you think that suggests, if not blatant fanboyism? Regardless of what you come here for, that’s not their target market, not their niche. Their services aren’t unbiased news and rumours. MacRumors may be more unbiased, I don’t know. Regardless if it’s the most up-to-date, if you don’t like the articles, don’t come here. I guess those people who use Cult of Mac for that reason will have to come to terms with the fact that that’s not what CoM is offering, so they may dislike some of the articles.

    It’s like saying, I want a hover car, I go to a hover car seller looking for a hover car with a radio and when they say, “That’s not what we do!”, I get mad and claim that, “Many people come looking to you for the most up-to-date tech, so you shouldn’t be biased towards iTunes integration rather than radios!” That’s not what they sell, either go to some other provider or deal with the fact that no one offers this, or show people that there’s a demand for this, so it’s more likely to be offered, or offer it yourself. 4 sensible choices for you right there. Getting mad is not a sensible thing to do here.

  • Kyle Voisard

    This is my first post on any of the blogs that I frequently visit, of which there are many. At first I came to Cult of Mac to get more Apple related news, as I’m sure many people do, but I quickly noticed the EXTREME amount of bias toward Apple and all of its products. Don’t get me wrong I love Apple and think it is one of the greatest companies in the world, too. However, I can say that the close minded ignorance displayed by some of the posts on this site have turned me completely away. I understand that this is a blog, and therefore you can post whatever the hell you want. I also understand that I have the ability to not visit this site any longer, which is what I will more than likely do. Its a shame because this site has a good layout and does actually report on the relevant things I care about very frequently, it’s just the the language and (dumb) sarcastic humor that makes this blog not all that enjoyable to read.

    If you have a RSS desktop client, like Reeder for Mac, look at the headlines of the articles posted by Cult of Mac, you’ll quickly see what I’m talking about.

  • Jimmy Laing

    Any half-decent person kicked flash to the curb a long time ago.

  • Shaunathan Sprocket

    Regardless of people falsely going to an editorial source for factual news….  Most of this discussion is moot.  It’s a few clicks to turn youtube.com from using legacy flash software to up to date standardized HTML5.

  • brownlee

    How is this a “fanboy” post? This isn’t about an Apple competitor. I’m not saying “APPLE RULES, ADOBE SUXXORZ.” Yhis is about the fact that Flash just keeps on boning up, and it’s just getting increasingly hard to excuse that behavior.

  • brownlee

    Go figure: a blog about Apple and its products has an extreme bias towards Apple and its products.

  • brownlee

    What do you mean?

  • Dimitris Asimomytis

    my machine could not allow flash use camera and mic at http://www.midomi.com    , i smell trouble here!

  • Boom Ras

    While I fully understand your sentiment, this site is called “Cult of Mac”, suggesting that bias is king and objective analysis is not.

  • Boom Ras

    Both parties are two blame here. For starters, Adobe’s management is quite frankly in complete disarray. Right now Adobe is being run like a carnival. They have a tough time getting from point A to point B in their product release cycles.

    Apple on the other hand refuses to cooperate and open up it’s platform for outside vendors, choosing to keep all of the good low level API’s for themselves. Evidence of this? Cover flow on iOS. There is no reason for that API to be private other than Apple wanting to keep those UI goodies for there own apps. Also unbeknownst to a lot of apple fans, Apple’s drawing stack for browsers is a complete and utter clusterf**k, specially when comparing it to windows. This accounts for the wild disparities between frame rates and rendering speeds between the different browsers. Maybe, now just maybe if Apple organized their rendering stack a little better, browser and third party vendors wouldn’t have such a hard time making sense of all the mess.

    And yes, I am an apple user through and through.

  • iKolja

    So it is Adobes fault that Apple disabled hardware acceleration in Lion?
    Apple wants to destroy Adobe. And i honestly never thought bad of flash before i started using Apple products,and reading Apple-centric blogs and news. Then slowly i started criticising them ONLY because Apple hates them. If Apple stood on their side you would find a million new excues to defend Adobe. Just as now you have arguments against them.

  • Karl

    I actually come here for the Apple bias. That’s what I want and glad I can get it here.

    Not sure if I’m unique or if everyone can do it, but I am able to form my own opinion even if what I read is bias one way or another or completely neutral.

  • Ken Hughes

    In what universe does Apple want to destroy Adobe? Flash maybe, but I don’t think they have it in for the whole company…

  • Ken Hughes

    This site isn’t going to change because people like you enjoy complaining about it. It is what it is. Some people enjoy it, some people don’t. If you find yourself part of the latter group, stop coming here for gods sake. You say this site has “turned me completely away” yet you’re still here. Honestly I’m so tired of people making these thinly veiled threats to stop coming. Just do it for crying out loud.

    /rant

  • Al

    Lion has been available to developers for months now. There is no excuse for a big company like Adobe to have their biggest product unprepared for Lion on launch day. They are not short of time, money, or talent. Perhaps the problem is poor management, as is frequently said to be the problem at Microsoft.

  • Steven Washington

    Apple isn’t responsible for Flash, Adobe is.  I’m sure that Adobe, just like other Devs, had access to the Lion Developer Beta.  They had plenty of time to take care of many of the issues that are now being reported with Flash.  If Adobe, was to lazy, or to stupid to take advantage of the beta period, it’s their fault.  It doesn’t surprise me at all that Apple doesn’t ship Macs with Flash installed.

  • DirkBelig

    Does Apple pay this site to bash Flash or do y’all slag it in hopes that Lord Jobs will send you some lint from his mock turtleneck? The “review” (read: “Will you go to the prom with me, Lion?” mash note) also took a shot at Flash when mentioning how it wasn’t included. You kids must really love Legos since your view of the web is nothing but it.

    The slobbering devotion of Apple fanchimps is hilarious as they manage to view the epic failness of APPLE to cope with Flash as a reason to bash Adobe. How is it that EVERY OTHER OPERATING SYSTEM can run Flash but Apple’s inability is brushed off and blamed on Adobe? Other companies don’t whine about Flash, THEY JUST RUN IT! Android, Linux, Windows JUST WORK. Apple just whines and scapegoats.

    When Lord Jobs swore his fatwa against Flash, the Kupertino Kool-Aid guzzling Mac addicts yelped in agreement. (Good doggies! Have a treat!) But take a moment and admit that if Bill Gates demanded that the entire Internet be rewritten to accommodate IE’s inability to handle Flash content, you goons would be piling on to proclaim how inferior M$ was for not being able to handle a fundamental basic component of the Internet.

    The problem with Flash crashing is due to APPLE not being able to code their way out of a damp tissue. No one else is having these problems. It’s not them, it’s you.

  • Atienne

    Ya: Get over it. You don’t come here for news, you come here to hate on apple. At least be honest about it. You don’t come to an apple site and bitch about the bias towards apple. 

  • Alan Quigley

    Its not just Flash, its Photoshop, illustrator, Aftereffects. These are the products that have kept Apple going through its dark days. The people who actually do things with their Mac’s use them. This is a very poor sign for Apple. They are showing complete disregard for there core user-base.

  • Dilbert A

    like

  • Dilbert A

    exactly

  • Dilbert A

    2nd. Please stop coming.

  • Dilbert A

    nope. If Adobe is too lazy to get it together, I think it’s bad for Adobe.

  • Dilbert A

    He doesn’t mean anything. He’s just puffin smoke.

  • orthorim

    Flash has sucked on macs ever since it was invented. In the beginning it surely was due to adobe putting more effort in windows development as the Mac had a very small market share.

    But these days that excuse doesn’t count and my opinion as a software engineer is that it’s simply a shoddy semi-working product. All software has bugs but badly written software stands out in that bugs cannot easily be fixed, or worse, fixing some bugs causes others. it’s like a house of cards where when you add something here something else might fall down there.

    Adobe has been blaming Apple for lack of access to hardware acceleration APIs even though other software and other vendors have no issues with it. Apple has then given in and opened those APIs but Adobe Flash is still a dog.

  • orthorim

    Anyone who uses the words biased and fanboy in a comment is a troll. Move along!

  • orthorim

    You are “for opinion” and “get mad” at “bias”?

    Sounds like you should stick to FOX News then, they cater to trolls like you. I mean, seriously, these are all the usual FOX brainwash phrases. Coincidence?

  • orthorim

    Ha I didn’t even see this comment when I wrote the above. QED.

  • orthorim

    Yes, passively. That is they used to invest a great amount of resources into making sure all Adobe products worked in past OS releases. Now, they don’t do that anymore. They just let stuff break, and let Adobe deal with their own crappy software.

    That said Lion also broke some other software products…

  • orthorim

    A combination of incompetence and ignorance. Maybe they still think it’s like in the old days when these things hurt Apple more than Adobe (so Apple didn’t let it happen).

  • orthorim

    “They are not short of time, money, or talent.”

    Agree on time and money, but talent… If you look at their products a lack of talent is more than likely ;)

  • orthorim

    Here is what I think when I read a comment like this on a website called “Cult of Mac”: there is an online army of Microsoft(? Or others but MS is the likeliest to actually pull something like that) lobbyists out there paid to paste certain key phrases like “fanboy” and “bias” in the comment sections of tech and other blogs. They’re not paid a whole lot, but theres many of them.

    Because if it weren’t so it would mean people are really that dumb. And I refuse to believe that.

  • Van Saharya

    HTML 5 anyone?

  • Rob Klaproth

    LOL… Love how this site blames Adobe.. I’m sure Apple had more to do with this then Adobe.. This is the FIRST OS I HAVE EVER SEEN RELEASED THAT DIDNT ALLOW BOOK PUBLISHERS TO PUBLISH A BOOK UNTIL AFTER THE OS WAS RELEASED… Seriously, go look for a book on Lion?  You’re SOL.  

  • mrplowinc

    From the Adobe siye:
    UPDATE: The final release of Mac OS X Lion (10.7) provides the
    same support for Flash hardware video acceleration as Mac OS X Snow
    Leopard (10.6).  The previous “Known Issue” suggesting that video
    hardware acceleration was disabled in Lion was incorrect and based on
    tests with a pre-release version of Mac OS X Lion that related to only
    one particular Mac GPU configuration.  We continue to work closely with
    Apple to provide Flash Player users with a high quality experience on
    Mac computers.

  • Stephen Cook

    My problem with Flash isn’t Flash itself. It’s the way advertisers use it. I gave up on Safari and went to Google Chrome specifically because of AdBlock. Advertisers have become increasingly aggressive, and ads now cover parts of the page content, bloat pages, and bog down and crash browsers. The tool of choice for this is Flash. 
    I never have problems streaming Flash from Amazon or Hulu, but if I accidentally leave a web site up that has Flash ad content, I can leave my MacBook Pro and come back an hour later and the fans are running because MSN has an ad showing that stupid 21st Century clown with the red hard hat juggling fruit. Adblock out those Flash apps, which often run three, four or five to a page, and Flash doesn’t cause me any problems.

  • Stephen Cook

    My problem with Flash isn’t Flash itself. It’s the way advertisers use it. I gave up on Safari and went to Google Chrome specifically because of AdBlock. Advertisers have become increasingly aggressive, and ads now cover parts of the page content, bloat pages, and bog down and crash browsers. The tool of choice for this is Flash. 
    I never have problems streaming Flash from Amazon or Hulu, but if I accidentally leave a web site up that has Flash ad content, I can leave my MacBook Pro and come back an hour later and the fans are running because MSN has an ad showing that stupid 21st Century clown with the red hard hat juggling fruit. Adblock out those Flash apps, which often run three, four or five to a page, and Flash doesn’t cause me any problems. 

  • christer247

    I can’t even find the Flash download for Lion… It says Mac OS X 10.4 – 10.6 on Adobe’s Flash download site :/
    I’m so tired of this Flash debate, WHY won’t it just die?? It should have died years ago IMHO… But now Apple is doing us a big favor and “help” killing it and supporting HTML5, and even Microsoft is doing something nice by adopting HTML5 even as one of the main programming languages for apps on Windows 8 :)Soon all current Flash games and such will be in HTML5, and we won’t have these headaches and frustrations of hot laptops and unneccesary battery drain. 

  • nanofunk

    flash also seems to produce lots of other issues on OSX Lion machines, as outlined by nanofunk: 
    http://www.nanofunk.net/mac-os

    when can we expect an official response or fix from adobe? this is serious!

  • Bob Calder

    Opinion Andrew? How old do the Flash control panel dialogs look like to you? They are Medicare eligible. What does that say about the development process at Adobe? Nothing good.

    Adobe is to Apple what Apple is to Unix. They think they’re cool and every time they stick their hands under the hood, something really bad happens. Flash player is nothing but a bit of old software on a kludge and there is another kludge under that.

  • eNamir LeMac

    how many pre-releases of Lion were made available to software vendors to make sure that their apps will work fine?
    Once again, Adobe shows a typical behavior, have a long nap then wake up late and pretend you’re working hard to fix the “issues” 
    Quite frankly, i feel disgusted by Adobe’s disregards for the mac community. 
    I had doubt about Mr Jobs blocking flash in iOS, but now i do praise him for doing so. 
    I won’t let Adobe near my hard work in a million years. 

  • eNamir LeMac

    go back to Adobe site, they retracted their statement which suggest that apple disabled hardware acceleration in lion. 
    fools who believe self made lies are too smart for me.

  • eNamir LeMac

    go back to Adobe site, they retracted their statement which suggest that apple disabled hardware acceleration in lion. 
    fools who believe self made lies are too smart for me.

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